[Tinsel Toes]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Two things can be true at once - politicians can be acting stupidly, and it can also be stupid to cluster outside someone's house.

Well he's already had it so they prob think he's no threat to them !

[Smithy]

Even the daily fail turning on Boris, we love to see it!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Even the daily fail turning on Boris, we love to see it!

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Even the hairy bikers are disgusted

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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It’s clear he went up there for the Easter break...he and his wife are probably not used to looking after their son all day everyday either so it suited them to have family to help

Why have kids if you can't be arsed to look after them on the rare occasions you aren't at work and they aren't at school, remember this was in the middle of lockdown...you were quite militant at the time iirc about kids mixing with other kids, now it's ok to infect your family and grandparents because it's too 'stressful' to entertain a 4yr old yourself?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why have kids if you can't be arsed to look after them on the rare occasions you aren't at work and they aren't at school, remember this was in the middle of lockdown...you were quite militant at the time iirc about kids mixing with other kids, now it's ok to infect your family and grandparents because it's too 'stressful' to entertain a 4yr old yourself?

I don’t think Cherie was defending them?

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[Liam-]

[user104658]

"allegations"? Hopefully "Jamie" is just thick and doesn't know the definition.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What difference does it make if they stayed in a different house? , what does he mean...like a holiday home or annex, travelling to another part of the country was not allowed and staying in a place that was not your main abode wasn’t allowed and still isn’t and the fact he had symptoms so took the virus with him as well I wonder if he stopped to fill up at a petrol station or to use the facilities or did he cross his legs for the duration


He needs to go

Originally Posted by Cherie

His kids were safe in his home London..no? The rules are you live at your main address...

Originally Posted by Cherie

Excuse me? Why are you getting personal? did his kid not need a wee then on this trip to Durham, was his wife ill, who was driving and if they were so ill how could they possibly drive safely

Don’t speak to me again unless you can be civil

Originally Posted by Cherie

From the gov.uk website


Stay alert

We can all help control the virus if we all stay alert. This means you must:

stay at home as much as possible
work from home if you can
limit contact with other people
keep your distance if you go out (2 metres apart where possible)
wash your hands regularly
Do not leave home if you or anyone in your household has symptoms.

Don’t see how anyone can defend this, maybe he got confused like half the population seem to be by simple messages

Originally Posted by Cherie

So according to the tweets coming out of Downing Street it was his wife who had symptoms and his sister and nieces offered to look after his child ...it just gets worse...self isolate at home with your infected wife and look after your own child like everyone else is asked to do

PMQs will be interesting next week if he isn’t gone before then

Originally Posted by Cherie

Dominic Raab to face the music today? Boris on Weds I don’t think Starmer will let it go

Originally Posted by Cherie

Cummings should have been on the 3rd podium which was empty today

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why have kids if you can't be arsed to look after them on the rare occasions you aren't at work and they aren't at school, remember this was in the middle of lockdown...you were quite militant at the time iirc about kids mixing with other kids, now it's ok to infect your family and grandparents because it's too 'stressful' to entertain a 4yr old yourself?

Err rather than jumping on me to try and start a row why not read digest my other posts on the thread

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I don’t think Cherie was defending them?

Thanks Jake, no I wasn’t

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by toy soldier

"allegations"? Hopefully "jamie" is just thick and doesn't know the definition.

[Cherry Christmas]

Even ‘if’ the child has autism the guidance did not change until 9th April and it doesn’t cover the Barnham Castle unnecessary trip which may have occurred while they should both have still been in quarantine

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Just thick then; "allegation" is quite specifically defined as a claim of misconduct or wrong-doing.

I accept that he actually means "claims" or "assertions" but he should be more careful when using big words that he doesn't understand, and also actually check the definition when challenged, and apologise. It's deeply offensive.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Even ‘if’ the child has autism the guidance did not change until 9th April and it doesn’t cover the Barnham Castle unnecessary trip which may have occurred while they should both have still been in quarantine

Exactly, the guidelines being changed after the incident, doesn’t make the incident any less wrong and even then, the new guideline still doesn’t allow for the trip he took, desperate right wingers are using this as the last possible defence, if all else fails, use the kid, it’s revolting

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Even ‘if’ the child has autism the guidance did not change until 9th April and it doesn’t cover the Barnham Castle unnecessary trip which may have occurred while they should both have still been in quarantine

It's definitely a twisted interpretation of the guidance... it was a court ruling that was put in place so that people with disabilities who need access to more stimulation / outdoor activity for their mental wellbeing could have access to that. e.g. we have made use of it to occasionally drive 25 mins to the beach with my daughter on days when she's been distressed (as it always calms her down and has a lasting effect). But that's basically what it was intended for; outdoor exercise/activity outwith the immediate local area for people who have a specific need for that (so for us going to the beach, for people living in cities could just be driving out to the countryside). It was never intended for road trips across the country!

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's definitely a twisted interpretation of the guidance... it was a court ruling that was put in place so that people with disabilities who need access to more stimulation / outdoor activity for their mental wellbeing could have access to that. e.g. we have made use of it to occasionally drive 25 mins to the beach with my daughter on days when she's been distressed (as it always calms her down and has a lasting effect). But that's basically what it was intended for; outdoor exercise/activity outwith the immediate local area for people who have a specific need for that (so for us going to the beach, for people living in cities could just be driving out to the countryside). It was never intended for road trips across the country!

As far as I have read it was just the two if them in Bluebell wood, there was no mention of the child which would mitigate it ‘if’ he autism

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

As far as I have read it was just the two if them in Bluebell wood, there was no mention of the child which would mitigate it ‘if’ he autism

Well yes like I said earlier, I don't buy at all that the child was the reason for any of it... if he even is autistic? That seems to be unknown anyway. He's being used as an excuse which is really, really sad. The obvious reason for all of it is that Dom Cummings does not consider himself "general public" and felt that the rules didn't apply to him. I don't think this is a surprise really. The situation with Johnson and Cummings has been really ****ing odd for years, with him quite blatantly pulling all sorts of major strings. Johnson refusing to get rid of him now is really concerning. There's literally no way he's just "a trusted advisor" - he clearly has influence, somewhere, that runs deep.

Either that or he's been sucking Boris off under the desk.

[Liam-]

His trips were never about child care or anything else, he thinks he’s above the public and broke the rules to go and be with his mother on her birthday and to go away for his wife’s birthday, it’s absolutely no coincidence, as much as the entire situation boils my piss, it’s actually quite amusing to see different people twisting themselves up into different stories to try and defend what actually happened