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Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, I don't disagree with what you're saying. But it does kind of endorse the nature of the Trump protest which has mostly been carried out by people who claim to be aware of the world's injustice but seem quite blinkered in which cause they choose to stand against. (I am not referring to anyone specifically on this site, I'm making a general statement.) It's a similar position, I think, to Russia bombing the bejesus out of Aleppo and the Stop The War Coalition, who are aggressive in their opposition to the involvement of the UK and the USA but who were ominously silent about Russia. If you're going to be outraged, you're going to have to be outraged about all of them. We've hosted more odious people than Trump, and in any case, I wouldn't be at all surprised if his term of office is considerably less than four years. And I'd be happy with that.

Again, it goes back to my original point, Putin is basically a dictator of a communist country, he isn't "one of us" the UK and the USA are, so we(the royal we) feel like they will listen to us, It's hard to articulate what i mean to say. Do you understand what I mean?

Putin is a nut job, the Russians hold very different values to us as a society where as the USA in general are quite like us, alot of them are unhappy with how things are in the States atm too. I don't think people protesting about Russia would make any bit of difference but it might do in a democratic and free society like ours.

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Basically imo ISIS is succeeding even more than we think by dividing Western society, pitting us all against eachother and destroying the values we spent years building. Trump is an example of this especially, building walls, banning refugees, hang up on other western world leaders, making us enemies rather than allies. In my opinion this is a more successful terrorist attack on our society than any of the bombs they set off