[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't agree, due to the sterilisation of the thread there's no point discussing it further and any examples have gone.
So draw a line under it I want the thread to remain open thank you.

I agree. When one of the main posters thinks its been editted fairly then there must be something seriously wrong. Ask for the thread to be deleted the mods delete aristas threads when he complains.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I agree too. When one of the main posters thinks its been editted fairly then there must be something seriously wrong. Ask for the thread to be deleted the mods delete aristas threads when he complains.

I have no problem what so ever deleting this thread if Kizzy wants me to, the only reason I reopened it was because Kizzy wanted to post up dates on the story which she can still do. i won't how ever be leaving the arguing and sniping and some of the more offensive posts

[MTVN]

There's six pages of discussion over her comments on here, the thread has hardly been completely wiped clean. Is the discussion on these pages not adequate or is it only considered real debate when we have arguments and offensive comments flying everywhere

[Kizzy]

I did ask for it to be reopened as it had in my absence descended into the usual off topic rants.
I didn't ask for it to be removed of all opinion that countered my own, which appears to be what's happened, I do want it to be left open thanks.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I did ask for it to be reopened as it had in my absence descended into the usual off topic rants.
I didn't ask for it to be removed of all opinion that countered my own, which appears to be what's happened, I do want it to be left open thanks.

Any posts been removed were done so because they contained arguing, sniping and offensive comments.

Back on topic now please.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I have no problem what so ever deleting this thread if Kizzy wants me to, the only reason I reopened it was because Kizzy wanted to post up dates on the story which she can still do. i won't how ever be leaving the arguing and sniping and some of the more offensive posts

I have suffered previously from having many posts removed - a lot of which I did not agree with because I felt they were inoccuous - but I did not cxomplain, as I have not complained on this thread. It is however more than unfair that KIZZY can get the thread re-opened at will then KIZZY can apparently have the entire thread DELETED if SHE wants?

What about the rest of us forum members who take time and trouble to post?

The discussion on this thread did not follow in a smooth chronological sequence - as it rarely does on any thread - so the gist of the discussion has not been severely impaired by editing, and what is more, the editing has left a fair balance of posts from both sides of the argument so what possible reason would there be to delete ALL the thread?

Yours Faithfully, Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by MTVN

There's six pages of discussion over her comments on here, the thread has hardly been completely wiped clean. Is the discussion on these pages not adequate or is it only considered real debate when we have arguments and offensive comments flying everywhere

I agree.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I have suffered previously from having many posts removed - a lot of which I did not agree with because I felt they were inoccuous - but I did not cxomplain, as I have not complained on this thread. It is however more than unfair that KIZZY can get the thread re-opened at will then KIZZY can apparently have the entire thread DELETED if SHE wants?

What about the rest of us forum members who take time and trouble to post?

The discussion on this thread did not follow in a smooth chronological sequence - as it rarely does on any thread - so the gist of the discussion has not been severely impaired by editing, and what is more, and the editing has left a fair balance of posts from both sides of the argument so what possible reason would there be to delete ALL the thread?

Yours Faithfully, Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells.

It's Kizzys thread, I have often closed threads for people who started them on their request. Are you trying to make out that Kizzy gets special treatment on here? I doubt Kizzy herself would even agree with that

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's Kizzys thread, I have often closed threads for people who started them on their request. Are you trying to make out that Kizzy gets special treatment on here? I doubt Kizzy herself would even agree with that

No Niamh I wouldn't dare. I think if you look at how I signed my post off you will see I was being 'tongue-in-cheek'.

But I do think the editing's been fairly carried out - Who did it Josy?

[Kizzy]

A petition calling for the sacking of a newspaper columnist for comments she made about migrants crossing the Mediterranean has attracted about 250,000 signatures - but one calling for a rescue mission has attracted less support.
Katie Hopkins' screed against migrants - in an article in the 17 April edition of The Sun she called them "cockroaches" and advocated using gunships to stop people crossing the Mediterranean - has earned her a quarter of a million detractors calling for her to be sacked on petition site Change.org.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32395272

A campaign calling for a rescue mission for migrants crossing the Mediterranean has eclipsed the push to oust newspaper columnist Katie Hopkins on a popular online petition site.
On Tuesday, Trending reported on the petition calling for The Sun newspaper to sack columnist Katie Hopkins for her comments about migrants. More than 250,000 people had put their names to that cause, and we noted that another petition - this one calling for an emergency EU mission to the Mediterranean - was only receiving a fraction of the support.
The tables have now turned. Tareke Brahne's call to "Stop the deaths at sea now!" eclipsed the anti-Hopkins petition early Wednesday UK time and had more than 280,000 supporters as of writing. Brahne, a migrant from Eritrea now living in Italy, is caling on the European Union to "restore a robust operation of search and rescue at sea."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32414321

The tables are turning....

[arista]

"The tables are turning."


I am sure her team are aware of all this
see how far it goes?

[Iceman]

Seriously you all need to give it a rest. I'm sick to my back teeth seeing you all try to get one up on each other. Children aren't this bad. Take this as a final warning. Bans are next.

[Kizzy]

Brands view

Youtube video

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well go on then

Damn you Niamh, I was trying to create a paradox that might mess with the Tibb-Time-Continuum and cause the thread to spontaneously implode and be erased from existence and memory completely!

But your casual tea drinking smilie has completely countered the effect. I should have foreseen this

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Brands view

Youtube video

I think Hopkins and Brand should just have some sort of deathmatch. Brand is an ex-junkie but he's all love and peace these days... and Hopkins is hard as nails in theory but, as we learned from Big Brother, rather soft in person... I reckon it could get messy.

[Kizzy]

Two hundred black body bags were lined up on Brighton beach by campaigners highlighting Britain’s “shameful” response to the migrant crisis in the Mediterranean.

Amnesty supporters zipped themselves into some of the body bags alongside a banner displaying the hashtag #DontLetThemDrown.

A campaigner then laid a wreath in the middle of the mass of bodies as they lay sprawled on the beach in front of the Brighton Wheel.

The stunt was staged as European leaders come under mounting pressure to agree a plan to stem the rising number of migrants killed trying to reach Europe for a better life.

Amnesty’s UK director, Kate Allen, said: “Until now, the British government’s response has been shameful but finally foreign ministers seem to be waking up to the need to act. EU governments must now urgently turn their rhetoric into action to stop more people drowning on their way to Europe.”

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...migrant-crisis

[Kazanne]

I think there is a petition now for KH to keep her job and be allowed her freedom of speech.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Kizzy - I think it's been FAIRLY deleted, but no one actually DID agree with Hopkins being given the right to address the nation via the sun 'newspaper' anyway, so that part's not missing.

Of course you think it was fairly edited Kirk, the new edit cut off giving you the last word!

Although I actually thought the original point where it closed was quite unfair... I actually considered PMing to say as much being honest. I have no problem calling people out with what I think of their opinions, but not if they don't have the opportunity to reply at all... that just sux.

In other words, in my opinion, the thread should either have stayed open in the first place OR it should have been cropped right back to the first page. But then, I'm not a mod... just a big fat thread derailerer

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think there is a petition now for KH to keep her job and be allowed her freedom of speech.

As I said earlier, she hasn't been denied her freedom of speech. She has twitter, she can even set up her own website and post these things if she want. Freely available for everyone to see... freedom of speech NOT affected in any way.

Whether or not her opinions should be featured in a mainstream publication with massive readership and influence isn't a freedom of speech issue at all.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Damn you Niamh, I was trying to create a paradox that might mess with the Tibb-Time-Continuum and cause the thread to spontaneously implode and be erased from existence and memory completely!

But your casual tea drinking smilie has completely countered the effect. I should have foreseen this

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Brands view

Youtube video

I just love Russell, i agree with almost everything he says, could listen to him all day long. Spot on again in that video

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Of course you think it was fairly edited Kirk, the new edit cut off giving you the last word!

Although I actually thought the original point where it closed was quite unfair... I actually considered PMing to say as much being honest. I have no problem calling people out with what I think of their opinions, but not if they don't have the opportunity to reply at all... that just sux.

In other words, in my opinion, the thread should either have stayed open in the first place OR it should have been cropped right back to the first page. But then, I'm not a mod... just a big fat thread derailerer

As the OP I demand the last word Niamh said so here..

Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
I don't agree, due to the sterilisation of the thread there's no point discussing it further and any examples have gone.
So draw a line under it I want the thread to remain open thank you.

JINX!!! no comebacks!!

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think there is a petition now for KH to keep her job and be allowed her freedom of speech.

She should of course be allowed her freedom of speech which would not be taken from her anyway but the platform from which she spouts her **** from could (and should IMO) be removed. She would still have her twitter etc from which to vent

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think there is a petition now for KH to keep her job and be allowed her freedom of speech.

mmm the freedom to refer to other human beings as cockroaches, yay for her

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I just love Russell, i agree with almost everything he says, could listen to him all day long. Spot on again in that video

I do think he has Katie Hopkins spot on really. She is a tormented individual in pain and she feels the need to lash out with that pain at other people... and it's policy and the horrible opinions of other people that gives her targets. It just happens to have made her a lot of money. If any evidence is needed of this, just rewatch her in CBB. The woman has to fight back tears if anyone says anything even passably nice about her. That is really not normal...