[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yes exactly, it's madness to be in Afghanistan on the basis of bringing democracy to the country and then go and try and downplay this act as if it doesn't go against everything they're supposedly fighting for. That doesn't just make it disgusting, it makes it hypocritical as well.

And let's not forget that despoiling the dead is also illegal under both the Geneva convention and under US military law, they will hopefully face prosecution

the geneva conventions are a joke, as is the UN, when's the last time western europe or the UN actually got stuck in to solve a problem. IF the UN did it's job then maybe the Iraq and Afghan wars would never have happened. If the UN actually did any thing at all, why does no one ask, why isn't the UN actually doing **** to stop wars???

WHat has the UN done against the taliban everytime they break the Geneva conventions??? Abosolutely NOTHING.

The UN is a pathetic joke.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by lostalex

the geneva conventions are a joke, as is the UN, when's the last time western europe or the UN actually got stuck in to solve a problem. IF the UN did it's job then maybe the Iraq and Afghan wars would never have happened. If the UN actually did any thing at all, why does no one ask, why isn't the UN actually doing **** to stop wars???

WHat has the UN done against the taliban everytime they break the Geneva conventions??? Abosolutely NOTHING.

Are the US Military Laws a joke?

The UN is currently involved in 16 peacekeeping missions worldwide, a lot of them in places most people don't give a sh*t about or aren't reported

And see my above post, plus it's quite hard to actually prosecute the Taliban given the circumstances. We just kill them instead.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Are the US Military Laws a joke?

The UN is currently involved in 16 peacekeeping missions worldwide, a lot of them in places most people don't give a sh*t about or aren't reported

And see my above post, plus it's quite hard to actually prosecute the Taliban given the circumstances. We just kill them instead.

Yea and alot of those peace keeping missions, we hear about the "peacekeepers" raping little girls and spreading diseases, so what's yur point??
The relief effort in Haiti, led by UN peacekeepers, the UN brought Cholera into Haiti, how many times have we heard about the UN peacekeepers being accused of pedophilia and rape in Africa?? too many to count.

The UN "peacekeepers" are much worse than anything we've seen from US and NATO troops.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Yea and alot of those peace keeping missions, we hear about the "peacekeepers" raping little girls and spreading diseases, so what's yur point??
The relief effort in Haiti, led by UN peacekeepers, the UN brought Cholera into Haiti, how many times have we heard about the UN peacekeepers being accused of pedophilia and rape in Africa?? too many to count.

The UN "peacekeepers" are much worse than anything we've seen from US and NATO troops.

Hmm I don't know that much about the UN peacekeepers tbh and this is going a bit off topic, but fact remains the US have signed and ratified the Geneva convention, and this act is illegal under both that and their own military law

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Hmm I don't know that much about the UN peacekeepers tbh and this is going a bit off topic, but fact remains the US have signed and ratified the Geneva convention, and this act is illegal under both that and their own military law

Well i agree, the US should hold itself to a higher standard, and this video is disgraceful, and i'm sure all involved will be punished.

Perhaps we should be holding EVERYONE to such a high standard though, that's my only point.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Well i agree, the US should hold itself to a higher standard, and this video is disgraceful, and i'm sure all involved will be punished.

Perhaps we should be holding EVERYONE to such a high standard though, that's my only point.

Well the Taliban are technically accountable to the Geneva convention but like I said it's not exactly easy to prosecute them while the war is going on, but if, for example, Bin Laden had been captured instead of just killed then he would have too have been prosecuted under the convention

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well the Taliban are technically accountable to the Geneva convention but like I said it's not exactly easy to prosecute them while the war is going on, but if, for example, Bin Laden had been captured instead of just killed then he would have too have been prosecuted under the convention

The Taliban are not subject to the Geneva convention because they do not have a country or uniforms or a government.


An interesting question though, would it be better for the world for Bin Laden to have had a world wide platform to speak his hate? Would it benefit the world in any way for him to have a platform in court to spread his hateful propaganda and paint himself as a victim? Or is it actually better that he never got that chance?

Sometimes doing the right thing isn't pretty. Sometimes denying people rights is actually protecting other peoples rights.

It is illegal to preach racism in Europe right? You can be put in jail in Europe for saying something racist. Personally i believe in free speech, but maybe sometimes, you should protect people from very manipulative speech that could cause more violence.