First Watch/Re-Watch Survivor Thread

[Macie Lightfoot]

"Before I came into this game I said 'I wish I was a man' because men in this game seem to be able to get two young girls to follow them to the end, and that's something I can't do, but when I met Coach I saw him as the equivalent of a young girl."

:love::love::love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Brandon: Just a really quick question, did you know I was going home?
Albert: Let me tell you right now-
Brandon: Did you know I was going home?
Albert: I'm gonna tell you right now-
Brandon: Did you know I was going home? Yes or no?
Albert: This is the answer to that question-
Brandon: Yes or no?
Albert: I was told-
Brandon: YES OR NO?!?!?! There's no explanation.
Albert: Okay.
Brandon: Did you know I was going home?
Albert: Brandon-
Brandon: YES OR NO or I'll move on and then you screw yourself.
Albert: I did not know that you were going home-
Brandon: Okay that's it, that's all I need to know. You lie.
Albert: Can I just tell you one thing? Brandon can I just-
Brandon: Thank you guys.

and then IMMEDIATELY afterwards...

Whitney: Congrtutlations. Um.... Albert. You were sleazy. A little sleazy :\

[Macie Lightfoot]

Sophie: Can I just clear something up about the Idol too? The Idol was actually not found the way that Upolu thought it was found. Albert found the clue with the help of Coach and I distracting the team. Coach then found the Idol and we originally thought we'd keep it for the three of us, and then it got to the point where Brandon was hunting like anything for an Idol that wasn't there anymore, and so we staged a discovery of the Idol. :shrug:
Brandon: O_O :facepalm:

Cochran didn't even need to ask his question at that point, Sophie just sealed the deal right there.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Jeff highlighting the Coach/Ozzy, Cochran, and Brandon/Russell segments in his post-vote reveal pre-reunion spiel and then literally going "Oh, and Sophie won a million bucks! :o" really just sums up modern day Survivor.

[JerseyWins]

"Before I came into this game I said 'I wish I was a man' because men in this game seem to be able to get two young girls to follow them to the end, and that's something I can't do, but when I met Coach I saw him as the equivalent of a young girl."

:love::love::love:
That's actually pretty funny :joker:

Brandon: Just a really quick question, did you know I was going home?
Albert: Let me tell you right now-
Brandon: Did you know I was going home?
Albert: I'm gonna tell you right now-
Brandon: Did you know I was going home? Yes or no?
Albert: This is the answer to that question-
Brandon: Yes or no?
Albert: I was told-
Brandon: YES OR NO?!?!?! There's no explanation.
Albert: Okay.
Brandon: Did you know I was going home?
Albert: Brandon-
Brandon: YES OR NO or I'll move on and then you screw yourself.
Albert: I did not know that you were going home-
Brandon: Okay that's it, that's all I need to know. You lie.
Albert: Can I just tell you one thing? Brandon can I just-
Brandon: Thank you guys.

and then IMMEDIATELY afterwards...

Whitney: Congrtutlations. Um.... Albert. You were sleazy. A little sleazy :\
:laugh3:

[JerseyWins]

Nooooooooooo @ Robb going. Figured it was coming up though and there was no chance he was staying by the end of the episode.

For whatever reason I was actually assuming Robb would be more villainous, maybe even do/say things that could be viewed offensively because of his big mouth :joker: but he's actually been a pretty great guy and it really shined through this episode. :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

Shii Ann got super robbed. A fake merge? Wtf was that?

[Macie Lightfoot]

"I changed the game to a level... that you cannot even comprehend!!!!!!" wow I did not miss Russell Hantz at all, can't wait to rewatch RI next!!!!!!! :)

(honestly though, so far aside from this Hantz bull****, this reunion isn't terrible? It's not good but not remarkably so. I imagine that anything seems positive when you think about the abomination that was the RI reunion)

[Macie Lightfoot]

Pregnant Edna :love: Jeff being in disbelief that Christine and Stacey are still super close friends :rolleyes:

Fun season! IDK, SoPa gets a lot of **** because it was from an admittedly bad era of Survivor and is sandwiched between two godawful seasons, but I think for all the flaws it has it still has a lot going for it!

Sophie
Edna
Stacey
Christine
Prince Albert
Cochran (most pleasant surprise for me!)
Semhar
Dawn
Brandon (uncomfortably fascinating sums him up best)
Papa Bear
Whitney
Coach (he is suuuuuuuch a scumbag this time around but he was essential)
Rick
Keith
Ozzy (again, for such a prominent character in Survivor lore I really have no opinion of him)
Mikayla
Elyse
Jim

[LemonJam]

you're rewatching RI? oh God good luck :eek:

[JerseyWins]

At least he got warmed up with the worst redemption island season............................................ ..................................x

Pre-Stealth R Us Phillip :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

At least he got warmed up with the worst redemption island season............................................ ..................................x

Pre-Stealth R Us Phillip :joker:

hun all south pacific did was warm me up to drag u and ur opinions through the mud...........x

[VanessaFeltz.]

Pregnant Edna :love: Jeff being in disbelief that Christine and Stacey are still super close friends :rolleyes:

Fun season! IDK, SoPa gets a lot of **** because it was from an admittedly bad era of Survivor and is sandwiched between two godawful seasons, but I think for all the flaws it has it still has a lot going for it!

Sophie
Edna
Stacey
Christine
Prince Albert
Cochran (most pleasant surprise for me!)
Semhar
Dawn
Brandon (uncomfortably fascinating sums him up best)
Papa Bear
Whitney
Coach (he is suuuuuuuch a scumbag this time around but he was essential)
Rick
Keith
Ozzy (again, for such a prominent character in Survivor lore I really have no opinion of him)
Mikayla
Elyse
Jim

Christine is too low

[Braden]

Edna feeling excluded from the tribe <\3

Light the fire under your arse, babe.

[Braden]

So I've just finished watching Edna and Brandon's boot episodes. Both were great for completely different reasons.

I'm glad Edna's was completely centred around her, and how she was emotionally and strategically reacting to everything. I'm glad I saw more of Edna's personality because I wasn't completely sold by the hype, but I really enjoyed her throughout her last episode. She's completely different from how I remembered her years and years ago when I watched the first couple of episodes of SoPa :p

Upolu turning on each other is so good to watch, but the constant God references are quite tedious. I don't want God to be the 21st survivor player of the season - I get that it's necessary because religion is a component for why some people make the decisions they do this season, but it's a bit much if you get what I mean. Brandon giving Albert the necklace was great though, and I'm glad Sophie survived.

[Braden]

Watching the finale now.

Sophie screaming at Albert for not giving up to help her :joker:

[Braden]

Sophie's breakdown during tribal & the fact she won last immunity :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I never posted my edgic (not putting it in spoilers tags bc edgic =/=spoilers ffs) chart so here it is!

http://i.imgur.com/FOZM9v4.png

[Braden]

Okay, so I've finished South Pacific.

It was definitely enjoyable, but it was missing that kick that would've made it a great season. It was also hard to find someone to root for, since nobody on Savaii was particularly likable except from Papa Bear and Dawn. Semhar and Cochran were good characters, but the former was obviously not there long enough and I'm still not sure what my thoughts are in general to the latter. The characters I enjoyed from Upolu either went early, or only recieved worthy content towards the very end.

I think Redemption Island is just such a ****ty concept that ruins the flow of the season. Although it does provide amusing moments (and I think this season out of the three is the best it was utilised), it just has too much of an effect on a game that is fine by itself.

I'm glad Sophie won. Her victory reminds me of Michele's, in the fact that her edit towards the end is a realisation that she truely deserves to win. Though their edits to begin with seem like unfair portrayals based on producers being bitter that their ideals weren't acted out the they would have liked. Was Sophie an expected winner at the time, by the way?

Moreover, I think her finale episode was such an entertaining part of Survivor in that it was a raw depiction of a human being playing Survivor and letting the show itself expose true character traits and providing a learning experience, as oppose to coming on the show desperately attempting to assert yourself as a character that causes their journey to come across disingenuous.

I definitely have mild appreciation for South Pacific, but it's quite basic in comparison to other seasons that are very good, or very bad.

Cast Ranking:

Sophie
Christine
Stacey
Edna
Dawn
Papa Bear
Cochran
Semhar
Coach
Brandon
Albert
Ozzy
Rick
Mikayla
Elyse
Whitney
Keith
Jim

Season Ranking:


Heroes vs. Villains
Pearl Islands
Micronesia
Borneo
Amazon
Vanuatu
China
Panama
Kaoh Rong *
Cagayan
Marquesas
Africa
Millennials vs. Gen X
San Juan Del Sur
Gabon
Palau
Nicaragua
Outback
Worlds Apart
All-Stars
Tocantins
South Pacific
Guatemala
Fiji
Blood vs. Water
Cambodia *
Samoa
Cook Islands
Thailand
Redemption Island

* denotes a season I have not watched in its entirety

[Macie Lightfoot]

Was Sophie an expected winner at the time, by the way?

In terms of ~edgic~ predicting her win? Not so much. Since the season immediately followed RI where Rob had an unprecedented high-vis coronation edit, many people put their eggs in Coach's basket early on and stayed there. Some people were even convinced Ozzy would come back from RI and win, and I guess he came close enough that the idea isn't all that far-fetched. Sophie had a few people who early on were believers in her win because she was always given some insight into the dynamics of her alliance, she was shielded from all the negativity of the Upolu religious complex, and she was the consistent "voice of reason" who first pointed out that Brandon is certifiable and Albert thinks he's sooooo much smarter than he really is and that Coach is a nauseating hypocrite.

I think the recap episode was when more people started to open up to the idea of Sophie winning -- that's when I finally realized that she was probably the winner. However, official edgic put all their eggs in Coach's basket despite the edit showing soooo many reasons as to why he lost, and they laughed at Sophie supporters because they're actually terrible at edgic and gave her constant MOR2s for like 12 episodes straight.

You're definitely right in noticing some observations between Sophie and Michele, and the hype leading up to their victories is pretty similar. Michele had significantly more people believing that she could win than Sophie did, but mainly people were fooled largely because they are incapable of picking a winner who has a low-vis, more nuanced edit. It's not that the show didn't explain why Sophie and Michele won, it's just that it was easy to miss if you weren't looking for it.

[Braden]

That's definitely clarified. Thank you :p

I understand why people would think Coach or Ozzy would win, moreso Coach. However, like you said, Rob's edit the season before as a winning returnee would suggest against that prediction. I definitely get that as a counter-argument.

I dread to think what Sophie's edit would have been like had she not won :p

[Braden]

Watching episode 2 of One World.

Watching them compete in a reward challenge without Jeff is trippy as **** :p

[Macie Lightfoot]

Not even five minutes into the RI premiere and Stephanie has already creeped me the **** out with her confessional about how SHE'S GONNA STARE RUSSELL DOWN TO SHOW THAT SHE HAS SOME EVIL IN HER, BECAUSE IF SHE'S NOT THE ONE WHO HE PICKS TO TAKE TO THE END THEN SHE IS *DONE*

I feel like I need to shower already.

[Macie Lightfoot]

and now Stephanie just compared Russell approaching her to talk with a prom date feeling... this is so ****ing creepy I can't deal with it.

[JerseyWins]

Stephanie is pretty damn funny... :joker:

[reece(:]

Stephanie <3

[Macie Lightfoot]

Stephanie having fans is perplexing yet predictable. Painfully desperate for airtime and attention, not to mention that she was genuinely excited to get a chance to work with ~THE~ Russell Hantz. But she's a young chick so people are going to slap empty, meaningless adjectives to her such as FIERCE and MESSY and QUEEN.

Other premiere thoughts... idk it was pretty bad lol, which is frightening since I remember the premiere being one of the better episodes of the season! Francesca/Kristina were a fun duo, Zapatera had no airtime, Rob's Ometepe zombies had no airtime, and Rob's already starting his obnoxiously boring "play like a bully" campaign with DEMANDING that Kristina gives him the idol if she wants to stay.

[Braden]

Sabrina is by far my favourite of One World so far (just finishing up episode 3).

I'm also liking The Monica Culpepper, but she's not being shown as much at this point.

[EspeonBB]

Redemption Island X_X

The only people I remember liking were Francesca and Ashley (and I didn't even like them that much). I still think they assembled that horrid cast just so Boston Rob could finally win

[Braden]

Tarzan raising his hand and asking Jeff if he could read out the last two votes, even though he'd already dismissed them :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ralph thwarting Russell's plans to find the idol by accidentally finding it in a tree :joker: :love: for someone who seems so bad on paper, Ralph's harmless and a force of good so far.

[Macie Lightfoot]

jesus christ, Rob's utter disgusts with Matt's DESPICABLE actions of...... good sportsmanship and congratulating Zapatera... what a killjoy. I'll never understand the Boston Rob Hysteria, he's just a boring gamebot who isn't particularly fun and not nearly as engaging as legend dictates.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ralph harassing Russell around the beach asking if he took a clue from the fishing gear reward :love: could do without the Russell confessional about how CLEARLY HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME IF HE JUST CONFRONTED *ME*, RUSSELL HANTZ!!!!!!!! but lmfao thankfully Russell and his infected armpits are gonna get humiliatingly BOUNCED soon.

[Braden]

I'm in awe of Colton convincing the guys to give up their immunity to go tribal.

Lmfao at Jeff's reaction.

[Macie Lightfoot]

The throwaway segment about Russell's infected armpits is sooooooo cruel but I don't care bc it's Russell

[Macie Lightfoot]

I love that Russell was bounced so early and in such a humiliating fashion, but I hate how from this point on the show takes on a narrative that "Zapatera falls apart because they got rid of Russell! They made a *TERRIBLE* move to throw that challenge!!!!" when it was merely coincidental. I don't see how those two things are related at all -- I don't think throwing a challenge to get rid of Russell was absolutely imperative, but in general Ometepe is a much more fit tribe that would perform better in Challenges on paper, and it's not like Russell was a powerhouse that carried Zapatera to victory in the first two episodes.

It's also especially hypocritical on Jeff's end since Boston Rob is always chomping at the bit to get rid of an competitive male threat ASAP? It was Hunter in Marquesas, Rob Cesternino in All-Stars, it was almost Russell in Heroes vs. Villains, and then it was Matt this season. IDK, this seems like one of ~The BR Rules~ yet Zapatera gets criticized for it.

[reece(:]

Probst was fuming cos he wanted to see Rob and Russell go head to head at the merge (aka his wet dream).

[Macie Lightfoot]

Also, forgot to mention that Stephanie's blind devotion and loyalty to Russell makes my skin crawl. Her yelling obscenities and aggressively rolling her eyes at every [fair] criticism towards Russell at TC was Not A Good Look

[EspeonBB]

Stephanie was a tad desperate to be the new Parvati

[JerseyWins]

Finally trying to get through some more episodes from Thailand but this season is dull tbh.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Gonna try to watch some more RI garbage today. I think the biggest indication that this is definitely the worst season ever is that there's no characterization whatsoever? We're four episodes in and the only people who I feel like we know as people are Rob, Stephanie, and Phillip. And I hate them all! IDK, I can't think about it too much bc it'll just depress me, I know we're not going to get to know anyone else from Ometepe other than kinda Andrea and Matt, and Zapatera never break from their middle of the road selves, that's just the way it is.

Oh, and then there's Ralph. I kinda feel like we know him, or at least as much as we can get to know someone who is entirely unintelligible. And he's actually likable and a force for good so that's nice. Sadly, I think this best days are behind him and he's gonna blend into that Zapatera MOR vortex.

[Braden]

I didn't mind Stephanie throughout Redemption Island. I wasn't a big fan, but I don't think she did anything wrong to warrant hate. I know she was fond of working with Russell, but I don't think that's enough to justify dislike. I can't remember much about RI though, and I'd completely forgot all the stuff that Macie has already mentioned :p

Ralph was fine too, but it was annoying that he crawled up Phillip's arsehole during the finale.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think even independent of The Hantz Thing, Stephanie's still wayyyyy too unpleasant for me and not in a fun way. Like, you just kinda get the vibe that she's trying way too hard to be a bitch and become A Big Name and she's just so impressed with herself. "THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST. BLINDSIDE. EVER!!!!!!!" like no, it's not going to be. "I'M TOTALLY FREAKING OUT OVER HERE!!!!!" with the subtlety of a sledgehammer, sure. I don't know, I get that Redemption Island is a season completely devoid of characters and entertainment and people are going to cling to anything with a pulse, but Stephanie was just a simple bitch. She wasn't witty or entertaining or funny or clever -- she was just trying to imitate a certain Survivor archetype and did a poor job at it. I also feel similarly about Lindsey Cascaddan, who plenty of people LOVE but I think she's kind of a basic scumbag :3

Also, Grant finding the clue to the HII and Rob saying "hand it to me," only for Grant to willingly comply without any protest is so depressing, but it really captures Ometepe in a nutshell.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Let me paraphrase this glorious exchange from TC

Krista: After Russell was voted out nobody's been playing the game :rolleyes: it's just the Brady Bunch gone camping. I'm not here to sit around a campfire and make friends, I'm here to play the game!
Mike: You really haven't played the game though because you haven't reached out to anyone and developed any trust. You've been abrasive to everyone this entire time, that was your strategy.
Krista: What am I supposed to say?????
Mike: How about you go and talk to someone and form a bond???
Krista: ......... *seethes*

[Braden]

So I'm on episode 5 of One World, and the only times Leif's dwarfism has even been referred to is:

a) Colton calling him a munchkin/Oompa Loompa
and now,
b) Jeff saying "there's a little height disparity down this end" in reference to battling Michael during the challenge

I don't know whether to laugh or find it offensive, lmao.

[Braden]

I know Colton is pretty much universally hated within the Survivor community, but outside of his irrational hatred towards Bill, I can't help but find him entertaining and quite funny.

Tarzan is also becoming my favourite of the season.

"Remind me who Monica is again?"

Colton (re Tarzan): "Tarzan is that 90-year-old grandpa who has alzheimer's, which you keep having to repeat things over and over to again."

"Just think, Monica Lewinsky." :joker:

[reece(:]

Not Lindsey C a basic scumbag with her inspirational instagram posts

[Braden]

Tarzan forgetting Jonas' name despite living with him for 15 days :joker:

[Braden]

Idk what I was expecting (or what I'm still expecting) that makes One World such a bad season, but I'm genuinely enjoying it so far.

[Braden]

Monica being voted out early is a bit **** :(

Though, that's put right with her appearance on B vs. W.

[reece(:]

Idk what I was expecting (or what I'm still expecting) that makes One World such a bad season, but I'm genuinely enjoying it so far.
I loved One World, and feel like one of the few that do. It's so messy/entertaining

[Braden]

I loved One World, and feel like one of the few that do. It's so messy/entertaining

I'm glad I'm not the only one then :p

[reece(:]

And Tarzan is brilliant... what's even more funny is the fact he might have been acting it all.

[Braden]

And Tarzan is brilliant... what's even more funny is the fact he might have been acting it all.

No way! I want it to be real :p

[Macie Lightfoot]

The thing about One World is that you're gonna forget all about it as soon as you're done. Like, who is Michael? Jonas? Jay? Nina? I just found the whole thing to be dull and lifeless, with an extremely bland cast to boot.

[reece(:]

Nina was great :nono:

[reece(:]

No way! I want it to be real :p
It's been said :joker: who knows!

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmfao ****ing Andrea saying that HER WHOLE, LIKE, IMAGE OF MATT CHANGED WHEN KRISTA GAVE HIM HER BIBLE give me a break. She's another one of those ~prolific returnees~ who I really have no substantial opinion on so maybe I'll form one in time for Game Changers. Or maybe I won't, who knows? Poor Matt though, people like Rob and Andrea keep projecting all this untrustworthy **** onto him when he's just someone who is really really religious.

[Braden]

Words by Jeff Probst himself:

"Alicia, pathetic." :joker:

[Braden]

I take back any positive things I said about Colton :umm2:

[Braden]

One thing about Colton's "medevac" - I remember Jeff saying that it was considered a quit during BvW because he was dubbed a 'two-time quitter', but what were the exact reasons Jeff had for changing his mind about his medevac.

Dr. Ramona literally said they had to take him to hospital for tests?

[reece(:]

I take back any positive things I said about Colton :umm2:
The bullying of Xtina </3

[JerseyWins]

I looked back at my R.I. ranking which I still about 100% agree with and won't bother bringing it up but then.... I decided to look back at my thoughts on South Pacific from right after I watched it and I'm actually kinda surprised at first but then afterwards not so much.

This season was pretty damn awful. It got interesting right at the merge and that's literally it. Not many people in the cast that I liked either. And Sophie winning is super disappointing as well. She was semi-ok for a while but became the worst by the end, and she wins SMH.

Cast ranking:

---(faves)---
1. Ozzy (renewed himself as being a top Survivor favorite of mine)
2. Semhar (first boot legend :love: there was no one else I really liked enough to be #2)
3. Brandon (lmao... his antics were one of the few highlights this season)
---(liked)---
4. Albert (didn't care for him for most of the game lol yet he's #4 for a pretty good second half)
5. Cochran (pretty likable, not that he was bad on Caramoan, but I much preferred him this time.. not even mad he flipped because aside from Ozzy that tribe sucked anyway)
---(ok)---
6. Mikayla (I'm struggling here to rank people)
7. Elyse (^)
8. Mark (had a few little funny moments and I liked his general attitude... good enough for me to give you some credit on this cast)
9. Coach (he's gotten slightly more rootable with each season but he's mostly even this high because I didn't care for anyone else at all)
---(meh)---
10. Christine (the fire under her was pretty rootable at R.I., she had a few moments even before that I guess)
11. Rick (not lower because he never really annoyed me... but he was basically never really there to have that opportunity)
12. Dawn (nowhere near as annoying as in Caramoan but still just so meh)
13. Whitney (kind of like an entitled, non-endearing, & bland version of Natalie from Samoa... doesn't mean she's awful, a poor version of Natalie is still somewhat decent to me lol)
14. Jim (abrasive personality that was never really funny or likable, had maybe 1 or 2 quality moments but mostly annoying)
15. Stacey (^ but her little rant over "Benjamin" at the R.I. battle was kinda funny and worth noting)
---(disliked)---
16. Edna (painfully boring and like... boring)
17. Keith (douche with zero personality or charisma.. even as an ally of Ozzy I just still couldn't support him whatsoever, part of why I didn't mind Cochran flipping lol)
18. Sophie (brat was a very good way to describe her so I'll leave it at that)

At least I now have this season out of the way. On to the next one.
Like at first glance, WTF @ me ranking Coach #9. I might lower him a bit now BUT then after I think about it I guess Coach in SoPa was my favorite Coach incarnation (I won't go into detail because I still don't think he's good by any means)... However, the SoPa cast as a whole was just so garbage and that's the main thing here. It was so hard to find people to like in South Pacific. I'd lower Jim a few more spots and maybe higher Stacey a spot or two but aside from that I still agree with the rest of this cast ranking. But regardless of how I do the ranking, the people on this cast are mostly just a big blur of meh or annoying people. I said Whitney was entitled and in a non-endearing way, which yes she was, but yet I still gave her some credit within this cast. :nono: :joker:

Literally #11-18 are so bad that I have a hard time ranking them in hindsight as well.

"11. Rick (not lower because he never really annoyed me... but he was basically never really there to have that opportunity)"

Actually funny to me because when Macie was re-watching and I read "Rick" in the cast, I had NO CLUE who that was even after going to check what he looked like. :joker: :joker: :joker:

Anyway, not that Redemption Island is great but it's definitely a better season than South Pacific. Not only based on casts but the drama/entertainment in SoPa literally revolved around Brandon being psycho & the Cochran flip which was also semi-hard to watch (@ both Brandon & the Cochran flip :joker:).

[Macie Lightfoot]

okay but I'm almost halfway through a Redemption Island rewatch and we still don't know anyone other than Rob and Phillip. Matt is probably the third most developed character, and he has been living on an island by himself since Day 5.

[JerseyWins]

okay but I'm almost halfway through a Redemption Island rewatch and we still don't know anyone other than Rob and Phillip.
I disagree but you don't even need to know anyone else when Rob & Phillip are providing great TV time and time again. :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Nobody else has been given any characterization though. Grant doesn't exist, Natalie and Ashley are lazy, and Andrea just randomly appears with a confessional about the possibility of Matt returning from RI. And then you have Zapatera, which has Mike AND Steve AND Julie AND David (and now even Ralph) all swapping in and out as bland narrators. The only storyline is "Sarita is weak and David can't stand her guts" and it came out of nowhere. We are literally given no reason to care about any of those people.

Not to mention that Rob and Phillip, the only two people with any amount of craft to their edit, can be summarized as a next-level gamebot and a next-level pain in the ass respectively. You're pretty much watching the same content from them every single episode.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Officially done with the RI pre-merge and I don't have anything else to add really. Again, everything on Ometepe revolved around Rob effortlessly masterminding everything (are we supposed to be invested in the fact that this is his fourth go-around? Most winners seal the deal on their first try, and most people don't even get to play Survivor to begin with) and Phillip being loud and forced and contrived and obnoxious. There's literally nothing else happening with this tribe. As for Zapatera, the big focus was ~Sarita vs. David~ except that Sarita was booted so the tribe's only storyline is done. Mike and Ralph and Julie and Steve are literally serving no purpose (as are Grant and Ashley and Natalie! And Andrea is questionable.) It's literally a show about two people at this rate.

My other note is that David is ****ing insufferable and one of the most smug humans alive. Barking in Sarita's face about how HIS WHOLE LIFE REVOLVES AROUND HIGH PRESSURE SITUATIONS and because he is a lawyer, he will be doing every puzzle from now on POINT BLANK PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION........... I can't tell what I'm more disturbed by, his arrogance and overconfidence in his ability to do literally ANY type of puzzle literally only because he is a lawyer, or the fact that Zapatera eats this **** up and seems to agree. IDK, he sucks and I hope he just ****s off until he gives his awful jury speech.

[JerseyWins]

Personally, I'll take a show that revolves around Rob & Phillip with a cameo from a crazy Russell Hantz in the beginning over a show that revolves around Coach & Cochran with a crazy Brandon Hantz running around.

Don't get me wrong though, Zapatera was incredibly boring and terrible to watch but it was very satisfying to see them get taken down by Rob's mafia of "zombies" after the merge. Rob's side was really fun to watch throughout despite the predictability.

[JerseyWins]

Not to mention that Rob and Phillip, the only two people with any amount of craft to their edit, can be summarized as a next-level gamebot and a next-level pain in the ass respectively.
Phillip the next level pain in the ass. :clap1: :joker:

[reece(:]

actually yes

https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/3kjtjj/entire_reedit_of_survivor_samoa_uploaded_finally/

it's re-edited with less Russell and the secret scenes put in instead. Not totally Russell-less.
Still iconic

[JerseyWins]

Thailand is so boring that it might prevent me from finishing all the seasons before Game Changers like I had planned. </3 (although I've also just been extremely busy lately so it's not all on Thailand being terrible)

I might just give up on it and start with Amazon the next time I decide to watch some Survivor. :joker: I'm reeeally looking forward to the All Stars season now.

[JerseyWins]

Still iconic
I can't imagine how bad Samoa would be without Russell in it. :nono:

[Macie Lightfoot]

We'd at least maybe get to know some of the people from Galu, and they seemed pretty awesome with their limited screen time.

[Braden]

Me coming for production for cutting Anient Voices:

http://68.media.tumblr.com/227888b32fd681b64237814d383a542f/tumblr_n9l3iuNDaL1ql5yr7o1_500.gif

[Braden]

I haven't liked Alicia much at all during One World, but her pointing out Troyzan wearing different shorts at tribal council is too good.

[JerseyWins]

I tried my best to get through another episode of Thailand (episode 10) while I had a little bit of time just now but I just can't do it.

Idk why it's even this bad... I guess it's just that bland & uneventful or maybe I'm just getting bored of Survivor. :shrug:

[JerseyWins]

Alright so I finished episode 10 and watched episode 11 - I should've just got some sleep.

But watching that is what has gotten me sleepy so

Anyway, aside from the Robb & Shii-Ann stuff, the moment of the season for me might be Jan's reaction(s) to the money they got before the auction reward.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Watched the merge episode of RI and for one of the better episodes of the season, it was not very good! It wasn't bad, especially when you factor in the fact that the next two episodes might be the two worst in franchise history, but eh it wasn't exciting at all. I guess Matt going through a revolving door is kind of interesting, but this season really hurts from the fact that it can't seem to present a storyline without fully ignoring half of the cast. Mike served as the lone spokesperson for Zapatera, and aside from him the only people to get focus were Matt, Andrea, and Rob. I'm not saying that they shouldn't have been the main focal points of the episode, but Natalie and Ashley and Grant and Julie and Ralph and David and Steve didn't exist in this episode and that's just really bad editing.

IDK, I don't have anything else to say about this episode is that I forgot just how extraordinarily bad Matt is at this game? Telling Rob about his temptations to blindside him is one thing, but then he went completely rogue and threw his vote away by voting for Steve??? and Andrea voted her BFF Matt out too??? Like, I get that Rob is the only one actually playing the game but good lord.

[Macie Lightfoot]

jesus, this scene where Ralph is trying to appeal to Ashley and she's just shutting his **** down is just brutal for the viewer. Ralph's attempts at getting off of the chop block are ridiculously transparent with him promising his jury vote at the final eleven, Ashley's smug as **** all "we're not allowed to talk about it :) kind of pointless for you to even ask me :)" and Ralph just walks off all ":shrug: we can't even play the game if we don't know where to start!!!"

I actually feel like my intelligence was insulted.

[Macie Lightfoot]

and just when things can't possibly get any worse, we IMMEDIATELY cut to the introduction of ~the buddy system~ which is just flat out creepy? Like, it's not just "you can't talk to Zapatera alone," it's "we have an entirely separate shelter from Zapatera and a different food supply and we eat our meals at different times" and it's disturbing to watch Rob form a cult and just have everyone follow blindly. This is especially true when IMMEDIATELY after the buddy system scene, Natalie pulls Rob off into the jungle and is like "oh, Ashley didn't tell you what Ralph told her??? Well let me tell you then :) btw Ashley said you don't need to know about it ;)" like... say what you want about how great of a game Rob played but this cast is ****ing DENSE and you know this season was drafted entirely for a Rob or Russell win from the get-go.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I know that Rob has some level of charisma but I refuse to believe that people actually enjoyed his RI stint and thought he was fun to watch. His entire mission statement for his game is to suck the fun out of every scenario and not let anyone enjoy anything. ~50 fish get caught in a net they left out on the rocks? NOPE, can't have those fish, because they are dead and therefore they are inedible. Not to mention that they were caught by The Evil Zapatera Tribe!!! Oh and Grant, don't you dare go over there and have even one bite of their fish!

[JerseyWins]

this season was drafted entirely for a Rob or Russell win from the get-go.
*Russell's tribe immediately couldn't stand him and were planning to take him out from the get-go*

[DouglasS]

Natalie from RI is one of the worst castaways ever

[Macie Lightfoot]

*Russell's tribe immediately couldn't stand him and were planning to take him out from the get-go*

*Redemption Island existed with the explicit purpose of giving people a second, even a third chance*

[Macie Lightfoot]

No better way to start off the controversial Rice Wars/Race Wars episode with Phillip appropriating Buddhism and Native America culture all in one scene!

[Braden]

All of the women screaming at Tarzan beating out Troyzan in the slip 'n slide :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Rice Wars is as dreary as ever, between Phillip appropriating Buddhism and Native American heritage, Ometepe treating Zapatera like complete **** for the past there episodes only for Phillip to steal rice from them out of spite ("ALL RICE HERE BELONGS TO ALL OF US!!!!" uh no it doesn't, considering you and your alliance have enacted separate shelters and diets and meal times), Phillip CHARGING up to Steve and demanding that Zapatera share rice with them just because they've mismanaged their own rice supply so poorly, his confessional where he states that black men tend to self-destruct and go on killing sprees (wtf), Phillip going nuts over being called crazy and equating it to being called the n-word when up until now he has had multiple confessionals in which he outlines that his strategy is to be perceived as crazy because he knows he can't win so he at least wants to make it to the final three (I can't emphasis just how infuriating this whole aspect of RI is)... idk, I'm only 20 minutes into the episode but I still maintain that Phillip's actions with regards to race are just as offensive, if not even more than Colton's.

[Braden]

I get so much second-hand embarrassment from watching Kat.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Don't we all

[Macie Lightfoot]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Warrior25/Survivor%2022/Capture-0-2.jpg

the only good part of episode 11.

[JerseyWins]

With no work and no class until tonight I finally decided to force myself to finish Thailand. Definitely the most boring season of the franchise and that's despite the fact that I really like the winner and sort of like the side that made it to the end. It's just that nothing was happening. Decent season while Robb & Shii-Ann were there but it was still pretty boring overall even then.

Thailand Cast Ranking:

1. Robb
2. Shii-Ann
3. Brian
4. Jan
5. Stephanie
6. Tanya
7. Ted
8. Helen
9. Jed
10. Penny
11. Ken
12. Clay
13. Ghandia
14. Jake
15. Erin
16. John

I could really do without #9-16 and that's half the cast. I didn't really dislike anyone very strongly at all but a lot of them were very boring and/or mildly annoying.

[TomC]

Helen was my favourite from Thailand. Really disliked Robb, he was a prick to Shii Ann

[JerseyWins]

Meh, they were both somewhat mean to each other but nothing even remotely bad IMO. :shrug: They were like brother & sister and somewhat liked each other by the end. :joker: They were both really fun to watch and their dislike for each other only added to that.

Helen fluctuated between slightly funny to slightly annoying to me but overall she was a bit "meh" when I think about her as a whole. Decently ranked for me on this season but I thought this cast was very weak tbh.

[JerseyWins]

I still need to get to Amazon before All Stars but an update on the All Stars cast:

1. Boston Rob
2. Jenna L
3. Ethan
4. Shii-Ann
5. Alicia
6. Kathy
7. Tina
8. Tom (although a very weak like, maybe more fitting to be in orange - I didn't really like him but found him kinda amusing by the end; random for him to be an All Star as well)
9. Richard
10. Lex
11. Amber (the strangest All Star addition due to being probably the biggest non-entity... but I know how this season ends and I could go either way with her so I'll have to see how much of an edit she actually gets this time)
12. Rudy (I'll give him some credit for being kinda funny; my opinion on him has improved a bit over time)
13. Susan (she left me with a sour taste and gets a bit worse in hindsight)
14. Rupert
15. Colby
16. Jerri

Something like that but the ones in orange, in particular, are extremely interchangeable. Again, I'm still not loving the cast going into it tbh. There's enough people that I can get behind but still too many people I just don't really care about.

Still need to watch Rob C & Jenna M though and I'm hoping they can be two more that I like... I'm looking forward to Rob because he seems like a funny enough guy from what I've seen of his podcast.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Imagine having interchangeable opinions on people like Rich and Rudy and Sue and Rupert and then being excited to see people like Alicia... you never fail to surprise me hun!

[Macie Lightfoot]

In the middle of the Andrea boot and Rob's getting a sappy confessional about how HE NEEDS THIS and HE'S BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS FOR TEN YEARS NOW and like... am I supposed to be deeply moved and invested in his story? Like, am I supposed to care that he's so close to winning Survivor on his FOURTH try? Most players only play once. Most humans don't even get cast for Survivor! What makes you so special?

Also, things make so much more sense when you realize that Amber was truly the original Ometepe girl.

[Macie Lightfoot]

"Phillip, before we vote, share one little nugget that you think your great-grandfather would say if he were here right now :)"

Jeffrey really insults our intelligence as viewers more often than we remember.

[JerseyWins]

Yessss I'm really liking Rob C after the premiere episode. He's so cheesy already in a very funny & likable way. :joker: But Shawna might be my #1 favorite.

Loving this cast practically as a whole though on first impressions which is really refreshing after last season.

Amazing first episode too, I remained highly entertained throughout. Probably my favorite first episode out of the first 6 seasons. :clap1: I was a little worried seeing the male/female split after watching Vanuatu but it's working out well so far this time. The one thing that could've made the episode perfect was if Roger or even Daniel went since those are actually the two I don't really like so far and I liked Ryan. :( I should start posting more about the episodes as I'm watching though because I forget what moments I wanted to comment on afterwards.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ralph making Andrea sleep on the floor at Redemption Island :love: Andrea getting kicked into the head when Matt I think crawled into the shelter :love:

[JerseyWins]

Oh wow, Roger's gotten even worse this episode already in that homosexuality conversation with Alex. Alex :clap1:

[Macie Lightfoot]

oh god, we've officially entered the nauseating "Natalie is sweet and innocent and pure and that evil wench Ashley is trying to corrupt her!!!!" bull**** from Rob :rolleyes:

[Macie Lightfoot]

EVIL ASHLEY WINNING IMMUNITY :love: she really isn't that great lol but it's at the point where I'm desperately clinging to whatever I got, and somehow that is Ashley Underwood.

[JerseyWins]

Lol @ how divided the votes were this episode, 4 different people with a vote. :joker:

Janet was ok but I'm perfectly fine with her going. Pretty solid episode but definitely a step down from the first one. I feel bad for Christy and don't blame her for having kind of a bad attitude this episode. JoAnna says Christy's attitude sucks but hers was actually worse for no reason. It'd be very frustrating being deaf in that environment and feeling excluded because of it. Reminds me of Nina's situation obviously although I thought Nina didn't get enough of an edit other than "excluded deaf person" to feel anything more than just a bit sympathetic towards her. They're showing plenty of Christy's personality and also actual situations of how difficult it is for her so it's a lot more emotional and rootable than Nina who I just honestly didn't care about aside from feeling bad tbh.

[JerseyWins]

oh god, we've officially entered the nauseating "Natalie is sweet and innocent and pure and that evil wench Ashley is trying to corrupt her!!!!" bull**** from Rob :rolleyes:
Didn't he say this stuff with a big smile/smirk on his face though? :smug:

Rob is a funny guy. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

EVIL ASHLEY WINNING IMMUNITY :love: she really isn't that great lol but it's at the point where I'm desperately clinging to whatever I got, and somehow that is Ashley Underwood.
More like Ashley was a quality character but at the end she just gets kinda lost in the mix when you have people like Rob, Phillip, Natalie, Andrea stealing the show. :joker:

[VanessaFeltz.]

ew redemp**** island

[reece(:]

Not Natalie stealing the show

[Macie Lightfoot]

Didn't he say this stuff with a big smile/smirk on his face though? :smug:

Rob is a funny guy. :joker:

Not really! He told Natalie that he can't stand what Ashley's doing to her, and then said in a confessional that Natalie's not the brightest player but she's an innocent and pure sweetheart and Ashley's trying to corrupt that and she's imposing her wisdom on Natalie and it's not a good thing. There was no indication of humor or sarcasm or anything of that nature, he was just infantilizing Natalie in a kind of creepy way.

More like Ashley was a quality character but at the end she just gets kinda lost in the mix when you have people like Rob, Phillip, Natalie, Andrea stealing the show. :joker:

I think this is a joke but I genuinely can't tell

[JerseyWins]

- Oh, he usually indicates a lot of humor/sarcasm whenever he says something like that (usually with a smile or laugh at the end of his statement) but I guess maybe he was legitimately mad in that instance.

- No joke. It's the truth.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ashley doesn't even exist until the endgame and she only appears as an absurdly desperate attempt for the editors to cast some doubt into Rob's victory march, Natalie doesn't even exist until the endgames and she only appears as a puppet who can barely form a sentence, and Andrea pops up every third episode with a confessional or two about how she could make a move but she's not going to and then she got blindsided. If you're citing them as quality characters who steal the show, then that really speaks volumes as to what a poor season it is.

[Macie Lightfoot]

"Natalie's a goodhearted little soul, one that's loyal. And, uh, I don't like to see someone corrupt my soldier."

:rolleyes:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Phillip's FTC getup is really pushy for someone who is supposedly so concerned with racism.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Julie using her jury question to tell everyone that they should be embarrassed of how they played the game :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

:rolleyes: David's jury speech is so awful. I'll never forgive him for kicking off the semi-annual trend of the "the only logical decision is to vote for xx to win, and of course because I am a very logical person myself, I will be voted for xx and you all should too because if you don't then you are not voting for The Right Choice" :rolleyes:

[Macie Lightfoot]

k I'm saving the reunion for tomorrow but here's my edgic chart

http://i.imgur.com/ZL3wFBH.png

don't you just love when you can look at an edgic chart and tell that the season was a complete abomination? an unquestionable franchise low as we all know. A season that was designed for Rob or Russell to win, they really should've just ended the whole thing after Day 9 when Russell lost the Duel. We didn't need to sit through Rice Wars. We didn't need to sit through The Buddy System. We didn't need to sit through Rob *LITERALLY* carrying his family on his back. We didn't need to sit through Matt's one-note religious talk about how God wanted him to win each and every Duel. We didn't need to sit through Zapatera's painful self-destruction that only painted a narrative that they should've kept Russell. We didn't need to sit through Stephanie, someone who makes Corinne look like she has natural wit. We didn't need to sit through Andrea AND Grant AND Ashley AND Natalie all being completely oblivious to the fact that Rob was only looking out for himself. We didn't need to sit through David's jury speech. And good lord, we certainly didn't need to sit through Phillip's ridiculously phony charade of federal agent slash ****ing racist Cherokee descendant.

I'm done, at least until I sift through the reunion. Here's my cast ranking. This was exceptionally hard since it's a cast that I entirely don't care about at best and ****ing abhor at worst.

Ralph (shocker??? was surprisingly righteous and did not give a ****)
Francesca (ik she's kinda sour IRL but she was fun in her only episode)
Kristina (was fun in the premiere but kinda faded after that)
Sarita (kinda righteous and good but only if you're really looking for it)
Steve (I do appreciate his crusade against Phillip)
Julie (annoying about throwing challenges but I love her distaste for the F3 and Phillip)
Mike (only noteworthy when he called the girls concubines and when he lashed out at Krista)
Andrea (had some potential but was too pathetic to capitalize on it)
Ashley (being the endgame doubt was kinda fun(ny) but she's also kinda lame)
Matt ("I think God wanted me to win all these Duels" what)
Grant (who)
Krista (lame follower of a **** alliance)
Natalie (painfully meek and simple)
David (pompous and smug for no ****ing reason)
Stephanie (tryhard sour bitch for no ****ing reason)
Rob (congratulations, you won a CBS show on your sixth try. Most get it done on their first!)
Russell (duh)
Phillip (duh)

[JerseyWins]

If you're citing them as quality characters who steal the show, then that really speaks volumes as to what a poor season it is.
Idk, I know these are casual/production opinions but Andrea & Phillip got on Caramoan as favorites and Natalie almost got on Cambodia I think. They had to be some level of quality characters for that to happen (it means they were showcased enough / had at least some layers to their character or were just flat out entertaining enough). What you said is just your perception (& on one part of their characters). You could do that with a lot of characters on these shows, especially SoPa for example, a season you gave a decent amount of credit. I don't think R.I. was great but it had its moments and wasn't bad for a season with the redemption island twist. I wouldn't expect you, or anyone who doesn't like Rob & Phillip in particular, to like the season because they did get major edits on the show and were big reasons why the season wasn't so bad.

:rolleyes: David's jury speech is so awful. I'll never forgive him for kicking off the semi-annual trend of the "the only logical decision is to vote for xx to win, and of course because I am a very logical person myself, I will be voted for xx and you all should too because if you don't then you are not voting for The Right Choice" :rolleyes:
Didn't Sue Hawk basically start this?

[Braden]

Finished One World.

I thought the season was okay. I said before that I was not expecting it to be enjoyable based on what I had read beforehand, but I was surprised with how much I liked it to begin with. It definitely got boring mid-way through, but it picked up again with the endgame. The finale was quite good, though Kim's win was predictable. I still like that the other two got their moments to shine throughout the season. Sabrina's confessional about how she was let off her job, and that she wanted her students to take a risk beyond Brooklyn was really lovely, and Chelsea seemed like a sweet girl with an edge ("kiss my ass" is iconic tbqh :p).

I think the cast in general was a bit lacklustre, but I've definitely taken away some favourites (Sabrina (robbed of a second chance! :() and Tarzan in particular). I thought I would hate Colton and Troyzan; I know people certainly don't agree, but I couldn't help but find the former entertaining, and the latter started off okay- he definitely got annoying during the merge with the whole "This is my island!", but still quite harmless. I wouldn't rank them highly though. Colton went too far with some of his remarks, and Troyzan- despite the fact it was more of a love to hate thing- was quite lame. I'm not dreading his appearance on game Changers as much as other people now though.

Other notes: Ms. Monica Culpepper was a delight. I already liked her on BvW, which was the first season I watched live from start to finish. That might've influenced my feelings towards her, but she was still really likable. Alicia was a bit of a cow, but I ended up feeling sorry for her at the reunion. I'm still not sure how I feel towards Christina as a character, but towards the end it was almost ironic appreciation. Likeise with Kat, still don't know what to make of her. Most of the time it was second-hand embarrassment, but her jury speech was genuinely heart-warming and I don't think she's a bad person at all.

All of the other men on the jury kind of blend into one another. No-one I essentially like or dislike, except Tarzan. He was a surprise throughout the season because I didn't think I would have been as much of a fan before watching it. I think he should return to another season.

So yeah, all in all. It was a mild surprise (similar to South Pacific), but not exciting enough to say I thoroughly enjoyed it. If I am ever to reatch any season in the future, I would be reluc- well, I actually wouldn't be reluctant because it is somewhat overrated and may be interesting to gather thoughts on a re-watch, but it's not thrilling television like what is guranteed with other seasons. Th reunion was good though. Anyway...

Cast ranking:

Sabrina
Tarzan
Chelsea
Christina
Monica
Colton
Kat
Kim
Troyzan
Leif
Jonas
Nina
Bill
Alicia
Matt
Michael
Jay
Kourtney

...my rankings rarely ever make sense to me :p

[Braden]

Season ranking:

Heroes vs. Villains
Micronesia
Pearl Islands
Amazon
Borneo
Vanuatu
China
Panama
Kaoh Rong*
Africa
Cagayan
Marquesas
San Juan Del Sur
Palau
Gabon
Outback
Millennials vs. Gen X
Nicaragua
All-Stars
Tocantins
World's Apart
-One World-
South Pacific
Fiji
Guatemala
Blood vs. Water
Cambodia*
Cook Islands
Thailand
Samoa
Redemption Island

*denotes a season I have yet to watch in its entirety

Seasons left:

Philippines
Caramoan

...I am almost there!!

[Macie Lightfoot]

Idk, I know these are casual/production opinions but Andrea & Phillip got on Caramoan as favorites and Natalie almost got on Cambodia I think. They had to be some level of quality characters for that to happen (it means they were showcased enough / had at least some layers to their character or were just flat out entertaining enough). What you said is just your perception (& on one part of their characters). You could do that with a lot of characters on these shows, especially SoPa for example, a season you gave a decent amount of credit. I don't think R.I. was great but it had its moments and wasn't bad for a season with the redemption island twist. I wouldn't expect you, or anyone who doesn't like Rob & Phillip in particular, to like the season because they did get major edits on the show and were big reasons why the season wasn't so bad.

eh, I don't take much credence into people being quality characters because they get invited back for future seasons since the difference between how production casts male returnees and female returnees is staggeringly different. Like, Amber was cast as an All-Star. Danielle DiLorenzo was cast as a villain. Sierra and Hali were cast as Game Changers. Even Parvati's inclusion in Micronesia was questionable at the time to some. Just looking at the Cambodia ballot, the male side was littered with every hyper-strategist imaginable, all playing the same role, and the female side was sprinkled with bikini fluff like Mikayla Wingle and Monica Padilla.

And idk, I just finished the season and Natalie and Ashley's voices weren't even recognizable to me until the final six maybe, when they finally started getting slightly more individualized content. I'm curious as to what you or other people found to be noteworthy about them and some of the reasons why RI was an entertaining season with a lot of moments because I can't think of anything. It felt like I was watching the same episode over and over again because there wasn't much forward plot development.

Didn't Sue Hawk basically start this?

Motives were entirely different. Sue's speech came from a place of hurt because of all the baggage that she carried into the show and into her friendship with Kelly. David was just an ass who wanted to pat himself on the back all "the person I am voting for is objectively The Right Choice, and if you have any dignity then I expect you to vote the same way as me."

[Braden]

So I'm watching the first episode of Philippines now, and I'm cackling at Abi and RC's first-episode friendship & Penner accidently almost breaking Jeff Kent's leg.

[Braden]

<\3 Zane was actually quite amusing to watch.

Angie is giving me Amanda Kimmel vibes, which I love :love:

[Braden]

I'm almost finished with episode 2 of Philippines, and I've really enjoyed both episodes. I can definitely see why people prefer the format of starting with three tribes as oppose to two. The dynamic of each tribe is enough to keep me interested, though the red tribe (Kalabaw?) is a bit too Penner/Jeff-heavy at the moment.

Angie gave the best response to Jeff's question:

"If you could change one thing about this tribe it would be...?"

"...*scrunches face* that we coooould- have cookies?"

:love:

[JerseyWins]

And idk, I just finished the season and Natalie and Ashley's voices weren't even recognizable to me until the final six maybe, when they finally started getting slightly more individualized content. I'm curious as to what you or other people found to be noteworthy about them and some of the reasons why RI was an entertaining season with a lot of moments because I can't think of anything. It felt like I was watching the same episode over and over again because there wasn't much forward plot development.
To answer all of this and some previous stuff in one main answer without being able to remember specific scenes/moments (I don't remember specifics not because they were bad but because my memory sucks :joker:)...

Natalie & Ashley were fun together, ranting about Phillip as well as their way of strategizing. The moments were there throughout the season involving Phillip, Ashley & Natalie. Rob had the funny confessionals breaking down the events in entertaining fashion with plenty of witty/sarcastic/funny remarks here and there. Well executed all-around IMO. Finally, about not caring about Rob's win due to it being his 4th attempt... Well, this was only my second time watching Rob play at the time but I feel like it being his 4th try doesn't take away from the win at all. He's put months into the game, a game that involves a lot of luck and I'd assume a lot of will depending on how legit it actually is, so it's still very rootable for him to keep coming back and finally get that W in the end. Why not be invested in him finally putting it together for a win (very impressively at that)? The guy has charm/wit/charisma when he speaks so the entertainment factor alone is definitely there each episode to keep me invested personally. He showed through the season how he has actually improved at the game (like seeing Phillip as the perfect goat and keeping him until the end, keeping people against each other and laying low rather than putting the focus on him, etc.).

Ometepe as a whole were a very entertaining tribe where even though they stayed blindly loyal as a tribe behind Rob, they still had a whole lot of friction in the group thanks to Phillip's craziness and the girls' hatred of Phillip. :joker: One of the big downsides of the season besides the R.I. twist was how bland the Zapatera people were because almost all of them generally showed zero personality whenever they actually had their take on a situation. The Ometepe side doesn't deserve criticism though, it deserves praise. :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

Angie gave the best response to Jeff's question:

"If you could change one thing about this tribe it would be...?"

"...*scrunches face* that we coooould- have cookies?"

:love:
:joker: Angie was great :love:

[JerseyWins]

The guys in Amazon fantasizing over the girls for basically three straight episodes now is still hilarious to me. :joker:

Also... Butch: "I'm 50 years old, I'm not supposed to look at things like that but of course, I'm not dead either." :joker:

[Braden]

Denise and Malcolm looking through Russell's stuff for the idol :joker:

Also, I'm liking RC more than Abi-Maria during their debacle.

[JerseyWins]

5 episodes into Amazon now and I'm really enjoying this season. It's very light in strategy and a pretty basic/predictable boot order but it's very fun nonetheless. Lots of likable characters that are shining through. It feels kinda like a light-hearted, funny season of Survivor and the season is going heavy with the character development over anything else which definitely works with this particular cast.

[TomC]

I feel like the post-merge of Amazon developed Survivor strategy quite a lot.

[JerseyWins]

Oh, that works very well. I'm hoping it'll remain entertaining after the merge then as well and this could be one of my all time favorite Survivor seasons. :clap1:

Also, awww very nice moment with Butch's speech about Christy in episode 6. :clap1: Even as kind of like a side character, Butch is providing a lot of value to the season. Extremely likable.

[Firewire]

FINALLY started Pearl Islands

Really good opening episode, seems to have set up the season really well. Drake is so much more interesting than Morgan.

Sandra :love: Christa :love: Lilian :love:

[Braden]

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<333

[Firewire]

Watched episodes 2 and 3

Loving Sandra, "I can get loud, too!" :love:

Lil </3

[Headie]

Pearl Islands <333

https://68.media.tumblr.com/4fdc8c184daca5954a4e00922fa44a99/tumblr_n75wr9B1kX1tev7fuo1_500.gif

[Firewire]

Ep 4...

Bye Burton x

[Firewire]

BTW should I spoiler these or is it okay just to post?

[Firewire]

Ep 5

Honestly had no idea Michelle was even there, so no loss.

Rupert is kind of over-exposed, I don't hate him but I'm like GO AWAY

[JerseyWins]

Rupert is definitely over-exposed. Just not very entertaining at all to have that big of a role, very bland, and even annoying. He's pretty meh but gets worse in hindsight for me.

[Firewire]

I've seen up to and including episode 10 now

Lili returning and getting Savage out :worship:

Rupert going is an interesting dynamic, he was very much the centre of attention so I'm interested to see how it plays out without him there

[Firewire]

Finished Pearl Islands

Loved it, fantastic winner (or final 2 in general tbh)

Jonny Fairplay is grotesque

[Braden]

I'm really enjoying this merge so far, in Philippines. I've finished two episodes and I'm pretty hooked. The gameplay is interesting and I'm loving the scrambling.

I just wish RC was not the casualty of Penner's idol play. She was probably my favourite up until that point. Jeff, on the other hand, is not so much of a loss, though I do not dislike him as much as I thought I would. His last words were hilarious in a horrendous type of way.

I really loved the literal last minute scrambling before Jeff's blindside. Penner winning immunity was the perfect catalyst to produce such ****ery, haha. Also loved this exchange:

*amidst last-minute chaos back at camp*

Someone: vote Malcolm!
Someone else: vote Skupin!
Another person: Vote Jeff!

*separate conversation between Carter and Jeff*

Jeff: We have six votes to get rid of Pete!
Carter: I thought they were sending you home tonight? o-O

:joker:

Also loved Abi randomly showing the hidden-immunity idol after Malcolm presented his. I feel I'm going to enjoy her a lot more, post-RC.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Rupert is kind of over-exposed, I don't hate him but I'm like GO AWAY

Poopert :love::love::love: he *might* be my favorite male of all time??? Complete force of righteous good, hilariously cartoon in persona and behavior, passionately devotes himself to whatever the theme of the season is without a hint of irony, and ultimately not that overbearig in the grand scheme of things? The biggest criticism of him in PI is how he's an overbearing camera*****, and while it's totally a fair point, it just makes me love him even more when he bellows down the beach all WHO VOTED FOR ME?!?!?!?!?! and putting JFP in a chokehold. But Rupert had suuuuch a satisfying downfall and PI was really his only season where he was like this. He was just an amusing side character in his other seasons and that makes him a lot more appealing than people like Rob Mariano and Russell Hantz, who are more or less the same every single episode of every season they are on.

Also as for spoiler tags, as far as I'm concerned if you haven't watched PI yet it is entirely your fault so oh well if you get spoiled!!!

[JerseyWins]

Poopert :love::love::love: he *might* be my favorite male of all time??? Complete force of righteous good, hilariously cartoon in persona and behavior, passionately devotes himself to whatever the theme of the season is without a hint of irony, and ultimately not that overbearig in the grand scheme of things? The biggest criticism of him in PI is how he's an overbearing camera*****, and while it's totally a fair point, it just makes me love him even more when he bellows down the beach all WHO VOTED FOR ME?!?!?!?!?! and putting JFP in a chokehold. But Rupert had suuuuch a satisfying downfall and PI was really his only season where he was like this. He was just an amusing side character in his other seasons and that makes him a lot more appealing than people like Rob Mariano and Russell Hantz, who are more or less the same every single episode of every season they are on.

Also as for spoiler tags, as far as I'm concerned if you haven't watched PI yet it is entirely your fault so oh well if you get spoiled!!!
The "WHO VOTED FOR ME?!?" scene is just uncomfortable.

Also, overbearing is actually a really good way to summarize him so yes he is very overbearing in the grand scheme of things.

[JerseyWins]

Hahaha @ Roger's boot episode. Everyone destroyed him throughout the episode. :joker:

And an extra ha @ Roger during tribal council saying he would've stayed up longer in the challenge if he thought he was going.

[Firewire]

Poopert :love::love::love: he *might* be my favorite male of all time??? Complete force of righteous good, hilariously cartoon in persona and behavior, passionately devotes himself to whatever the theme of the season is without a hint of irony, and ultimately not that overbearig in the grand scheme of things? The biggest criticism of him in PI is how he's an overbearing camera*****, and while it's totally a fair point, it just makes me love him even more when he bellows down the beach all WHO VOTED FOR ME?!?!?!?!?! and putting JFP in a chokehold. But Rupert had suuuuch a satisfying downfall and PI was really his only season where he was like this. He was just an amusing side character in his other seasons and that makes him a lot more appealing than people like Rob Mariano and Russell Hantz, who are more or less the same every single episode of every season they are on.

Also as for spoiler tags, as far as I'm concerned if you haven't watched PI yet it is entirely your fault so oh well if you get spoiled!!!

He's definitely one of my favourite males to date, but he was really over-exposed for a lot of it.

But after he left his presence was missed.

When he swims for hours searching for the lost spear and ROARS with pride once he finds it :love:

[VanessaFeltz.]

I just rewatched Kelly winning the reward at f5 in borneo. I remember it being a gamechanging scene for Kelly when she sees the first 10 mins of the season. I remember having a dramatic music behind and Kelly realising how much she have come and thus resulting her getting more confidence and winning rest of the challenges.

But i rewatched the scene it was a simple win with a simple 2 mins celebration. Do i remember incorrectly or was there an extra scene somewhere?

[JerseyWins]

Deena's blindside :joker: She wasn't expecting that at alllllllll.

[Macie Lightfoot]

He's definitely one of my favourite males to date, but he was really over-exposed for a lot of it.

But after he left his presence was missed.

When he swims for hours searching for the lost spear and ROARS with pride once he finds it :love:

I don't mind the overexposure because it's not like the show coddled him or tried to make him look like something he wasn't. His portrayal was pretty fair and we saw the good and the bad and the audience just fell in love with him anyway :love: And again, his passionate commitment to the season's theme and constant efforts to make sure that good prevails over evil are INSPIRATIONAL, especially when it results in him hating people like Savage and Burton and JFP and Russell Hantz and championing people like Sandra and Christa.

[JerseyWins]

Episode 11 now. I kinda wish I did a cast ranking after each episode because it probably would have the most changes on an episode-to-episode basis out of any season of Survivor that I've seen. I think that's a good thing because there are a lot of things going on and plenty of dimensions to peoples' characters.

Alex going is pretty insane as well (I went from not really caring about him to somewhat liking him to maybe somewhat disliking him in the span of a few episodes). I'm glad Matthew stayed and I did not like him at all until like 1-2 episodes ago but now I suddenly like him a lot. Pretty goofy yet always serious. :joker:

Definitely a highly strategic season at a level that has not really been seen yet in seasons 1-5... which is interesting because at first it felt like more of a "fun" season that didn't involve as much strategy lol.

[Firewire]

Okay just watched All-Stars

It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be at the start, but it went downhill about halfway through.

Final 2 probably the worst final two outside of Thailand (from what I've seen so far)

Shii Ann was the star :love:

[TomC]

Shii Ann is awesome in AS :love: Definitely my fave

[Firewire]

Without Boston Rob I probably would've enjoyed it more, he's overbearing as ****

[Firewire]

Shii Ann is awesome in AS :love: Definitely my fave

Ugh icon

[JerseyWins]

Episode 12 after the Alex blindside has been amazing :joker: (currently just got to the immunity challenge). Rob turning on Alex/Heidi/Jenna has really spiced things up even more than before... Heidi/Jenna/Rob/Christy have all been GREAT this episode. Jenna just won immunity. I'm also not sure whether Rob or Heidi will go now so this should be a suspenseful finish too.

EDIT: Actually I just realized it could only be a 3-3 tie if Christy voted Rob out anyway. But lol wtf @ this possibly turning into a Christy boot? I did NOT expect that if it happens.

[reece(:]

Shii-Ann and Jerri slayed AS

[JerseyWins]

WTF @ Jenna giving Heidi the immunity necklace. But Christy does go anyway. What a cluster**** at the end of this episode. :joker:

I'm close to 100% sure that Jenna will win. -I decided to look it up now since I was basically sure of it anyway and wanted to post about it.- I've thought this for a while (especially because I know she gets on All Stars; maybe a mistake on my part checking the cast :joker:). Although I'm not sure exactly how deserving she is so far or how she manages to get to the end in her current situation but maybe that's why she wins. Idk how much the edit is giving it away exactly but it's mainly just that no one else seems to have a shot to win besides Rob and I already knew he doesn't win going into it.

Anyway, this season has been one of my favorites and I still look forward to the end game of this season despite knowing the winner. :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

I think this might be my favorite F5/F6 ever as well. It's at least up there.

[JerseyWins]

Hmm maybe I shouldn't have looked at the winner yet because during this next episode I feel like I could've bought into a potential Matthew win. And now that Matthew won the IC I could've definitely seen Jenna possibly going, adding some suspense. (edit: nevermind, this wasn't a very realistic possibility in the edit anyway)

This episode has cooled down a bit but that's to be expected after two great episodes with back to back interesting blindsides especially for this point in Survivor history.

[JerseyWins]

All the reactions to Heidi hyping herself up as a mastermind. :laugh3:

[JerseyWins]

Amazon finale time.

*Butch is doing Egyptian dances*

Rob C: When this game is over Butch is gonna need to see a therapist. Even Matthew is saying "Butch is psychotic, he's crazy" and if Matthew is saying you're crazy, you're out of your freaking mind.

:joker:

[JerseyWins]

Jenna's Jordan flu game?

[JerseyWins]

Yeah, Jenna's win makes perfect sense with her endgame. If I didn't know the result that'd be an intense battle at the final immunity challenge to see who takes Matthew to the end for the win. :joker: I wonder if Jenna even wins vs. Rob due to a "bitter" jury or something. :think:

[JerseyWins]

Lmaooo, Heidi's question "Is there anyone on the jury that's more deserving to be in your position?" *they both say Rob* "I mean-... I just think that-... is that the only person?"
*silence*
Jeff: I think they covered it. Thanks Heidi.
Heidi: O-ok.. ok.

Heidi (and Jenna as well) got so much better towards the end. :clap1:

Probably a top 5 season for me at least. Easily the best out of the first 6 seasons. Marquesas-Thailand-Amazon-Pearl Islands is a really nice run of seasons IF Thailand wasn't in there. :joker:

Cast Ranking:

1. Rob
2. Heidi
3. Shawna
4. Butch (feels random to put him in my top 5 but he was a gem in little parts throughout the season :joker:)
5. Christy
6. Jenna
7. Ryan
8. Matthew
9. Dave
10. Deena
11. Daniel
12. Alex
13. Janet
14. Jeanne
15. Roger
16. JoAnna

[JerseyWins]

The All Stars cast has improved over the past few seasons. Kinda looking forward to watching this now.

Final pre-season ranking going into it:

1. Boston Rob
2. Jenna L
3. Rob C
4. Ethan
5. Shii-Ann
6. Alicia
7. Kathy
8. Jenna M
9. Tina
10. Tom
11. Richard
12. Lex
13. Amber
14. Rudy
15. Susan
16. Rupert
17. Colby
18. Jerri

The Chapera tribe looks the best overall. Both Robs on the same tribe. :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

I might regret starting to watch All Stars so late but here goes. I like that I'll be watching 2 All Star seasons at once now (kinda 3 counting BBCAN, if you count it as an All Stars season). It looks like the premiere is only 48 minutes anyway? I can't remember how long the other early seasons were but I'm pretty sure at least the last one or last few were 2 hours.

Anyway, I can't believe they did an All Stars season and didn't include Fairplay or Sandra yet they included Rupert as the only Pearl Islands representative.

[JerseyWins]

Half way through this episode and it's excellent so far, great drama on each tribe already and the tribe dynamics are shaping up nicely. Also, now I remember why I did like Tommy towards the end of Africa. He's killing me already after like 2 confessionals. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Jeff: No one's gotten fire? So as Rudy says, the water is of no value?
Susan: I drank it.
Jeff: Navy Seal, how wise is that? Is that alright?
Rudy: Yeah
Jeff: So is it wise because it's the other tribe?
Rudy: Yeah

:joker:

Yeah, I might've had Rudy all wrong. I'm enjoying him atm. :joker: Also, Sue & Richard are feeling a bit more like the Sue & Richard I preferred earlier on in Borneo but I could be wrong on any 3 of these. It's still very early obviously. Sue & Richard seem to be in danger though - maybe even Rudy too.

[JerseyWins]

Ok now I'm confused about who goes first. The only thing I remember in the edit for this tribe is that Jenna said a winner should be taken out first. :think:

[JerseyWins]

Ok I was figuring Tina would go when the tribe lost and I'm fine with that... got a bit worried it would be Jenna for a second but then it was quickly obvious that wasn't going to happen.

The only thing I'm surprised about is that Tina went from 1st place to 1st out. I don't remember if that was mentioned at all in BvW and in theory the old woman that has won makes perfect sense as a first boot but I just expected her to last a little longer going into this season.

Anyway, amazing first episode. :clap1:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Anyway, I can't believe they did an All Stars season and didn't include Fairplay or Sandra yet they included Rupert as the only Pearl Islands representative.

objectively speaking Rupert was the biggest star they ever had

[JerseyWins]

The only way that makes sense is if it's a fat joke.

[MB.]

...except the evidence is right there in him winning America's Tribal Council? From what I understand he was ridiculously popular, especially compared to someone like Sandra

[Macie Lightfoot]

or it makes sense in that he is literally the most popular Survivor ever.

[JerseyWins]

Did Richard literally not bring clothes with him for All Stars?

EDIT: Ok I finally see him with shorts on after I said that. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Rudy: Putting up with the people is the survival part. :joker:

Rudy going is actually kind of a shame but I prefer Ethan anyway.

[JerseyWins]

- Susan is pretty fun/funny to watch when she's on the outs :joker: I think it's just that she kinda has this entitled behavior that's way more funny than annoying to watch when she's not in control.

- Boston Rob on Rob C: "It's like he's on a never ending coffee break" :joker:

- Rob C seems so irrelevant this time. One of the least entertaining people so far and he started out strong in particular in Amazon.

- Rupert is actually kinda funny as a madman. (regarding the shelter competition) :joker:

- Awwww Jenna </3

[JerseyWins]

Alicia is pretty damn great idk what Macie's talking about. I wouldn't categorize her as amazing in any way but more like generally likable. Whenever she's in a scene or confessional, I'm satisfied with her input to say the least. Great attitude, kind of like a cool/chill personality, but then she has a fiery side that can be very entertaining as well. :clap1:

Also, the Chapera tribe is sooooo good as a whole. Glad they started with them this episode.

[JerseyWins]

The way Lex is walking in the blindfold immunity comp. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Jeff: What could cause you to get voted off tonight Boston Rob?
Rob: I guess my mouth, my attitude, what else Amber?
Jeff: Wow you guys really have become a couple. You just asked your.. wife" :laugh3: Nice prediction Jeff.

Lul @ Sue calling herself a bitch to be around. At least she sees it. :joker: I think I can officially appreciate her more as a character.

I figured Rob C would be going (he did finally get some more confessionals this episode). Not too mad about it because even though I liked him this episode, he felt very uninvolved on his tribe throughout these first 4 episodes. Bit of a disappointment.

[JerseyWins]

Reeeeally wanted Colby gone this episode. I can't believe he was the OG Survivor "Golden Boy" when he has zero personality. I mean, this might actually be my favorite Colby out of his 3 seasons so far but it's like comparing watching white paint dry to watching beige paint dry.

Richard Hatch was super enjoyable this time... probably more than he was at any point in Borneo (and I did like him a lot early in Borneo). :clap1:

[JerseyWins]

Shii Ann's reactions right now to Colby lecturing her on how to play. :joker: :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Oh I didn't know Richard actually rubbed against Sue while he was naked in the challenge. :worry: I was too busy focusing on Kathy getting stuck in the middle of it for a few seconds trying to get past them. :joker: Lol @ this entire episode though. :joker: Loving this season.

[JerseyWins]

Yeah, Episode 6 is one hell of an entertaining episode. I actually think part of it is just the simplicity of having only one challenge in an episode... it leaves so much more time for game-related stuff and even just general camp life moments that's tougher to fit in with two long challenges. (plus no tribal council which honestly I could do with shorter TC's; they're not something that typically entertain me that much)

I feel kinda bad for Sue and overall I prefer her in All Stars over Borneo as she was barely annoying and usually relatively funny this time around. However, self-destructing and exploding on her way out was the PERFECT way for her to go. :joker: (minus the alleged sexual harrassment/assault)

Oh, and Boston Rob is still my favorite this season. I feel like I haven't been mentioning Boston Rob enough but he has his highlights every episode. :clap1:

[LukeB]

Re-watching South Pacific (thanks to a online wheel decider) and Stacey is amazing :love:

I do wish she called Coach Benjamin to his face to make him mad :fan:
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Stacey/Brandon/Edna/Cochran are my favourites.

[LukeB]

I also don't like Ozzy this season(South Pacific), he is so miserable and unbearable

[LukeB]

Cochran flipping :love:

Ozzy and Jim are soo soo awful.

[LukeB]

Re-watched South Pacific

1.Cochran
2.Brandon Hantz
3.Stacey Powell
4.Edna Ma
5.Christine Shields Markoski
6.Elyse Umemoto
7.Sophie Clarke
8.Dawn Meehan
9.Semhar Tadesse
10.Albert Destrade
11.Coach
12.Mikayla Wingle
13.Mark Caruso
14.Rick Nelson
15.Whitney Duncan
16.Keith Tollefson
17.Ozzy Lusth
18.Jim Rice

I still find it meh as i did with my first watch. ok winner and some moments but did nothing for me. Redemption island twist is awful like Ozzy only got to final 4 because of it.voted out 3 times overall but then again he didn't get a lot of air time while he was at RI which was great since he was insufferable to watch. Stacey was taken too soon who might have been my #1 if she lasted longer and gave more great moments. Cochran wasn't even one of my favourites last time but i found him great this time and him flipping was my favourite moment of the season. Cochran would have been 7th either way so him flipping made no difference to his game but his tribe's game was awful since they treated him like crap and he wouldn't have cost them their games if they was nicer to him. Can't expect someone you treat like **** to stay loyal.

did a rank sheet for it too.
http://i.imgur.com/cg4bD9i.png

[Raph]

Elyse :lovedup:

[Macie Lightfoot]

what is an Elyse.

[JerseyWins]

Finally got around to watching 2 more episodes of All Stars last night (definitely the longest gap I've had in between episodes since I started my Survivor watch).

I kinda forgot the highlights since I didn't immediately comment but I don't think there actually were too many tbh. :think: I was liking Kathy, Shii-Ann, Rob, Tom a lot. Ethan was up there among my favorites this season again. :( Jerri is maybe slightly less annoying but not by a whole lot. Not much to say on actual events in the episodes because it was pretty boring which is a shame since the last episode I stopped on was a very good one.

[JerseyWins]

Finally catching up on a few more episodes of All Stars. On the finale now, not sure if I'll watch it right now but: This season was pretty solid pre-merge (or at least decent) but it's gotten boring after the merge. I've also taken forever to watch this season but that's mostly due to being busy + BBCAN5/Survivor Game Changers keeping me occupied (however, finding it boring probably didn't help). This season will be one of my worst overall I think but not worse than Vanuatu / South Pacific / Cook Islands and not sure if I'm forgetting any one of my other least favorite seasons. Oh yeah Thailand too that might be the worst season ever.

Despite a few flops, these early seasons that I waited to watch last in my Survivor watch haven't been bad but I think they are overrated if most of them are rated as best of all time seasons(?). Amazon & Pearl Islands were the only GREAT pre-AS seasons but there were a few others that at least were decent to pretty good so I'm also not saying they were bad to watch at all.

[JerseyWins]

I actually like everyone that was left in the end too (Kathy, Alicia, Shii Ann, Tom, Rob, Jenna, Amber ok, even Rupert is ok - probably my favorite version of Rupert even though he's still not great. The season just hasn't been too eventful.

[JerseyWins]

All Stars Ranking

1. Jenna L (soooooo lovable; one of my major all-time favs from the early seasons)
2. Ethan (really likable, probably even more than in Africa, all-time fav)
3. Boston Rob (not as good as in Marquesas or RI though, but his only bad season was HvV)
4. Tom (can hardly understand him but find him hilarious anyway lol)
5. Shii Ann (another all-time favorite, excellent in both seasons)
6. Richard (even better than Richard at any point in Borneo without any annoyances this time)
7. Rudy (very funny... I feel like I appreciate him more as a character now and it even gives me more of a new view of him in Borneo as well)
8. Alicia (all-around solid, very rootable for me both seasons)
9. Susan (more of the early peak Borneo Sue Hawk)
11. Rob C (I like him but not as entertaining or relevant this time around)
10. Jenna M (likable but a bit bland this time + early exit)
12. Amber (much better than in AO, I liked her this time but still a bit uninspiring as a character or winner)
13. Rupert (best version of Rupert but nothing special yet again)
14. Kathy (I liked her a lot in parts but then a lot of other times very meh or even borderline annoying)
15. Lex (sort of fun to watch but a little less than in Africa; mostly a bit too OTT tense & annoying (again))
16. Tina (very meh this time but she didn't get much screen time obviously so it could just be that since I liked her in her other two seasons)
17. Jerri (not as bad, I'd almost say she fits the orange color more this time but I still just don't really like her)
18. Colby (absolutely boring & painful to watch x3)

[JerseyWins]

Also, I knew Amber wins but had no idea it was against Rob in the end. Towards the end of the season I started to feel like that would be the case although I could've seen an Amber/Jenna final 2 as well. Anyway, I do think Rob should've had his first win in All Stars already but oh well. At least it went to the same family either way. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

I decided to watch the reunion too which I rarely do and daaaamn this one is good!!! :laugh3: So many big reactions from the crowd & great discussions... probably better than the actual season lol.

[JerseyWins]

On the season where we see the best alliance of all time
http://insidesurvivor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/BlackWidow.png
https://i.gyazo.com/45439547059b6c53b8e3188fade3f4e2.png

That's more like it :love:


(I know this post was from months and months ago but I'm just looking back in this thread to get my rankings from previous seasons in preparation for the All-Time Survivor Rankings thing that I'll be hosting - everyone stay tuned for that after the Game Changers finale)

[JerseyWins]

8th person voted out of the tribe of season 8, my favourite number. Well done to Ethan!! With Lex and Ethan's gameplay styles, really makes me want to watch season 3: Africa.

End of episode 8 rankings:

1. Ethan - What a graceful exit.
2. Lex
3. Shii-Ann
4. Kathy
5. Jenna L
6. Rupert
7. Rob M
8. Amber
9. Alicia
10. Tom
11. Jerri

Yesss @ Ethan. :clap1: Did you ever watch Africa? Not my favorite season but it was fine and you definitely get to see more of Ethan & Lex's gameplay.

[JerseyWins]

Sooooo I'm gonna do a Cagayan re-watch since I'm in the mood for some Survivor and this was the season I've seen longest ago + my favorite.

I'm all over the place with watching RTV shows lately... from watching BBUS2 (and not finishing it) to deciding to start watching BBUK (which I will continue) to now re-watching a Survivor season. :joker:

I'm enjoying this so much already though and I'm about a third through the premiere.

So far I'm liking Lindsey & Brice more than I remembered. :think: Not sure if I originally liked them more at first last time as well.

Tony: If I was in Trish's shoes, there'd only be one bag of rice and one immunity idol in my pocket :joker:

OMG the scene where Sarah questions Tony about if he's a cop. :love: :love: :love:

[JerseyWins]

I forgot Kass was on the wrong end of the first vote. :joker:

But damn David was bad at this game. Jeff: "So he's not going anywhere?"@Garrett; David: Not tonight. :skull:

[JerseyWins]

The Trish/Lindsey beef... soo good on both ends already. :joker: :joker: :joker: Why/how is Lindsey so much better than I remembered? Her impression of Trish lmao.

The creation of the spy shack :love:

J'Tia choking so bad with the puzzle in the IC. :laugh3:

Actually now I think I'm remembering that I did LOVE the entire brawn tribe at first the last time I watched too and then I liked people like Lindsey/Sarah/maybe Cliff less later on.

The "open forum" on who to vote out & Garrett basically just saying he doesn't want to play Survivor anymore.
Tasha: THEN QUIT!

:joker:

*J'Tia dumps all the rice*
J'Tia: I'm like the mental patient and you left the mental patient alone and I went crazyyy :skull:

Kass: How did we come up with the criteria for Brains? I'd like to see that data. :joker:

This season is better than half the seasons of Survivor on the first episode alone. :worship:

[JerseyWins]

Messy Tony in the beginning of episode 2 with the Cliff/Lindsey lie :love:

[JerseyWins]

Tony: Lindsey said *high pitch voice* "But I liiiiike Saraaah, I liiiike Saraaah" and Cliff was the one like *deep voice* "aye shorty it's a game you gotta be focused" :joker:

Sarah: We shook on it today, it was the most sincere handshake you'll ever have in your life so I trust him 110%
Tony: I don't trust nooobody here. None of them!

Eh I guess I view Brice similarly as I always did (if I remember correctly), just sort of ok. He kinda burns out quickly (entertainment-wise and obviously results-wise).

I'm enjoying this so much like it's my first time watching it. :joker:

Ranking them unbiasedly as if I've only seen them in these 2 episodes (as much as I can):

1. Tony
2. Sarah
3. Lindsey
4. Trish
5. Alexis
6. Woo
7. Jeremiah
8. Kass
9. Jefra
10. Garrett
11. Spencer (he's really not bad at first; maybe even my type of character but I do end up disliking him towards the end - and disliking him throughout Cambodia)
12. Brice
13. J'Tia
14. Cliff
15. Tasha
16. LJ
17. David
18. Morgan

[JerseyWins]

:joker: :joker: :joker: @ Sarah wanting Cliff out so badly all because of Tony's lie :love:

Woo is really coming into his own in episode 3. Probably when I started to be amazed by Woo. :love:

J'Tia is oook for sure. I think I found more humor in her upon re-watch. :joker:

[JerseyWins]

The blossoming of LJ & Trish :love:

Lmaoooo @ Lindsey's reaction to Trish's "fake laugh when she's around men." :joker: Lindsey is actually really funny I don't remember this.

[JerseyWins]

The messy beauty tribe on the brains/beauty merged tribe. :love:

Also Alexis :love: :love: :love: Not sure why but I'm reeeally appreciating even the characters I felt like I didn't care for originally.

[JerseyWins]

Trish's evil laugh in her confessional about the Cliff vote. :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull: :skull: :love:

Tony: "Idk if she's bipolar, schizo, I don't know what she is but.." :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Cliff is probably the one boring castaway on this season. :think:

Lindsey & Woo's reaction to Cliff going :joker:

Every episode on this season is great. :clap1: (in fact episode 3 was probably the one episode out of the first 4 that wasn't amazing)

[JerseyWins]

Post-Cliff Trish vs. Lindsey is ICONIC

[JerseyWins]

"Turned the head, the body followed. Right out the exit door. And it was a beautiful thing. Two for the price of one." It's not even that great of a confessional but Tony's expressions and demeanor make everything amazing :love:

Tony giving the old worthless HII clue to Jeremiah :love:

*Tony's tribe wins the IC*
Tony: TOP FIVE! TOP FIVE TOP FIVE!
Sarah: I guess I'm moving on and I'll make a new alliance. O_O

This episode really illustrates how Tony's a great player AND how he's a messy player even more lol. I honestly think he'd do terrible in more seasons than he'd do great in. :joker:

Alexis' boot </3 I think she might even be in my TOP FIVE this time around but maybe I'll just like others more later on.

[RileyH]

I've never seen Survivor before

[JerseyWins]

Ok time for the merge episode :love:

I've never seen Survivor before
You need to get started then!

[JerseyWins]

This is where Chaos Kass really breaks through. :joker:

Contrarily, this is when Spencer truly starts to suck lol.

[JerseyWins]

The constant Sarah/Kass altercations this episode. :joker:

Kass: I know she's about to destroy the game. If she's gonna destroy the game, I wanna have the preemptive strike, I want to destroy it. :laugh3:

Sarah: @Tony "He's just like me. And I would get rid of me if I could." :joker:

Spencer: Kass, 0 chance to win the game :smug: *Tony mocking him right next to him :laugh3:*

What a beautiful TC. :love: (this could've went sooo sooo bad if it wasn't for Chaos Kass :joker: :love:)

The pre-merge (+first episode of the merge) is the best series of episodes of all time without a doubt and I'm pretty sure the post-merge stays that way but I'll continue to refresh my memory. I'm enjoying this re-watch even way more than basically all of my first watches of Survivor (and that's saying something because I do like a majority of Survivor seasons).

[JerseyWins]

Gonna go straight on to the (also amazing) immunity idol hunt episode.

How many times is Morgan going to say "I don't mean to sound conceited" or "this sounds conceited but" ? :skull: I'd muuuch rather just see her be conceited without keep saying this.

The idol hunt is seriously such a legendary moment. Woo :worship:

Tony: You know it's bad if Morgan, the girl who you can't tell is a pillow or a person because she doesn't do anything, you know it's serious when she's up on her ass looking for this idol. :joker:

Yup, another great episode... there actually hasn't been a bad one.

[rk3388]

That season <3 Trish, Tasha, Spencer, TONY, Woo, Morgan and J'Tia all deliver imo

Imagine if the beauty tribe actually had personality- that probably would have made it the best season

[JerseyWins]

That season <3 Trish, Tasha, Spencer, TONY, Woo, Morgan and J'Tia all deliver imo

Imagine if the beauty tribe actually had personality- that probably would have made it the best season
I feel like practically the whole cast delivers tbh whether I like the character or not. :clap1:

[reece(:]

Jefra and the Horse Whisperer delivered sweet F all

[TomC]

Jefra and the Horse Whisperer delivered sweet F all

Oh come on Jefra is a babe. Jefra <3 Brice was okay too, the other four suck. I honestly don't understand why Morgan is so popular?

[RileyH]

You need to get started then!

But there's so many :bawling:

[TomC]

But there's so many :bawling:

You'll watch it and you'll enjoy it!

Yeah 34 seasons sounds daunting but take it slowly and enjoy it. It's one of the best shows ever made. I'm 31 seasons through I've been watching for like 14 months and I'm sad it's nearly over

[RileyH]

You'll watch it and you'll enjoy it!

Yeah 34 seasons sounds daunting but take it slowly and enjoy it. It's one of the best shows ever made. I'm 31 seasons through I've been watching for like 14 months and I'm sad it's nearly over

:omgno::omgno:

Are the first seasons good? I know nothing about them either so at least I won't know results :hehe:

[TomC]

:omgno::omgno:

Are the first seasons good? I know nothing about them either so at least I won't know results :hehe:

The early seasons are the best in some ways. Would recommend. Season 1 is really enjoyable.

[RileyH]

wow Jeff is a cutie :flutter:

[RileyH]

Sonja </3

I loved ha :bawling:

[JerseyWins]

Lol I just saw Woo in a random Citi Pay Masterpass commercial. :love:

[Macie Lightfoot]

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not sure why I rewatched this today but I did :love:

[VanessaFeltz.]

I am only rewatching one world because i am trying to do edgic lol. S24 looks very weird rn compared to chaotic modern seasons

Edgic order shows the boot order
https://i.imgur.com/6xt7xI4.png

[JerseyWins]

Sonja </3

I loved ha :bawling:
Not you giving up on Survivor already but watching like 6 BB shows :worry:

Start with S29 Cagayan!!! It'll get you hooked :flutter:

Reading through the last page of this thread reminded me how absolutely amazing that Cagayan re-watch even was. :( I should've finished it but then I got busy & lazy. :bored: I almost want to re-re-watch the pre-merge to the merge. :joker:

[RileyH]

Not you giving up on Survivor already but watching like 6 BB shows :worry:

Start with S29 Cagayan!!! It'll get you hooked :flutter:

Reading through the last page of this thread reminded me how absolutely amazing that Cagayan re-watch even was. :( I should've finished it but then I got busy & lazy. :bored: I almost want to re-re-watch the pre-merge to the merge. :joker:

I'll try but I just can't seem to get into it tbh

[VanessaFeltz.]

I actually like Bill lol idgi why he was hated, i think he is the only likable person so far lmao

Colton and Tarzan tho <3

[reece(:]

Let Monica live

[VanessaFeltz.]

Let Monica live

Monica is a good utrp character as well <3 queen

I am screaming at Tarzan's existence <3 i think he is easily the best character of the season so far.

https://i.imgur.com/ccZeKP6.png

[MB.]

Don't let Colton live

[JerseyWins]

Let the horror Alicia live :love:

[VanessaFeltz.]

I feel bad for saying this but my top 3 are Tarzan, Colton and Alicia lmao

Kim is as boring as i remember her to be.

[JerseyWins]

Yeah definitely pretty boring. :joker: She's fine though, good player. :clap1:

I expect to see her return soon enough.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Kat's boot episode and her ponderosa episode has got to be the best thing i have ever seen in my whole entire life < 3

"I left before Christina and TARZAN like you are you kidding me i am so PISSED"

"Blindsides are always funny and exciting" *gets voted out* *cries*

"Tricking BITCHES"

Her crying on troyzan's shoulders while screaming something about christina <3

Seriously imagine if you left before Christina and Tarzan (Kat didnt do much better ik but she was still better than them alol) i would probably be depressed.

[VanessaFeltz.]

screaming at tarzan wearing kat's clothes and camera focusing on kat crying < 3

[JerseyWins]

At least Kat made it to jury :love:

[VanessaFeltz.]

Kat saying that she will BEG jeff to come back so she can redeem herself then flop even harder alol

https://imgur.com/D4ppSvk

[VanessaFeltz.]

https://i.imgur.com/D4ppSvkg.png alol i was BIASED towards kims edit obvs since i knew she won

[JerseyWins]

Ugh I wish Alicia made a power move late in the game and then demanded the jury to give her the win. :love: http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/a3515c9c160296d8021ffda9c02506f64bb72b7_r.gif

[VanessaFeltz.]

Ugh I wish Alicia made a power move late in the game and then demanded the jury to give her the win. :love: http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/a3515c9c160296d8021ffda9c02506f64bb72b7_r.gif

ugh she was the only person that mattered post merge :hee::hee:

[Headie]

Alicia was trash and I won’t hear otherwise

[Headie]

Christina was the best thing about One World

[VanessaFeltz.]

Christina was the best thing about One World

christina as a person :lovedup::lovedup::lovedup:

christina as a player - new york leaves gif

[JerseyWins]

Alicia was trash and I won’t hear otherwise
Christina was the best thing about One World
http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/a3515c9c160296d8021ffda9c02506f64bb72b7_r.gif

[JerseyWins]

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:skull:

[VanessaFeltz.]

^^ :joker::joker::joker::joker:

I am gonna start watching another game changer fan favourite season

yeah it is time to watch survivor caramoan (FvF2) :hehe:

[JerseyWins]

I plan on re-watching one or two Survivor seasons when I buy CBS all access for the Celebrity BB season. Which season(s) though... idk :think:

Probably one of the first few I watched. Maybe Caramoan just because now I'll be watching while already knowing who the favorites tribe are unlike when I first watched. It's also a season I'm unsure about since I loved it while watching but don't feel like I remember it all that well in hindsight.

Possibly Worlds Apart too so that I get a final verdict on how great (or not) Rodney was in that.

[TomC]

YKPemDKn7Yc

:skull:

ahahahhahahhahahhahah