[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Don't agree with Brand at all that Hopkins is espousing established policy. He doesn't even say what he mean by that in fact he just starts comparing her to Himmler. It might be valid to compare her rhetoric with that of the Nazis but the Nazis aren't exactly established policy anymore are they. Our politicians are actually all united in the need to do more to tackle this problem, most of them in favour of a European wide or a worldwide solution. It's an incredibly complicated issue though and there is no simple remedy however much Brand thinks we can solve all the worlds problems by making "individual transitions" to "find your own humanity". Him making out that her views are representative of mainstream society and established policy, rather than purely representing Hopkins insatiable need to satisfy her own ego with media converage, is just as stupid as her being allowed a column in the most popular national newspaper.

Whether or not the nazis are an established party today or not is irrelevant, it's still possible to draw a comparison. He is correct that it was policy..it may be changing quickly but as of last oct it was.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Whether or not the nazis are an established party today or not is irrelevant, it's still possible to draw a comparison. He is correct that it was policy..it may be changing quickly but as of last oct it was.

To draw a comparison between the rhetoric of Hopkins and that of the Nazis yes, not to draw a comparison between their policy and today's policy. It is relevant whether the Nazis policy is that which is established today because what Brand says is:

"[Katie Hopkins] is merely the voice of, in many cases, established policy. One of the things Katie Hopkins said is 'these people are like cockroaches', when people are like cockroaches what valued does their life have? None, they're just gonna breed all over the place, they breed like hell, this is actually a common view of displaced people or unpopular sections of society. A notable psychological and ideological compatriot of Katie Hopkins is Himmler"

So Brand makes a wild claim - that Katie Hopkins is the voice of established policy - and then completely fails to explain that and makes the immediate association with the Nazis instead. Sorry Russell mate but you've gotta do better than that if you actually want to present yourself as a serious authority on politics. You can't just throw around wild claims and big words in an attempt to make yourself look smart and convincing.

What do you mean about last October?