Sir Keir Starmer & his Labour Party

[joeysteele]

There's no need for new prisons.


No Joey
New Prisons will be built.

Mega Contracted

I disagree.
There's way too many people sent into prison who could be dealt with in other ways.
I totally disagree with you on that.

Lots of funding could be saved.

[Zizu]

7 July 2024
Home Secretary Yvette Cooper has set out the first steps towards setting up a UK Border Security Command, which the government hopes will reduce small boat crossings in the English Channel.
Work to recruit an "exceptional leader" to head the body will begin on Monday, with the government preparing a bill to create counter-terror powers aimed at tackling organised immigration crime.

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Mmmmm

Let me take a wild guess .. .. would his name be Jonathan Ashworth ??


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[Zizu]

I’m seeing rumours online suggesting that Labour’s first scandal maybe just around the corner… apparently involving a new, young MP


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[bots]

it's inevitable that there will be scandals and there always will be. Labour haven't been in charge when social media is as strong as it is. Also, the more mp's you have, the more trouble you will have. It's relatively easy to control a small opposition group that the media isn't really interested in

[Zizu]

“ Labour making a difference already “

https://x.com/DVATW/status/1810217581447372813


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[Zizu]

it's inevitable that there will be scandals and there always will be. Labour haven't been in charge when social media is as strong as it is. Also, the more mp's you have, the more trouble you will have. It's relatively easy to control a small opposition group that the media isn't really interested in


Fair points


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[Crimson Dynamo]

it's inevitable that there will be scandals and there always will be. Labour haven't been in charge when social media is as strong as it is. Also, the more mp's you have, the more trouble you will have. It's relatively easy to control a small opposition group that the media isn't really interested in
Good point about Labour in charge and social media

Could be interesting to see what now plays out

[The Slim Reaper]

I’m seeing rumours online suggesting that Labour’s first scandal maybe just around the corner… apparently involving a new, young MP


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You quoted my post yesterday pointing out exactly who it was. :laugh:

[Zizu]

You quoted my post yesterday pointing out exactly who it was. :laugh:


Ahhh but since then I’ve seen something that ‘put meat on the bone’ so to speak


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[Parmy]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Roq3BJh-Sh4?si=ebBV1TJQxGqBomYQ

[Parmy]

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[Zizu]

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[Oliver_W]

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So councillors will be expected to work twice as long?

[arista]

Yes Councils need a full week
like the rest of us

[joeysteele]

Depends what's called a full week anymore.
Decades ago full time working was anything of 40/45 hours a week.

Now it's barely 30.

I don't see anything too difficult to re-arrange working procedures to 4 days instead of 5.
In fact the council in my area.
You can't get them past 1pm on a Friday.
Plus council workers in the area are finished by 2pm too.

So they're almost down to 4 and a half day week almost now.
Obviously any care aspects of council duty will likely need to be exempt.

However it overall makes sense I'd say.

[bots]

Council services already have defined schedules.

With websites etc, is there a need at all for full time council administrators. All the website queries can be contracted to outside agencies. There really shouldn't be much council administration these days

[arista]

If Labour Build
Massive Amounts of New Houses
they must build a Doctors within it.

And ensure the ground can take the new sewer
loads.

[joeysteele]

If Labour Build
Massive Amounts of New Houses
they must build a Doctors within it.

And ensure the ground can take the new sewer
loads.

Indeed.
Plus they know that anyway.

[Zizu]

Sooooo

Apparently the first thing the government has done is to agree to pay Rwanda the outstanding balance of the £240m agreed to house the refugees, even though they have also said that the scheme is now cancelled. I would love someone to pay me that for not doing anything[emoji1751]


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[The Slim Reaper]

Sooooo

Apparently the first thing the government has done is to agree to pay Rwanda the outstanding balance of the £240m agreed to house the refugees, even though they have also said that the scheme is now cancelled. I would love someone to pay me that for not doing anything[emoji1751]


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https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-shameless-farce-of-boris-johnsons-attempt-to-send-refugees-to-rwanda


The Shameless Farce of Boris Johnson’s Attempt to Send Refugees to Rwanda

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[Zizu]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-shameless-farce-of-boris-johnsons-attempt-to-send-refugees-to-rwanda


The Shameless Farce of Boris Johnson’s Attempt to Send Refugees to Rwanda

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Wasn’t Boris long gone before that batshit crazy idea came to light ?


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[The Slim Reaper]

Wasn’t Boris long gone before that batshit crazy idea came to light ?


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It was his batshit crazy policy.

[Zizu]

It was his batshit crazy policy.


It appears to be a Danish idea from 2021 ..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240710/952fb3a895b8f08e60449667c4f9d356.png


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[The Slim Reaper]

It appears to be a Danish idea from 2021 ..


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Denmark didn't get to form a government in the uk; Boris did.

Boris was PM in 2019.

[Zizu]

Denmark didn't get to form a government in the uk; Boris did.

Boris was PM in 2019.


You kinda suggested it was his idea ..


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[arista]

Yes,
Clever of Denmark to use Rwanda

Now Labour UK,
have canceled the UK deal.

[Zizu]

Didn’t realise Starmer was a warmongerer

Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
.

“ Berlin here we come! “


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[Ammi]

…(..I think…)…the way I’m interpreting what media articles are reporting is that the first thing was Kier Starmer scrapping the Rwanda plan and the Rwandan government saying…‘you’re not getting your money back, don’t even think about it, baby…Rishi gave us that £240 million and we’re keeping it…’…/…or similar words…which is t quite the same as agreeing to pay…recollections may vary, I reckon…

[Zizu]

Maybe Starmer is like Southgate ?

Completely useless but very lucky ??

Boris took control and was faced with a once in a 100 year coronavirus Covid19 .,

Starmer takes over and we fluke our way to the Euro Final !!


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[bots]

Maybe Starmer is like Southgate ?

Completely useless but very lucky ??

Boris took control and was faced with a once in a 100 year coronavirus Covid19 .,

Starmer takes over and we fluke our way to the Euro Final !!


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Boris was an incompetent lying fraud

You keep saying you have no political allegiance Zizu, but you have spent the time since before the election attacking labour at every opportunity.

[Zizu]

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1813084295780790773


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[Zizu]

Boris was an incompetent lying fraud

You keep saying you have no political allegiance Zizu, but you have spent the time since before the election attacking labour at every opportunity.


I’ve always had a soft spot for Boris the person not the politician


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[Zizu]

How are things going under the new labour regime ??


Anything of note to discuss ?


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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

iGKQapswGaY


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[user104658]

How are things going under the new labour regime ??


Anything of note to discuss ?


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Don't be silly there's nothing about either of these events that would be any different under any government let alone a brand new one :joker:

[Zizu]

Don't be silly there's nothing about either of these events that would be any different under any government let alone a brand new one :joker:


Well they blamed everything that went wrong on Boris and the Tories … including Covid19 which nearly killed him !

Even now they’re saying the Tories should have been better prepared … for a coronavirus that comes round every 100 years !


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[Zizu]

“ Labour making a difference from Day 1 “


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[Zizu]

Just gets better for Labour !!

https://x.com/rrnmedia/status/1814226169652183412?s=46


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[Zizu]

Starmer’s words are worthless


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[Zizu]

Labour making a difference .

Any more of these ideas and the Tories led by Boris will be back in power soon

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[smudgie]

Labour making a difference .

Any more of these ideas and the Tories led by Boris will be back in power soon

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Aye well, they have never been pensioner friendly to be fair.
You get what you vote for.:shrug:

[bots]

around 10 million pensioners will lose that benefit. Thats 10 million voters that are going to be pissed off and they haven't been in power a month

[Zizu]

https://x.com/actionbrexit/status/1818273528355139768?s=46


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[Zizu]

Well you were all sooo happy when Labour were elected to power ..


Things were going to be sooo much better ..starting from day 1 …


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Diversity is a value neutral word. Technically, addding a paedophile to a family vacation is diversifying it.

[Zizu]

Wtf is happening today !!
More stabbings and definite unrest

Time for this lot to show us what most in here claimed they were made of


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Labour and the leftists/MSM have been saying for years what a dangerous and terrible place Rwanda is

Now this week its a safe, modern Christian country.....

eh?


:skull:

[bots]

i have to say, i'm a bit sceptical about Rwanda. When a government has to go to the extreme of passing a law to declare it safe, it doesn't inspire much confidence

[Crimson Dynamo]

i have to say, i'm a bit sceptical about Rwanda. When a government has to go to the extreme of passing a law to declare it safe, it doesn't inspire much confidence

Arsenal have been actively telling the world to visit it for the past 4 seasons !

:laugh:

[Parmy]

Labour and the leftists/MSM have been saying for years what a dangerous and terrible place Rwanda is

Now this week its a safe, modern Christian country.....

eh?


:skull:

Oh yeah..that's true that.

What a waste of time it all is.

[Zizu]

We have the Incredibles looking after us

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[Zizu]

Oooops


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[Zizu]

Continuing the good start..

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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

Bloody hell !
Nearly 12,000 votes

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[Zizu]

Oooops


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[arista]

Wes getting tough

[Zizu]

Wes getting tough


There are calls for him to resign or be sacked


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[arista]

There are calls for him to resign or be sacked





Not on Main Media

[Parmy]

Why was he given the title Sir?

[arista]

Why was he given the title Sir?


Back when he was working Courts.


[During his tenure as
Director of Public Prosecutions and
head of the Crown Prosecution Service,
he dealt with a number of major cases,
including the Stephen Lawrence
murder case.

He was appointed
Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath (KCB)
in the 2014 New Year Honours for services
to law and criminal justice.]

[Zizu]

Back when he was working Courts.


[During his tenure as
Director of Public Prosecutions and
head of the Crown Prosecution Service,
he dealt with a number of major cases,
including the Stephen Lawrence
murder case.

He was appointed
Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath (KCB)
in the 2014 New Year Honours for services
to law and criminal justice.]


Wasn’t he involved with the non prosecution of Jimmy SaVile or something ?


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[Parmy]

Wasn’t he involved with the non prosecution of Jimmy SaVile or something ?


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To get a knighthood after missing that opportunity...kinda says it all really.

[arista]

Wasn’t he involved with the non prosecution of Jimmy SaVile or something ?




Yes.

[bots]

people get handed knighthoods for lots of reasons not related to merit. One reason is because of the job you were appointed to. Surely by now, people understand that the honours system is a pile of horse manure and it always has been,

Even the way that the king/queen hand out titles is a disgusting remnant from the past

[GoldHeart]

people get handed knighthoods for lots of reasons not related to merit. One reason is because of the job you were appointed to. Surely by now, people understand that the honours system is a pile of horse manure and it always has been,

Even the way that the king/queen hand out titles is a disgusting remnant from the past

It's probably why some people refuse them .

[Parmy]

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[Parmy]

Remember this....

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/EiSzbk5AGMj3wjzT/

[Zizu]

Mmmmmmmm

BREAKING: Keir Starmer is being investigated by the POLICE following his electoral law breach last month.

The end is near for Labour


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[Zizu]

Mmmmm

Interesting - fastest to reach 100,000 signatures



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[arista]

Yes but it cannot force an Election
from one debate?

If they reach 100K

[bots]

all that means is that it becomes a debate item for consideration and labour would never lose if it came to a vote

[joeysteele]

What absolute nonsense.

Although in an election right now, the result would most likely be, a Labour/ Lib Dem coalition.
Which may have been a better option.
Certainly as to more listening being done.

This is ridiculous however, democracy couldn't really work like this.

[arista]

Terrible amount of hate posts on X

like this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdHNZ0hWsAAYkAx?format=jpg&name=small


https://x.com/search?q=%23StarmerOut&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

[joeysteele]

Terrible amount of hate posts on X

like this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdHNZ0hWsAAYkAx?format=jpg&name=small


https://x.com/search?q=%23StarmerOut&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

X and Facebook are absolutely vile places.

[Oliver_W]

Mmmmm

Interesting - fastest to reach 100,000 signatures



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:joker:

If that does get discussed/debated, it would amount to "hmmm, shall we call an election? Hmmm .... NOPE!"

As much as this crappy government needs its majority reduced, it won't happen yet. Though I can't see them lasting their full five years.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Mmmmm

Interesting - fastest to reach 100,000 signatures



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This petition has already reached 750,000 signatures in 24 hours.

It won’t be long before it passes 1 million.

[arista]

X and Facebook are absolutely vile places.



No I think
they are OK so long as you
do not venture on the Nutters

[arista]

This petition has already reached 750,000 signatures in 24 hours.

It won’t be long before it passes 1 million.



Yes LT.

One Debate in Parliament


Then What?

[MTVN]

We want Kemi in charge

[arista]

We want Kemi in charge


Next General Election
4 years or more
you can Vote

[joeysteele]

No I think
they are OK so long as you
do not venture on the Nutters

Nah sorry, I'm glad I'm not on either.
Wouldn't entertain them.

[arista]

Nah sorry, I'm glad I'm not on either.
Wouldn't entertain them.



I am also on BlueSky

Have tried that Joey

[user104658]

Imagine if a new GE was called every time some of the people who voted the other way made a petition to call one :joker:.

[bots]

it's also much harder to get rid of a labour leader than it is to dump a tory leader, so people are stuck with what they voted for :laugh:

[UserSince2005]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Zizu]

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[Zizu]

Holy sh1te

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[joeysteele]

We've always had the most ridiculous of energy costs.

In my view a part of the problem on that was the disastrous privatisation of energy in the 80s by Thatcher's Conservative governments.
Competition did not bring cheaper energy at all.

Other issues have not helped in recent years, however the UK costs remained shockingly higher than elsewhere under the last 14 years of Conservative led government.
Who DID nothing in all those years to improve things

So to now expect within months someone else to sort that mess out is both unreasonable and ridiculous.

However in my view, energy should be under public ownership.
It's still a very popular policy with voters, one of the strongest policies too of the Corbyn leadership.
Miliband floated the idea again of nationalisation as to energy, way back in 2013 but got cold feet on it.

The Blair/ Brown government wouldn't consider it in their time at all.

So the mess remains.
I doubt much will or could be done to combat our shocking energy costs after those scenarios.
Unless a government will admit the massive incompetence over energy over the last near 40 years of just letting greed rule more as to energy companies.
27 years of Cons, 13 years of Labour.

Corbyn was the only leader with the right policy on energy and that was to re- nationalise it and get back at least some control on costing of energy again.
However the Country rejected him TWICE on that, preferring to ensure an equally damaging Brexit mess.
Plus to support a more prejudiced attitude rising against other human beings from other Countries.

I myself think re- nationalising energy is still a strong part of the answer.
Because I can't see how any change can come into play otherwise.
The energy companies have it sown up and the regulator is utterly useless.

[James]

Holy sh1te

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I checked this out and numbers aren't accurate.

These are not average energy costs in each country. They are actually the wholesale prices of electricity per megawatt hour for a single hour in December 2022.


From https://fullfact.org/economy/energy-prices-europe-comparison/

[joeysteele]

:smug:I checked this out and numbers aren't accurate.



From https://fullfact.org/economy/energy-prices-europe-comparison/

Oh I don't doubt one second that you are right.
I rarely trust figures on most issues.
They can be made to say whatever the person wants them to say from their own positions.

I'm always reminded of the expression, there's lies, damned lies and then statistics.

However I would accept the UK has a disproportion of higher costs in bills for energy than many other Countries.

Sadly it seems less and less of what is being presented as fact is in fact more misleading than fact.
It's getting harder and harder to know what or even who to trust and believe now.
That's a massive worry, or should be.

[bots]

the other side of the prices across countries is that different countries have different methods of doing the accounting, some are state owned, some are heavily subsidised etc. Lets also not forget that everyone in the UK got help with their fuel bills when prices were high.

It's impossible to compare like with like across countries. Things like social services, the NHS, pensions, minimum wage, employment protection and childrens subsidies all affect what the real price is for anything. No country has the same baseline

[Zizu]

I checked this out and numbers aren't accurate.



From https://fullfact.org/economy/energy-prices-europe-comparison/


So how do we ACTUALLY rate in comparison

[Zizu]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

A former Senior Labour MP and LGBTQ activist was caught today by Facebook predator catchers.


https://x.com/Inevitablewest/status/1878135967183257923?t=Knb8j7SppHtLum62VgkGQA&s=19

Another paedo

[arista]

Because of the Labour Budget

A Construction Firm CEO
spoke on ITV1HD Lunch News

He said they are facing One Million Pounds
in extra costs

[Parmy]

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Yep...the best comparison yet.

As hated as brady and hindley, so they are.

[Crimson Dynamo]

MPs who voted in favour of allowing full term abortions :-

- 8 Conservatives
- ⁠4 Greens
- ⁠7 Independents (including Corbyn)
- ⁠291 Labour!
- ⁠63 Lib Dem’s

wicked

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[The Slim Reaper]

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