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Originally Posted by Seraphim

I wasn't bringing my personal feelings into it. I liked him. I dated him, and I only broke it off because I didn't want to embarrass him in public when I pulled him up for making humilating, sexual jokes at my expense in front of whoever else was there. I'd have been mortified if it had been my parents.

I brought everyone else's feelings into it: all the women absolutely despised him. One of the kindest, nicest women I have ever known seemingly said "I'd have thought she'd have more taste." when she heard we were dating. She was right. He put on a nice gentleman act initially with me, so I was fooled into thinking he was a nice guy. The act slipped after a couple of dates, in spite of the fact that we were still at the holding hands and cuddling stage.

I still like him very much and when we split up, I said he'd find someone who loved him completely the way he was. I just wasn't right for him.

I don't want to make this personal but you opened the door. I dated a woman once that didn't like holding hands in public. Does this mean all women are frigid. I think not. Jim is an old fashioned comedian and is loved by Millions, your analogy comes from a personal basis, not a generalisation which we should all be governed by. If you are to measure Jims actions by the actions of another, the end result comes out as a personal opinion based on issues that are not relevant. I make sexual jokes and ridicule my wife all the time, as she does me but we have been married for 42 years and are very very happy and in love. I guess we possess the ability to forgive and forget and apply common sence most of the time.