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arista
05-11-2020, 12:27 AM
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05-11-2020, 12:31 AM
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05-11-2020, 12:31 AM
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05-11-2020, 12:32 AM
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LaLaLand
05-11-2020, 12:41 AM
Trump is basically inciting anger/riots here with all of his claims. There WILL be fighting on the streets. Awful.

Denver
05-11-2020, 02:02 AM
Georgia is going to the wire, Biden has gone from over 300k votes behind trump to about 60k

Kizzy
05-11-2020, 02:23 AM
Can trump still win fairly now or not? Is it over bar his silly challenges?

GoldHeart
05-11-2020, 02:55 AM
Trump is basically inciting anger/riots here with all of his claims. There WILL be fighting on the streets. Awful.

Trump is a disgusting pathetic idiot , Throughout this election he's been salty af and encouraging violence. He's the definition of the worst sore loser ever .

Things aren't going in his favour so he resorts to bullying tactics and making ridiculous claims of it all being "fraud".

He can have his recount of votes but they better not let him bend the rules . He still thinks he can do whatever he wants despite the fact they all have to follow the proper guidelines.

Swan
05-11-2020, 02:58 AM
Can trump still win fairly now or not? Is it over bar his silly challenges?

Technically yes but it would take some kind of miracle now. Biden has one foot in the White House, one hand on the Trophy etc..

Denver
05-11-2020, 03:08 AM
Georgia is now down to 33k between them

Denver
05-11-2020, 03:09 AM
Biden needs 61% - 63% of of the outstanding mail in bailouts in PA to take that state, he is currently winning by a 78% - 22% Margin

LaLaLand
05-11-2020, 03:15 AM
Has AZ been called for Biden yet? Inevitable isn't it?

Denver
05-11-2020, 03:15 AM
Biden is looking very likely to snatch Georgia

Denver
05-11-2020, 03:18 AM
Has AZ been called for Biden yet? Inevitable isn't it?

The Republicans are being increasingly confident they have AZ but if the lose GA like they are expecting to then it makes it impossible for Trump to be reelected

GoldHeart
05-11-2020, 03:24 AM
Biden is looking very likely to snatch Georgia

Where are you getting that source from?? , i mean it would be amazing if he did but i don't think Biden is getting Georgia. He's definitely got Arizona though.

But it looks like all Biden needs now is Nevada and then he's won OMG !!! :hello::fc: .

LaLaLand
05-11-2020, 03:25 AM
Where does poor old Alaska on her own fall into all this? :joker:

Denver
05-11-2020, 03:26 AM
Where are you getting that source from?? , i mean it would be amazing if he did but i don't think Biden is getting Georgia. He's definitely got Arizona though.

But it looks like all Biden needs now is Nevada and then he's won OMG !!! :hello::fc: .

By the amount of votes he is clawing back from nearly 300k down to 31k down and is gonna keep going down as Biden is performing much better in the final votes count

GoldHeart
05-11-2020, 03:27 AM
Has AZ been called for Biden yet? Inevitable isn't it?

Biden definitely has Arizona , i just checked the website and there's the tick next to his name :thumbs2:

Denver
05-11-2020, 03:27 AM
Where does poor old Alaska on her own fall into all this? :joker:

Thats always been a republican safe spot

LaLaLand
05-11-2020, 03:28 AM
Thats always been a republican safe spot

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GoldHeart
05-11-2020, 03:30 AM
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I wouldn't worry too much about that , it's only worth 3 votes anyway .

Denver
05-11-2020, 03:32 AM
Biden definitely has Arizona , i just checked the website and there's the tick next to his name :thumbs2:

Arizona is likely to flip ti the republicans

GoldHeart
05-11-2020, 03:43 AM
I hate how close the percentages are between them

Jack_
05-11-2020, 03:52 AM
Hm, let's not get ahead of ourselves yet

The race is narrowing in Arizona, Biden only leads by 7,000 votes in Nevada, and I think Trump will take North Carolina when it's called. All three total 32 electoral college votes

Georgia is looking surprisingly promising and might be key to preventing a Pennsylvania nightmare

Denver
05-11-2020, 04:01 AM
Hm, let's not get ahead of ourselves yet

The race is narrowing in Arizona, Biden only leads by 7,000 votes in Nevada, and I think Trump will take North Carolina when it's called. All three total 32 electoral college votes

Georgia is looking surprisingly promising and might be key to preventing a Pennsylvania nightmare

Biden is expected to take PA by 3 points

Denver
05-11-2020, 04:42 AM
Biden is now 16k behind in Georgia and is expected to take the lead in the next dump

Amy Jade
05-11-2020, 05:07 AM
I am liking how the postal voters have really turned out for Biden. Trump supporters were being so smug about their numbers at rallies and it's really come back to bite them.

It's genuinely hilarious watching them freak out on social media.

GoldHeart
05-11-2020, 05:33 AM
I am liking how the postal voters have really turned out for Biden. Trump supporters were being so smug about their numbers at rallies and it's really come back to bite them.

It's genuinely hilarious watching them freak out on social media.

Postal votes have really come through for Biden :clap1:

Trump's meltdown is ridiculous and funny at the same time , he's actually suing now . Talk about spitting his dummy out like a child he can't accept defeat , the salt is oozing out of him ! .

Swan
05-11-2020, 05:57 AM
So basically Trump's people want to watch the mail in votes be counted? But they wasn't allowed, so that's why they're taking legal action?

bots
05-11-2020, 06:10 AM
So basically Trump's people want to watch the mail in votes be counted? But they wasn't allowed, so that's why they're taking legal action?

they are allowed the same as the dem representative. The view is also live streamed on the net so that anyone can watch it. I Think social distancing rules were in force, and they wanted to be up close and in someones face. It's not a legal argument, and the same as all their other "legal" complaints - baseless

Ammi
05-11-2020, 06:31 AM
...I do think that Biden is maybe being too confident...the voting seems to have fairly much gone as predicted ..?...the postal votes will obviously favour Biden but Trump knew that and was always going to question their validity...

Ammi
05-11-2020, 06:39 AM
...I can’t find an actual tweet but apparently Melania has the removal vans there already...:laugh:...

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/secondary/Trump-2745497.webp?r=1604540172396

....the pic must surely be a fake or one from when they moved in or something...

bots
05-11-2020, 06:43 AM
...I do think that Biden is maybe being too confident...the voting seems to have fairly much gone as predicted ..?...the postal votes will obviously favour Biden but Trump knew that and was always going to question their validity...

trump is filing all sorts of legal complaints, and Biden is doing steady but fine, however, Trump can still win, that shouldn't be forgotten

arista
05-11-2020, 06:45 AM
Biden is expected to take PA by 3 points


A recount
can be ordered

Ammi
05-11-2020, 06:49 AM
trump is filing all sorts of legal complaints, and Biden is doing steady but fine, however, Trump can still win, that shouldn't be forgotten

....yeah, that’s what I mean, bots....(...I’m not hugely knowledgeable on US election processes...)...but breaking it down into bits, it seems to have fairly gone as expected...no real huge variation in that...not only for us/...the public but obviously, for Trump as well...it was always known that the postal votes would come last and favour Biden, for instance...?...and I do believe that Trump’s team have fully had their ‘plan’ together and this is not yet won or lost at all...

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 06:55 AM
A recount
can be ordered

that would be against democracy

bots
05-11-2020, 06:57 AM
....yeah, that’s what I mean, bots....(...I’m not hugely knowledgeable on US election processes...)...but breaking it down into bits, it seems to have fairly gone as expected...no real huge variation in that...not only for us/...the public but obviously, for Trump as well...it was always known that the postal votes would come last and favour Biden, for instance...?...and I do believe that Trump’s team have fully had their ‘plan’ together and this is not yet won or lost at all...

Trump is being divisive and also lying ... he said he had won way to early, and Biden had to counter that without being confrontational, which I think he did really well. He said things looked good but he wasn't declaring himself the winner.

There really isn't anything like going as expected. Swing states are always up for grabs, which can go either way and Biden has won a lot of the main ones and he is also either winning or very close to leading in a couple of states that were solid republican .... upshot is, it's a pretty good performance from Biden and he has more paths forward to victory than Trump has. He doesnt need to win PA now for example, he has other options available. If Trump loses PA its basically all over

arista
05-11-2020, 07:00 AM
that would be against democracy


No its
their system of Democracy

bots
05-11-2020, 07:05 AM
A recount
can be ordered

yes, but trump already canned a recount. The requester has to pay for the recount and for Wisconsin that was going to be 3 million upfront, so Trump cancelled the request. PA would cost a lot more than 3m

arista
05-11-2020, 07:10 AM
Georgia is going to the wire, Biden has gone from over 300k votes behind trump to about 60k


Yes but right now, this hour
it's Jumped up to Trump
in the lead

Was on SkyNewsHD

arista
05-11-2020, 07:11 AM
yes, but trump already canned a recount. The requester has to pay for the recount and for Wisconsin that was going to be 3 million upfront, so Trump cancelled the request. PA would cost a lot more than 3m


OK
but they can change their mind again.

Ammi
05-11-2020, 07:15 AM
Trump is being divisive and also lying ... he said he had won way to early, and Biden had to counter that without being confrontational, which I think he did really well. He said things looked good but he wasn't declaring himself the winner.

There really isn't anything like going as expected. Swing states are always up for grabs, which can go either way and Biden has won a lot of the main ones and he is also either winning or very close to leading in a couple of states that were solid republican .... upshot is, it's a pretty good performance from Biden and he has more paths forward to victory than Trump has. He doesnt need to win PA now for example, he has other options available. If Trump loses PA its basically all over

...hopefully Biden will win but even if he did lose, it would have always been a loss for Trump, I feel...for it to be so close and against someone who hasn’t really had any type of standout popularity, as such...not the most hoped for/ideal candidate by a long way...even if Biden lost, it would be close...so that’s fairly devastating for Trump, to struggle a close win against Biden...obviously that’s not how the Donald will see it because his hands are huge....HUGE, big hands so he’s almighty and all powerful and the bestest....

bots
05-11-2020, 07:26 AM
...hopefully Biden will win but even if he did lose, it would have always been a loss for Trump, I feel...for it to be so close and against someone who hasn’t really had any type of standout popularity, as such...not the most hoped for/ideal candidate by a long way...even if Biden lost, it would be close...so that’s fairly devastating for Trump, to struggle a close win against Biden...obviously that’s not how the Donald will see it because his hands are huge....HUGE, big hands so he’s almighty and all powerful and the bestest....

One of the interesting ones is Arizona which has always been very republican, but Biden is doing pretty well in it. Arizona was the state that John McCain represented, and a lot of people are voting Biden purely because of the way Trump spoke about McCain ... it would be so fitting if McCain got the last laugh

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 07:31 AM
One of the interesting ones is Arizona which has always been very republican, but Biden is doing pretty well in it. Arizona was the state that John McCain represented, and a lot of people are voting Biden purely because of the way Trump spoke about McCain ... it would be so fitting if McCain got the last laugh

McCain's ghost to haunt Trump at christmas?

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 07:34 AM
https://twitter.com/DailyMailCeleb/status/1324226654391119872

Actress Rosario Dawson feels so proud of her boyfriend Cory Booker after election win, where he claimed a seat in U.S Senate

Ammi
05-11-2020, 07:46 AM
One of the interesting ones is Arizona which has always been very republican, but Biden is doing pretty well in it. Arizona was the state that John McCain represented, and a lot of people are voting Biden purely because of the way Trump spoke about McCain ... it would be so fitting if McCain got the last laugh

...Biden has also had the most votes in history of any presidential candidate..so a huge victory also..?..and those votes for him could also be said to be votes against Trump...the most in history against someone ...?..so another huge loss for him, whichever way the result...?...there will surely never be anything to bring any type of smile or ‘laugh’ for Trump, he could never have the last laugh with this election, in any capacity...the president who has done ‘more for America, for racism, for the economy etc, etc than anyone ever in time...’...is in such a close race with some one who isn’t even stand out...an awful defeat no matter which way it’s flipped for the actual results...

user104658
05-11-2020, 07:52 AM
You know, to temper celebrations a bit, Trump could still win Georgia and Pennsylvania and flip Arizona and if so he wins. I think celebrations have been premature - largely because of AZ being called too early for Biden due to an "error" when it now IMO looks quite likely to flip.

Basically it means it's not just down to Nevada and Biden MUST flip either Georgia or PA, of which there are no guarantees. :worry:

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 07:57 AM
You know, to temper celebrations a bit, Trump could still win Georgia and Pennsylvania and flip Arizona and if so he wins. I think celebrations have been premature - largely because of AZ being called too early for Biden due to an "error" when it now IMO looks quite likely to flip.

Basically it means it's not just down to Nevada and Biden MUST flip either Georgia or PA, of which there are no guarantees. :worry:

Trump just should've kept his mouth shut, instead of begging for a recount

dictators like him should have no rights for a recount

user104658
05-11-2020, 08:04 AM
Trump just should've kept his mouth shut, instead of begging for a recount



dictators like him should have no rights for a recountIt's not that there's a recount in Arizona, it was called because Fox mistakenly thought 95% of votes had been counted when it was actually only 85% and there was still a chance of the percentage flipping back. Based on the trends so far (Biden lead lessening with there still being time to go), there's a good chance it will turn red, leaving Biden presidency to hinge on GA and PA postal votes. From what I'm reading at least one of them is likely to go blue (and both have more electoral votes than Arizona) but its nowhere near a finished race.

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 08:06 AM
It's not that there's a recount in Arizona, it was called because Fox mistakenly thought 95% of votes had been counted when it was actually only 85% and there was still a chance of the percentage flipping back. Based on the trends so far (Biden lead lessening with there still being time to go), there's a good chance it will turn red, leaving Biden presidency to hinge on GA and PA postal votes. From what I'm reading at least one of them is likely to go blue (and both have more electoral votes than Arizona) but its nowhere near a finished race.

of course it will turn red, when those vile far right republicans are now rigging this election

accept your defeat, bad loser orange moron

arista
05-11-2020, 08:06 AM
Trump is ahead on
now in Arizona and Georgia.

Elliot
05-11-2020, 08:10 AM
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Cherie
05-11-2020, 08:15 AM
My God this is agonising, can only imagine how the American people feel

Being able to post in your vote on polling day is literally crazy!

user104658
05-11-2020, 08:15 AM
Trump is ahead on
now in Arizona and Georgia.Where are you getting this from Arista? Biden still leads in Arizona, Trump MAY overtake but that's not the current situation and the only source I can see claiming that Trump is now winning AZ is... Trump's twitter.

arista
05-11-2020, 08:29 AM
Where are you getting this from Arista? Biden still leads in Arizona, Trump MAY overtake but that's not the current situation and the only source I can see claiming that Trump is now winning AZ is... Trump's twitter.


SkyNewsHD/ GMBHD itv

arista
05-11-2020, 08:29 AM
Both can reach 270

Its just much harder for Trump.

bots
05-11-2020, 08:30 AM
it would be a lot less stressful if they didn't do the constant count updates and just waited until they could notify a result. I also think its leading to all the uncertainty by not really projecting a true picture.

People are much to quick to say Trump has lost, he hasn't, he is still in play, and it won't be over until the results have all been certified .... this is very important, because all the votes called so far are provisional, they are certified later in the process.

There is currently a federal case going on where a huge number of postal votes were hidden by the post office and not delivered and these votes are for states such as Florida and Texas where it could easily change the vote.


This election has a long way to go yet :laugh:

arista
05-11-2020, 08:32 AM
One Zone has broken the Rules
taking Postal Votes after the Start time

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 08:35 AM
Both can reach 270

Its just much harder for Trump.

not when republicans are gonna delete some of the biden votes


so yeah i expect another trump win now, but at least now we know how far the orange drama queen will go to get his way

joeysteele
05-11-2020, 08:37 AM
What a mess this is.
The USA and ourselves often present both as leading lights in democracy.
Yet both now have what appears to be a largely unrepresentative and outdated system of election leaders of both Nations.

I understand it was orders from these individual States governing sources to count the mailed votes, ONLY after all the others had been.

That then makes it ridiculous that the President is arguing for vote counting to be stopped.
It was even his Party's representatives, who made that order to count them last of all.

Surely in the USA they could have had people counting them alongside the other voting counting however.
What a mess, especially with the expectation due to covid of a dramatic increase in the mailed voting.

I do hope Biden gets the figures needed and in light of the USA rules, I can't see where any legal challenge is possible.
That could be deemed serious.

Just sit back towards the weekend and see what happens.
Once all votes are counted.

It's pretty clear, had Biden been ahead in some vital States, with Trump catching him up from the counting of mailed in votes.

He would be screaming then for all votes to be counted, every single one.
That's his hypocrisy.

If he loses, which I hope he does,after his nonsense even on the first day of counting.
This must be the most undignified and pathetic departure from power of any President after an election.
Or at the end of their 2 terms.

Trump has just highlighted right from the start of counting the valid reasons why he should never have been elected to power anywhere.

arista
05-11-2020, 08:38 AM
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This Church Lady clip
was shown on GMBHD itv

Its Trumps Spiritual Adviser...........

arista
05-11-2020, 08:40 AM
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2024 Trump

Oliver_W
05-11-2020, 08:40 AM
Even if Trump does somehow end up the winner, he'll still have the stink of having lost the popular vote by a pretty big percentage.

If Trump loses, I hope it's by a big enough margin to make recounts or court action pointless. If it came down to one state with a tiny margin, we won't hear the end of it...

arista
05-11-2020, 08:43 AM
"What a mess this is."


Yes I blame Sleepy Joe,

Joey.

He was said to be a Landslide?

bots
05-11-2020, 08:59 AM
"What a mess this is."


Yes I blame Sleepy Joe,

Joey.

He was said to be a Landslide?

that's nonsense Arista

Cherie
05-11-2020, 09:01 AM
1324253334946107392

This Church Lady clip
was shown on GMBHD itv

Its Trumps Spiritual Adviser...........

:umm2: :laugh:

arista
05-11-2020, 09:04 AM
Trump Ahead in Georgia
Just Live on CNN HD

arista
05-11-2020, 09:04 AM
that's nonsense Arista


In what way

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 09:09 AM
https://twitter.com/KVUE/status/1324275260007612416

:clap1:

joeysteele
05-11-2020, 09:16 AM
"What a mess this is."


Yes I blame Sleepy Joe,

Joey.

He was said to be a Landslide?


I've never took notice of polling for a good while now.

I don't blame Biden at all.

He's done enough it appears to win the election however listening to the unreasoned ranting of Trump supporters, the election campaign was and then post the election, became a near impossibility to manage.

I think Biden should have got round more States, however an opponent like Trump who when he wins, declares himself the greatest.
Then if he's losing it's down to fake news, fraud and underhand recording of votes.
The man is just looking idiotic and even deranged.

America seems to not prefer to turf out an elected President after only one term.
I always feared the polls were incorrect, also that this election would be closer than predicted.

This election if Biden wins, will have him with the electoral college votes he needs and he'll have won the most votes.

That will be an achievement in itself.
To have unseated an incumbent President who has claimed fraud and all other nonsense, with ugly rhetoric and threats during his Presidency.
Whipping up almost frenzied cult kind of support.
Operating an awful campaign too.

Maybe Biden's style is unimpressive, even boring to most.
However, he appears to have probably done enough to win.
Which if he does, really that's all that matters.

As I say boring and unimpressive Biden may be but I'd have a sigh of relief for the USA and in fact the World, if in the end Biden takes over the Presidency from this irrational, uncompromising near monster in Trump.

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2020, 09:23 AM
Can anyone imagine if we had an election this week what chaos would have ensued?

Give the USA a break they are in the grip of a pandemic, its not easy and they are all doing as best they can. Plenty countries in the world would love to have the freedom to vote as they do in the USA.

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 09:24 AM
I've never took notice of polling for a good while now.

I don't blame Biden at all.

He's done enough it appears to win the election however listening to the unreasoned ranting of Trump supporters, the election campaign was and then post the election, became a near impossibility to manage.

I think Biden should have got round more States, however an opponent like Trump who when he wins, declares himself the greatest.
Then if he's losing it's down to fake news, fraud and underhand recording of votes.
The man is just looking idiotic and even deranged.

America seems to not prefer to turf out an elected President after only one term.
I always feared the polls were incorrect, also that this election would be closer than predicted.

This election if Biden wins, will have him with the electoral college votes he needs and he'll have won the most votes.

That will be an achievement in itself.
To have unseated an incumbent President who has claimed fraud and all other nonsense, with ugly rhetoric and threats during his Presidency.
Whipping up almost frenzied cult kind of support.
Operating an awful campaign too.

Maybe Biden's style is unimpressive, even boring to most.
However, he appears to have probably done enough to win.
Which if he does, really that's all that matters.

As I say boring and unimpressive Biden may be but I'd have a sigh of relief for the USA and in fact the World, if in the end Biden takes over the Presidency from this irrational, uncompromising near monster in Trump.

Trump also called himself ''your favourite president'' back when he did put that face mask on, that one time


another shady thing of Trump is when he somehow had corona but recovered after 3 days from it which is also very hard to believe (and then waving from his car to the people like its just leaving from a normal medical checkup) :joker:

arista
05-11-2020, 09:30 AM
Can anyone imagine if we had an election this week what chaos would have ensued?

Give the USA a break they are in the grip of a pandemic, its not easy and they are all doing as best they can. Plenty countries in the world would love to have the freedom to vote as they do in the USA.


We had some Chaos
when New Labours Brown took his time to go
after not getting Nick Clegg
who preferred David Cameron.

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2020, 09:30 AM
and by the way the National Polls are all out so bad i doubt anyone will trust them again

joeysteele
05-11-2020, 09:41 AM
We had some Chaos
when New Labours Brown took his time to go
after not getting Nick Clegg
who preferred David Cameron.

It did take to be fair, the Lib Dems and the Cons a fair while to agree a governing set of terms.

Some in the Lib Dems were still trying to work out a possible deal with Brown and Labour too.

There was although much tighter, an anti Con vote in parliament if the Lib Dems hadn't backed them.

This isn't about negotiating a deal to govern as to the USA.
It's the voters choice of one in and the other OUT.

Neither Cameron or Brown had an overall majority.

Also in Feb 74, ironically that election was on the parliament channel last weekend.
Heath, rightly resisted going for a period too, until it was clear he couldn't get support to remain PM.

This USA presidential election is only only a straight choice of 2 candidates.

arista
05-11-2020, 09:41 AM
Does Biden have Dementia?

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2020, 09:45 AM
Trump improved his numbers with every demographic Tuesday, apart from white men

go figure

white men - down 5%

white women - up 2%

black men - up 4%

black women - up 4%

smudgie
05-11-2020, 09:46 AM
"What a mess this is."


Yes I blame Sleepy Joe,

Joey.

He was said to be a Landslide?

Rise and shine Sleepy Joe, there are places to go...

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 09:55 AM
Trump improved his numbers with every demographic Tuesday, apart from white men

go figure

white men - down 5%

white women - up 2%

black men - up 4%

black women - up 4%

probably some of those Kanye followers, given Kanye & Trump are like besties, tbh not surprising since both are insane as it can be lol

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2020, 10:14 AM
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5079&stc=1&d=1604571231

bots
05-11-2020, 10:19 AM
Trump improved his numbers with every demographic Tuesday, apart from white men

go figure

white men - down 5%

white women - up 2%

black men - up 4%

black women - up 4%

it's not difficult to understand given that turnout has been so poor in previous elections and all sides were re-energised for this one. The categories that went down in that context are actually much further down from last time by about 4% which will affect things. So that basically means that the black vote stayed relatively constant and the other categories saw a relative dip

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2020, 10:21 AM
"The Democrats ran a "dead man" who was a vessel for all anti-trump sentiment in the country."

Ben Shapiro

https://media2.giphy.com/media/8hZGyRGLHxjD4IwYIf/giphy.gif

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 10:26 AM
"The Democrats ran a "dead man" who was a vessel for all anti-trump sentiment in the country."

Ben Shapiro

https://media2.giphy.com/media/8hZGyRGLHxjD4IwYIf/giphy.gif

Ask Ben if he would like some salt with his tea?

arista
05-11-2020, 10:37 AM
[Arizona polling center is forced to Close
as armed Trump supporters lay siege - while Republicans
launch legal challenges in Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia
and counting continues with Biden
needing two more contested states to declare victory]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/05/07/35279054-8915559-image-a-100_1604561250419.jpg
Why are the Police not there?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8915559/Could-Arizona-flip-TRUMP-State-reveals-600-000-votes-counted.html

Mystic Mock
05-11-2020, 10:42 AM
[Arizona polling center is forced to Close
as armed Trump supporters lay siege - while Republicans
launch legal challenges in Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia
and counting continues with Biden
needing two more contested states to declare victory]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/05/07/35279054-8915559-image-a-100_1604561250419.jpg
Why are the Police not there?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8915559/Could-Arizona-flip-TRUMP-State-reveals-600-000-votes-counted.html

And Trump accuses Biden of rigging the Election.

He needs to look at his own supporters first.

AnnieK
05-11-2020, 10:43 AM
This is going to descend into chaos soon and people will end up getting hurt or killed :worry:

arista
05-11-2020, 10:44 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/05/09/35282122-0-image-a-10_1604567838749.jpg
[MICHIGAN: Supporters of US President
Donald Trump chant slogans as they gather
outside the room where absentee ballots
for the 2020 general election are being counted]

They have a Cop helping

Epic.
05-11-2020, 10:44 AM
This is going to descend into chaos soon and people will end up getting hurt or killed :worry:

And nasty Trump will not try to condemn his supporters for doing any of it

arista
05-11-2020, 10:45 AM
And Trump accuses Biden of rigging the Election.

He needs to look at his own supporters first.


He can not stop it now
Trumps dream
is within these Angry Protestors

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 10:46 AM
This is going to descend into chaos soon and people will end up getting hurt or killed :worry:

And Trump should be tried for incitement if that does happen, he's a very dangerous, irresponsible man

arista
05-11-2020, 10:47 AM
And nasty Trump will not try to condemn his supporters for doing any of it


He maybe not aware?

bots
05-11-2020, 10:47 AM
This is the biggest worry, armed civil unrest. It really doesn't matter if biden or trump wins the election, it's an extremely polarised country and tensions are very high. I was just thinking yesterday, if Biden wins, what are his realistic chances of making it to January without being assassinated by some nut job, there are plenty of them around, many of whom believe Trump when he says Biden stole the election

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 10:47 AM
He maybe not aware?

Don't be ridiculous, of course he's aware

arista
05-11-2020, 10:48 AM
And Trump should be tried for incitement if that does happen, he's a very dangerous, irresponsible man


No he is still the Legal President
until Jan. 2021


He will just say BLM gangs
are attacking shops.

Cherie
05-11-2020, 10:49 AM
Those poor people counting the ballot, how unsafe must they feel :worry:

arista
05-11-2020, 10:49 AM
Don't be ridiculous, of course he's aware


No be fair

he maybe asleep.

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 10:50 AM
No be fair

he maybe asleep.

Sleepy Donnie :joker:

arista
05-11-2020, 10:50 AM
Those poor people counting the ballot, how unsafe must they feel :worry:

Yes The Police should be there with Guns
protecting them.

Strange in some zones
No Police?

arista
05-11-2020, 10:51 AM
Sleepy Donnie :joker:


Yes we all need a break

DouglasS
05-11-2020, 10:52 AM
Does Biden have Dementia?

I think he does he can’t tell the difference between his son and his granddaughters! Let alone know where he is. I think he still thinks he’s running for senator rather than for president! Hopefully someone lets him know soon

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 10:53 AM
https://twitter.com/algore/status/1324060048902029312

former democratic presidential candidate Al Gore said this

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 10:53 AM
No he is still the Legal President
until Jan. 2021


He will just say BLM gangs
are attacking shops.

wtf has that got to do with this? Are you saying that therefore excuse a totally separate incident? wtf?

DouglasS
05-11-2020, 10:54 AM
Trump supporters fighting for what’s right :clap1:

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 10:54 AM
Trump supporters fighting for what’s right :clap1:

By intimidating people trying to do their jobs?

Epic.
05-11-2020, 10:54 AM
He maybe not aware?

He's more than aware. Only less than a week ago he was applauding his Texas suppporters for ganging up on a Biden campaign bus and threatening to push it off a cliff, and calling them dedicated :umm2:

arista
05-11-2020, 11:04 AM
wtf has that got to do with this? Are you saying that therefore excuse a totally separate incident? wtf?

Lots of feeds go into the White House
so when he wakes up
he can check them all.

arista
05-11-2020, 11:05 AM
He's more than aware. Only less than a week ago he was applauding his Texas suppporters for ganging up on a Biden campaign bus and threatening to push it off a cliff, and calling them dedicated :umm2:

No I mean he maybe,
asleep at this time

arista
05-11-2020, 11:08 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/05/05/35275244-8915637-image-a-83_1604552855784.jpg
[SEATTLE: A protester lights an American flag
on fire during a demonstration in Seattle, yesterday.]

Trump has said this is a criminal offence

Tom4784
05-11-2020, 11:10 AM
These Trump supporters are just revealing themselves for what they truly are, violent cultist sheep.

I can't think of any election in the US or UK where supporters of one candidate pulled as much **** as the Trump cult has in this election. It's gross.

I think a sad reality is that Trump supporters are going to turn deadly when/if Trump loses. I do think there's going to be terrorist attacks in the US.

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 11:31 AM
These Trump supporters are just revealing themselves for what they truly are, violent cultist sheep.

I can't think of any election in the US or UK where supporters of one candidate pulled as much **** as the Trump cult has in this election. It's gross.

I think a sad reality is that Trump supporters are going to turn deadly when/if Trump loses. I do think there's going to be terrorist attacks in the US.

i agree, i also think they are capable of pulling off a terrorist attack, especially when their side loses an election

joeysteele
05-11-2020, 11:32 AM
By intimidating people trying to do their jobs?

It's absolutely disgraceful.

As it is too wrecklessly going on about the counting process too, likely trying to intimidate those just piling up the votes.

He wasn't whinging when he was taking States very narrowly in 2016.

It's clear as day from the actions of both the Presidential candidates which one is more statesmanlike.

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 11:34 AM
and i am not anti-republicans, since i kinda liked George W Bush, and i also liked John McCain (although he was rather unlucky he was up against a strong opponent as Obama, + having a **** running mate in that weirdo Palin)


tbh so little trouble there was at Bush vs Gore, Bush vs Kerry elections, compared to now (those 2 of the democrats whom strongly express support for Biden too, especially Kerry)

Gore is more for fair elections (count every vote) as seen in that tweet i posted of his on here

bots
05-11-2020, 12:19 PM
to me Trump is just such a massive contradiction. He sells himself as anti establishment and makes a mockery of standard social norms, common decency and fair play, yet expects to be treated in a manner befitting the president of the USA with people bowing and scraping to his every whim. However, a huge percentage of the american people seem to like that and support, encourage and egg him on .... so, honestly, Trump is a symptom of the current state of America, not the cause. The people who vote in their millions for him are the cause

Amy Jade
05-11-2020, 12:31 PM
Honestly his supporters aren't all bad obviously, there have been a few diplomatic ones but the insane ones threatening people with guns over this are making them all look bad. If I was part of that camp I'd be so embarrassed.

arista
05-11-2020, 12:31 PM
The Anti Trump Gang


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/05/05/35275276-8915637-image-a-5_1604553356726.jpg
[ILLINOIS: Demonstrator Brittany Bysina
holds a sign as demonstrators march
through central Chicago, last night.]

arista
05-11-2020, 12:35 PM
More Anti Trump

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/05/01/35267878-8915637-image-a-15_1604538100556.jpg
PENNSYLVANIA: Demonstrators, last night

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 12:50 PM
1324253334946107392

This Church Lady clip
was shown on GMBHD itv

Its Trumps Spiritual Adviser...........

freestyle rap is difficult before anyone judges her.

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 01:08 PM
freestyle rap is difficult before anyone judges her.

While I was in there looking at that Tweet, I came across this one :hee:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today, the Trump Administration officially left the Paris Climate Agreement. And in exactly 77 days, a Biden Administration will rejoin it. <a href="https://t.co/L8UJimS6v2">https://t.co/L8UJimS6v2</a></p>&mdash; Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1324158992877154310?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

arista
05-11-2020, 01:15 PM
Of Course Biden has that choice
if he lasts that long?

bots
05-11-2020, 01:18 PM
Of Course Biden has that choice
if he lasts that long?

your persistent ageist narrative is highly offensive

Amy Jade
05-11-2020, 01:24 PM
Of Course Biden has that choice
if he lasts that long?

What does this even mean?

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 01:26 PM
Of Course Biden has that choice
if he lasts that long?

They're both in their 70's Arista, stop with the ageist comments now, it's getting.............old

arista
05-11-2020, 01:26 PM
your persistent ageist narrative is highly offensive


Its a hard job to take on.

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 01:33 PM
Its a hard job to take on.

Biden is out running or bicycling most mornings. You've watched trump struggle to walk up ramps and lift a glass of water up to his mouth on more than one occasion, so why is Biden the frail one and president lard arse the mobile and strong one?

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 01:42 PM
Biden is out running or bicycling most mornings. You've watched trump struggle to walk up ramps and lift a glass of water up to his mouth on more than one occasion, so why is Biden the frail one and president lard arse the mobile and strong one?

Because he runs his mouth the most?

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 01:43 PM
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/11/mps-call-on-blok-to-uphold-democracy-and-ignore-trumps-declaration-of-victory/


MPs have called for the Dutch government to publicly condemn Donald Trump’s declaration of victory in the US presidential election before all the votes have been counted.

In a press conference at the White House in the early hours of Wednesday morning Trump openly questioned the legitimacy of mail-in ballots and threatened to go to the Supreme Court as his Democrat rival, Joe Biden, closed the gap in several swing states.

Trump denounced the vote as a ‘fraud on the American people’ and an ’embarrassment to our country’, but produced no evidence of electoral fraud and did not specify how the Supreme Court might be asked to intervene.

Jesse Klaver, leader of opposition party GroenLinks, said the events in the US showed ‘how dangerous it is when a president undermines democracy by claiming victory before all the votes have been counted. The Dutch government must call on Trump to abide by the rules of democracy.’

Sjoerd Sjoerdsma, foreign affairs spokesman for coalition party D66, pressed foreign minister Stef Blok and his European colleagues not to recognise Trump’s declaration of victory. The prime minister of Slovenia, Janesz Janša, is the only European Union leader so far to congratulate Trump.

‘It’s not for us to choose the American president, but it is our job to ensure our democratic partners stick to the rules. Blok must make plain, together with our European colleagues, that we cannot recognise Trump’s declaration of victory and that all votes must be counted.’

Not all Dutch politicians were critical of Trump’s statement: Joost Eerdmans, alderman with populist party Leefbaar Rotterdam and a candidate for Forum for Democracy in next year’s general election, tweeted: ‘Whatever the ultimate outcome, nobody other than Trump is the moral winner of the 2020 US Elections’.

Netherlands-based pundits said that the US election would ultimately lead to further polarisation in the United States and diminish its status further on the world stage. Growing polarisation

James Kennedy, the American-born and raised professor of modern history at Utrecht University, told Trouw that the election confirmed the trend that has been evident since the turn of the century.

‘Democrats don’t seem to understand that a man they view as incompetent and narcissistic is still so attractive to many Americans. But many people have made progress economically in the last few years, and they noticed the difference in their wallets – at least until corona struck. ‘Many people see Trump as a protector, the president who keeps them from socialism and riots by leftist demonstrators.’

Security expert Rob de Wijk said a Trump victory would accelerate European integration as the EU looked to fill the gap left by a retreating America, while even a win for Biden would only slow the corrosion of American influence.

‘Biden has said that traditional alliances need to be strengthened,’ De Wijk, founder of The Hague Centre of Strategic Studies at Leiden University, told De Volkskrant.

That’s all very well, but what people often forget is that as vice-president under Obama, Biden was the architect of the reorientation of America towards Asia. Biden’s rhetoric may be different, but even under his presidency the relative importance of Nato to the Americans will diminish.’

Conservative trend Economic commentator Kees de Kort said the American public had become more conservative in the last four years. There had been no sweeping change to the balance of power in Congress and no sign of significant economic reforms by either party to support those hit by the coronavirus crisis.

‘America is divided, so there is no broad majority for the programme,’ he wrote on BNR’s website. ‘I don’t think much is going to change.’

In De Telegraaf, meanwhile, columnist Roderick Veelo argued that Trump’s achievements had been blurred by ‘a relentless flood of accusations and rumours’ in the media.

‘Journalists, commentators as well as news consumers in this country are suffering from Trump derangement syndrome, in an advanced stage,’ he said. ‘Even a neutral article about Trump is scarcely to be found.

‘We may have to wait a while for the final election results, but Trump is not badly placed. So permit yourself a little nuance in the coming four years instead of another four years of having your judgment tilted towards one side.’
.

what some of Dutch MP's, and Dutch political experts think of the 2020 us elections, and regarding Trump's weird speech

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 01:46 PM
Because he runs his mouth the most?

Good job his mouth doesn't have bone spurs too.

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 01:48 PM
R-r-r-r-reeeemix

1324286193106898944

arista
05-11-2020, 01:56 PM
Happy Cat

arista
05-11-2020, 01:58 PM
Georgia

Trump 49.68%

biden 49.09%

arista
05-11-2020, 02:02 PM
OHIO
also going to Trump

And Alaska
Trump is well ahead
of Biden

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 02:05 PM
nothing to panic yet though

but no matter which side you're on, to see everything so close call, shows how divided america is

Captain.Remy
05-11-2020, 02:07 PM
Trump will probably take Georgia and Pennsylvania, and Biden will probably take Nevada and Arizona, making our grandpa Biden the winner.

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 02:09 PM
Trump will probably take Georgia and Pennsylvania, and Biden will probably take Nevada and Arizona, making our grandpa Biden the winner.

few areas in Pennsylvania which Biden has most votes, are Pittsburgh (to name a major one) and that one is mail-in vote heavy


i still so hope Biden wins, however then they should go on high alert for any attacks, cause those trump supporters really genuinely scare me

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 02:09 PM
It's looking like Pennsylvania will turn for Biden which will clinch it. Georgia will be really close by time all votes are counted.

arista
05-11-2020, 02:10 PM
Trump will probably take Georgia and Pennsylvania, and Biden will probably take Nevada and Arizona, making our grandpa Biden the winner.

Yes
https://news.sky.com/story/us-election-joe-biden-closes-in-on-donald-trump-in-battleground-of-georgia-as-white-house-race-heats-up-12124085

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 02:10 PM
I think if trump holds PA then he will be president.

user104658
05-11-2020, 02:14 PM
Betting odds for Trump to win are now higher than at any point in 2016 (flitting between 11/2 and 6/1). If I hadn't already bet, I'd be betting now. I can see several paths to Trump staying in the White House.

Important to note: The bet on almost all sites is NOT "to win the election" - it's to be President in Jan 2021. That means bookies will have to pay no matter the route - i.e. if Trump retains the presidency through being ****ing dodgy then it still counts.

And in my gut, I think this is far from over. Trump cheats and Republicans don't care.

Sadly I can still see several paths to Trump still being prez next year.

arista
05-11-2020, 02:17 PM
I think if trump holds PA then he will be president.


how nice

arista
05-11-2020, 02:19 PM
NYC Tax Evasion is ready to charge Trump
if he is no longer President.


So he better Fly to Scotland
as soon as he can.

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 02:20 PM
Nevada = 6

Arizona = 11

so yes those two are crucial for Biden, and then he has reached 270

SherzyK
05-11-2020, 02:21 PM
Any updates?

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 02:22 PM
currently at popular vote (does not mean too much, but it would be nice to have a president who wins in crucial states and popular vote for once again unlike 2016)

Biden 50.5%

Trump 47.6%

bots
05-11-2020, 02:27 PM
Any updates?

they are still confident of taking PA which would win it

Still confident in Arizona

Silly close in Georgia

SherzyK
05-11-2020, 02:31 PM
they are still confident of taking PA which would win it

Still confident in Arizona

Silly close in Georgia

The waiting is the worst part. Going to sleep last night, confident that the counting would have been done only to wake up 7 hours later and nothings changed

https://universe.absolutebritney.com/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhi9gpzJ2g1qf2w41o1_500.gif&key=d24957ef23c2daadb789318d8afec4205ed0aabcc5209c b6643145db9784778c

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 02:33 PM
they are still confident of taking PA which would win it

Still confident in Arizona

Silly close in Georgia

Biden has 70k lead in Arizona


Trump has a 20k lead in Georgia, so yeah that is very close

Oliver_W
05-11-2020, 02:35 PM
Betting odds for Trump to win are now higher than at any point in 2016 (flitting between 11/2 and 6/1). If I hadn't already bet, I'd be betting now. I can see several paths to Trump staying in the White House.

Important to note: The bet on almost all sites is NOT "to win the election" - it's to be President in Jan 2021. That means bookies will have to pay no matter the route - i.e. if Trump retains the presidency through being ****ing dodgy then it still counts.

And in my gut, I think this is far from over. Trump cheats and Republicans don't care.

Sadly I can still see several paths to Trump still being prez next year.
Serious?! I thought by now Trump was basically history now...

Even if he does somehow swing it, the difference in popular vote is like 3% :joker: While a winner has only lost the PV twice before, the gap's never been that big!

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 02:37 PM
213
20
16
=
249

so even with PA, Georgia Trump has got not enough by far

Oliver_W
05-11-2020, 02:37 PM
The waiting is the worst part. Going to sleep last night, confident that the counting would have been done only to wake up 7 hours later and nothings changed

https://universe.absolutebritney.com/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhi9gpzJ2g1qf2w41o1_500.gif&key=d24957ef23c2daadb789318d8afec4205ed0aabcc5209c b6643145db9784778c

I was finding that odd, it feels like they've been 253 v 214 for about a year now :joker: Unless the map thing I'm looking at takes a while to update not even the percentages of votes counted have budged...

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 02:43 PM
Alaska would put trump then at 254, so yeah he needs Arizona, and its not looking like that will happen (knocks on wood)

so yeah the best thing what can happen now (for all our stress levels) is for confirmation of Biden winning Arizona, so Trump misses out on those crucial points

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 02:45 PM
Basically Trump has only one way to get the votes, and Biden has a few.

DouglasS
05-11-2020, 02:46 PM
Even if Biden gets 70% of the remaining Georgia ballots he will lose it. He needs more than 75%, which is looking very difficult.

There’s only a 18k difference, but there is only about 50k ballots to be counted, meaning to overtake he needs 35k of those 50k ballots compared with trump getting less than 15k.

Yea Biden is closing the gap, getting around 65-70% of postal votes, but to pull off 75% would be difficult

bots
05-11-2020, 02:47 PM
I was finding that odd, it feels like they've been 253 v 214 for about a year now :joker: Unless the map thing I'm looking at takes a while to update not even the percentages of votes counted have budged...

they all worked for 48 hours straight, so they were all basically exhausted and went home for a kip i think :laugh:

Oliver_W
05-11-2020, 02:49 PM
they all worked for 48 hours straight, so they were all basically exhausted and went home for a kip i think :laugh:

hmm okay, I didn't realise they were given sleep breaks :laugh: I'd have thought it'd be in shifts so there's always counters, but heyho!

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 02:50 PM
Even if Biden gets 70% of the remaining Georgia ballots he will lose it. He needs more than 75%, which is looking very difficult.

There’s only a 18k difference, but there is only about 50k ballots to be counted, meaning to overtake he needs 35k of those 50k ballots compared with trump getting less than 15k.

Yea Biden is closing the gap, getting around 65-70% of postal votes, but to pull off 75% would be difficult

Welcome to the genuine discussion.

Samm
05-11-2020, 02:51 PM
About Georgia!

1324359696514514945

60K+ votes left, and all mail ins! great for biden. let’s go democracy :)

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 02:51 PM
Basically Trump has only one way to get the votes, and Biden has a few.

Biden can also get to 290 in theory

since he is gaining ground in PA (i saw what CNN showed us just now in that hour by hour graphic yesterday till now)

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 02:54 PM
Biden can also get to 290 in theory

since he is gaining ground in PA (i saw what CNN showed us just now in that hour by hour graphic yesterday till now)

In theory he can still hit 306 semi-realistically, although not likely.

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 03:00 PM
Arizona, it gets a little tighter now and 450k votes left to be counted so Trump could still take that, but not if there are 226k Biden votes, then he has the majority there

so still kinda stressful over there

Tom4784
05-11-2020, 03:01 PM
https://media3.giphy.com/media/144ojDdHcjnKNO/200.gif

I'm so sick of all of this now. GET YOUR ASSES IN GEAR, REMAINING STATES.

Oliver_W
05-11-2020, 03:02 PM
In theory he can still hit 306 semi-realistically, although not likely.

That'd be better than a close one, if it came down to one or two states it won't be over for a looong time, whereas if Trump gets totally butt****ed there's more chance that will be the end of it.

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 03:05 PM
That'd be better than a close one, if it came down to one or two states it won't be over for a looong time, whereas if Trump gets totally butt****ed there's more chance that will be the end of it.

I agree, anything close he has a chance to con with all the court packing he's been doing, but if he needs to argue in multiple states it's far less likely he gets anyone to take him seriously.

SherzyK
05-11-2020, 03:09 PM
https://media3.giphy.com/media/144ojDdHcjnKNO/200.gif

I'm so sick of all of this now. GET YOUR ASSES IN GEAR, REMAINING STATES.

https://media.tenor.com/images/f459500e8765505021b964a1a4f0ebba/tenor.gif

Cherie
05-11-2020, 03:12 PM
They need to knock posting votes on polling day on the head, its ridiculous, what if theres a load of votes stuck in some sorting office :worry:

bots
05-11-2020, 03:18 PM
They need to knock posting votes on polling day on the head, its ridiculous, what if theres a load of votes stuck in some sorting office :worry:


There is a federal court case where there were thousands of missing ballots at post offices. The judge told them to do a sweep and deliver them to polling stations, and the boss of the post office (trump appointment) ignored it. They were ordered to do it again yesterday. The judge is losing patience, if they mess him around more, people will be going to jail

It would have a very big impact on the results in Florida and Texas

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 03:20 PM
There is a federal court case where there were thousands of missing ballots at post offices. The judge told them to do a sweep and deliver them to polling stations, and the boss of the post office (trump appointment) ignored it. They were ordered to do it again yesterday. The judge is losing patience, if they mess him around more, people will be going to jail

It would have a very big impact on the results in Florida and Texas

Bloody hell, democracy my ass

Tom4784
05-11-2020, 03:23 PM
I agree, anything close he has a chance to con with all the court packing he's been doing, but if he needs to argue in multiple states it's far less likely he gets anyone to take him seriously.

Luckily, so far, I think most of the Trump appointees have been ruling without bias, I think I remember them siding with abortion laws in an abortion issue a while back despite everyone thinking they wouldn't.

I can't see them backing Trump out of loyalty, considering their own positions aren't at risk if he stays or goes, but they probably would be if they ruled against the facts.

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 03:27 PM
Luckily, so far, I think most of the Trump appointees have been ruling without bias, I think I remember them siding with abortion laws in an abortion issue a while back despite everyone thinking they wouldn't.

I can't see them backing Trump out of loyalty, considering their own positions aren't at risk if he stays or goes, but they probably would be if they ruled against the facts.

If they were found guilty of actually messing with mail they would be in huge trouble as well, isn't that a federal offense?

Tom4784
05-11-2020, 03:29 PM
If they were found guilty of actually messing with mail they would be in huge trouble as well, isn't that a federal offense?

Yup, if or when Biden wins, there's gonna be a lot of people in these high positions ending up in orange jumpsuits.

user104658
05-11-2020, 03:32 PM
213
20
16
=
249

so even with PA, Georgia Trump has got not enough by far

He's at 214

+20 + 16 = 250

You missed North Carolina (15) and Alaska (3)

= 268

And he's looking to flip Arizona (11) which IMO is very possible

= 279 (Trump wins)

He's demanding recounts elsewhere etc but I think those are less likely to result in anything.

Anyway - Biden needs to either KEEP Arizona and win NV for a total of 270 - or flip Pennsylvania which alone puts him at 273 (both Biden win scenarios). He MIGHT keep both AND flip PA which would give him 290 - a more decisive win.

I don't see any other realistic voting scenarios.

However I think we're in for several weeks of Trump trying to upend multiple states if the election is called for Biden. This becomes LESS likely the further over 270 Biden goes.

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 03:36 PM
Luckily, so far, I think most of the Trump appointees have been ruling without bias, I think I remember them siding with abortion laws in an abortion issue a while back despite everyone thinking they wouldn't.

I can't see them backing Trump out of loyalty, considering their own positions aren't at risk if he stays or goes, but they probably would be if they ruled against the facts.

The abortion laws were a supreme court issue when the court was 5-4, and it was the existing justice (Roberts) who was the deciding vote. It's 6-3 now, and Gorsuch and Kavanagh both gave opinions last week which seemed like providing a path to have votes thrown out. ACB has been trying to stop people voting for most of her career.

user104658
05-11-2020, 03:39 PM
A controversial addendum: If Trump IS going to retain the presidency, it would be better for everyone if he wins the electoral college vote today without challenge (keeping the current reds and either AZ or NV flipping).

If the vote is called for Biden and overturned later in the courts in Trump's favour, there is going to be absolute chaos.

Samm
05-11-2020, 04:33 PM
I think people need to be reminded. There is no evidence of voter fraud, voter fraud is likely by a percentage of 0.03% in all elections. Recounts also don’t bring up anything new unless the vote is under 1k.

DouglasS
05-11-2020, 04:39 PM
About Georgia!

1324359696514514945

60K+ votes left, and all mail ins! great for biden. let’s go democracy :)

I can understand why Trump and his supports beleive it is fraud when it’s almost universally reported that 99% of ballots have been counted in Georgia, and then suddenly it goes back down to 96% as suddenly there are more ballots unexpectedly. That is obviously causing confusion.

DouglasS
05-11-2020, 04:41 PM
Trump has done wonders for the economy and employment. I hope Biden doesn’t ruin trumps amazing progress.

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 04:42 PM
down to .3 in Georgia now with 15k total votes left, although it's believed that there are a sh1t ton of votes from Atalanta (heavy biden) caught up in the post office balls up.

Morgan.
05-11-2020, 04:42 PM
Trump has done wonders for the economy and employment. I hope Biden doesn’t ruin trumps amazing progress.

Shame he did nothing for the environment (except set it back further)

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 04:44 PM
Shame he did nothing for the environment (except set it back further)

He did less for the economy and employment than his predecessor too. I think you have to excuse people who only want to impress their friends.

Amy Jade
05-11-2020, 04:47 PM
He did less for the economy and employment than his predecessor too. I think you have to excuse people who only want to impress their friends.

:laugh:

Oliver_W
05-11-2020, 04:49 PM
I can understand why Trump and his supports beleive it is fraud when it’s almost universally reported that 99% of ballots have been counted in Georgia, and then suddenly it goes back down to 96% as suddenly there are more ballots unexpectedly. That is obviously causing confusion.

In this case it's easy to see both sides - a bunch of overlooked ballots appearing, so many that they knock the total counted back by three percent, can seem a bit suspish, especially when they coincidentally take away one side's lead.

But things do get overlooked and mishandled, virtually any task is subject to human error.

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 04:53 PM
Worth a watch if you have a couple of mins.

1158569576168402945

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 04:55 PM
Biden about to take the lead in Georgia according to politico.

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 05:05 PM
https://i.insider.com/5ddc336bfd9db244c913783d?width=400&format=gif


1324371145735491586

Niamh.
05-11-2020, 05:06 PM
:laugh2:

Swan
05-11-2020, 05:07 PM
Some odds

Arizona -
Dem 1/3
Rep 5/2

Georgia -
Dem 8/13
Rep 5/4

Pennsylvania -
Dem 1/6
Rep 4/1

Nevada -
Dem 1/4
Rep 7/2

Basically, only one winner, barring a miracle (or cheating).

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2020, 05:23 PM
Worth a watch if you have a couple of mins.

1158569576168402945

that awful women is one of the main reasons Biden did not win by the expected whitewash

how ironic

DouglasS
05-11-2020, 05:24 PM
Bidens lead over Nevada has increased from 7k to 15k, and that’s all he needs to win.

He will probably win one of the other three states also, but Nevada seems like a certainty and his “winning” state

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 05:28 PM
that awful women is one of the main reasons Biden did not win by the expected whitewash

how ironic

What are you on about LT? The vote isn't even counted yet and one of the most popular dem politicians is the reason for what exactly?

I take it you didn't watch the video?

DouglasS
05-11-2020, 05:31 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324401527663058944?s=20

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 05:32 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324401527663058944?s=20

Hillary last elections when she lost to this crybaby :hehe:

i kinda hope she's following this drama from trumpy these elections

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 05:35 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324401527663058944?s=20

They're stopping you, don't worry Donald.

GoldHeart
05-11-2020, 05:50 PM
They're stopping you, don't worry Donald.

:joker: I love that Biden has got him shaking in his boots .

Trump underestimated & mocked Biden , and he's closing in on the Georgia lead :hee: .

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 05:55 PM
yes GoldHeart, and Biden also winning terrain in Pennsylvania


Arizona still looking decent lead there for Biden, and Nevada too, those are two main targets, everything else is a extra

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 05:57 PM
IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE ONE TERM PRESIDENT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmE8zuUXUAUBnaQ?format=png&name=small

Nicky91
05-11-2020, 06:00 PM
IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE ONE TERM PRESIDENT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmE8zuUXUAUBnaQ?format=png&name=small

i don't think he would've said this if it was other way around


also you can notice difference from Joe and his wife, compared to Trump on social media, way more down to earth

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1324406121721786369

Dogeatdog
05-11-2020, 06:00 PM
IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE ONE TERM PRESIDENT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmE8zuUXUAUBnaQ?format=png&name=small

https://media1.giphy.com/media/13A7YlLvYVDnmU/giphy_s.gif

rusticgal
05-11-2020, 06:01 PM
From a non political point of view I have found Trump a breath of fresh air as President and he really set the cat amongst the pigeons when he won. We saw a non stereotypical President...someone who said it how it was whether you agreed with him or not.
I thought Biden was going to walk this...this predictable man who really lacks character and looks like he is ready for retirement rather than running the most powerful country in the world...I think Mickey mouse would have won up against trump...:laugh:

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 06:04 PM
From a non political point of view I have found Trump a breath of fresh air as President and he really set the cat amongst the pigeons when he won. We saw a non stereotypical President...someone who said it how it was whether you agreed with him or not.
I thought Biden was going to walk this...this predictable man who really lacks character and looks like he is ready for retirement rather than running the most powerful country in the world...I think Mickey mouse would have won up against trump...:laugh:

22,000 lies in just under 4 years is as far away from telling it how it is as you can possibly get. It's the definition of telling it how it isn't.

Vanessa
05-11-2020, 06:09 PM
I think Biden has won it.
Trump is still one of the richest men on the planet, so he still has a lot to be thankful for.

arista
05-11-2020, 06:24 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmEN-2mX0AA2fa5?format=jpg&name=small

Amy Jade
05-11-2020, 06:26 PM
I think Biden has won it.
Trump is still one of the richest men on the planet, so he still has a lot to be thankful for.

Now he's tasted the power of Presidency money will never be enough for his ego.

Vanessa
05-11-2020, 06:30 PM
Now he's tasted the power of Presidency money will never be enough for his ego.

True.

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2020, 06:35 PM
USA Man asks his girlfriend (who lives in Europe) to fill in a map of the USA. These are the results


https://i.redd.it/6gjgykmrtfx51.png

GoldHeart
05-11-2020, 06:36 PM
IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE ONE TERM PRESIDENT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmE8zuUXUAUBnaQ?format=png&name=small

Dead :joker: but I'm still waiting until everything is official
Come on Biden :fc:

Denver
05-11-2020, 06:44 PM
Trhmp wants a recount but you are only allowed a recount if your less then a percentage behind on a state

SherzyK
05-11-2020, 06:46 PM
She’s coming

https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/62dea64/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F5f%2F2b%2 F6279849d45bdb556d66f5e5d1d76%2Fred-h-15176325.jpg

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2020, 06:58 PM
1324382829535498244

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 07:07 PM
1324382829535498244

It was reversed.

SherzyK
05-11-2020, 07:08 PM
1324382829535498244

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnnaturalGorgeousGrayfox-max-1mb.gif

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2020, 07:11 PM
it was reversed.

1324401527663058944

arista
05-11-2020, 07:18 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmDqV6zXYAAZ6QB?format=jpg&name=small

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 07:18 PM
1324401527663058944

.

SherzyK
05-11-2020, 07:22 PM
So when are we actually gonna get a result for one of the remaining states?

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 07:25 PM
So when are we actually gonna get a result for one of the remaining states?

Pennsylvania believe they will be done before the end of their day.

Ammi
05-11-2020, 07:25 PM
...Trump is saying I See Dead People...?...votes are being counted from those who are deceased...?...

Underscore
05-11-2020, 07:29 PM
1324370223068315648

arista
05-11-2020, 07:32 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmEMcCAWoAI4Tik?format=jpg&name=small

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2020, 07:32 PM
1323784211262820352

Ammi
05-11-2020, 07:32 PM
1324370223068315648

https://media.giphy.com/media/sbnHm4yZKFmpy/giphy.gif

arista
05-11-2020, 07:33 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmEMcCAXYAADRBh?format=jpg&name=small

arista
05-11-2020, 07:33 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmEMcB9XYAY_ANd?format=jpg&name=small

MTVN
05-11-2020, 07:34 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmEMcCAXYAADRBh?format=jpg&name=small

The Post >>> The Times

Oliver_W
05-11-2020, 07:46 PM
Random but I hate when headlines don't have the word "and" in them, just a comma.

Beso
05-11-2020, 07:52 PM
You should all immigrate to florida..get the numbers down next time.

Swan
05-11-2020, 08:00 PM
Trump should just concede at this point, he had a good run, he won when no one thought he would, lightening wasn't going to strike twice.

Biden's win is inevitable now. It's the equivalent of a football team winning 5-0 in injury time, Trump needs the biggest and most unrealistic comeback of all time!

Elliot
05-11-2020, 08:00 PM
1324370223068315648

Omg lmao

DouglasS
05-11-2020, 08:00 PM
You should all immigrate to florida..get the numbers down next time.

Florida and Texans are the nicest Americans I’ve come across when I travelled America, the people don’t need changing there

DouglasS
05-11-2020, 08:02 PM
1324370223068315648

He got cheered :clap1:

user104658
05-11-2020, 08:07 PM
Biden now 1/20 in the odds. Lol. Trump sitting around 9/1

Oliver_W
05-11-2020, 08:09 PM
Biden now 1/20 in the odds. Lol. Trump sitting around 9/1

Jesus, a Trump win would put the bookies out of business :laugh:

and they'd deserve it :hehe:

Swan
05-11-2020, 08:14 PM
How is Trump leading in PA, but the odds so overwhelming in favour in Biden? Do they expect most the votes counted will go to Biden?

Oliver_W
05-11-2020, 08:16 PM
How is Trump leading in PA, but the odds so overwhelming in favour in Biden? Do they expect most the votes counted will go to Biden?

Probably, if most/all of the remaining are mail-in votes.

Brother Leon
05-11-2020, 08:16 PM
How is Trump leading in PA, but the odds so overwhelming in favour in Biden? Do they expect most the votes counted will go to Biden?

Lots of Philadelphia and other favourable regions still to be counted. I think even Trump knows he’s about to lose it.

Black Dagger
05-11-2020, 08:16 PM
How is Trump leading in PA, but the odds so overwhelming in favour in Biden? Do they expect most the votes counted will go to Biden?

Yes. They were mail in votes and Trump spent most of the election shooting down the idea so the election has heavily gone in favour of Biden due to that.

Swan
05-11-2020, 08:17 PM
Probably, if most/all of the remaining are mail-in votes.

Lots of Philadelphia and other favourable regions still to be counted. I think even Trump knows he’s about to lose it.

Ok thanks, just trying to make sense of it all, crazy stuff :laugh:

The Slim Reaper
05-11-2020, 08:29 PM
Ok thanks, just trying to make sense of it all, crazy stuff :laugh:

Tump and Biden are doing GTA 3 speedruns. Trump starts his first and finishes with a WR. Then Biden starts 5mins after Trump starts. Trump - I was winning, I have a world record, it's the best world record, nobody's ever seen a world record like it, believe me.

Biden finishes then beats his world record.

Trump - he can't have the world record, I have the world record. He cheated.

:smug:

Swan
05-11-2020, 08:33 PM
Tump and Biden are doing GTA 3 speedruns. Trump starts his first and finishes with a WR. Then Biden starts 5mins after Trump starts. Trump - I was winning, I have a world record, it's the best world record, nobody's ever seen a world record like it, believe me.

Biden finishes then beats his world record.

Trump - he can't have the world record, I have the world record. He cheated.

:smug:

Now you're talking my language :dance::joker:

Oh and fyi, that kinda happened once, someone had Xbox WR, so he said i couldn't claim any WR's as he had better console times....So i just went and beat his Xbox time, problem solved :smug:

Swan
05-11-2020, 08:40 PM
Ok more dumb questions, why on the Sky News map of the US is Nebraska and Maine blue and red stripes?

user104658
05-11-2020, 08:43 PM
Tump and Biden are doing GTA 3 speedruns. Trump starts his first and finishes with a WR. Then Biden starts 5mins after Trump starts. Trump - I was winning, I have a world record, it's the best world record, nobody's ever seen a world record like it, believe me.



Biden finishes then beats his world record.



Trump - he can't have the world record, I have the world record. He cheated.



:smug:"Uhh how can he have the world record if I finished before him? Very strange."

Oliver_W
05-11-2020, 08:44 PM
Ok more dumb questions, why on the Sky News map of the US is Nebraska and Maine blue and red stripes?

On most maps it's a flip.

user104658
05-11-2020, 08:45 PM
Ok more dumb questions, why on the Sky News map of the US is Nebraska and Maine blue and red stripes?They split their votes for various weird historical reasons (so they can have both dem and rep electoral college members) whereas most states vote as one block of all the same party.

Saph
05-11-2020, 08:46 PM
why is every map saying something different.. is there like an official correct version?

Swan
05-11-2020, 08:48 PM
On most maps it's a flip.

They split their votes for various weird historical reasons (so they can have both dem and rep electoral college members) whereas most states vote as one block of all the same party.

Thanks guys, makes sense :)

user104658
05-11-2020, 09:00 PM
why is every map saying something different.. is there like an official correct version?No, the votes technically aren't official until every vote is counted and verified and the win isn't official until the electoral college officially elects the president... but USUALLY the losing candidate would concede defeat before that's necessary (it still happens as a formality).

Jack_
05-11-2020, 09:04 PM
why is every map saying something different.. is there like an official correct version?

Not really, all networks have their own data analysts (although I think many employ the same company, hence similar maps) who will “call” states when they think one candidate has reached a threshold where their opponent cannot mathematically or realistically (given historical precedence) overtake them. It’s a little different to the UK where they actually count all of the votes, and then the returning officer declares an official result

Counting for several days, even weeks in the States is not unusual, in fact it’s the norm. The reason this election hasn’t been “called” yet like it normally would’ve been is because of the disproportionately high number of mail-in ballots (cos covid, obvs). Different states have different rules about when they can be counted and accepted until

That’s the general gist

Jack_
05-11-2020, 09:06 PM
It’s also fairly amusing that the first network (and still one of the only ones) to call Arizona was Fox News :joker:

There’s only one person who dislikes losers more than Donald Trump, and it’s Rupert Murdoch

Samm
05-11-2020, 09:17 PM
Trump’s lead in Pennsylvania has now shrunk too under 100K. It was 750k+ like 24 hours ago!

Samm
05-11-2020, 09:17 PM
(If/when biden wins Pennsylvania, he wins the election)