[caprimint]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you know you can do both

judge him as a housemate and judge his extensive social media profile prior


Its not against the law

I didn't say it was, I personally just don't deem it relevant when we're watching a show like this. If you dug up everyone's backgrounds you'd probably find a whole lot more information, but then you'd be against supporting anybody. Somebody could be absolutely lovely on social media, it doesn't mean they're a nice person but in the house they could be a riot.

Originally Posted by Livia

He's in Big Brother. This is an Internet forum about Big Brother. He put himself up for discussion while being aware of the bigoted posts he'd made in the past so forgive us all if we're here doing what this place is designed for.

Of course it's going to happen. It's just a shame that it does before they're given a real chance to prove their worth.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

This is a pic of his dad:

https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upl...phpgfKRST.jpeg

Andrew is part black.

Oh that is hilarious .....I don't know what's true about the guy but I do know pics from sum Twitter page aren't concrete evidence ....if it turns out those tweets are fake then a lot of people on here should feel very guilty indeed

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by bobnot

You are making the mistake of thinking anybody other than a couple of dozen BB addicted forum posting obsessives give a dogs dick about it or him.
Really who cares about some chode on a little watched backwater reality show.

Well you clearly do cause you're hear and your talking about it

[Northern Monkey]

Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

[hot2go]

Personally I think he's not like anyone else in there and will be a massive challenge to all of them and I wanna watch that....he ain't gonna be riding round on some bed or taking permanent residence in front of the bedroom mirrors....he's gonna blow the f-ckin roof off ....you want nice guys then go watch the Care Bears

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

But it shows that black people can use racist language without being racist.

Do you really believe that Andrew is racist, given that his dad is clearly black and he is part black?

Again, you're being dense and you know it.

You know perfectly well that the N-Word's origin and you know full well that there's a variant of it that has been reclaimed by some black people to mean something less offensive to them.

Being part black doesn't excuse him from being racist and it's fair to think that he is a racist given how he has used racial slurs towards other people and is generally bigoted.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well according to a small minority of people 'black people can't be racist'(unless it suits their agenda of course).Anyway after watching his vid on Muslim terrorists he does'nt seem racist towards them.Maybe he is racist towards black people or maybe he has changed since 2012 or maybe he did'nt mean his tweets and it was just his humour or maybe......
Loads of maybes but nobody actually knows.

That's bull**** and you know it. No one has ever said that black people can't be racist, it's just a misquote used by closet racists in an attempt to justify their ****ty views.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

where did you get that picture?

I dressed entirely in black and cat burgled his house in the middle of the night and stole that picture from a drawer in his study. Then scanned it in to my PC.

Or perhaps I just googled his famous chess player dad.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Again, you're being dense and you know it.

You know perfectly well that the N-Word's origin and you know full well that there's a variant of it that has been reclaimed by some black people to mean something less offensive to them.

Being part black doesn't excuse him from being racist and it's fair to think that he is a racist given how he has used racial slurs towards other people and is generally bigoted.

Please don't make me post the definition of bigot again.

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that. He is just a bit of a WUM on twitter.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that.

If he's not a bigot what's that video about where he calls people idiots for expressing their opinion about the Smith's?

Yes you can be racist towards your own race.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I dressed entirely in black and cat burgled his house in the middle of the night and stole that picture from a drawer in his study. Then scanned it in to my PC.

Or perhaps I just googled his famous chess player dad.

There's no need to be rude, Jez :/

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There's no need to be rude, Jez :/

It just seemed an odd question. Given that the source of the pic is in the URL when you click it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It just seemed an odd question. Given that the source of the pic is in the URL when you click it.

I didn't know he was a famous chess player

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I didn't know he was a famous chess player

So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Please don't make me post the definition of bigot again.

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that. He is just a bit of a WUM on twitter.

You need to read those tweets again.

Ah, the ol' 'I'm not a bigot! YOU'RE THE BIGOT FOR NOT AGREEING WITH ME' line. You're the one that needs to read the definition of bigot because disagreeing with someone doens't make you a bigot and no one has said anything about wanting to suppress his right to his opinion.

That's the annoying thing about bigots, they get really upset when people disagree with their views, they act like they are under attack, that they're the only people with a right to an opinion, that their word is law. Everyone has a right to an opinion. Andrew can say whatever bull**** comes to mind and anyone can call his view bigoted because that's THEIR opinion and their entitled to it as much as he is. It's a two way street, not just a get out of jail free card to justify a person's terrible opinions.

He's shown time and time again that he is both a bigoted and awful human being. Accept it or not, it doesn't change what he is.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

The racist and homophobic tweets are usually enough to tip most people off that he's a bigot.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The racist and homophobic tweets are usually enough to tip most people off that he's a bigot.

You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters. That tag applies more to andrew's detractors than it does to andrew.

It just looks ignorant to keep using the wrong word.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters.

You're completely correct. And what better person to fit the definition than the man himself.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

You're completely correct. And what better person to fit the definition than the man himself.

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

I don't think the person who asked you about Andrews dad being a chess player has called Andrew a def racist ...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters. That tag applies more to andrew's detractors than it does to andrew.

It just looks ignorant to keep using the wrong word.

You aren't someone that should be calling other people ignorant given how deep your head is buried in the sand over Andrew's comments.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

Well, if we look over the evidence we've been given, he clearly doesn't think much of the opinions and views of different races, different sexualities and different genders. You say a bigot is someone who is intolerant of those holding different opinions, so you're merely just confirming the fact that Andrew is one. You ought to work on your defence, really.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You aren't someone that should be calling other people ignorant given how deep your head is buried in the sand over Andrew's comments.

I simply haven't taken his comments in isolation. The briefest bit of investigoogling reveals him to be black. Believing a black man can be racist against blacks is as dense as it gets, in my opinion.

At worst, he is just a twitter troll in the katie hopkins or frankie boyle mode.

The desire to make it something else is simply fans of other housemates trying to scuttle him.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

Weren't you the one last year campaigning for Danny to be ejected/evicted because of a few tweets he'd made in the past, even going so far as to create a ****ing website called 'getdannyout.com'?