Originally Posted by lostalex

ummm, so what are they then? are there arab jews? yes, are there black jews yes, are most jews white europeans? yes. Just like Americans. But you say discriminating against jews is racist, but against Americans is not?

seems hypocritical to me.

Jews are an ethno-religious group, they may have moved into Europe, but they are not white Europeans.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Jews are an ethno-religious group, they may have moved into Europe, but they are not white Europeans.

So you're telling me that you can tell a jew from a gentile just by looking at them? That's racist.

Originally Posted by lostalex

So you're telling me that you can tell a jew from a gentile just by looking at them? That's racist.

So you are saying that if you can't tell the ethnic history of someone, just by looking at them, then they all belong to "white European?" Think about that statement a little more, then really think which of those statements is racist.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

So you are saying that if you can't tell the ethnic history of someone, just by looking at them, then they all belong to "white European?" Think about that statement a little more, then really think which of those statements is racist.

NO, i've said before, that everyone is mixed race, that's why it's not just the stereotypes about how you look that makes you a certain race,. I'M SAYINg that racism is about PERCEIVING someone as DIFFERENT and INFERIOR that makes it racism.

If you PERCEIVE someone as DIFFERENT, whether because of culture, ethnicity, religion, nationality it's all racism. It's all the same type of PREJUDICE. because that's what racism is, prejudice.

Originally Posted by lostalex

NO, i've said before, that everyone is mixed race, that's why it's not just the stereotypes about how you look that makes you a certain race,. I'M SAYINg that racism is about PERCEIVING someone as DIFFERENT and INFERIOR that makes it racism.

If you PERCEIVE someone as DIFFERENT, whether because of culture, ethnicity, religion, nationality it's all racism. It's all the same type of PREJUDICE. because that's what racism is, prejudice.

What about if that group of people, namely Jews, perceive themselves differently, solely because of culture, ethnicity, religion, etc?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

What about if that group of people, namely Jews, perceive themselves differently, solely because of culture, ethnicity, religion, etc?

Like i said before, anti-semitism IS racism. Hitler was a racist, even though the jews and gays he killed were mostly white skinned. Racism is more about culture than it is about skin color, imo.

Originally Posted by lostalex

Like i said before, anti-semitism IS racism. Hitler was a racist, even though the jews and gays he killed were mostly white skinned. Racism is more about culture than it is about skin color, imo.

You're going round in circles. Antisemitism is racist, because the Semites (Jews) are a race of people. Skin colour is irrelevant, and I don't think anyone in this thread has said it's about skin colour.