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Originally Posted by jaxie

Why is being outside the EU so unknown, there were thousands of years without it before 1973 and we managed to get along!

I think there is a lot of uncertainty over the EU. A lot of member countries are falling to the far right in elections because we aren't the only ones unhappy with the EU and being patronised by our politics and a lot of people don't feel they have anywhere else to go. The Greek debacle is far from over, there is another round in July. The Euro is a failure. And most worrying of all those forging ahead to ever closer union are either oblivious or simply don't give a stuff what anyone else thinks.

We do not have to accept any closer union however, that is part of the deal won by David Cameron.
Which he still,even from his own party, is not getting better credit for what he did in fact win.

Govts of all colours,in Countries come and go, as also do the officials in the EU.
That has gone on for all the time we have been in the Common Market and then the EU too.
It has not hindered or destroyed any success the UK has been able to make.
We will also never have to be part of the Euro, another reinforcement from David Cameron's negotiations.

Furthermore even if the EU did try to force some treaty changes or even changes to our conditions now.
We not only have a veto to that but also entrenched in UK law, passed by the Coalition govt. between 2010 and 2015, is that any treaty cannot now just be signed automatically by the PM of any UK govt.
It must be put for approval via referendum to the British Electorate.

All that is more than good enough for me at this time.

Also it is over 40 years since we were not tied to Europe in some economic way.
Also for around 15 years before we joined the EEC in 1973, we were constantly working to be in and near desperate to being in too for the massive market it would open up to us,a market we risk losing the unique deal we have to at present should we leave.

No other EU Nation has the unique deal we have now as a member, with our opt outs, no treaty changes if we don't want them, never joining the Euro and no changes without our agreement to any conditions we have.

Furthermore,remaining in, were the EU to even try to force anything we didn't want on us,which I feel as sure as I can be they will not.
They know full well that Could trigger another likely Uk referendum,so that is another insurance we have staying in.

Once out,even if we desperately wanted to, there will be no way back at all as to being in.
Just many other reasons why I support staying in now.