[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Why do you keep ignoring the majority of my posts and making out that my only argument is common sense? Also I know exactly what your argument is, I've commented on it enough just for you to keep ignoring it and focusing on bits you can misrepresent.

I haven't got a lack of evidence, I am the ****ing evidence, years of research that has yet to prove that games can have a detrimental effect on people's real life empathy or reactions to violence IS my evidence too. You are literally clinging to one study that stated an obvious fact, people become desensitised to VIRTUAL violence when they see a lot of it but no study has been able to prove there's a similar desensitivity to actual violence because of exposure to similated violence. I've explained why it's the case for films as well multiple times but you chose to ignore it since you can't argue against it.

Violent video games are not a new fangled thing, they have been around for over twenty years, if they have a negative effect on children we would have seen results or proof of that but we haven't.

Well you DID state an opinion like it was a fact.



I've never stated my opinions like they are facts obviously because I've repeated my mantra on opinions repeatedly in this thread, keep up Kizzy.

I'm bored of you now to be honest, you you can't ****ing have a study of one ****ing person for ****s sake!

For clarification I feel games now have the capacity to cause desensitisation and normalise violence... if you don't agree let it be said I just don't give a flying ****, whatever your opinion is I don't give a rats arse! I did not state my opinion as fact... ****ing fact!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

I'm bored of you now to be honest, you you can't ****ing have a study of one ****ing person for ****s sake!

For clarification I feel games now have the capacity to cause desensitisation and normalise violence... if you don't agree let it be said I just don't give a flying ****, whatever your opinion is I don't give a rats arse! I did not state my opinion as fact... ****ing fact!

If you read my posts properly, you would know I was referring to the fact that, like so many other people, I could watch and play what I wanted from an early age and that it didn't normalise real life violence for me since, again like so many other people, I can tell the difference between reality and a video game. That's my argument for why I am proof that video games doesn't normalise violence because it certainly did not in my case or in the cases of many others on this site who had similar unrestricted access to mature content as a child.

As I've said a thousand times (which you will ignore like you have this entire thread, your study that you keep mentioning holds no merit on the discussion of violence desensitivity in real life since it only proved what should have been obvious to everyone, that playing violent video games will desensitise you to VIRTUAL violence. That study has no impact on the discussion of video games normalising violence or desensitising people to ACTUAL violence.

I will continue to comment on yours' and other opinions just like you are free to do so to me because that's my ****ing right to do and you've just got to accept that.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If you read my posts properly, you would know I was referring to the fact that, like so many other people, I could watch and play what I wanted from an early age and that it didn't normalise real life violence for me since, again like so many other people, I can tell the difference between reality and a video game. That's my argument for why I am proof that video games doesn't normalise violence because it certainly did not in my case or in the cases of many others on this site who had similar unrestricted access to mature content as a child.

As I've said a thousand times (which you will ignore like you have this entire thread, your study that you keep mentioning holds no merit on the discussion of violence desensitivity in real life since it only proved what should have been obvious to everyone, that playing violent video games will desensitise you to VIRTUAL violence. That study has no impact on the discussion of video games normalising violence or desensitising people to ACTUAL violence.

I will continue to comment on yours' and other opinions just like you are free to do so to me because that's my ****ing right to do and you've just got to accept that.

Go for it ... Fill your boots.

My opinions remains the same.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

Go for it ... Fill your boots.

My opinions remains the same.

Luckily, your opinion also remains uninformed and irrelevant.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Luckily, your opinion also remains uninformed and irrelevant.

Irrelevant... in what context?

I can handle being uninformed I never professed to being a gaming aficionado... But irrel?... Why not go the extra mile and throw a gurl bai in there?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

Irrelevant... in what context?

I can handle being uninformed I never professed to being a gaming aficionado... But irrel?... Why not go the extra mile and throw a gurl bai in there?

Well... Irrelevant to gamers, game publishers, retailers and to regulators responsible for giving age ratings to games content / allowing them to go to market. So, I guess in this context... Irrelevant to anyone who actually matters?

[user104658]

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yeah, I do think it's a problem with competitive attitudes rather than with the games themselves. When you fail in single player games, it's no one's fault but your own but when people lose in competitive games against other people they can place the blame at someone else's door.

That's not exclusive to video games, nor is it a problem that video games have created.

There's also a lot of taunting / goading / name calling that goes on over the headsets... That's where a lot of the frustration comes from . But it's literally the exact same crap that was going on in the playground when people were playing sports and other playground games. Except actual fights started then. But no one was getting up in arms about it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Well... Irrelevant to gamers, game publishers, retailers and to regulators responsible for giving age ratings to games content / allowing them to go to market. So, I guess in this context... Irrelevant to anyone who actually matters?

Just when I think you couldn't get any higher on that soapbox... you surpass yourself.

Anyone can have an opinion on anything

Just because your arrogance prevents you from accepting that people who are not gamers can and do have opinions on games it does not follow that they are 'irrelevant' in any debate.
AsI stated previously I could trawl this forum and find 101 topics that you have not and could not have any experience in of of and yet you participate as is your right ... Why then am I not afforded the same courtesy?

You actually appear affronted that someone over 40 and female has the audacity to comment at all on the subject.