[Denver]

I don't buy anyone who said they never forgot their kids even for 2 mins it's happens but doesn't make them an evil person

[Tom4784]

As ever, it's easy to judge, harder to try to understand.

This happens often and to good parents too. I think anyone who has kids should know how emotionally and physically draining it can be and how easy it can be to make a mistake like this, I've known parents to forget to pick up their children from school. At work recently there was a parent who literally left the store before realising she left her child behind. Parents make mistakes and accidents happen.

it's just unfortunate that the circumstances of this mistake proved deadly.

It seems quite sadistic to call for her head, punishment for the sake of punishment is pointless and she will likely carry this to her grave. No need to punish her when she's capable and already doing so herself.

[Livia]

Well anyone wishing to murder their child - and if a child is going to be murdered it's most likely to be by the parents, all they have to do is say they left the child in the car and forgot. Everyone's heart will break for them.

[Cherie]

Honestly you would think that a parent never killed their child ever! The baby was 3 months, so can't have been in nursery very long, the least you would do is ring up in your lunchbreak to see how the baby is doing, my sister and her hubby run a kennels and dogs can be left for the day, and people ring up to see how they are doing. It may have been a tragedy but it still needs to be investigated also it looks like she was estranged from the father so there may be a revenge element if he took up with someone else....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Honestly you would think that a parent never killed their child ever! The baby was 3 months, so can't have been in nursery very long, the least you would do is ring up in your lunchbreak to see how the baby is doing, my sister and her hubby run a kennels and dogs can be left for the day, and people ring up to see how they are doing. It may have been a tragedy but it still needs to be investigated also it looks like she was estranged from the father so there may be a revenge element if he took up with someone else....

This was my thinking ,she was his ex.

[Ashley.]

The most important responsibility as a parent is putting your child's needs above your own. Of course she didn't leave him in the car on purpose, but an innocent life was lost because she failed to be a parent that day. She'll receive the punishment of having to live with her actions for the rest of her life, and heaven forbid she has any more children.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

The most important responsibility as a parent is putting your child's needs above your own. Of course she didn't leave him in the car on purpose, but an innocent life was lost because she failed to be a parent that day. She'll receive the punishment of having to live with her actions for the rest of her life, and heaven forbid she has any more children.

Heaven forbid she has any more children!, if a woman has an abortion do you then say the same thing.

It's a tragic accident, any parent that has lost a child knows another child can't replace the one they lost.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Heaven forbid she has any more children!, if a woman has an abortion do you then say the same thing.

It's a tragic accident, any parent that has lost a child knows another child can't replace the one they lost.

I never said it wasn't an accident, in fact in my post I specifically said she didn't do it on purpose. But if a child you only had three months ago can slip your mind for an entire day, you're not ready for motherhood... in my opinion.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I never said it wasn't an accident, in fact in my post I specifically said she didn't do it on purpose. But if a child you only had three months ago can slip your mind for an entire day, you're not ready for motherhood... in my opinion.

But the baby itself didn't slip her mind, unless I've missed the part where she forgot giving birth.

She forgot the child hadn't been dropped off at his day care.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But the baby itself didn't slip her mind, unless I've missed the part where she forgot giving birth.

She forgot the child hadn't been dropped off at his day care.

And that is what puzzles me. Surely that's quite a significant part of the day. It puzzles me how she couldn't remember not stopping at the daycare centre, not taking her child out of the car, not registering him or speaking to the staff. I don't feel like that sort of thing would slip the mind of someone who is in the right frame of mind to be a mother... that's just how I feel.

[thesheriff443]

They say elephants never forget, it's clear humans do forget, I forgot about picking my daughter up from school do to concentrating so much on work.

When humans have to many things on their mind they make mistakes.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

They say elephants never forget, it's clear humans do forget, I forgot about picking my daughter up from school do to concentrating so much on work.

When humans have to many things on their mind they make mistakes.

School really is not the same as being left in a boiling car there was someone there to care for your child and contact you.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

School really is not the same as being left in a boiling car there was someone there to care for your child and contact you.

That's not the point though. The point is he forgot about his child, the comparison being made. He was just lucky he forgot when his child wasn't in a life threatening situation. This woman wasn't so lucky.

No similarity was being made between a car and a school.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's not the point though. The point is he forgot about his child, the comparison being made. He was just lucky he forgot when his child wasn't in a life threatening situation. This woman wasn't so lucky.

No similarity was being made between a car and a school.

Ok i get that but obviously her work was more on her mind than her baby ?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Ok i get that but obviously her work was more on her mind than her baby ?

Yes. Well, sort of. People become "work zombies" (go through days / weeks on "autopilot mode") but that in itself is not her fault; just another really sad part of the story and of our entire society. A hell of a lot of people have their mental resources monopolised by work, bills and stress... And it's rarely (if ever) by choice.

[user104658]

All I can say is, anyone who "doesn't believe in this" or thinks that "something like this could never happen to them"... You don't understand this element of human cognition or the potential effects of stress and distraction on memory. It could happen to anyone. Including you. If you're sure it couldn't, you are simply wrong, and most of the people this has happened to would have said exactly the same thing before it happened.

Also; it happens a LOT more than we generally hear about because it usually isn't fatal. The parent will spontaneously remember, or they'll notice just as they get out of the car / turn to get a bag etc from the back seat, or it'll be a short time away from the car, or a temperate day. Also several cases where other people have noticed and raised the alarm / smashed a window / called the police. In all of these cases the child isn't harmed, so we don't hear about it. For every horrible case like this that hits the news, there are a dozen others that have ended, thankfully, without a death.

So yeah... It's not uncommon, at all. To the extent that I personally think new cars should have safety features implemented to ensure that it can't happen. I think aftermarket solutions do exist already, but they should be "as standard" in my opinion, and a legal requirement like seat belts / carseats.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

All I can say is, anyone who "doesn't believe in this" or thinks that "something like this could never happen to them"... You don't understand this element of human cognition or the potential effects of stress and distraction on memory. It could happen to anyone. Including you. If you're sure it couldn't, you are simply wrong, and most of the people this has happened to would have said exactly the same thing before it happened.

Also; it happens a LOT more than we generally hear about because it usually isn't fatal. The parent will spontaneously remember, or they'll notice just as they get out of the car / turn to get a bag etc from the back seat, or it'll be a short time away from the car, or a temperate day. Also several cases where other people have noticed and raised the alarm / smashed a window / called the police. In all of these cases the child isn't harmed, so we don't hear about it. For every horrible case like this that hits the news, there are a dozen others that have ended, thankfully, without a death.

So yeah... It's not uncommon, at all. To the extent that I personally think new cars should have safety features implemented to ensure that it can't happen. I think aftermarket solutions do exist already, but they should be "as standard" in my opinion, and a legal requirement like seat belts / carseats.

Just because it can happen and does happen doesn’t mean it should just be put down to stress or distraction, cot deaths are investigated or indeed any unexplained fatality so as distressing as it is so should cases like this

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Just because it can happen and does happen doesn’t mean it should just be put down to stress or distraction, cot deaths are investigated or indeed any unexplained fatality so as distressing as it is so should cases like this

I'm not saying the circumstances shouldn't be looked at but - as with cot death - it should be assumed that it was a tragic mistake / accident UNTIL there is any indication that it wasn't. It's already a traumatic enough event for any family without baseless murder accusations flying around online.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

All I can say is, anyone who "doesn't believe in this" or thinks that "something like this could never happen to them"... You don't understand this element of human cognition or the potential effects of stress and distraction on memory. It could happen to anyone. Including you. If you're sure it couldn't, you are simply wrong, and most of the people this has happened to would have said exactly the same thing before it happened.

Also; it happens a LOT more than we generally hear about because it usually isn't fatal. The parent will spontaneously remember, or they'll notice just as they get out of the car / turn to get a bag etc from the back seat, or it'll be a short time away from the car, or a temperate day. Also several cases where other people have noticed and raised the alarm / smashed a window / called the police. In all of these cases the child isn't harmed, so we don't hear about it. For every horrible case like this that hits the news, there are a dozen others that have ended, thankfully, without a death.

So yeah... It's not uncommon, at all. To the extent that I personally think new cars should have safety features implemented to ensure that it can't happen. I think aftermarket solutions do exist already, but they should be "as standard" in my opinion, and a legal requirement like seat belts / carseats.

Definitely agree with this, and surely it wouldn't be that had to do either..

I hate stories like this as my immediate thought is to call for the parents head, not going to lie. But of course its something tht can just happen. At the same time there IS the element of it could be on purpose and it would be an 'easy' way to get away with murdering a child...I am sure there was a story like this where the father did do it on purpose.

Either way, horrendous story and RIP to the little one

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I hate stories like this as my immediate thought is to call for the parents head

yes one comes to mind doesent it

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes one comes to mind doesent it

Yes, but that one was quite different. That was parents intentionally leaving their children to go get pissed. If it turns out this parent left their child on purpose and the child died, then I will have as much anger for her as those ones. Just those ones admitted that they left their kids on purpose

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes one comes to mind doesent it

The key word there would be "immediate" LT - if more information about this case comes out the opinions will change. Its a bit different to a case where information has been widely available for a decade.

[JerseyWins]

Absolutely tragic... things slip people's minds but THAT? Poor baby RIP </3

The article says mom & ex-girlfriend... so they were already split / never married which sounds a bit sketchy to me that this would then happen. Or did he dump her ass after this and that's why it says ex?

Anyway I also feel extremely bad for the dad and even the mom a bit because what an awful regret to live with for the rest of your life.

[Mystic Mock]

RIP to Aiden.

Condolences to the family.

And the death will definitely need to be investigated just in case it is more sinister.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I expect the lady (an ex and the child was 3 months?) was on opiates/painkillers