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Mokka
03-06-2016, 01:34 PM
I will be watching Forrest Gump tonight :love:
Oh good :hehe:
I couldn't last weekend and felt bad
This weekend for sure :thumbs:
Braden
04-06-2016, 09:59 PM
:p
I'm definitely going to jump on the Forrest Gump train tomorrow. It's just been so hectic travelling back and forth from uni for my exam and then coming home for Summer.
_Tom_
04-06-2016, 10:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/SYklEls.png?1
:shocked:
Mokka
04-06-2016, 10:17 PM
I know Tom...this is why I haven't found the time :worry:
A timeless classic
The soundtrack is one of, if not the best of any film.
rubymoo
05-06-2016, 09:11 PM
Forrest Gump review:
I love this film!
Tom Hanks is an amazing actor, he's one of my favourite actors, my favourite moments have to be where Lieutenant Dan is having a row with God during a hurricane, i connected with this as i'm sure most of us (i know i have!) have felt like we've ended up with a raw deal in life! I love the fact that no matter what he loves Jenny, his heart truly belongs with Jenny, and i loved Sally Field as his mum, it broke my heart when she told him so matter of fact that she were dying:bawling: I also loved the genius moments (that he was the inspiration for the sayings "**** happens" and "have a nice day!") this movie always leaves me full of admiration for Forrest yet it also leaves me feeling a little sad, but then i guess that's life! There's just so many great moments throughout this film, i found it a joy to watch from beginning to end. My favourite quote has to be :
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This movie is flawless and gets a full 10/10 :hee:
And the soundtrack is brilliant :thumbs:
Braden
05-06-2016, 10:11 PM
Watching now :amazed:
I didn't know the iconic quote of the film is at the very beginning :o
Braden
05-06-2016, 11:16 PM
I'm just over an hour into this film and I adore it :love:
Ross.
05-06-2016, 11:18 PM
Am I allowed to join or is this an exclusive club :ninja2:
Braden
06-06-2016, 12:28 AM
It's not exclusive, Ross :p Feel free to join in.
I've just finished watching Forrest Gump. The credits are rolling right now. Such a beautiful film, and I'm so thankful to the person who initially suggested it. I only read the original post looking for one film that stood out and that was the one that stuck out to me. I've always wanted to watch it, and now I finally have :flutter:
I'll post a proper review tomorrow but I definitely itself think it's at least a 9/10.
Mokka
06-06-2016, 12:35 AM
Am I allowed to join or is this an exclusive club :ninja2:
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Am I allowed to join or is this an exclusive club :ninja2:
..it's exclusive to everyone, Ross..and even if it's just for one particular movie as well...just dip in and out with your popcorn any time you may want to...
Jamie89
06-06-2016, 10:25 AM
Am I allowed to join or is this an exclusive club :ninja2:
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Braden
06-06-2016, 12:03 PM
Forrest Gump:
What an incredible film. I was reluctant to watch it because I had no idea it was so long. Every minute was valuable though. The film is so beautiful and so clever, and Forrest is such an adorable character. I adored his relationships (with his Mother, Jenny, Bubba & Lieutenant Taylor).
It's hard to describe what makes the film so amazing, but the storytelling is just incredible. It's great that Forrest is the one narrating his own life story, which is actually the answer to what makes it so incredible. I loved the beginning and the iconic quote of "Life's like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.", which is somewhat arguable since most people know what chocolates they get in a selection box but everyone knows what the idiom implies so whatever :p
I like that Forrest is such an extraordinary character that doesn't necessarily fit in, but I love that he never changes who he is and then people inadvertently grow to love and respect him as a result. That's such an important lesson in life too; never change who you are. You may not fit in, but you can find people who will value you, and the bonus is that the people you don't fit in with might actually come round to liking you in time.
I don't really know what else to say since the film itself is the answer to why it is such a fantastic experience. I woul urge anyone who hasn't watched it to do so. I'm so glad I did. Additionally, I loved the reoccurences throughout the film. Forrest going to The White House to meet the president, the assinations being reported, the cutaways to a different person listening to the story on the bench :love: It was just great. This film has also made me realise how amazing Tom Hanks is. He's a superb actor. Potentially one of my favourites actually.
Rating: 9/10
Favourite moment: Forrest reuniting with Jenny at the anti-war rally in Washington, D.C.
Braden
06-06-2016, 12:07 PM
...forgot to mention how brilliant the soundtrack was, and Sally Field is exceptional in her role as Forrest's mother.
Forrest Gump:
What an incredible film. I was reluctant to watch it because I had no idea it was so long. Every minute was valuable though. The film is so beautiful and so clever, and Forrest is such an adorable character. I adored his relationships (with his Mother, Jenny, Bubba & Lieutenant Taylor).
It's hard to describe what makes the film so amazing, but the storytelling is just incredible. It's great that Forrest is the one narrating his own life story, which is actually the answer to what makes it so incredible. I loved the beginning and the iconic quote of "Life's like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.", which is somewhat arguable since most people know what chocolates they get in a selection box but everyone knows what the idiom implies so whatever :p
I like that Forrest is such an extraordinary character that doesn't necessarily fit in, but I love that he never changes who he is and then people inadvertently grow to love and respect him as a result. That's such an important lesson in life too; never change who you are. You may not fit in, but you can find people who will value you, and the bonus is that the people you don't fit in with might actually come round to liking you in time.
I don't really know what else to say since the film itself is the answer to why it is such a fantastic experience. I woul urge anyone who hasn't watched it to do so. I'm so glad I did. Additionally, I loved the reoccurences throughout the film. Forrest going to The White House to meet the president, the assinations being reported, the cutaways to a different person listening to the story on the bench :love: It was just great. This film has also made me realise how amazing Tom Hanks is. He's a superb actor. Potentially one of my favourites actually.
Rating: 9/10
Favourite moment: Forrest reuniting with Jenny at the anti-war rally in Washington, D.C.
...awww, that moment when he and Jenny were reunited at the war rally was so incredubly touching and emotional..:lovedup:..one of my favourites as well, Braden..also because it wasn't actually heard what his 'there is only one thing that I can really say about the war..' ..and ..'that's all I have to say about the war', were..:laugh:...that somehow built up to the moment of him and Jenny's meeting again...also funny that the crowd couldn't hear him at all, yet were still totally silent and mesmerised by him..that's how much he captivated people..:flutter:...
...for your pleasure, Braden...
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Braden
06-06-2016, 12:41 PM
...awww, that moment when he and Jenny were reunited at the war rally was so incredubly touching and emotional..:lovedup:..one of my favourites as well, Braden..also because it wasn't actually heard what his 'there is only one thing that I can really say about the war..' ..and ..'that's all I have to say about the war', were..:laugh:...that somehow built up to the moment of him and Jenny's meeting again...also funny that the crowd couldn't hear him at all, yet were still totally silent and mesmerised by him..that's how much he captivated people..:flutter:...
...for your pleasure, Braden...
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I loved it so much, Ammi. Thank you for posting that video :love: The whole scene was so Forrest-centered that I was shocked when Jenny ran through the Reflecting Pool. It was just so lovely, and I adore that Jenny changed so many times throughout her life but Forrest (somewhat) stayed the same and she still loved him regardless of who/where she was at the time.
I loved it so much, Ammi. Thank you for posting that video :love: The whole scene was so Forrest-centered that I was shocked when Jenny ran through the Reflecting Pool. It was just so lovely, and I adore that Jenny changed so many times throughout her life but Forrest (somewhat) stayed the same and she still loved him regardless of who/where she was at the time.
...oh another favourite moment..(there are too, too many..)..was the ending when little Forrest got on the school bus and it was still the same driver../and he introduced himself...:love:..
DrunkerThanMoses
06-06-2016, 01:12 PM
Sorry Ive been busy working so might have to give this one a miss and watch the next one. I have seen Forest Gump before.
What is the next film anyway?
Braden
06-06-2016, 01:13 PM
...oh another favourite moment..(there are too, too many..)..was the ending when little Forrest got on the school bus and it was still the same driver../and he introduced himself...:love:..
That was a great touch too. I loved the white feather floating to Forrest's feet like it did at the beginning. You're so right though. There are too many great moments throughout the film. It truly is a classic :love:
The amount times I said "Run Forrest, run!" was quite amusing :p
Mokka
06-06-2016, 06:17 PM
Forrest Gump: The review-
I had all sorts of quotes and moments I loved typed up...but I clicked something and they disappeared :facepalm:
But I think it's for the best because at the end of it all I became introspective anyways. I was kind of dreading rewatching this... I don't know why though, I have seen it at least half a dozen times now, and still I forget how magical some of the moments are. But my perspective of the movie changes each time. This time, I was really struck by Forrest's simplistic loyalty and love for the people in his life. It made me wish I had that... but I think my life has been as rocked around as Jenny's and I envy her having Forrest for the whole time... and am sad she only got her **** together near the end to realize it. It is a beautiful and witty and flawlessly done movie on every level
9.5/10 for me
rubymoo
07-06-2016, 05:57 AM
Forrest Gump: The review-
I had all sorts of quotes and moments I loved typed up...but I clicked something and they disappeared :facepalm:
But I think it's for the best because at the end of it all I became introspective anyways. I was kind of dreading rewatching this... I don't know why though, I have seen it at least half a dozen times now, and still I forget how magical some of the moments are. But my perspective of the movie changes each time. This time, I was really struck by Forrest's simplistic loyalty and love for the people in his life. It made me wish I had that... but I think my life has been as rocked around as Jenny's and I envy her having Forrest for the whole time... and am sad she only got her **** together near the end to realize it. It is a beautiful and witty and flawlessly done movie on every level
9.5/10 for me
This happened to me too :shocked: i thought it was just me hitting the wrong key on the keyboard :laugh:
rubymoo
07-06-2016, 05:59 AM
I'll echo what DTM has asked......any suggestions for the next film?
I'll suggest One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest:hee:
..I don't mind so will go with whatever is suggested, Ruby and Jon...
Niamh.
07-06-2016, 09:32 AM
I'll suggest Top Gun :hee:
rubymoo
09-06-2016, 08:15 PM
Shall we go for Niamh's Top Gun?
...I'm cool with Top Gun as the next watch..or if it's going to be a struggle to fit the movies during BB Season... if it's thought to be a good idea to put it on hold atm..?..
DrunkerThanMoses
13-06-2016, 09:40 AM
I will try and watch Top Gun this week :)
Niamh.
13-06-2016, 09:43 AM
Yeah I'll try and get it watched this week too
Mokka
12-07-2016, 01:13 AM
I know it's been almost a month since we set Top Gun... and BBUK and BBUS and Love Island have kept everyone full on the watching the boob tube front... but I think I will watch Top Gun tonight...
Tired of too much "reality" tv and need more 80's movies in my life imo :fan:
Walter White
12-07-2016, 01:30 AM
I know it's been almost a month since we set Top Gun... and BBUK and BBUS and Love Island have kept everyone full on the watching the boob tube front... but I think I will watch Top Gun tonight...
Tired of too much "reality" tv and need more 80's movies in my life imo :fan:
:laugh: I'll watch it when I wake up in the morning.
Niamh.
12-07-2016, 09:14 AM
Oh I forgot about this, I'm off to Spain this week so it'll probably have to wait till I get back
Cherie
12-07-2016, 09:54 AM
Oh I forgot about this, I'm off to Spain this week so it'll probably have to wait till I get back
Enjoy Niamh :love:
Niamh.
12-07-2016, 09:56 AM
Enjoy Niamh :love:
Thanks Cherie, looking forward to a bit of sun since I think our summer has already ended :bawling:
Cherie
12-07-2016, 09:59 AM
Thanks Cherie, looking forward to a bit of sun since I think our summer has already ended :bawling:
Yeah much the same here, and we usually get good summers, we are off on Tuesday so not far behind you!
Niamh.
12-07-2016, 10:00 AM
Yeah much the same here, and we usually get good summers, we are off on Tuesday so not far behind you!
To Spain as well?
..on the recommendation of James and also because a sequel has been announced as a definite..(and because I've never seen it..)...I'm adding Trainspotting to the list as well...
Cherie
27-07-2016, 05:02 AM
To Spain as well?
Si Señora
Braden
27-07-2016, 08:06 AM
..on the recommendation of James and also because a sequel has been announced as a definite..(and because I've never seen it..)...I'm adding Trainspotting to the list as well...
Yes! Trainspotting is a must, it's one of my favourite films and I adore it. I can't wait for the sequel :love:
James
08-11-2016, 01:11 AM
Just finished Good Will Hunting... I had forgot why I loved this film so much... all the little bits that make up the whole of it. We were constantly reminded in media this last year with Matt Damon that this was his first Oscar win... him and Ben Affleck... and it starts to get old, the whole boy wonders bit over this movie... but when you watch it and think about what they put in there, the depth of even just the minor scenes... yeah, this was an impressive movie for them to write and act in.
favourite quotes:
Will (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000354/?ref_=tt_trv_qu): Do you like apples?
Clark (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936001/?ref_=tt_trv_qu): Yeah.
Will (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000354/?ref_=tt_trv_qu): Well, I got her number. How do you like them apples?
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Sean (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000245/?ref_=tt_trv_qu): [to his class] See you Monday. We'll be talking about Freud and why he did enough cocaine to kill a small horse.
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Will (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000354/?ref_=tt_trv_qu): What is this, a Taster's Choice moment between guys?
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Sean (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000245/?ref_=tt_trv_qu): People call those imperfections, but no, that's the good stuff.
Sean (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000245/?ref_=tt_trv_qu): You're not perfect, sport, and let me save you the suspense: this girl you've met, she's not perfect either. But the question is whether or not you're perfect for each other.
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and this moment/scene broke my heart a little
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..Good Will Hunting...
..I found it really difficult not to feel extremely emotional through parts of the movie...obviously because of Robin Williams himself but also because it seemed even more poignant now in thinking that how his character felt about his wife would maybe be how his own wife could be feeling..and also with my own mum because she's never been able to get beyond my dad's death and losing him...the part where he told Will the little funny story and then said that with the millions of funny/lovely memories etc, what he felt most was the sadness of her death...just heart-breaking and something that many people would relate to...also such an intense moment in it when they both shared their 'parent' stories, which finally 'released Will' from so much...
...re- watching it also reminded me of how much it was one of those movies that felt a little 'un-finished' in that it left you wondering how his life was going to be in choosing love as it were...would his gift still be something that was part of his life as well, would it all work out for him and Skylar etc...and I always think it's such a good sign when I get so absorbed and involved in characters like that...great movie, great cast and a general 9/10 on the film scale, I think...
Good Will Hunting
So I rewatched it with my daughter and she loved it, for me it was even better than i remembered. Robin Williams is so good in it but his character has such a sadness about him that i feel might have been close to how Robin felt alot of times himself, maybe that's why on this watch it felt more emotional?
Anyway, great film, great writing by Matt Damon and Ben Affleck too.
Loved, loved Loved it
9.5/10
I think my main problem before watching this film is I despise Ben Aflleck so was not looking forward to the fact he starred in it, let alone co wrote it. Thankfully he was hardly in the movie and lets be honest Damon probably wrote most of the film so I am just going to pretend Ben Afleck had nothing to do with the movie.
Overall it was a good film. Williams, Damon, Driver and Skarsgard were all great, and it was nice to see Williams in a serious role and different from his usually comedy parts. I was intrigued by most of the characters; strangely I liked Skarsgard and Williams more together and Damon and Driver together more than Damon and Williams characters.
I liked it and Damon did a decent job on the script, but I found myself getting bored towards the end,plus with the fact Ben Affleck (his character had no purpose at all in this movie) was in it I rate it a bit lower - 3/5
Good Will Hunting
I thought it was ok, but I didn't really enjoy it overall. There were some good moments (my favourite scene was probably the emotional one between Will and Skylar in the bedroom) but overall I found it slightly boring. I can appreciate a lot of the complexities in it, but I was never really intruiged, and I just didn't care enough about Will or most of the other characters.
I enjoyed Robin Williams a lot though, he really was an incredible actor and I'm glad I've seen this film just to see his performance in it. It's probably one of the best performances/characterisations I've seen, it's just that overall the film wasn't really for me. I'll give it 6/10.
It was kind of the other way round for me. I preferred the last half of the film to the first half. I was actually tempted to give up halfway through but I kept going because I wanted to see Williams' full performance. (And you're not alone with the Affleck hate, I don't know why but I can't stand him haha!)
I loved that bit :joker:
It's difficult talking in spoilers :laugh:
Just watched Good Will Hunting......
This is the first time i've seen this film and i have to admit i was transfixed from the opening scene to the ending, it is a brilliant film and i have to admit that i cried at the part where Sean was telling Will that it wasn't his fault, my heart felt like it were breaking. I felt so sad for Sean as it was apparent that he's quite clearly not come to terms with the death of his wife, i loved how he spoke with so much love and adoration for his wife and the fact he wouldn't change a thing with his life. I felt that in a sense Will helped Sean with his grief, just as Sean helped Will move on. You understand at the beginning of the film that Will has suffered trauma in his childhood and it becomes apparent just how much he was abused as the film goes on, Damon was outstanding playing the part of Will. Just as Williams was outstanding playing the part of Sean. I also got teary when Afflecks character went to pick Will up and he wasn't there #end of an era. What i loved most about this film is the outstanding acting, my favourite scenes were between Williams and Damon. They were intense. It also made me feel sad knowing that we won't get to see the amazing Robin Williams in anymore films:( 10/10
I never rated when I posted... but I say 9/10 for Good Will Hunting
and as for Classic, i think it can mean any one of the things Ruby listed, and as long as it is something us easy going group of movie enthusiasts agree on... lets do it
I wouldn't call Good Will Hunting a classic, decent film maybe, but not classic.
It's not a film I could watch over and over again, I've seen it once, and don't intend to watch it again.
Most reviews on here so far are spot on about the stand-out parts of the film, the main one being Williams performance which is fantastic.
I watched Good Will Hunting. I hadn't seen it before.
It's a good story, with very good acting. I don't know if I would give it a 9/10 or anything like that. I think I've seen other surrogate father-son and genius type films I have liked better.
Maybe it would have been better if Will was older, like later 20s. When I heard they said he had just turned 21, I thought it made it sound like a normal coming-of-age story and he would have worked out what to do with his life anyway, without any help. Also, to be honest, I found some of Will's friends a bit annoying.
I thought the best line of dialogue - or most memorable to me - was the exchange where Ben Affleck's character says he'll wake up one morning and he'll be 50, and still doing the same job, but that's fine.
The scene I found emotional was when Will breaks up with his girlfriend.
Another thing was I found some of the dialogue difficult to hear, with the Boston accents.
I'll try and watch some of the other films on the list.
Mokka
08-11-2016, 02:47 AM
Yes Winter is upon us... it is time to snuggle up with some good movies in the evening...and since James is watching/participating now... i think we should do Trainspotting next...
Who's with me??
Jamie89
08-11-2016, 08:07 AM
Yes Winter is upon us... it is time to snuggle up with some good movies in the evening...and since James is watching/participating now... i think we should do Trainspotting next...
Who's with me??
Yes I'm here for it being revived :clap1: I don't think I've seen Trainspotting so I'm up for watching it.
Niamh.
08-11-2016, 09:43 AM
Yes Trainspotting sounds good, I'm in
..I know it's a busy time for us all and I still have a few TV series to catch up on as well but if anyone does have time.../..what about disregarding the suggested OP movies for the moment and trying to fit a few Christmas classics in../anyone for that..?...
..It's a Wonderful Life...
DrunkerThanMoses
26-11-2016, 08:06 AM
Like that film a lot. Might rewatch it
Like that film a lot. Might rewatch it
..a little bit of an updated version if people preferred would be Jingle All The Way, I think there is a similar-(ish) message in both../although probably in other movies as well...
DrunkerThanMoses
26-11-2016, 08:22 AM
I watched jingle all the way 2 weeks ago :laugh:
...:laugh:..I'll try to find time to watch It's a Wonderful Life this weekend if I can...even if not many have time to watch it also, it's a great way to spend a few hours and contrast the craziness of the hectic times descending on us...:love:..
Natalie.
26-11-2016, 08:45 AM
I've never seen It's a Wonderful Life :love:
I've never seen It's a Wonderful Life :love:
...oooooo, is that a yes from you then Natalie..:love:...
Jamie89
26-11-2016, 11:31 AM
I've not seen It's A Wonderful Life but I'd definitely be interested to watch it!
DrunkerThanMoses
26-11-2016, 12:22 PM
It's on film 4 today at 3:20
...haha, perfect Jon, thank you for that...:love:..I'm going to try to watch it this afternoon...(if I don't get distracted..)...
Firewire
26-11-2016, 02:09 PM
LOVE It's a Wonderful Life :love:
Niamh.
26-11-2016, 03:54 PM
Oh I have that on DVD
Natalie.
26-11-2016, 06:19 PM
...oooooo, is that a yes from you then Natalie..:love:...
definitely :love:
James
27-11-2016, 06:02 PM
I watched It's a Wonderful Life yesterday. I hadn't seen it before.
I will put what I thought in spoilers tags.
Okay, I was watching it and I was thinking that the early scenes where you see George's life are quite cartoonish. Very broad brushes. Of these I liked the scenes to do with his business best, like the 'run on the bank' scene.
The story got interesting for me, without wanting to sound cynical, when he was in trouble and at the end of his tether. And I thought the best bit of the film were the scenes with Clarence, and the way they showed the alternate reality if he had never been born.
The most moving bit for me was the message that Clarence wrote for George on the book which I thought was an uplifting testament to the importance of friendship.
So I'd give it 8/10 I think.
..I watched it on Saturday when it was on TV also..although it wasn't a first watch for me James...
..I agree about the first half../the young George and how carefree he was...seemed almost a bit slapstick/comedy type thing but I guess that was to show the contrast as well how life takes on responsibilities etc...I liked the dance off scene with the swimming pool and was wondering if it had taken a lot of takes and if they'd fallen in several times at the bits they weren't meant to...but the whole scene also just adding and emphasising the slapstick feel...(it was actually quite tense tbh, every time they danced near the edge..)...Mr Potter reminds me of Mr Burns from the Simpsons so I was also thinking of the family as being the Simpsons and George being Homer to Mary's Madge...Clarence is my favourite character, I don't know the actor who played him but just so endearing...:lovedup:...but yeah, maybe a corny message but then Christmas is all about corny really and all about families and friends so really beautiful in a time when commercial wasn't such a thing..:love:...maybe it could be seen as the extended original John Lewis Advertisement...the bit that I might have cried a little bit at was when the house was being filled with so many people whose lives he had touched and who his life had made such a difference to../Mr A was watching rugby in the other room and walked through glancing at me with my pile of tissues and just smiled...:laugh:...anyways a big fat, cheesy and corny 9/10...:love:..
Braden
11-07-2019, 09:27 PM
I loved this thread :flutter:
Tony Montana
11-07-2019, 09:33 PM
This is my kind of thread.
Here for a revival.
Livia
13-07-2019, 12:30 PM
Has everyone seen Twelve Angry Men? One of the most impressive films I've ever seen in my life.
Tony Montana
13-07-2019, 12:41 PM
Has everyone seen Twelve Angry Men? One of the most impressive films I've ever seen in my life.
I've never seen it myself, but it's got very high reviews and is considered one of the greatest films of all time, as well as the greatest courtroom film of all time.
Livia
13-07-2019, 12:42 PM
I've never seen it myself, but it's got very high reviews and is considered one of the greatest films of all time, as well as the greatest courtroom film of all time.
Can't begin to tell you how good it is.
Tony Montana
13-07-2019, 12:49 PM
Can't begin to tell you how good it is.
It must be really good if it has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Rotten Tomatoes rarely give a film a perfect rating too.
Livia
13-07-2019, 12:57 PM
I'm nutty about old films anyway... old Hollywood stuff, British stuff, war films, Ealing etc., even some of the old silent films. Shame they're not more popular these days. I have teenage nieces who wouldn't contemplate watching a black and white film.
I loved this thread :flutter:
This is my kind of thread.
Here for a revival.
...at your request, Tony...:laugh:...I’ll definitely revive this in the Autumn and we can all snuggle down together to enjoy some classics...:love:..
Tony Montana
13-07-2019, 01:26 PM
...at your request, Tony...:laugh:...I’ll definitely revive this in the Autumn and we can all snuggle down together to enjoy some classics...:love:..
Thank you, Ammi. :love:
Looking forward to it. Hopefully there will be a lot of members on this thread.
Tony Montana
13-07-2019, 01:27 PM
I'm nutty about old films anyway... old Hollywood stuff, British stuff, war films, Ealing etc., even some of the old silent films. Shame they're not more popular these days. I have teenage nieces who wouldn't contemplate watching a black and white film.
The only black and white film I've ever watched was ''Tarantula'' as a kid. That scared the **** out of me.
Tony Montana
13-07-2019, 01:35 PM
Oh and 1933's King Kong too. How could I forget that classic.
JerseyWins
13-07-2019, 04:48 PM
Saw 12 Angry Men in school many years ago, it was solid :clap1:
...would anyone have any interest in this starting again atm...?...we could look at whatever Netflix classics are showing atm etc...?...
Vanessa
05-01-2021, 10:36 AM
Yes.
Niamh.
05-01-2021, 11:32 AM
Me!
Braden
05-01-2021, 03:39 PM
I'd love to! I'm starting my MA this month, but I'll try and find time to watch some films.
Loved this last time :love:
Bollo
06-01-2021, 01:25 AM
Yes I'd be into this...Don't know if you are allowed to recommend but Memento is a classic
...:love:...fabulous, we have a movie club and just need a first movie, now...
...Bollo, Memento is an excellent suggestion but I can’t find it as a free option atm...Amazon Prime has a good selection of classics but they’re ones that are payview...(...that’s crazy...)...and so a no, no really...it’s not how we need to be spending money...
...atm...on Netflix...(..I think..)..there is The Truman Show and American Beauty as options..?..
...on Film 4 (All4)...(...but I don’t know if Niamh can get that network in RoI...)...I think there is choices of Castaway, Trainspotting, Withnail and I and Local Hero...probably more, but it’s all I had time to find so far this morning...I don’t know if any of those would be a good first...?..plus any suggestions would be marvellous but they would have to be on a Network we can all access and NO CHARGE, the cheek of them....
Niamh.
06-01-2021, 08:49 AM
I think I have Film 4 and I can go back up to a week of live TV but I don't have a player option on it
James
06-01-2021, 09:30 AM
This is a good site for finding out what is on and where.
https://www.justwatch.com/
...so, just narrowing it down to Netflix atm and stretching out ‘classic’ a little bit...here is a list of possibles...are there any that grab you all..?..
Inception
The Last of the Mohicans
Sucker Punch
Mask
The Truman Show
The Green Mile
Hitch
Snatch
About a Boy
The Terminal
Seven
Zodiac
Panic Room
Falling Down
Close Encounters
The Woman in Black
The Conjuring
Orphan
Zombieland
This is a good site for finding out what is on and where.
https://www.justwatch.com/
...:love:...I’ll look at the site now, James...
...the thing is with some, Amazon Prime for instance, which I’m fairly new to...they’re showing the movie but when you click on it, it’s a pay movie...so many movies that we used to be able to watch on YouTube for free, are now payview...:sad:..
James
06-01-2021, 11:45 AM
...the thing is with some, Amazon Prime for instance, which I’m fairly new to...they’re showing the movie but when you click on it, it’s a pay movie...so many movies that we used to be able to watch on YouTube for free, are now payview...:sad:..
It tells you on Justwatch if a film is free with Amazon Prime. It might be easier to stick with Netflix though.
...so, just narrowing it down to Netflix atm and stretching out ‘classic’ a little bit...here is a list of possibles...are there any that grab you all..?..
Inception
The Last of the Mohicans
Sucker Punch
Mask
The Truman Show
The Green Mile
Hitch
Snatch
About a Boy
The Terminal
Seven
Zodiac
Panic Room
Falling Down
Close Encounters
The Woman in Black
The Conjuring
Orphan
Zombieland
Zodiac (meaning to watch that), The Green Mile, Zombieland. I'd like to see Memento as well but I don't think it is available.
Niamh.
06-01-2021, 11:51 AM
It tells you on Justwatch if a film is free with Amazon Prime. It might be easier to stick with Netflix though.
Zodiac (meaning to watch that), The Green Mile, Zombieland. I'd like to see Memento as well but I don't think it is available.
I watched Memento years ago and I really can't remember anything about it - Ironically :p I would like a re watch of that if we could get somewhere to watch it
...there is a subtitled version of Memento on YouTube...:laugh:...I’m happy to watch Zodiac, The Green Mile or Zombieland as well...I’m not sure that I’ve seen Zodiac, actually...
James
06-01-2021, 11:55 AM
There's some in the list I've seen. I'd watch again for this, but I wouldn't be inclined to otherwise. eg. Hitch, The Terminal and Close Encounters.
DrunkerThanMoses
06-01-2021, 12:36 PM
Im in... I think i got memento on recording ages ago so could go for that one
...I found Memento on this site and it seems like good quality if you can all access it ...?....
https://vimeo.com/194384403
DrunkerThanMoses
06-01-2021, 02:56 PM
Do we have a time limit to watch it?
Niamh.
06-01-2021, 02:57 PM
...I found Memento on this site and it seems like good quality if you can all access it ...?....
https://vimeo.com/194384403
Brilliant Ammi, thanks
Do we have a time limit to watch it?
...we can be fairly chilled really, Jon....we can move on to another movie every few weeks when most have watched...
Vanessa
Niamh
Braden
Bollo
James
DrunkerThanMoses
Ammi
Tony Montana
...watching Memento...
...so, just narrowing it down to Netflix atm and stretching out ‘classic’ a little bit...here is a list of possibles...are there any that grab you all..?..
Inception
The Last of the Mohicans
Sucker Punch
Mask
The Truman Show
The Green Mile
Hitch
Snatch
About a Boy
The Terminal
Seven
Zodiac
Panic Room
Falling Down
Close Encounters
The Woman in Black
The Conjuring
Orphan
Zombieland
NIghtcrawler
Prisoners
DrunkerThanMoses
06-01-2021, 06:48 PM
Ill watch tomorrow night after work if not too tired
Ill watch tomorrow night after work if not too tired
...:love:...I’m looking forward to seeing your thoughts, Jon...
Tony Montana
07-01-2021, 11:53 AM
Count me in. Memento is a film that I've been meaning to watch for a long time. It's considered to be Nolan's best film, even more so than Inception and The Dark Knight so I'm intrigued.
Tony Montana
07-01-2021, 11:54 AM
...so, just narrowing it down to Netflix atm and stretching out ‘classic’ a little bit...here is a list of possibles...are there any that grab you all..?..
Inception
The Last of the Mohicans
Sucker Punch
Mask
The Truman Show
The Green Mile
Hitch
Snatch
About a Boy
The Terminal
Seven
Zodiac
Panic Room
Falling Down
Close Encounters
The Woman in Black
The Conjuring
Orphan
Zombieland
I'd add Nightcrawler and Prisoners to that list. Two amazing Jake Gyllenhaal thriller films. Both 10/10.
Braden
07-01-2021, 12:02 PM
Cool, I'll watch Memento this weekend.
Excited as I haven't watched it in full. I remember having to analyse some of it at school.
...Tony..:love:..I’ve added your movie suggestions as well...I’m not sure that I’ve seen either of those films actually...
...I re-watched Memento yesterday, I will do some thoughts in the next few days...
Vanessa
07-01-2021, 12:44 PM
I found in on YouTube in my language.
Watching it now.
Vanessa
07-01-2021, 08:03 PM
I'll watch it again tomorrow.
I'm still so confused :joker:
Niamh.
08-01-2021, 04:20 PM
Just Finished it
I actually found it very easy to follow, I didn't remember anything about it even though I did watch it years ago but I think I read somewhere recently that it starts at the end so that helped me get in to how the film flowed from the start.
Anyway yes it really is a master piece, better than Inception even and I loved that. Such a clever film. Having that condition must be so **** though.
So he was able to make some memories because he remembered that he killed his wife but he remembered it as Sammy Jankis doing it even invented memories of Sammys imaginery wife.
2 small things that seemed wrong though, he slept on the wrong side of bed, when he was remembering his wife reading in bed she was on the righthand side but when he woke up in bed he was on the righthand side everytime and two when he had Dodd in the wardrobe and he didn't remember why he immediately went to his coat pocket to get his pictures, how would he have known they were there? But yeah that's just nitpicking, brilliant film
Niamh.
08-01-2021, 06:06 PM
I'd add Nightcrawler and Prisoners to that list. Two amazing Jake Gyllenhaal thriller films. Both 10/10.I know I'm in the minority here but I didn't like Nightcrawler at all
Vanessa
08-01-2021, 06:34 PM
Donnie Darko is my favourite movie or Jake Gyllenhaal.
Niamh.
08-01-2021, 06:36 PM
Donnie Darko is my favourite movie or Jake Gyllenhaal.I really liked Source Code
I know I'm in the minority here but I didn't like Nightcrawler at allMe too, I thought it was dump.
Have you all seen "Whiplash" about the Drum teacher and student? That was pretty good.
Niamh.
08-01-2021, 06:46 PM
Have you all seen "Whiplash" about the Drum teacher and student? That was pretty good.Yeah that was good
Vanessa
08-01-2021, 07:02 PM
Minority Report is another favourite of mine.
Niamh.
08-01-2021, 07:04 PM
Minority Report is another favourite of mine.Yeah that's good
Minority Report is another favourite of mine.I've had that on Dvd for about 2 years and still haven't watched it yet, that is something I need to do. Thanks for the reminder.
Vanessa
08-01-2021, 07:07 PM
I've had that on Dvd for about 2 years and still haven't watched it yet, that is something I need to do. Thanks for the reminder.
It's just so good. And a great Colin Farrell in it.
Niamh.
08-01-2021, 07:16 PM
It's just so good. And a great Colin Farrell in it.Weird you mentioning that Film and Colin Farrell being in it because earlier today i walked in to the sitting room and saw Colin Farrell on the TV and for a second I thought it was Minority Report, but it was actually the Total Recall remake
Vanessa
08-01-2021, 07:18 PM
Weird you mentioning that Film and Colin Farrell being in it because earlier today i walked in to the sitting room and saw Colin Farrell on the TV and for a second I thought it was Minority Report, but it was actually the Total Recall remake
Ah yes, I think I watched that one.
..after a second watch...
...I agree with what Niamh has said and it really is a brilliantly done ...I guess on second watch, I watched it quite differently because I was really drawn to thinking about Alzheimer’s, maybe because I have a personal attachment and interest there ...but all through, I was thinking of the movie Still Alice and the sometimes similarities...he tattooed his body (...as well as making his notes...)...and she also made her notes, obviously...as if she could somehow force her memories...?...the bit when he was trying to focus when Natalie left and searching frantically for a pen so that he could write down was so tense and reminded me of a similar scene in Still Alice when she had written down a whole sequence of things in order...but then the phone rang and the whole sequence was lost and broken to her ...so, although his inability to make memories was because of trauma, the story felt quite a lot about mental illness and how that ‘recognition and emotion’ is searched for so desperately...and sometimes it appears to be there but then it’s like an optical illusion because in
a split second it’s gone again, well it was never really there at all ...although it felt quite bleak and emotionless in some ways...how people exploited his situation because he wouldn’t remember anyway, it was also very emotional as well, I felt...it really is a total entrapment within a mind....a great movie with so many layers of thought of a human mind and what’s held in our memories and what if those are lost...all that’s left is a hollow shell...
Niamh.
09-01-2021, 07:14 PM
Also
the way the film was made starting at the end of each scene and working backwards was a really good way of trying to get you in to Lennys mind and how it feels for him
...the use of the black and white filming as well, it was all very well made, an excellent movie...I’m glad that Bollo recommended it...I didn’t associate similarities with Alzheimer’s on first watch or things with Still Alice so it was great to watch it with a different eye and focus as well...
...Bollo, you need to come and watch this...:laugh:..
Niamh.
09-01-2021, 07:51 PM
...the use of the black and white filming as well, it was all very well made, an excellent movie...I’m glad that Bollo recommended it...I didn’t associate similarities with Alzheimer’s on first watch or things with Still Alice so it was great to watch it with a different eye and focus as well... There was literally just an ad on ITV advertising Still Alice, I must watch it
Vanessa
09-01-2021, 08:02 PM
There are quite a few great movies on BBC iPlayer.
There's also The Godfather, one of my all time favourites.
I love Al Pacino.
Niamh.
09-01-2021, 08:18 PM
BBC iplayer only works in the UK though
Vanessa
09-01-2021, 09:03 PM
BBC iplayer only works in the UK though
Oh, I didn't know that!
Vanessa
10-01-2021, 09:24 AM
YouTube also has some great movies.
That's where I watched Memento.
Vanessa
10-01-2021, 06:58 PM
The Godfather trilogy.
James
10-01-2021, 07:35 PM
Memento.
I watched it in two parts, and I thought in between that the twist would be...
He killed his wife.
But not like they showed.
Also
the way the film was made starting at the end of each scene and working backwards was a really good way of trying to get you in to Lennys mind and how it feels for him
Yeah, took me a while to realise that was happening.
Niamh.
10-01-2021, 07:54 PM
Memento.
I watched it in two parts, and I thought in between that the twist would be...
He killed his wife.
But not like they showed.
Yeah, took me a while to realise that was happening.
and that is another thing that's so genius about it, it took you awhile but it starts getting easier to follow once its repeated enough times, just like what Lenny was trying to do to learn by habit rather than actual memory's, such a clever film
James
10-01-2021, 08:06 PM
and that is another thing that's so genius about it, it took you awhile but it starts getting easier to follow once its repeated enough times, just like what Lenny was trying to do to learn by habit rather than actual memory's, such a clever film
I never thought of that. :hehe:
I thought when I realised what was happening that...
They could have shown something like a clock that showed the date, to show you that the events were reversed.
Niamh.
10-01-2021, 08:47 PM
I never thought of that. :hehe:
I thought when I realised what was happening that...
They could have shown something like a clock that showed the date, to show you that the events were reversed.
I think they tried to tell you in the opening scene by actually playing it in reverse and also the Polaroid erasing a little everytime he shakes it instead of becoming clearer is like what's going on with Lenny when his memories start to fade
Also my personal favourite scene was when he's with Dodd and they're both running and his memory fades and he's thinking- Why am I running? I'm chasing this guy. ... No he's chasing me [emoji1787]
Braden
10-01-2021, 08:53 PM
Just finished watching this.
Very clever film! Will write a short review when I've processed it a bit more, haha.
James
10-01-2021, 09:45 PM
I think I didn't pick up on it right away because it is quite a common technique in films to begin with the ending, with the rest of the film being what leads up to it. The two examples that spring to mind are Gandhi and Stanley Kubrick's Lolita.
Also my personal favourite scene was when he's with Dodd and they're both running and his memory fades and he's thinking- Why am I running? I'm chasing this guy. ... No he's chasing me [emoji1787]
Yes, that was a funny scene.
Marsh.
10-01-2021, 09:58 PM
One of my favourites. :love:
Marsh.
10-01-2021, 09:59 PM
There was literally just an ad on ITV advertising Still Alice, I must watch it
Was that not "Finding Alice" starring Keeley Hawes? :hehe:
Niamh.
10-01-2021, 10:10 PM
Was that not "Finding Alice" starring Keeley Hawes? :hehe:Oh maybe it was [emoji1787]
Niamh.
10-01-2021, 10:15 PM
I think I didn't pick up on it right away because it is quite a common technique in films to begin with the ending, with the rest of the film being what leads up to it. The two examples that spring to mind are Gandhi and Stanley Kubrick's Lolita.
Yes, that was a funny scene.I think they did want you to be a bit confused though, like Lenny is. I didn't remember anything about it even though I did watch it years ago but I did read recently that it goes backwards which definitely helped me get into the rhythm of the film quicker. I wish I hadn't read that though so I could see how much difference it would have made to how I viewed it
...I don’t know if I need to watch again because I was focusing so much on associations I was making with Alzheimer’s and the similarities of how Leonard’s world would be in comparison...the main difference really, his being created by a trauma, rather than a disease...but I thought that the black and white scenes were in correct time going forward...so some told in reverse and some not...I do need to watch again and focus on those black and white scenes...maybe that’s how it was Leonard’s mind/memory as well..?....
Vanessa
11-01-2021, 08:56 AM
How about Schindler's List?
It's always been one of my favourite movies and I haven't seen it in a while.
A rewatch is in order.
Niamh.
11-01-2021, 08:59 AM
...I don’t know if I need to watch again because I was focusing so much on associations I was making with Alzheimer’s and the similarities of how Leonard’s world would be in comparison...the main difference really, his being created by a trauma, rather than a disease...but I thought that the black and white scenes were in correct time going forward...so some told in reverse and some not...I do need to watch again and focus on those black and white scenes...maybe that’s how it was Leonard’s mind/memory as well..?....
The black and white scenes were in the right order, I don't think they were being told from Lenny's point of view
...yeah, Lenny’s point of view is obviously what gave us that insight into his world and the whole point of all of his actions...we felt the confusion that he lives since his head trauma..when he was trying to hang on to his his thoughts when Natalie left, we were willing him so much to find that pencil, so gripping....
Braden
11-01-2021, 05:56 PM
Thoughts:
I thought it was a thoroughly enjoyable film. I liked that it was split in two with the chronological black and white and nonlinear colour sequences - it's a brilliant concept, which I've only seen executed somewhat similarly in an episode of Inside No. 9 before watching Memento. It could be a complete mess if it's in the wrong director/producer's hands, which is why we don't see it too much in film because I presume it can be quite complicated to work through.
Guy Pearce is an excellent actor, and the main character was super-rootable, mainly due to his condition. I expected Natalie to have more relevance to the eventual plot twist, but from what I'm reading since watching...she kinda did? I dunno, I think I should probably re-watch it to fully understand the motivation of her character. Teddy was a great character, and it was fun to work out his intentions regarding his relationship and motives with Leonard. I kinda saw through the whole Sammy Jankis thing, only because I thought it was convenient for Leonard to know someone with the same condition with him. There had to be more to it.
All in all, it was an entertaining film to follow with a good cast. Its unique structure helps it stand out and was cleverly executed.
Braden
11-01-2021, 06:02 PM
also,
I particularly liked Leonard's conversation with Teddy about the reliability of facts versus memory, as I learnt quite a bit about that throughout university.
I think, as a society, we rely on memory a bit too much in terms of how we perceive reality. It's a fascinating subject..
also,
I particularly liked Leonard's conversation with Teddy about the reliability of facts versus memory, as I learnt quite a bit about that throughout university.
I think, as a society, we rely on memory a bit too much in terms of how we perceive reality. It's a fascinating subject..
...it is a fascinating subject, Braden...Lenny blocked the processing of tragic facts through his memory condition...I often think of how a story would continue after the cameras stop...:laugh:...and I wonder if there would be a time within the ‘circle’ he had created, when he would be able to fully face his ‘facts’ and be able to live a fully functioning life again, through properly processing it all...
Niamh.
13-01-2021, 01:39 PM
Just back to Memento again, a question for those that watched it :
So, when I finished watching it my understanding of it was that Sammy Jankis was a real person but that the story about his wife never happened to Sammy but to Lenny but I was reading other opinions on line and some people seem to think that Lenny and Sammy were the same person, I don't think that's right because how would he train himself to know his condition so well?
Braden
13-01-2021, 02:46 PM
Just back to Memento again, a question for those that watched it :
So, when I finished watching it my understanding of it was that Sammy Jankis was a real person but that the story about his wife never happened to Sammy but to Lenny but I was reading other opinions on line and some people seem to think that Lenny and Sammy were the same person, I don't think that's right because how would he train himself to know his condition so well?
I feel like it was heavily insinuated that Lenny and Sammy were the same people, but you raise a good point. I'm not sure how he'd remember those details so well if he wasn't real.
Niamh.
13-01-2021, 02:57 PM
I feel like it was heavily insinuated that Lenny and Sammy were the same people, but you raise a good point. I'm not sure how he'd remember those details so well if he wasn't real.
I've also read a theory that Teddy was just lying and Lenny didn't kill his wife at all because Teddy is as unreliable a character as Lenny is(maybe even more so because Lennys memories before the accident should be reliable and he didn't remember his wife as the one with diabetes). Teddy has been lying to and manipulating Lenny all through the movie so why should we believe he's telling him the truth this time and not just blatantly lying to hurt Lenny like Natalie did to him. Yes there was the flash of Sammy in hospital that turned into Lenny but that could have been Lenny being really confused about what's real and what's not real hhhmmmm
I thought the film was straight forward but now I'm confused :laugh:
Braden
13-01-2021, 03:20 PM
I've also read a theory that Teddy was just lying and Lenny didn't kill his wife at all because Teddy is as unreliable a character as Lenny is(maybe even more so because Lennys memories before the accident should be reliable and he didn't remember his wife as the one with diabetes). Teddy has been lying to and manipulating Lenny all through the movie so why should we believe he's telling him the truth this time and not just blatantly lying to hurt Lenny like Natalie did to him. Yes there was the flash of Sammy in hospital that turned into Lenny but that could have been Lenny being really confused about what's real and what's not real hhhmmmm
I thought the film was straight forward but now I'm confused [emoji23]
I thought the same until I started reading things online, lmao.
I swear there was a scene (when Dodd was tied up in the closet) where Teddy pretended to not know who Natalie was. He said something like ‘who’s Natalie, maybe I know her.’
Bollo
13-01-2021, 11:25 PM
OMG guys so sorry! We had two Corona positives in our office and this week has been absolute carnage! I'm fine I'm negative and so is the rest of the office but we've had to deal with the fallout. I finally have a day off tommorrow so i'm going to re watch memento, it's my all time favourite film but I haven't watched it in years...
one of the main things i loved about this film is that you go through it feeling sorry for the main character because of what he's been through and how people treat him, but what i took from this was that his notes/tattoos/ memories skewed all of his actions and that ultimately despite what everything was telling him he was dead set on avenging his wifes death over and over again even if it was the wrong person because he had nothing else to live for and felt massive guilt, so he's stuck in a horrific cycle.... but it's been a while so I will rewatch and revisit
Bollo
14-01-2021, 12:00 AM
I think they tried to tell you in the opening scene by actually playing it in reverse and also the Polaroid erasing a little everytime he shakes it instead of becoming clearer is like what's going on with Lenny when his memories start to fade
Also my personal favourite scene was when he's with Dodd and they're both running and his memory fades and he's thinking- Why am I running? I'm chasing this guy. ... No he's chasing me [emoji1787]
Yes! this is one of my favourite scenes from the movie as well, i love the dark humour :laugh:
..so good that you’re negative, Bollo...hug:....it just feels that so many people we’re closely familiar with are more and more testing positive ...I hope that your work colleagues don’t have too severe symptoms and that they recover well...
...enjoy your day off...:love:..and look forward to hearing your thoughts...
...this gets so confusing with Sammy Jankis...
....if Sammy Jankis wasn’t real, would that not mean that Lenny was actually creating new memories...I mean, he created that Sammy had killed his wife..(...who didn’t exist..)...after his accident to be able to project the events in his life onto Sammy...so was he describing his own condition as not being physical, as in linked to a head injury...but a mental one.../...it’s so confusing ...
Niamh.
14-01-2021, 09:26 AM
I thought the same until I started reading things online, lmao.
I swear there was a scene (when Dodd was tied up in the closet) where Teddy pretended to not know who Natalie was. He said something like ‘who’s Natalie, maybe I know her.’
I must re watch that scene, it does make him a very unreliable source of information though. Also, just to mention the scene at the end again where Sammy in the institute turns into Lenny, don't forget that there's also a scene where Lenny is lying in bed with his wife with a Tattoo saying I Did it in his reserved spot on his chest (and I think all his other tattoos are gone) and that can't be real so why is him in the institute turning from Sammy in to Lenny real?
...I probably should have made another thread for the documentary, sorry to divert...it just seemed to connect at the time ...but maybe not the best thing to have them in the same thread...
Niamh.
14-01-2021, 09:57 AM
...I probably should have made another thread for the documentary, sorry to divert...it just seemed to connect at the time ...but maybe not the best thing to have them in the same thread...
I can move the posts to make a thread for it if you like?
James
14-01-2021, 10:03 AM
I was looking at the Wikipedia page for Memento and it has this graphic about the film's structure.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Memento_Timeline.png/1463px-Memento_Timeline.png
The film is structured with two timelines: color sequences are alternated with black-and-white sequences. The latter are put together in chronological order. The color ones, though shown forward (except for the first one, which is shown in reverse), are ordered in reverse. Chronologically, the black-and-white sequences come first, the color sequences come next.
Using the numbering scheme suggested by Andy Klein—who took numbers from 1 to 22 for the black-and-white sequences and letters A–V for the color ones in his article for Salon magazine[4]—the plotting of the film as presented is: Opening Credits (shown "backward"), 1, V, 2, U, 3, T, 4, S, ..., 22/A, Credits.
There is a smooth transition from the black-and-white sequence 22 to color sequence A and it occurs during the development of a Polaroid photograph.
The chronological order of the story can be viewed as a "Hidden feature" on the 2-Disc Limited Edition Region 1 DVD and the 3-Disc special Edition Region 2 DVD. In this special feature the chapters of the film are put together into the chronological order and is shown: Ending Credits (run in reverse), 1, 2, 3, ..., 22/A, B, ..., V, then the opening title runs "backward" to what was shown (the opening title sequence is run in reverse during the actual film, so it is shown forward in this version).
Stefano Ghislotti wrote an article in Film Anthology which discusses how Nolan provides the viewer with the clues necessary to decode the plot as we watch and help us understand the chronology. The color sequences include a brief overlap to help clue the audience into the fact that they are being presented in reverse order. The purpose of the fragmented reverse sequencing is to force the audience into a sympathetic experience of Leonard's defective ability to create new long-term memories, where prior events are not recalled, since the audience has yet to see them.
Also this is what it says about the portrayal of memory loss.
Scientific response
Many medical experts have cited Memento as featuring one of the most realistic and accurate depictions of anterograde amnesia. Caltech neuroscientist Christof Koch called Memento "the most accurate portrayal of the different memory systems in the popular media", while physician Esther M. Sternberg, Director of the Integrative Neural Immune Program at the National Institute of Mental Health, identified the film as "close to a perfect exploration of the neurobiology of memory."
Sternberg concludes:
This thought-provoking thriller is the kind of movie that keeps reverberating in the viewer's mind, and each iteration makes one examine preconceived notions in a different light. Memento is a movie for anyone interested in the workings of memory and, indeed, in what it is that makes our own reality.
Clinical neuropsychologist Sallie Baxendale writes in The BMJ:
The overwhelming majority of amnesic characters in films bear little relation to any neurological or psychiatric realities of memory loss. Apparently inspired partly by the neuropsychological studies of the famous patient HM (who developed severe anterograde memory impairment after neurosurgery to control his epileptic seizures) and the temporal lobe amnesic syndrome, the film documents the difficulties faced by Leonard, who develops a severe anterograde amnesia after an attack in which his wife is killed. Unlike in most films in this genre, this amnesic character retains his identity, has little retrograde amnesia, and shows several of the severe everyday memory difficulties associated with the disorder. The fragmented, almost mosaic quality to the sequence of scenes in the film also reflects the 'perpetual present' nature of the syndrome.
I can move the posts to make a thread for it if you like?
...thank you...:love:..
I was looking at the Wikipedia page for Memento and it has this graphic about the film's structure.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Memento_Timeline.png/1463px-Memento_Timeline.png
The film is structured with two timelines: color sequences are alternated with black-and-white sequences. The latter are put together in chronological order. The color ones, though shown forward (except for the first one, which is shown in reverse), are ordered in reverse. Chronologically, the black-and-white sequences come first, the color sequences come next.
Using the numbering scheme suggested by Andy Klein—who took numbers from 1 to 22 for the black-and-white sequences and letters A–V for the color ones in his article for Salon magazine[4]—the plotting of the film as presented is: Opening Credits (shown "backward"), 1, V, 2, U, 3, T, 4, S, ..., 22/A, Credits.
There is a smooth transition from the black-and-white sequence 22 to color sequence A and it occurs during the development of a Polaroid photograph.
The chronological order of the story can be viewed as a "Hidden feature" on the 2-Disc Limited Edition Region 1 DVD and the 3-Disc special Edition Region 2 DVD. In this special feature the chapters of the film are put together into the chronological order and is shown: Ending Credits (run in reverse), 1, 2, 3, ..., 22/A, B, ..., V, then the opening title runs "backward" to what was shown (the opening title sequence is run in reverse during the actual film, so it is shown forward in this version).
Stefano Ghislotti wrote an article in Film Anthology which discusses how Nolan provides the viewer with the clues necessary to decode the plot as we watch and help us understand the chronology. The color sequences include a brief overlap to help clue the audience into the fact that they are being presented in reverse order. The purpose of the fragmented reverse sequencing is to force the audience into a sympathetic experience of Leonard's defective ability to create new long-term memories, where prior events are not recalled, since the audience has yet to see them.
Also this is what it says about the portrayal of memory loss.
...I was thinking how good it would be if someone edited all of the scenes to put it all in order from start to finish....would we all just say...ahhhhaa, how straightforward that is...
Niamh.
14-01-2021, 10:11 AM
So is there anywhere we could watch it in forward time? I would love to watch that
...so this is interesting because its more or less saying that the movie/characters are completely changed in watching it in real time...
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/4ukdta/i_finally_watched_memento_with_scenes_in/
...there must be a way of doing that, I’ll look for the cuts to see if they’re online...
...that’s what I so want to do, to compare the two...and see how we view it if we don’t feel Lenny’s mind...
Niamh.
14-01-2021, 10:21 AM
...that’s what I so want to do, to compare the two...and see how we view it if we don’t feel Lenny’s mind...
Yeah same
Niamh.
14-01-2021, 10:21 AM
I think this is it?
https://vimeo.com/194394156
James
14-01-2021, 10:23 AM
So is there anywhere we could watch it in forward time? I would love to watch that
194394156
...oh, I’ll try to get time to watch it later today, I can’t wait to see how much it changes it...thanks guys...
...if anyone has any ideas already, we can also start thinking about the next movie watch...so long as it’s something we can all access to watch, ‘classic’ can be stretched a bit as well...
Niamh.
14-01-2021, 10:28 AM
I'm kind of loving these ones where you have to think about them, we're getting a lot of mileage out of Memento
I saw a list of mind bending movies and I haven't seen this one (not sure where to watch though)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Lost_Higway_%281997%29.png
Niamh.
14-01-2021, 10:32 AM
194394156
Thanks James, I can't wait to watch it forwards now
I'm kind of loving these ones where you have to think about them, we're getting a lot of mileage out of Memento
I saw a list of mind bending movies and I haven't seen this one (not sure where to watch though)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Lost_Higway_%281997%29.png
...hmmmm, I can’t find it free online atm but I’ll keep looking...
Niamh.
14-01-2021, 10:41 AM
...hmmmm, I can’t find it free online atm but I’ll keep looking...
Don't worry about it, we can find something else
...it really is so different to watch it in real time because it’s almost like it messes with our own memory when it’s diverting backwards and forwards and because of that, I’d forgotten some bits...
Bollo
14-01-2021, 11:43 PM
..so good that you’re negative, Bollo...hug:....it just feels that so many people we’re closely familiar with are more and more testing positive ...I hope that your work colleagues don’t have too severe symptoms and that they recover well...
...enjoy your day off...:love:..and look forward to hearing your thoughts...
Thanks Ammi, they're ok just got sypmtoms like a mild flu and one of them has lost his sense of taste but he's already starting to work from home...
It was great watching memento again, i'd forgotten how good it was...
Especially all the lies Leonard tells himself to create a sense of purpose and how he allows his condition and so many of the 'clues' he finds to misdirect him..
One thing i'd forgotton but which i still don't quite get was the clip when he is in bed with his wife and he clearly has his tattoos....
I'm going to watch the one in chronological order tommorrow, that should be interesting..
I'm kind of loving these ones where you have to think about them, we're getting a lot of mileage out of Memento
I saw a list of mind bending movies and I haven't seen this one (not sure where to watch though)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Lost_Higway_%281997%29.pngIf you like Lost Highway then I highly recommend Mulholland Drive. Although it needs more than one viewing.
The first time you watch it, you probably won't understand what's happening, but then go find out what the plot is about and watch again from the perspective of knowing what's happening.
I'll tell you.
The first hour and half of the film is not real, you're in and watching somebody's dream, but you don't know you are, unless you already knew, which you do now.
Then the person who's dream you're in, wakes up, and the last half hour explains the dream you was watching, but you don't know that, unless you already knew, which you do now.
But it's even far more complicated than that.
First time I watched it, I didn't get, but was intrigued by it, then I looked it up online and read a great piece explaining the whole plot of the film, then I watched it again and realised it's a work of genius.
It's sort of a cross between Sunset Boulevard and a very dark Wizard of Oz, which are favourite films of the guy who Directed it, David Lynch, he also directed Lost Highway.
Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire are called David Lynch's LA trilogy, although it's not a trilogy as such like Lord of the rings or The Godfather, they're different story's. I've seen Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive, I've not seen Inland Empire.
It's a film that if you get it, it's a masterpiece, if you don't, you think what the hell was that rubbish all about?
It ranks number 28 in the sight and sound critics poll of the greatest films ever made. It also ranked number 1 in a 2016 BBC culture poll, of the greatest films made since the year 2000.
Maybe you've already seen it? If so give us your thoughts. If you've not seen it yet, but you do watch it, let me know what you think.
I think you need to have total understanding of what's going on in the film to realise that what Lynch did with that film was genius. Lynch is a very difficult director for most people to understand.
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 03:49 AM
I love David Lynch.
Not a movie, but Twin Peaks is one of my favourite shows.
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 03:58 AM
Scent of a woman is another of my favourite movies.
An amazing performance by Pacino.
...Trainspotting as well is one that I haven’t seen before if it’s one that others would like to watch...
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 08:55 AM
If you like Lost Highway then I highly recommend Mulholland Drive. Although it needs more than one viewing.
The first time you watch it, you probably won't understand what's happening, but then go find out what the plot is about and watch again from the perspective of knowing what's happening.
I'll tell you.
The first hour and half of the film is not real, you're in and watching somebody's dream, but you don't know you are, unless you already knew, which you do now.
Then the person who's dream you're in, wakes up, and the last half hour explains the dream you was watching, but you don't know that, unless you already knew, which you do now.
But it's even far more complicated than that.
First time I watched it, I didn't get, but was intrigued by it, then I looked it up online and read a great piece explaining the whole plot of the film, then I watched it again and realised it's a work of genius.
It's sort of a cross between Sunset Boulevard and a very dark Wizard of Oz, which are favourite films of the guy who Directed it, David Lynch, he also directed Lost Highway.
Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire are called David Lynch's LA trilogy, although it's not a trilogy as such like Lord of the rings or The Godfather, they're different story's. I've seen Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive, I've not seen Inland Empire.
It's a film that if you get it, it's a masterpiece, if you don't, you think what the hell was that rubbish all about?
It ranks number 28 in the sight and sound critics poll of the greatest films ever made. It also ranked number 1 in a 2016 BBC culture poll, of the greatest films made since the year 2000.
Maybe you've already seen it? If so give us your thoughts. If you've not seen it yet, but you do watch it, let me know what you think.
I think you need to have total understanding of what's going on in the film to realise that what Lynch did with that film was genius. Lynch is a very difficult director for most people to understand.
I've seen Mullholland Drive, I really liked it, a real mind bend. I only watched it one time though so I'd definitely be up for a re watch if we can get a link somewhere.
It is definitely one that you'd view with different eyes the 2nd time round knowing what the ending was. If we do watch it as one of these films I'll do you a proper review then, it's not fresh enough in my mind to do one now but it was one of my favourites of these types films
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 08:57 AM
Also, Alf I've just spoilered your explanation of what's going on in the film in case we do watch it and it spoils it for people
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 09:06 AM
...Trainspotting as well is one that I haven’t seen before if it’s one that others would like to watch...
Great movie and it's on BBC iPlayer, I think.
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 09:07 AM
...Trainspotting as well is one that I haven’t seen before if it’s one that others would like to watch...
You've never seen Trainspotting? Oh definitely add that then, that's a must see
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 09:08 AM
Gladiator is another great movie I want to watch again.
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 09:09 AM
Gladiator is another great movie I want to watch again.
It is but I've watched that one so many times :laugh:
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 09:11 AM
How about The Godfather 2 ?
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 09:13 AM
How about The Godfather 2 ?
I know I'll get slated for this but............ I didn't really like the Godfather films
https://media1.tenor.com/images/7626792a3cb9a6ee4b8aade2475751fc/tenor.gif?itemid=18465108
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 09:15 AM
Goodfellas? Casino?
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 09:15 AM
Jurassic Park?
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 09:17 AM
I'd go for any of those ones
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 09:17 AM
Shindlers List?
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 09:21 AM
You know I've never actually watched Schlindlers List so I'd definitely go for that
You know I've never actually watched Schlindlers List so I'd definitely go for thatWhat?? Spielberg's masterpiece and you've not seen it? Get out of this club, at once.
I've watched it about 10 times.
Luckily for you you've seen Mulholland Drive, so you can remain in the club.
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 11:40 AM
What?? Spielberg's masterpiece and you've not seen it? Get out of this club, at once.
I've watched it about 10 times.
Luckily for you you've seen Mulholland Drive, so you can remain in the club.
:laugh:
I know I know, it's shameful :laugh:
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 11:50 AM
You know I've never actually watched Schlindlers List so I'd definitely go for that
It's amazing and always has me bawling at the end :bawling:
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 11:52 AM
I love Spielberg, Scorsese, Lynch.
Especially Spielberg, I think he's amazing.
...I will look for Schindler’s List online to see if I can find a free view site with a good quality screening but it doesn’t seem to be only of the movie Networks...(...for free that is..)...
...just a few that are on Netflix if these are of interest...
..Defiance...(...which is also a true story...)
..The Green Mile...
...The Irishman...
...Shutter Island...
...Seven...
...American Beauty...
...Benjamin Button...
...Seven Pounds...
...A Beautiful Mind...
..American History X...
...I don’t know what people think of any of those...?..
...I’ll look for Trainspotting as well, I haven’t seen that...
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 12:26 PM
I've seen Shutter Island but i would re watch it. The Irish man was such a bore fest, I couldn't even finish it (cleanly gangster movies aren't really my thing :laugh: )
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 12:27 PM
American Beauty honestly would just creep me out, it was already a ****ed up pervy old man movie but even worse now considering what we know about Kevin Spacey
...I’m easy whatever...I’ve seen them all except the Irishman...(...but never had any real leaning to watch it as no, gangster movies are not really my thing...)...I find some of the violence in them quite difficult...
American Beauty honestly would just creep me out, it was already a ****ed up pervy old man movie but even worse now considering what we know about Kevin Spacey
...yeah, I get that...I would find him hard to watch as well, he was one of my favourite actors, sadly...
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 12:34 PM
...I’m easy whatever...I’ve seen them all except the Irishman...(...but never had any real leaning to watch it as no, gangster movies are not really my thing...)...I find some of the violence in them quite difficult...
I'm not against violent movies, Quentin Tarantino is one of my favourites, his stuff seems so gory it kind of lessens it though, if that makes sense?
...yeah, I get that...I would find him hard to watch as well, he was one of my favourite actors, sadly...
I know he was one of mine too
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 12:35 PM
of that list, I don't think I've watched Defiance
I'm not against violent movies, Quentin Tarantino is one of my favourites, his stuff seems so gory it kind of lessens it though, if that makes sense?
I know he was one of mine too
of that list, I don't think I've watched Defiance
...I can tolerate some violence but it’s also the context/content of the rest of the movie as well, if that makes sense...there has to be so much more to offer in the movie...maybe for me, ‘gangster’ is just too much violence because that was a huge part of gangster world...I did like the Untouchables, actually, though...
...Defiance would probably be the closest movie to something like Schindler’s List...so we could say that..?...I’ve only seen it once a long time ago but I recall it to be very good...and Liev Schreiber, one of my favourite actors...
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 01:02 PM
...I can tolerate some violence but it’s also the context/content of the rest of the movie as well, if that makes sense...there has to be so much more to offer in the movie...maybe for me, ‘gangster’ is just too much violence because that was a huge part of gangster world...I did like the Untouchables, actually, though...
...Defiance would probably be the closest movie to something like Schindler’s List...so we could say that..?...I’ve only seen it once a long time ago but I recall it to be very good...and Liev Schreiber, one of my favourite actors...
Yeah I know what you mean. I did like Scarface for some reason though
Yep, happy with that choice
...ok, next movie watch is Defiance and it’s on Netflix...(..I hope that I got that right...)...
...I don’t know if Alf can be enticed to watch but you are welcome, Alf...
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 01:21 PM
Great, I'll watch it over the weekend.
I watched Memento in chronological order as well
It really does show how genius the original is though and just how much it puts you in Lenny's head rather than watching a straight forward movie about a guy with that condition.
I found I liked Natalie a bit more in this version, you could kind of understand a bit more why she was being an asshole to Lenny, clearly she knew he'd either killed or been an accessory to killing her boyfriend (even if he was a drug dealer) and she still did seem to feel sorry for Lenny even though she used him (but maybe she felt he owed her that revenge?
Also, the scene in the cafe with Natalie and she asks him to close his eyes and remember his wife, in some of those memories she looked stressed and upset and i wonder does that imply it was after the rape and therefore Teddy was telling the truth when he said Lenny had accidentally OD'd her? It's easier to notice that watching it chronologically because watching it backwards you don't know yet that she may have actually survived the attack.
I feel the conversation about her re reading that book had some significance as well or symbolism at least about repeating things.
So yeah watching it forwards made me end up with my original conclusion that Sammy did exist but that Lenny had somehow managed to train himself to believe that his own wife was Sammy's.
What I would like to know though is how they figured out that the killer was John G? Where did those names/initials come from?
Also, another observation, how quickly he believed Teddy about Jimmy being the one, he seemed to have just taken his word where as he was much more thorough when deciding Teddy was the one
...ok, next movie watch is Defiance and it’s on Netflix...(..I hope that I got that right...)...
...I don’t know if Alf can be enticed to watch but you are welcome, Alf...Thank you very much, however, I'm not on Netflix, I cancelled it earlier this year, and I don't have that film on Dvd.
I do have hundreds of films on dvd, and one time, you're bound to choose something I've got, so I'll join in on those occasions.
Thank you very much, however, I'm not on Netflix, I cancelled it earlier this year, and I don't have that film on Dvd.
I do have hundreds of films on dvd, and one time, you're bound to choose something I've got, so I'll join in on those occasions.
...yeah, that’s the thing...choosing one so that everyone can access it ..(...free...)...as we don’t all have the same Networks or methods...with Memento, though...it was available free online on a site so that’s also another possible option...if you want to say some of your dvd titles, Alf... then I’ll check online to see which ones we can all get access to as well...
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 06:10 PM
Found it in YouTube.
Ah Daniel Craig, one of my favourite actors !
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 06:10 PM
Thank you very much, however, I'm not on Netflix, I cancelled it earlier this year, and I don't have that film on Dvd.
I do have hundreds of films on dvd, and one time, you're bound to choose something I've got, so I'll join in on those occasions.
It's on YouTube.
...I think this quality seems ok...?.../...for Alf and Vanessa...
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Found it in YouTube.
Ah Daniel Craig, one of my favourite actors !
....oh ha, snap...:laugh:...
Vanessa
15-01-2021, 06:13 PM
....oh ha, snap...:laugh:...
I usually watch movies in YouTube.
So I can watch it on my telly :laugh:
Niamh.
15-01-2021, 06:45 PM
Oh brilliant
...Defiance...
...unlike Memento when I had forgotten a lot of it, I pretty much remembered most of this movie...maybe as well because I researched the story of the brothers after I’d watched it first time so that I could learn more...I had, though....forgotten the scene with the German soldier/...when they all brutally beat him to death ...I’d read that the movie caused some controversy in how Hollywood’ the story had been moulded to have lots of inaccuracies...the local village/towns people didn’t see the Bielski brothers in any ‘hero’ light and found them to be quite murderous, accusing them of slaughtering innocent families...anyway, there is no doubt that many, many people only survived because of them...and I guess that ‘hero’ isn’t black and white, anyway...a defined ‘hero’ may always be a villain to some in their actions...
Niamh.
18-01-2021, 08:39 AM
I haven't watched it yet but I will make a start on it on my lunch break today
...I was always the last person to watch stuff because I’m so easily distracted ...but since restrictions and lockdown etc, TV is my life...
Niamh.
18-01-2021, 08:43 AM
Mine too :laugh: we started a new series actually over the weekend Ammi which is pretty good if you haven't watched it already, it's called Messiah
...we’re like an old set of towels, we have ‘His’, ‘Hers’ and ‘Ours’ movies and shows...
...oh, I’ll check that out, thank you...I like the sound of the synopsis...I watched the first episode of Finding Alice last night, which was intriguing ...but I’m not sure if yo7 can find a channel to stream it on...
Niamh.
18-01-2021, 08:48 AM
I'll check that out if I can find it
Vanessa
18-01-2021, 12:33 PM
I'll watch it after work.
I love Daniel Craig.
Vanessa
18-01-2021, 12:33 PM
...I was always the last person to watch stuff because I’m so easily distracted ...but since restrictions and lockdown etc, TV is my life...
Same. Thank god for the telly :joker:
Bollo
19-01-2021, 11:51 PM
Great, I'll watch it over the weekend.
I watched Memento in chronological order as well
It really does show how genius the original is though and just how much it puts you in Lenny's head rather than watching a straight forward movie about a guy with that condition.
I found I liked Natalie a bit more in this version, you could kind of understand a bit more why she was being an asshole to Lenny, clearly she knew he'd either killed or been an accessory to killing her boyfriend (even if he was a drug dealer) and she still did seem to feel sorry for Lenny even though she used him (but maybe she felt he owed her that revenge?
Also, the scene in the cafe with Natalie and she asks him to close his eyes and remember his wife, in some of those memories she looked stressed and upset and i wonder does that imply it was after the rape and therefore Teddy was telling the truth when he said Lenny had accidentally OD'd her? It's easier to notice that watching it chronologically because watching it backwards you don't know yet that she may have actually survived the attack.
I feel the conversation about her re reading that book had some significance as well or symbolism at least about repeating things.
So yeah watching it forwards made me end up with my original conclusion that Sammy did exist but that Lenny had somehow managed to train himself to believe that his own wife was Sammy's.
What I would like to know though is how they figured out that the killer was John G? Where did those names/initials come from?
Also, another observation, how quickly he believed Teddy about Jimmy being the one, he seemed to have just taken his word where as he was much more thorough when deciding Teddy was the one
Yes I watched the chronological version as well it was really interesting, almost like watching a different film...
I found that it made you see all the other characters in a different light and how they all responded to Lennys condition more clearly
I think that Lenny was quick to believe Teddy because he wants vengeance quickly and it was easy to believe and then when that was finished he had to fabricate another whole story by himself to seek vengeance again
So..Defiance is the next film to watch i have never seen or heard of it before so I am looking forward to watching it..
I have also been watching Finding Alice on ITV player but I fear it's going to be one of those series where they make sure there are loose ends so you have to watch the next series... I prefer limited series like Russian Doll which is just brilliant ...
...yeah, although we knew that it was told backwards in the original, so could piece together the plot...actually watching it in real time changed so much in terms of the characters and Natalie especially had seemed awful, but she wasn’t ...I don’t know why ‘John G’ became significant, I presumed that the killer actually was ‘John G’ and he had already killed him but obviously didn’t recall...so all of the other John G’s were invented to create the vigilante in him because as Teddy said, it was an easy name to choose...’do you have any idea how many John G’s there are..’.....it was also said that there were two people because he was hit from behind...and yet in his ‘search’ it was only ever mentioned John G...whichever way we watched it, it seems to leave so much element of unanswered..I thought that the significance of the book was just how it attached to him in repeating and repeating ‘a story’ and that he didn’t actually want it to have an ending either, because it enabled him to ‘have a purpose’ in his grief, he wouldn’t ever stop living in his story..it’s all so well done and so fascinating...did he pinch his wife’s thigh or did he give an insulin injection...we still don’t really know....
Yes I watched the chronological version as well it was really interesting, almost like watching a different film...
I found that it made you see all the other characters in a different light and how they all responded to Lennys condition more clearly
I think that Lenny was quick to believe Teddy because he wants vengeance quickly and it was easy to believe and then when that was finished he had to fabricate another whole story by himself to seek vengeance again
So..Defiance is the next film to watch i have never seen or heard of it before so I am looking forward to watching it..
I have also been watching Finding Alice on ITV player but I fear it's going to be one of those series where they make sure there are loose ends so you have to watch the next series... I prefer limited series like Russian Doll which is just brilliant ...
...I’ve watched around 4/5 episodes of Finding Alice so far and I’m loving it but it didn’t occur to me that loose ends wouldn’t be tied up, goddamn them...:laugh:...I’m too invested to stop watching now and Keeley is totally fabulous as Alice...but I hope it doesn’t leave us nowhere in the end...I’ll check out Russian Doll, it’s not one I’m familiar with...
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 08:55 AM
...yeah, although we knew that it was told backwards in the original, so could piece together the plot...actually watching it in real time changed so much in terms of the characters and Natalie especially had seemed awful, but she wasn’t ...I don’t know why ‘John G’ became significant, I presumed that the killer actually was ‘John G’ and he had already killed him but obviously didn’t recall...so all of the other John G’s were invented to create the vigilante in him because as Teddy said, it was an easy name to choose...’do you have any idea how many John G’s there are..’.....it was also said that there were two people because he was hit from behind...and yet in his ‘search’ it was only ever mentioned John G...whichever way we watched it, it seems to leave so much element of unanswered..I thought that the significance of the book was just how it attached to him in repeating and repeating ‘a story’ and that he didn’t actually want it to have an ending either, because it enabled him to ‘have a purpose’ in his grief, he wouldn’t ever stop living in his story..it’s all so well done and so fascinating...did he pinch his wife’s thigh or did he give an insulin injection...we still don’t really know....
Lenny shot and killed the 2nd guy the night his wife was attacked, that's why they were only looking for one guy
I watched the start of Defiance yesterday on my lunch break but decided to turn it off because it was pretty good so I'm going to watch it with Gav tonight instead because I think he will like it too
Lenny shot and killed the 2nd guy the night his wife was attacked, that's why they were only looking for one guy
I watched the start of Defiance yesterday on my lunch break but decided to turn it off because it was pretty good so I'm going to watch it with Gav tonight instead because I think he will like it too
...I should never try to make my thoughts work and post when I’ve just woken up...:laugh:...don’t think that I didn’t know that, either....ooops...
Lenny shot and killed the 2nd guy the night his wife was attacked, that's why they were only looking for one guy
I watched the start of Defiance yesterday on my lunch break but decided to turn it off because it was pretty good so I'm going to watch it with Gav tonight instead because I think he will like it too
...yeah, we had both seen it before but only the one watch quite a few years ago...so he enjoyed the rewatch as well...not your Gav, my Gav...
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 09:03 AM
...yeah, we had both seen it before but only the one watch quite a few years ago...so he enjoyed the rewatch as well...not your Gav, my Gav...
Everyone needs a Gav :lovedup:
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 09:04 AM
...I should never try to make my thoughts work and post when I’ve just woken up...:laugh:...don’t think that I didn’t know that, either....ooops...
:laugh:
Yes I watched the chronological version as well it was really interesting, almost like watching a different film...
I found that it made you see all the other characters in a different light and how they all responded to Lennys condition more clearly
I think that Lenny was quick to believe Teddy because he wants vengeance quickly and it was easy to believe and then when that was finished he had to fabricate another whole story by himself to seek vengeance again
So..Defiance is the next film to watch i have never seen or heard of it before so I am looking forward to watching it..
I have also been watching Finding Alice on ITV player but I fear it's going to be one of those series where they make sure there are loose ends so you have to watch the next series... I prefer limited series like Russian Doll which is just brilliant ...
....yeah, I guess that Defiance wouldn’t really be a classic as such, but I’m stretching classic a bit as we all have different network channel access to movies...it’s more difficult that I thought in finding movies we can all watch...
...I was going to check how available Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was...I don’t know if anyone would think that would be a good watch/re-watch...or it could be a lighter movie, more comedy...
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 09:09 AM
Oh yeah I'd like to re watch Eternal Sunshine, I watched years ago so it's a bit hazy but I definitely really liked it.
...it’s also memory related, I’ll check out where it’s available....
...it’s also memory related, I’ll check out where it’s available...
...it’s also memory relat -...okay, enough...
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 09:14 AM
:laugh:
we're all about the memory these days
...I’ll bring this post down later but if it’s not on a TV Network channel for free...then there is a YouTube vid so everyone would be able to watch...
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Niamh.
20-01-2021, 09:59 AM
Oh great, thanks Ammi
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 12:49 PM
...I’ll bring this post down later but if it’s not on a TV Network channel for free...then there is a YouTube vid so everyone would be able to watch...
f7IzQmGnGoM
Just watched this for 50 minutes, thinking I don't remember it being this hard to watch.....then i read the comments, this isn't a proper version of it :laugh: that gave me a headache
Vanessa
20-01-2021, 12:58 PM
Yes, this is a movie you need to watch more than once to understand.
It's quite complicated.
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 01:01 PM
Yes, this is a movie you need to watch more than once to understand.
It's quite complicated.
No I mean the link doesn't work properly it keeps skipping :laugh:
Vanessa
20-01-2021, 01:04 PM
:laugh:No I mean the link doesn't work properly it keeps skipping :laugh:
Oh right
...Oh apologies...it said full movie and the quality looked okay, so I didn’t play beyond a few moments...this one..?..this is the site Memento was on, so hopefully it’s okay...(...I’ll start to watch now so that I can check...)...
https://vimeo.com/344731069
...I’m a bit unsure actually because it’s the same length in time as the YouTube one...
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 01:12 PM
...I’m a bit unsure actually because it’s the same length in time as the YouTube one...
The youtube one finishes after around 40 something minutes and then starts over again but skipping every few seconds, I like an idiot thought this was some creative way they filmed it to illustrate memories disappearing :facepalm:
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 01:15 PM
The Vimeo link looks OK, I've actually just watched the whole film in forward stop mode lol
The youtube one finishes after around 40 something minutes and then starts over again but skipping every few seconds, I like an idiot thought this was some create way they filmed it to illustrate memories disappearing :facepalm:
...I was just about to ask when I would know if this one was okay because I can’t recall enough detail of the movie...I’ve started to watch but I’ll have to watch 40 minutes or so to see if it restarts...?...
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 01:16 PM
...I was just about to ask when I would know if this one was okay because I can’t recall enough detail of the movie...I’ve started to watch but I’ll have to watch 40 minutes or so to see if it restarts...?...
No it's fine I think, if you watch the Youtube link for 5 minutes you will see what I mean, you'll see how different they play in a very short amount of time
...*confused*...:laugh:...so the YT shows the whole movie complete and then begins it again on a loop...?...
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 01:17 PM
...*confused*...:laugh:...so the YT shows the whole movie complete and then begins it again on a loop...?...
Yeah, it's like they snip the scenes so you get unfinished conversations and it jumps to different scenes unexpectedly
...oh, it’s almost as if two movies are being played overlapping each other...
...I’ll try Vimeo, it was fine with Memento....ooooops, so sorry....it’s a memory test or something...
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 01:19 PM
...oh, it’s almost as if two movies are being played overlapping each other...
Can you believe I watched that for 50 minutes? :laugh:
Can you believe I watched that for 50 minutes? :laugh:
...it’s lock down fever...:laugh:..I owe you a bottle of wine or something for posting that, the soundtrack didn’t sound right which I should have noticed...even in the first minute it skipped a beat and repeated a bar...I can’t imagine what purpose that version was posted for...
Niamh.
20-01-2021, 01:33 PM
...it’s lock down fever...:laugh:..I owe you a bottle of wine or something for posting that, the soundtrack didn’t sound right which I should have noticed...even in the first minute it skipped a beat and repeated a bar...I can’t imagine what purpose that version was posted for...
:laugh: never mind, it was an ..........experience in itself
GoldHeart
20-01-2021, 02:07 PM
It's rare you'll get genuine movie links on YouTube, usually the people that post those links clickbait people into thinking the movie is actually on YouTube :rolleyes: , when usually it's just a dead link with a thumbnail .
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