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Marsh. · 28-07-2018, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Im guessing her hubby works so couldnt have the kid and her work doesnt allow her to bring her kid in...so she left it in the car knowingly....but unaware of the danger.

"guessing"

Ok.

It also doesn't hold up as if she intentionally left the baby assuming they would be fine in the car then surely she'd have been out more regularly to feed and change the child as Kazanne said.

Kazanne · 28-07-2018, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Honestly you would think that a parent never killed their child ever! The baby was 3 months, so can't have been in nursery very long, the least you would do is ring up in your lunchbreak to see how the baby is doing, my sister and her hubby run a kennels and dogs can be left for the day, and people ring up to see how they are doing. It may have been a tragedy but it still needs to be investigated also it looks like she was estranged from the father so there may be a revenge element if he took up with someone else....

This was my thinking ,she was his ex.

Ashley. · 28-07-2018, 03:06 PM

The most important responsibility as a parent is putting your child's needs above your own. Of course she didn't leave him in the car on purpose, but an innocent life was lost because she failed to be a parent that day. She'll receive the punishment of having to live with her actions for the rest of her life, and heaven forbid she has any more children.

thesheriff443 · 28-07-2018, 03:14 PM

They say elephants never forget, it's clear humans do forget, I forgot about picking my daughter up from school do to concentrating so much on work.

When humans have to many things on their mind they make mistakes.

thesheriff443 · 28-07-2018, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

The most important responsibility as a parent is putting your child's needs above your own. Of course she didn't leave him in the car on purpose, but an innocent life was lost because she failed to be a parent that day. She'll receive the punishment of having to live with her actions for the rest of her life, and heaven forbid she has any more children.

Heaven forbid she has any more children!, if a woman has an abortion do you then say the same thing.

It's a tragic accident, any parent that has lost a child knows another child can't replace the one they lost.

user104658 · 28-07-2018, 03:32 PM

All I can say is, anyone who "doesn't believe in this" or thinks that "something like this could never happen to them"... You don't understand this element of human cognition or the potential effects of stress and distraction on memory. It could happen to anyone. Including you. If you're sure it couldn't, you are simply wrong, and most of the people this has happened to would have said exactly the same thing before it happened.

Also; it happens a LOT more than we generally hear about because it usually isn't fatal. The parent will spontaneously remember, or they'll notice just as they get out of the car / turn to get a bag etc from the back seat, or it'll be a short time away from the car, or a temperate day. Also several cases where other people have noticed and raised the alarm / smashed a window / called the police. In all of these cases the child isn't harmed, so we don't hear about it. For every horrible case like this that hits the news, there are a dozen others that have ended, thankfully, without a death.

So yeah... It's not uncommon, at all. To the extent that I personally think new cars should have safety features implemented to ensure that it can't happen. I think aftermarket solutions do exist already, but they should be "as standard" in my opinion, and a legal requirement like seat belts / carseats.

Cherie · 28-07-2018, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

All I can say is, anyone who "doesn't believe in this" or thinks that "something like this could never happen to them"... You don't understand this element of human cognition or the potential effects of stress and distraction on memory. It could happen to anyone. Including you. If you're sure it couldn't, you are simply wrong, and most of the people this has happened to would have said exactly the same thing before it happened.

Also; it happens a LOT more than we generally hear about because it usually isn't fatal. The parent will spontaneously remember, or they'll notice just as they get out of the car / turn to get a bag etc from the back seat, or it'll be a short time away from the car, or a temperate day. Also several cases where other people have noticed and raised the alarm / smashed a window / called the police. In all of these cases the child isn't harmed, so we don't hear about it. For every horrible case like this that hits the news, there are a dozen others that have ended, thankfully, without a death.

So yeah... It's not uncommon, at all. To the extent that I personally think new cars should have safety features implemented to ensure that it can't happen. I think aftermarket solutions do exist already, but they should be "as standard" in my opinion, and a legal requirement like seat belts / carseats.

Just because it can happen and does happen doesn’t mean it should just be put down to stress or distraction, cot deaths are investigated or indeed any unexplained fatality so as distressing as it is so should cases like this

Ashley. · 28-07-2018, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Heaven forbid she has any more children!, if a woman has an abortion do you then say the same thing.

It's a tragic accident, any parent that has lost a child knows another child can't replace the one they lost.

I never said it wasn't an accident, in fact in my post I specifically said she didn't do it on purpose. But if a child you only had three months ago can slip your mind for an entire day, you're not ready for motherhood... in my opinion.

Marsh. · 28-07-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

I never said it wasn't an accident, in fact in my post I specifically said she didn't do it on purpose. But if a child you only had three months ago can slip your mind for an entire day, you're not ready for motherhood... in my opinion.

But the baby itself didn't slip her mind, unless I've missed the part where she forgot giving birth.

She forgot the child hadn't been dropped off at his day care.

JerseyWins · 28-07-2018, 03:50 PM

Absolutely tragic... things slip people's minds but THAT? Poor baby RIP </3

The article says mom & ex-girlfriend... so they were already split / never married which sounds a bit sketchy to me that this would then happen. Or did he dump her ass after this and that's why it says ex?

Anyway I also feel extremely bad for the dad and even the mom a bit because what an awful regret to live with for the rest of your life.

Beso · 28-07-2018, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

"guessing"

Ok.

It also doesn't hold up as if she intentionally left the baby assuming they would be fine in the car then surely she'd have been out more regularly to feed and change the child as Kazanne said.

Maybe she forgot when she was supposed to go out

user104658 · 28-07-2018, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Just because it can happen and does happen doesn’t mean it should just be put down to stress or distraction, cot deaths are investigated or indeed any unexplained fatality so as distressing as it is so should cases like this

I'm not saying the circumstances shouldn't be looked at but - as with cot death - it should be assumed that it was a tragic mistake / accident UNTIL there is any indication that it wasn't. It's already a traumatic enough event for any family without baseless murder accusations flying around online.

Mystic Mock · 28-07-2018, 06:47 PM

RIP to Aiden.

Condolences to the family.

And the death will definitely need to be investigated just in case it is more sinister.

hijaxers · 28-07-2018, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

This 'act' is absolutely enraging and the cries of mitigation from some even more so.

NO ONE forgets about a tiny 3 months old baby for an ENTIRE day even if it is left in another room at home, let alone in a car on its own on a scorching hot Summer's day and ESPECIALLY not its ****ing mother.

My grandchildren come into my thoughts regularly throughout the day and I am a man and not their mother.

The full horror of this innocent tiny baby's death in that stifling heat inside that car is punctuated by the 'mothers' reaction upon coming back to the car and opening the door:

"She came out to the car, and she says she opened the car door and was like, "what is that smell" and she noticed that Aiden was still in the back seat.'.

****ing sickening and like others on here, I do not buy the "I forgot" Bullshot at all.

I wish that I had not read this.

Same Kirk - where the hell did she think her child was ? being cared for by fairies. I just don't believe her story.

hijaxers · 28-07-2018, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

They say elephants never forget, it's clear humans do forget, I forgot about picking my daughter up from school do to concentrating so much on work.

When humans have to many things on their mind they make mistakes.

School really is not the same as being left in a boiling car there was someone there to care for your child and contact you.

Marsh. · 28-07-2018, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers

School really is not the same as being left in a boiling car there was someone there to care for your child and contact you.

That's not the point though. The point is he forgot about his child, the comparison being made. He was just lucky he forgot when his child wasn't in a life threatening situation. This woman wasn't so lucky.

No similarity was being made between a car and a school.

hijaxers · 28-07-2018, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's not the point though. The point is he forgot about his child, the comparison being made. He was just lucky he forgot when his child wasn't in a life threatening situation. This woman wasn't so lucky.

No similarity was being made between a car and a school.

Ok i get that but obviously her work was more on her mind than her baby ?

user104658 · 28-07-2018, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers

Ok i get that but obviously her work was more on her mind than her baby ?

Yes. Well, sort of. People become "work zombies" (go through days / weeks on "autopilot mode") but that in itself is not her fault; just another really sad part of the story and of our entire society. A hell of a lot of people have their mental resources monopolised by work, bills and stress... And it's rarely (if ever) by choice.

Crimson Dynamo · 28-07-2018, 07:52 PM

I expect the lady (an ex and the child was 3 months?) was on opiates/painkillers

Marsh. · 28-07-2018, 09:52 PM

Yes, them single mothers and their drug addictions.

user104658 · 28-07-2018, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, them single mothers and their drug addictions.

Especially common amongst those who drive and work in medical centres, I hear.

(Im not saying that doesn't happen before someone starts banging on about pill pinchers; I'm just pointing out how ludicrous it is to now start painting this woman as a junkie, as well as a child abuser / murderer)