[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Lex

That'll do for me, he sounds a smashing bloke, get him in the next civilian series...i'll join his fanclub!

To his great credit, he hides it very well.. He was brought up in a different generation and some prejudices are rooted in early childhood. He made a conscious effort never to pass on his prejudices to his kids, and no-one would know it unless they were around him for years. My brother is gay, and he doesn't know. His boyfriends are treated like any other member of the family. I only know because I'm a daddy's girl, like Jim's daughter, and I love nothing better than to hole myself up with him for hours, listening to every word he says. I think he's wonderful.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I don't want to make this personal but you opened the door. I dated a woman once that didn't like holding hands in public. Does this mean all women are frigid. I think not. Jim is an old fashioned comedian and is loved by Millions, your analogy comes from a personal basis, not a generalisation which we should all be governed by. If you are to measure Jims actions by the actions of another, the end result comes out as a personal opinion based on issues that are not relevant. I make sexual jokes and ridicule my wife all the time, as she does me but we have been married for 42 years and are very very happy and in love. I guess we possess the ability to forgive and forget and apply common sence most of the time.

I agree. I told that ex of mine that he'd meet someone who didn't mind his jokes, and that he needn't change: it was just that I personally had a problem with it. That's when he told me that all his ex girlfriends had said the same thing.

Having said that, he once told me an anecodote which he thought was hilarious about a young woman who had done a short stint in his office. She had to make a speech before leaving, and the boss had utterly humiliated her deliberately by making a crude, sexual joke at her expense before she sat down. The whole room (all men) just about wet their pants with laughter. Yeah, it was a joke, but it was used as a weapon in that case. Had she been an older woman, she'd have told him where to go, walked out and filed a sexual discrimination suit, but being a younger, insecure woman, she sat down and tried to conceal her humiliation. When I expressed my disgust, his response was that no-one liked her anyway, so it served her right.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

I agree. I told that ex of mine that he'd meet someone who didn't mind his jokes, and that he needn't change. It was just that I personally had a problem with it. That's when he told me that all his ex girlfriends had said the same thing.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

yeah, well.. I only had a few dates with him. Maybe he'd have got worse.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

yeah, well.. I only had a few dates with him. Maybe he'd have got worse.

Lucky escape i reckon

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

To his great credit, he hides it very well.. He was brought up in a different generation and some prejudices are rooted in early childhood. He made a conscious effort never to pass on his prejudices to his kids, and no-one would know it unless they were around him for years. My brother is gay, and he doesn't know. His boyfriends are treated like any other member of the family. I only know because I'm a daddy's girl, like Jim's daughter, and I love nothing better than to hole myself up with him for hours, listening to every word he says. I think he's wonderful.

Yep, he certainly sounds like a good DAD...I have 10 kids [5 of each, between 64 and 46] and love every one of them the same!...And the whole point of our lives is to love our babies as much as we can...that's what we're here for!
I grew up when a black man was 'a darkie' and the only ones we saw in Barnsley were the ones that we loved , like Paul Robeson [my favouriite singer] and the comical ones like Rochester , or the savage beasts like on the Tarzan films...In the 40's when I first became aware of gay people [queers as they were called the] we thought that they were as funny as hell...but was secretly scared of them...it was a lack of education about homosexuality I suppose,...but though we would joke about the ones that we thought was gay...I was never knowingly cruel to any of them that I came across! [perhaps I did upset one or two...but honestly not by intention]...because of the war...I freely admit to being xenophobic toward 'The Germans...and The Italians for many years...but I suspect that you can understand that , that was caused by circumstance!
Also,...I freely admit that I am probably what you would call a male chauvinist, in as much as I would love the world to turn back the years to when the Man went out to work to provide for his family that was being looked after by their mother at home! ....Not to dominate or enslave as many young people would preach that it was ...but to be a happy normal loving family like it used to be!
Sure...you could probably cite a few examples of where this wasn't the case,...and you'd be right,[there's always been a few bastards...pardon my french.] but then the world's never been perfect...and is everyone that is living the modern life happy??
There's lots more,...but I don't want to bore you,...so i'll finish by saying your Dad will always love you...even if you think he is wrong to be himself and the product of his age and upbringing ! ...and you take gameshows too seriously. ..:


Cheers Seraphim.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Lex

Yep, he certainly sounds like a good DAD...I have 10 kids [5 of each, between 64 and 46] and love every one of them the same!...And the whole point of our lives is to love our babies as much as we can...that's what we're here for!
I grew up when a black man was 'a darkie' and the only ones we saw in Barnsley were the ones that we loved , like Paul Robeson [my favouriite singer] and the comical ones like Rochester , or the savage beasts like on the Tarzan films...In the 40's when I first became aware of gay people [queers as they were called the] we thought that they were as funny as hell...but was secretly scared of them...it was a lack of education about homosexuality I suppose,...but though we would joke about the ones that we thought was gay...I was never knowingly cruel to any of them that I came across! [perhaps I did upset one or two...but honestly not by intention]...because of the war...I freely admit to being xenophobic toward 'The Germans...and The Italians for many years...but I suspect that you can understand that , that was caused by circumstance!
Also,...I freely admit that I am probably what you would call a male chauvinist, in as much as I would love the world to turn back the years to when the Man went out to work to provide for his family that was being looked after by their mother at home! ....Not to dominate or enslave as many young people would preach that it was ...but to be a happy normal loving family like it used to be!
Sure...you could probably cite a few examples of where this wasn't the case,...and you'd be right,[there's always been a few bastards...pardon my french.] but then the world's never been perfect...and is everyone that is living the modern life happy??
There's lots more,...but I don't want to bore you,...so i'll finish by saying your Dad will always love you...even if you think he is wrong to be himself and the product of his age and upbringing ! ...and you take gameshows too seriously. ..:


Cheers Seraphim.

Wonderful post, Lex. I'd be happy to read far more, and I'd never be bored by anything you say. Your posts are always a great read. I don't think my Dad is wrong to be himself. I think he is himself, and it's great with me. The fact that he can overcome his rooted prejudices for the sake of showing the best example he can to his kids is to his great credit.

[chuff me dizzy]

This is what St Jim said about dirty peado Saville " As odd as he was, Savile can’t defend himself. The bloke’s dead for God’s sake. Let’s move on.” "

[ChristmasNeeve]

Lex 10 kids, wow!

[chuff me dizzy]

I wonder where his kids were when he threw their Mum downstairs or battered her with barbell

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I wonder where his kids were when he threw their Mum downstairs or battered her with barbell

Jim doesn't have any kids with the 1 wife that accused him of assault.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I wonder where his kids were when he threw their Mum downstairs or battered her with barbell

They didn't have children Chuff.

[Seraphim]

...and you take gameshows too seriously.

Really? I haven't actually voted for anyone yet

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Jim doesn't have any kids with the 1 wife that accused him of assault.

He battered more than 1 wife

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Wonderful post, Lex. I'd be happy to read far more, and I'd never be bored by anything you say. Your posts are always a great read. I don't think my Dad is wrong to be himself. I think he is himself, and it's great with me. The fact that he can overcome his rooted prejudices for the sake of showing the best example he can to his kids is to his great credit.

That's lovely, i'm glad that you have the same relationship as I do with my kids. It's the meaning of life you know!

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Lex 10 kids, wow!

Yes, my Gladys couldn't keep her hands off me ...but I didn't stuggle much Niamh..because she was gorgeous! ..

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He battered more than 1 wife

He didn't Chuff,seriously

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Lex

That's lovely, i'm glad that you have the same relationship as I do with my kids. It's the meaning of life you know!



Yes, my Gladys couldn't keep her hands off me ...but I didn't stuggle much Niamh..because she was gorgeous! ..

N'awww

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Lex

That's lovely, i'm glad that you have the same relationship as I do with my kids. It's the meaning of life you know!



Yes, my Gladys couldn't keep her hands off me ...but I didn't stuggle much Niamh..because she was gorgeous! ..

aw Lex,you sound like a lovely man and all those lovely kidslucky Gladys

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He battered more than 1 wife

That's libellous. As is a lot of the other stuff you and some others have been plastering over this forum.

And I have pointed this out to you twice before and both times you never bothered to reply....

Why were you supporting Jim before the Frank Carson drama if all of the stuff you have been posting bothered you so much?

[Kazanne]

This is one of the reasons I like Jim so much
1.28pm: Casey: "There's nothing wrong with Page 3, everyone's got boobs." Jim: "I know what you mean, I need to go to the gym!" #bbuklive


No doubt someone will put a sexual spin on that,I thought it funny.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

This is one of the reasons I like Jim so much
1.28pm: Casey: "There's nothing wrong with Page 3, everyone's got boobs." Jim: "I know what you mean, I need to go to the gym!"

I love it.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

This is one of the reasons I like Jim so much
1.28pm: Casey: "There's nothing wrong with Page 3, everyone's got boobs." Jim: "I know what you mean, I need to go to the gym!" #bbuklive


No doubt someone will put a sexual spin on that,I thought it funny.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Lex

Yes, my Gladys couldn't keep her hands off me ...but I didn't stuggle much Niamh..because she was gorgeous! ..

If my beloved said that (bolded above) about me, he'd be sleeping in the spare room.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I wonder where his kids were when he threw their Mum downstairs or battered her with barbell

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They didn't have children Chuff.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He battered more than 1 wife

Originally Posted by Josy

That's libellous. As is a lot of the other stuff you and some others have been plastering over this forum.

And I have pointed this out to you twice before and both times you never bothered to reply....

Why were you supporting Jim before the Frank Carson drama if all of the stuff you have been posting bothered you so much?

if it didn't happen make it up, problem with that is not everyone will take what is written as a fact and will actually google stuff for themselves.

[Patricia4]

Chuff I agreed with you at the start because you was a fan of Jim but now you've changed why?