[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Please please tell me how Russia is a threat to you... ...??

How many times have they invaded Britain , exactly ... They are no threat , they just want to be left to develop their country and utilise their resources.

They are only a threat when they are constantly prodded and probed by our friends across the water who think they have a God given right to rule the whole flipping planet.

They are also a threat when they decide to sell oil and gas in currencies other than US dollars, a bit like the other countries who tried to do this eg Iraq,Libya, Afghanistan, Syria they all seem to have found themselves bombed invaded and their leaders overthrown.

Anyone see a pattern emerging.... Probably half the reason Iran is under such scrutiny because it wants to set up an oil bourse that doesn't trade exclusively in USD .

Once China depegs it's currency from the USD it too will be a target for aggressive US sanctions / actions.

Bottom line is that the U.S. are only surviving by virtue of the fact that the rest of the world buys their debt by using the USD as the world's reserve currency. Once that goes the US will implode so trust me when I say that they will do absolutely anything and everything they can to maintain the status quo.

Question- in times of global tension where does all the money go where is it stored ?
Ans - in US Dollars






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I do agree with majority of your post regarding oil currency and have seen many programmes on this.But as i said none of this makes Russias arrogant invasion of a European country any better.It is too bold of a card to play and has ramped up East/West tensions beyond anything seen since the Cold War.Putin can't just go and Annex a European country by force and yes he does have influence over the rebels and alot of them are Russian special forces along with advanced AA weaponary which the Eastern Ukrainians would not have access to.

So far the West has'nt retaliated but Putin did'nt stop at Crimea,He is expanding his aggression further and further into Ukraine and if is left unhindered who knows where he will stop.

If he pushes further and further west and heads for Kiev which is not that far fetched as his momentum grows then the fighting will be fierce and America and very likely Britain,Poland,Germany etc will send troops in and it will be the start of a world disaster which could very easily escalate into a serious conflict bigger than any seen so far.So yes Russia is a threat to all of us.It played to strong a hand and was uncalled for.If the Ukrainian people want to be part of the EU or even Nato then that is up to them.Russias bully tactics should not be tolerated.I do believe that if the Eastern Ukraine wants to become autonamous then they should have a right to vote on that WITHOUT Russia influencing the vote with troops as they did in Crimea but if Russia gets greedy and pushes toward Kiev then we are all in trouble.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I do agree with majority of your post regarding oil currency and have seen many programmes on this.But as i said none of this makes Russias arrogant invasion of a European country any better.It is too bold of a card to play and has ramped up East/West tensions beyond anything seen since the Cold War.Putin can't just go and Annex a European country by force and yes he does have influence over the rebels and alot of them are Russian special forces along with advanced AA weaponary which the Eastern Ukrainians would not have access to.

So far the West has'nt retaliated but Putin did'nt stop at Crimea,He is expanding his aggression further and further into Ukraine and if is left unhindered who knows where he will stop.

If he pushes further and further west and heads for Kiev which is not that far fetched as his momentum grows then the fighting will be fierce and America and very likely Britain,Poland,Germany etc will send troops in and it will be the start of a world disaster which could very easily escalate into a serious conflict bigger than any seen so far.So yes Russia is a threat to all of us.It played to strong a hand and was uncalled for.If the Ukrainian people want to be part of the EU or even Nato then that is up to them.Russias bully tactics should not be tolerated.I do believe that if the Eastern Ukraine wants to become autonamous then they should have a right to vote on that WITHOUT Russia influencing the vote with troops as they did in Crimea but if Russia gets greedy and pushes toward Kiev then we are all in trouble.

First of all.... Why oh why would Russia want to invade Ukraine and go marching on to Kiev, even Putin isn't that stupid.

Besides Ukraine is a bankrupt country and is heading towards failed state status, no Russia doesn't need to invade the Ukraine it will always be a major partner to ukraine , a protector and a bank ready to give ukraine the money it needs with less strings attached than the IMF or world bank.

Do some research into what US companies have set up in Ukraine, massive agri industries like Monsanto ready to grow even more GM crops at the expense of Ukraine's already established agricultural industries.

By setting up this current puppet govt with its masters in Washington the Ukrainian people East and west have been sold a lie and their country is now a battlefield in proxy Cold War.

Such a shame that the rest of the world did not condemn the illegal revolution in Ukraine in 2013.

Look at where we are now, all totally unnecessary.

I hope the European peace initiative works and the fighting and killing stops but I doubt it as the US is furious Putin took Crimea to protect its naval bases in Sevastopol when really the big payback for the US was supposed to be the new Ukrainian govt terminating the leases for these bases and forcing Russia into a corner.

But as usual President Putin out manoeuvred the US as he thinks two or three moves ahead.

As someone once said the US president plays draughts while the Russian president plays chess.

Don't be fooled the US has created this whole crisis for its own geopolitical agenda , I just wish more innocent people didn't have to die in the crossfire.





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