Sir Keir Starmer & his Labour Party

[arista]

Starmer wants to fudge the self id stuff and direct association with the snp would open up that issue as wide as a barn door


Yes the SNP
would bugger up
his Master Plan.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1655966081155047425/4xtXKKqP?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fvr6g_jXsAcvwRO?format=jpg&name=small

Tubby Starmer
enjoyed his small cake
after his interview with Beth Rigby.

[arista]

Starmer today
meeting Nurses
His own photo record.

[On International Nurses Day,
I am thinking of my mum,
who worked as a nurse in the NHS.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv6udhgWcAADWnT?format=jpg&name=small


https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1656953948756930561

[arista]

Starmer loves the Flags


https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1654754372025237511

[Crimson Dynamo]

hideous

[Oliver_W]

Talking about the Coronation is a good time to be a #Flaggot

[joeysteele]

Actually one of his better performances.
Struck a good and right cord.

Went on a bit too long maybe.
Still wish he had a key to wind him up a little.

To some however, he'd be damned for saying anything but also damned had he said nothing.

[bots]

"what the british people want is stability and change", change is the opposite of stability :laugh:

[joeysteele]

"what the british people want is stability and change", change is the opposite of stability :laugh:

That is usually right but if what's happening now is not stability, then change has to take place to bring about more or real stability.

Even recently, Liz Truss as PM created chaos.
To get even just some stability back in place change had to come about with a change of leader and policy.

[arista]

That is usually right but if what's happening now is not stability, then change has to take place to bring about more or real stability.

Even recently, Liz Truss as PM created chaos.
To get even just some stability back in place change had to come about with a change of leader and policy.


Yes
she still stands for that muck,



But today Blair is warning Starmer
it is a bigger mess he will face

[arista]

SkyNewsHD AM

Kent showed a lady
works as a shop assistant,
with a leg injury
not getting enough sick pay,
Who would eat Gravy and Bread

It sounds like War Time,
Joey.

[joeysteele]

SkyNewsHD AM

Kent showed a lady
works as a shop assistant,
with a leg injury
not getting enough sick pay,
Who would eat Gravy and Bread

It sounds like War Time,
Joey.

Things are becoming dire for more and more arista.

Unfortunately this governnents policies are not doing anything to address the mess things really are now.
Just getting worse too.

There's no real compassion I'm afraid from the Con government.
I'm stunned they even want to have made known instances like the one you've posted.
They're only giving lip service to the serious issues.
Then again look at the nonsense Sunak throws out at PMQs to really serious matters.

Labour isn't on the fully right road they should be to address completely the chaos that's building.
At least there'd be more compassionate in the policies which coupled with action will hopefully help more.

For more and more, this cost of living crisis is becoming a living nightmare.
With now far less overall government assistance to those on low incomes, even too to those on what was thought to be better incomes.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/13/00/70932541-12078999-image-m-9_1683935653937.jpg


[ANDREW NEIL: Britain could well be heading
for seismic electoral reform that'll keep
the left in power FOR EVER... And Starmer
may sign up to it without voters
even getting a say]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12078999/Britain-heading-seismic-electoral-reform-thatll-left-power.html?ico=related-replace-2


[You might think the British Left
would be a bit downhearted after
the local elections,
which were terrible for the Tories
but suggested Labour
would still struggle to win an
overall majority come
the General Election.
But not a bit of it.

They see the prospect of a hung Parliament
as prelude to a much bigger prize
than merely another
Labour government: the chance to install
and enshrine Left-of-centre government
for the foreseeable future — consigning
the Tories to the political wilderness for
at least a generation, perhaps for ever.]

[arista]

Starmer Now
Live on SkyNewsHD

Central London

Path Towards Power

[Liam-]

Can all the centrists stop pretending that Corbyn supporters are Tory enablers now that Starmer has branded himself and the current Labour Party ‘the real conservatives’ like come on, the bloke is determined to destroy the party for the benefit of sealing up the right wing vote, it’s a joke

[bots]

the reason that labour have moved to the middle right is because that's who the majority of people vote for. Neil Kinnock understood it but couldn't achieve it, Tony Blair did it and now Starmer will do it. The left can moan all they like, but they are simply unelectable

[arista]

Can all the centrists stop pretending that Corbyn supporters are Tory enablers now that Starmer has branded himself and the current Labour Party ‘the real conservatives’ like come on, the bloke is determined to destroy the party for the benefit of sealing up the right wing vote, it’s a joke


Well that Live Speech
was pure New Labour,



He wants Respect Back.

Corbyn Members
are getting kicked it, slowly

[arista]

the reason that labour have moved to the middle right is because that's who the majority of people vote for. Neil Kinnock understood it but couldn't achieve it, Tony Blair did it and now Starmer will do it. The left can moan all they like, but they are simply unelectable


Yes Tubby Starmer
prefers to meet Blair
in private.

He does not want press there.

[arista]

He only spoke for 20 minutes

I paused my SkyHD 10AM
at the start , Turned the 50" LG 4K off
Just got back from shopping
I have 50mins to watch

[arista]

No Radio had it Live


BBC now on USA and World Broadcasting
not doing Starmer

[joeysteele]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/13/00/70932541-12078999-image-m-9_1683935653937.jpg


[ANDREW NEIL: Britain could well be heading
for seismic electoral reform that'll keep
the left in power FOR EVER... And Starmer
may sign up to it without voters
even getting a say]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12078999/Britain-heading-seismic-electoral-reform-thatll-left-power.html?ico=related-replace-2


[You might think the British Left
would be a bit downhearted after
the local elections,
which were terrible for the Tories
but suggested Labour
would still struggle to win an
overall majority come
the General Election.
But not a bit of it.

They see the prospect of a hung Parliament
as prelude to a much bigger prize
than merely another
Labour government: the chance to install
and enshrine Left-of-centre government
for the foreseeable future — consigning
the Tories to the political wilderness for
at least a generation, perhaps for ever.]


What nonsense from the Mail as usual.

IF, Labour had not an overall majority, so then formed a coalition with the LibDems who had PR as one of their policies.
The public had then been consulted.
It is Labour who should also have as a policy PR in their manifesto.
It was overwhelmingly passed at the last Labour conference.
Starmer should include it himself.

However if part of the agreement for a Labour/LibDem pairing then so be it.
The polls all indicate no love for the current first past the post discredited system.

Really the LibDems should have insisted in 2010 for PR.
No daft referendums on only AV.
They didn't get it then because they dropped their holy grail of PR policy.

This time with Labour, Labour is now a Party whose members, supporters and even the Unions want PR now.
It's something I and other members of Labour are and have been battling for now for some time.
The Party now backs it.

The leadership and Cabinet need to get on board now too.

All PR will ensure is NO Party will likely ever again get absolute power for not getting over 50% of the votes cast .
The one and ONLY party in the UK which is against PR is the Con one.
Because they believe in having absolute power only for them.
No concensus in politics.
Having absolute power to abuse it for their own ends not for the overall 4 Nations UK"s good.

I'd welcome bigtime working with the LibDems to achieve PR.
Absolutely all the way now.

[arista]

Its Andrew Neil's view

[joeysteele]

Its Andrew Neil's view

I know but look what trash of a paper jumps in to publish his nonsense.

[bots]

the tories will be out of power for at least a decade, thats plenty time to methodically change the voting system if thats what the people want

[arista]

I know but look what trash of a paper jumps in to publish his nonsense.


Yes
its that remix photo
that dragged me in

[Zizu]

the tories will be out of power for at least a decade, thats plenty time to methodically change the voting system if thats what the people want


Nothing of importance EVER changes ..

The rich ( inc politicians) get richer and the lowly get poorer ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

Clause 4 on Steroids


He (tubby Starmer)
Stated today live at 10:11AM

[arista]

He also Stated
his Labour in 4 nations

But in Scotland right now
there is Only one Labour MP.


He also stated he will go further than
New Labour did/

[arista]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Harry_Callahan.JPG

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7A00/production/_129723213_telegraph-nc.png.webp

[joeysteele]

I've no issue at all if people are living permanently in the UK, paying taxes and therefore contributing to the UK economy.
Having a say in how those taxes are spent and by whom in power.
Totally fine by me.
No issue at all.

[arista]

I've no issue at all if people are living permanently in the UK, paying taxes and therefore contributing to the UK economy.
Having a say in how those taxes are spent and by whom in power.
Totally fine by me.
No issue at all.


Sure all Legal
is fine.

[arista]

Shadow Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds

Has gone on Every TV & Radio Station
saying in the Papers it is Not a Labour Manifesto
it is Policy ideas.

[joeysteele]

Shadow Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds

Has gone on Every TV & Radio Station
saying in the Papers it is Not a Labour Manifesto
it is Policy ideas.

Well of course it's only an idea at this stage.
NO party not even the present governing one have any manifestos yet.

One would think the not unusually however misleading Telegraph would know this isn't a manifesto inclusion.

[bots]

Manifestos are a thing of the past, we have moved on from there. The labour party have been obsessed with manifestos for way too long. All people want or need is a top 5-10 priority list. No more than that. Not legions of committees agreeing 1000's of pages of manifesto like labour have done in the past

That's the basis on which the next election will be fought

[arista]

Well of course it's only an idea at this stage.
NO party not even the present governing one have any manifestos yet.

One would think the not unusually however misleading Telegraph would know this isn't a manifesto inclusion.

They do not care
Solid readers like that paper

[arista]

I do not like


Starmer has 5 Points
Sunak has 5 Points

Starmer should make it Lucky 7 points

[arista]

Manifestos are a thing of the past, we have moved on from there. The labour party have been obsessed with manifestos for way too long. All people want or need is a top 5-10 priority list. No more than that. Not legions of committees agreeing 1000's of pages of manifesto like labour have done in the past

That's the basis on which the next election will be fought



Yes just Look at 2015
Ed Milliband & his potty
Better Pan
on Stone.

That stone is now Hidden away

[The six pledges written on the stone were:

1. A strong economic foundation
2.Higher living standards for working families
3.An NHS with the time to care
4.Controls on immigration
5.A country where the next generation can do better than the last
6.Homes to buy and action on rents]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/Ed_Miliband_next_to_EdStone.jpeg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EdStone


Number 4
Is like Sunak

"Stopping the Small Boats"

[joeysteele]

Yes just Look at 2015
Ed Milliband & his potty
Better Pan
on Stone.

That stone is now Hidden away

[The six pledges written on the stone were:

1. A strong economic foundation
2.Higher living standards for working families
3.An NHS with the time to care
4.Controls on immigration
5.A country where the next generation can do better than the last
6.Homes to buy and action on rents]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/Ed_Miliband_next_to_EdStone.jpeg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EdStone


This turned out to be a massive embarrassment.
Miliband got all the run up to the election ALL wrong.

[arista]

This turned out to be a massive embarrassment.
Miliband got all the run up to the election ALL wrong.


Yes, that Stone hidden away
so no one can see it

[arista]

BBC News Text:

[The potential change to voting rules would
be the biggest increase of the franchise
in a century. Labour MPs have defended the plans,
reports the paper,
but it notes that senior opposition figures
have called on Sir Keir to scrap the plan.
They have accused the Labour leader
of wanting to "drag Britain back into the EU by stealth"]


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/C85C/production/_129729215_mail-nc.png.webp

[bots]

it should only be actual UK citizens that are allowed to vote. If not, that opens the door for Russians and all sorts to directly affect our elections

[joeysteele]

I thought it wouldn't be long before the vile Mail pounced.
It's really getting worried that their precious Cons are going to lose.

They turn a blind eye to all the abuses of power by this shocking governnent.
Yet attack any even idea being only discussed by others.
If people are in this Country permanently and paying taxes which contribute fully to our economy.
Then I feel myself they should have a say in who governs.

As others should who are considered permanent resident taxpayers in other Countries.
That however is a matter for those Countries.
Just as our affairs are a matter for us.

The Mail this election won't be able to disgracefully stain Starmer's parents.
Like they set out to do with the Miliband's deceased Father up to 2015.

They will though overexaggerate and twist to lie completely in anything it can to try to help this massively discredited government stay in power..
With the trash that is the Mail being this governnents most vile of a mouthpiece.

[Gusto Brunt]

It always makes me laugh when dopey Starmer - who doesn't know what a woman is - is referred to as a Sir. :joker:

The guy got that knighthood because he was a grovellor to the establishment. Not for anything worthy he's done.:fist:

He's plain Starmer to me. :p

[joeysteele]

It always makes me laugh when dopey Starmer - who doesn't know what a woman is - is referred to as a Sir. :joker:

The guy got that knighthood because he was a grovellor to the establishment. Not for anything worthy he's done.:fist:

He's plain Starmer to me. :p

I don't agree with the honours system.
I think a Knighthood should only be given if they must be, for exceptionally heroic actions.
So agree Starmer's doesn't impress me either.

However what you've said about Starmer's could be said about near all the Knighthood recipients over the last decades.
For me with a tiny few exceptions, as to the lot of them.

[bots]

in the usa, the republicans are creating AI attack ads that are entirely fake. That will inevitably come here at the next election. That's what we have to look forward to

[arista]

[I thought it wouldn't be long before the vile Mail pounced.
It's really getting worried that their precious Cons are going to lose.]

Sure Joey
a easy target

[arista]

1658025584579031041

[Gusto Brunt]

I don't agree with the honours system.
I think a Knighthood should only be given if they must be, for exceptionally heroic actions.
So agree Starmer's doesn't impress me either.

However what you've said about Starmer's could be said about near all the Knighthood recipients over the last decades.
For me with a tiny few exceptions, as to the lot of them.


Yes, but I find Starmer to be particularly undeserving of any honour. People like David Attenborough and Paul McCartney are more worthy of being called Sirs, even though, like you, I agree it's silly. If that makes sense. :D

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b9ad49f0-5d0c-4fb0-9c42-c84198d823cd.png

[joeysteele]

If Gove is annoyed at this then it's a good idea more likely.
Gove has never delivered anything of note over ALL his career.

[bots]

there shouldn't be an issue with permanent residents/uk citizens and we have been through the voting age thing before

[Liam-]

Considering what Moggy admitted to yesterday, they should really worry about their own house

[arista]

SkyNews Text:
[The Labour leader has promised to allow more houses
to be built on the green belt.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c0d137a8-f5fd-4815-b7b5-c0a0f984d1e4.png

[arista]

1658777048142290945

[Oliver_W]

Fk off and leave the Green Belt alone.

[arista]

Fk off and leave the Green Belt alone.


No,
he is setting out his Master Plan.
For Next Year.

[bots]

there is no point getting excited about it because it won't happen

[Oliver_W]

No,
he is setting out his Master Plan.
For Next Year.

Don't care.

[arista]

Starmer
was just Live On BBCnewsHD

Only Brief Live Clip.


Heathrow
Nat West Group
Drax

British Chambers of Commerce

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8e5edce7-bbf9-4303-956d-d2d93fee5677.png

[arista]

Starmer gives Another Big Speech
tomorrow on the Under resourcing of the NHS.


We were told
on BBC1HD 9AM Sunday live

[joeysteele]

Another big speech? ( groan).

Fatigue is setting in with his speeches.
Why not have a day of announcements and get all done at once.

They are still only plans but not firm policy he's announcing anyhow.
That's not going to happen until nearer the election and then in his manifesto and campaign.

[arista]

Another big speech? ( groan).

Fatigue is setting in with his speeches.
Why not have a day of announcements and get all done at once.

They are still only plans but not firm policy he's announcing anyhow.
That's not going to happen until nearer the election and then in his manifesto and campaign.


He will Stretch it out tomorrow
his mum suffered in his NHS etc.

[joeysteele]

He will Stretch it out tomorrow
his mum suffered in his NHS etc.

Stretch it out, is absolutely right as to what he'll do.
Boring many in the process.

[bots]

it's keeping him in the news, and thats what it's all about

[arista]

it's keeping him in the news, and thats what it's all about


Of Course
but he keeps going over old ground

The New Labour Social Care Plan
is arriving next month
we found out from Wes Streeting MP
today.

So he should wait
until June for this speech.

[arista]

Also ,Starmer going on
Morning TV today.

His Wife works in the NHS

[arista]

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1660535920439820289

[arista]

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1660537259240697856

[arista]

Starmer Live


NHS is on the line


Braintree, Essex


SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD
Radio 5

Not on LBC

[arista]

https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1660574776421646337



[Last night Rachel Reeves jetted to the US
to unveil Labour’s plans for “economic dignity“,
tweeting an obligatory photo of her passport
and boarding pass to New York.
Co-conspirators looking to find the tweet themselves
this morning will struggle.
She deleted the picture after realising her
ticket showed she was sat in the
front of the plane… in business class.]


https://order-order.com/2023/05/22/rachel-reeves-flies-business-class-despite-boasting-of-economic-dignity/


https://order-order.com/2023/05/22/rachel-reeves-flies-business-class-despite-boasting-of-economic-dignity/

[arista]

Keir Starmer in Scotland
Today

Labour claims SNP trying to delay Rutherglen by-election

https://www.heraldscotland.com/resources/images/16823938.jpg?type=mds-article-962

Black Shirt - Time for War.

Reported to me
on GBnewsHD

Not on sad BBC.



[The accusation came as Sir Keir Starmer
was campaigning in the South Lanarkshire
constituency on Friday morning with Anas Sarwar
and candidate Michael Shanks.

However, Margaret Ferrier’s position
as the incumbent MP is safe for at least
ten more days, after a vote to suspend
her from the Commons was unexpectedly
pulled by the UK Government.

Reports suggest it could not go ahead
as there were not enough MPs in Parliament.]


https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/23549754.labour-claims-snp-trying-delay-rutherglen-by-election/

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Sir Keir Starmer will announce
plans to block all new North Sea
oil and gas developments and borrow only
for green investment as part of a
transformation of Britain into a
"clean energy superpower",
The Sunday Times reports.
The Labour leader is expected to set out
his net zero energy policy when he begins
his latest "national mission"
in Scotland next month, the paper says.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/E996/production/_129889795_sundaytimes-nc.png.webp

[arista]

Sky News Text :
[Labour is under pressure to return a £1.5million donation
from a key funder of the
environmental group Just Stop Oil.



https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-a724cb17-9acc-49af-a73a-b12b358ae547.png

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxdAllhWcAgh63Y?format=jpg&name=small

[Liam-]

King of own goals

[arista]

[UK's future is outside the EU,
but we need to act now to make
Brexit work - KEIR STARMER
Express readers deserve their politicians
to be clear about where they stand.
So let me spell it out simply.
Britain's future is outside the EU.
Not in the single market,
not in the customs union,
not with a return to freedom of movement,
writes Sir Keir Starmer.]

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1775780/sir-keir-starmer-labour-rejoin-eu-brexit

[arista]

BBC News Text :
[The Labour party, and what it says is
a "class war on middle Britain".
The paper reports "far-reaching proposals [are] being
circulated to party members and trade unions",
which would aim to divert
"resources from rich areas to poorer postcodes".
Labour said the proposals are in
draft documents and
"not a final statement of party policy".]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/4D2E/production/_129985791_mail_sunday-nc.png.webp

[arista]

[Point Of Fact:
Labour is alowing Oil
to go intil 2050]


SkyNews Text: [Trade unions have hit out at
Labour following a proposed ban on
new drilling licences, reports The Times.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-6b6412cf-d6b1-48e1-8b89-c3ac4eb46e97.jpeg

[arista]

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1666706551548026880

[arista]

Labour has accepted £1.5million from
Just Stop Oil funder Dale Vince
over several years


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/08/10/71885261-12172849-Labour_has_accepted_1_5million_from_Just_Stop_Oil_ funder_Dale_Vi-a-3_1686216842505.jpg

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyGLEqBWcAAKFkI?format=jpg&name=900x900

[CCHQ have sold over 500 pairs of their
new “Keir Starmer Flip Flops” since launch.
The fashionable footwear hit the shelves
on 26th May for £16.99,
meaning the Tories have grossed roughly £8,500 from
the stylish sandals in just under two weeks.
The perfect purchase for the upcoming heatwave…]

https://order-order.com/2023/06/08/tories-sell-500-pairs-of-keir-starmer-flip-flops-in-under-two-weeks/

[bots]

all the political parties are the same. They all chase whatever money they can get

[arista]

A 2nd Paper
Backing Starmers British Steel Plan.

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1667075853564493824

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyP9QW1WwAMkGOu?format=jpg&name=900x900

Rachel Reeves the dog doing a U turn

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-fdc26d91-e87d-4e05-bfdc-56299dec259f.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-03848aa5-16c4-4283-8d66-b85534d77805.png

[Oliver_W]

While I don't think rights to protest should be cracked down on, and he's Not A Tory(tm), being weak on the small boats and not strong enough on environmental issues makes his party hard to vote for.

[DemolitionRed]

I'd put bets on Keir Starmer being our next PM. He, along with Blair are paid up members of the WEF... God help us.

[arista]

Labour will now Scrap
Free Universal Child Care.

They will try means testing it.

In today's Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/13/labour-rules-out-universal-childcare-for-young-children-in-fiscal-credibility-drive

Was just featured on SkyNewsHD Early Hour

[Oliver_W]

Labour will now Scrap
Free Universal Child Care.

They will try means testing it.

In today's Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/13/labour-rules-out-universal-childcare-for-young-children-in-fiscal-credibility-drive

Was just featured on SkyNewsHD Early Hour

That spoiled ballot is honing ever closer into view...

[Liam-]

It’s like Keir permanently wants Labour to stay in opposition with the decisions he’s making, forcing the lords to abstain from voting to save our democratic rights, flip flopping on every policy he’s ever pledged, now rolling back something the tories have promised that people actually like for a change, he’s a moron

[bots]

i keep looking for some amazing insight and clever thinking from Starmer that i am missing, but, no, he seems to be hell bent on making labour unelectable

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FywYo0QWcAEGZlJ?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Keir Starmer has had a good start to the month,
after enjoying all expenses-paid tickets
to a Coldplay concert, at the cost of £700,
he then enjoyed a day at the races.
Of course, it’s nothing short of the
best prawn cocktails for the Labour leader,
who enjoyed hospitality in a
private box worth £3,716.
Not bad for the son of a tool-maker,
from a pebbledash semi…]


https://order-order.com/2023/06/16/register-of-interests-update-keir-enjoys-3700-private-box-hospitality-at-epsom-downs/

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-508fcd2f-7a8c-4324-b185-d5f28f21de1e.jpeg

[arista]

Young Starmer

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fy4kMmWWwAAOxZM?format=jpg&name=900x900

His tweet

[Today, I’m remembering my dad and all he did for our family.]

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1670312314992566272

[arista]

Sky News Text :
[In a bid to hit net zero, Keir Starmer
has pledged to push for onshore
wind farms should Labour win the next election,
leads The Telegraph. ]

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[Kate!]

I can't stand Keir Starmer. I swear if he costslsbour the election I'll fume.

[arista]

I can't stand Keir Starmer. I swear if he costslabour the election I'll fume.


Starmer is predicted to being next PM.
Next Year Summer or Autumn


He needs to be more humble

[arista]

Starmer in Edinburgh


Live on BBC1AM


He is taking the Train
back to London,
for the Vote
he stated he hopes the PM will be there.

Sunak spoke to GMBHD itv last night
saying he will not vote on it

[arista]

At 7:30AM he went on GMBHD itv


And around 8:30AM he is going on SkyNewsHD


Any New Oil Contracts before he gets in Power
will be honoured.

His new Public Owned GB Energy
will make sure all that take new Wind Turbines
will get that energy for their community.

He told GMBHD itv.

[bots]

Did anyone ask Starmer what his plan was to find alternative employment for the 200,000 people that will be put out of work when labour stop new oil contracts

[arista]

He is keeping Oil going for longer

[arista]

Starmer Now Live (Edinburgh)

On the News.

[arista]

[GB ENERGY LIMITED


Registered office address
Eagle Accountancy (uk) Ltd,
2 Coracle Offices, St Catherine Street,
Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire,
Wales, SA31 1RD

Company status
Active

Company type
Private limited Company

Incorporated on
25 March 2013

Nature of business (SIC)

41100 - Development of building projects]

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08459960


This is the New Starmer Plan.
he spoke of today on every news.
Will his company be able to take all the New Customers?

[arista]

[Keir Starmer has announced that a Labour government
will create Great British Energy – a new, publicly-owned
clean generation company that will harness
the power of Britain’s sun, wind,
and waves – to cut energy bills and deliver
energy independence for our country.

The role of GB Energy will be to provide
additional capacity, alongside the rapidly
expanding private sector, to establish the UK
as a clean energy superpower and guarantee
long term energy security.

A publicly-owned company is the best way to
ensure that the British people can derive the
benefits from the power that we create
on our own shores – delivering cheaper bills,
good local jobs, and bringing money back
into the public purse. This will enable strategic
partnership between the private sector and
government to deliver its plan for clean power.]

[arista]

Ed Miliband was on NewsnightHD BBC2

He says they will pay Cash if you accept
a Windfarm.

[arista]

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1671487822392627202

[bots]

isn't that what liz truss was offering? :laugh:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhxiaR7UcAA7wpa?format=jpg&name=small

[DemolitionRed]

Labour is no longer run by Labour and the Conservatives are no longer run by Conservatives

Both sides clearly fixed with installed quisling puppets

[arista]

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[bots]

Supporters of Sir Keir Starmer are "drunk with power" and conducting a purge of the Labour left, former shadow chancellor John McDonnell has said.

In a BBC Newsnight interview, the veteran left-winger warned that a "right-wing faction" was weakening the party.

He was speaking after figures on the left complained that they are being blocked from positions in the party.

He has raised his concerns with the Labour leader in writing, warning: "If you stumble, these are the people that will come for you."

The former shadow chancellor said: "What [Keir Starmer's] allowed to happen is a right-wing faction [has] become drunk with power and use devices within the party almost on a search and destroy of the left.

"They seem to be more interested in destroying the presence of the left in the party than getting a Labour government."

His intervention comes after aspiring MPs said they are being excluded from an approved list of parliamentary candidates drawn up by the party's National Executive Committee, Labour's governing body.

Sitting MPs facing selection battles in new seats created by the Boundary Review also say they are losing out to Starmer loyalists. Others on the left have been successful.

And Neal Lawson, director of campaign group Compass and a stalwart of the soft left, recently said he is facing an official investigation over some old tweets calling for cross-party co-operation.

The party says it is looking into his support for other political parties, which is a breach of Labour rules.

In a statement, a spokesperson told the BBC said it had "high standards" for prospective election candidates, and this was "absolutely right".

"This is a changed Labour Party back in the service of working people so we can build a better Britain," they added.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66105250

[arista]

[The former shadow chancellor said:
"What [Keir Starmer's] allowed to happen
is a right-wing faction [has] become drunk
with power and use devices within the party almost
on a search and destroy of the left.]


Yes like the old days,


New Labour Blair

Getting rid of Old Labour.

[arista]

Sky News Text :
[Speaking "fluently and clearly" will be put "at the
heart of the national curriculum
and given the same status as literacy
and numeracy under a Labour government",
according to The Times.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-9249511d-2968-4f87-80e3-86d6d9c12436.png

[arista]

In around 20 mins
Starmer is going Live on a Education Speech


His Deputy Angela
is Live now on LBC.

[bots]

if you don't speak with a london accent you will be shot

[Crimson Dynamo]

If it means primary schools in year one making all children pronounce three properly that would be good

[joeysteele]

This is one policy I am fully on board with from Starmer and his team.
I'm always surprised it wasn't part of the education process long before anyhow.

[bots]

If it means primary schools in year one making all children pronounce three properly that would be good

ho7796-au8U

[arista]

Starmer Now Live

SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD

[arista]

He is in a Gillingham College

Loads of Selected Students - Behind him./


They Clapp when told to.

[Oliver_W]

If it means primary schools in year one making all children pronounce three properly that would be good

And the word "ask".

Not AKS!!

It's like nails on a chalkboard, why do so many people find it hard to pronounce?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Starmer just got interrupted on his platform by Green herberts who said he had U-Turned

he was flustered

[arista]

A Protester halted Starmer.

[arista]

Deputy Angela

Now Live on ITV1HD Loose Women


When she went to school
she had never read a book


Asking her how can they afford the
School Breakfast Club?

[arista]

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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07/06/10/72914253-12270419-image-a-13_1688637550292.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07/06/10/72913745-12270419-Accusing_Sir_Keir_of_reversing_commitments_on_envi ronmental_poli-m-10_1688637020923.jpg

Getting Removed


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12270419/Starmers-big-education-speech-hit-green-protesters.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

the poor stooge kids looked akward

[arista]

You could see the Girl with the Glasses was looking at
someone else at the start

Pathetic no teachers got up
and removed them?

[arista]

Starmer just got interrupted on his platform by Green herberts who said he had U-Turned

he was flustered



Yes, he was not expecting them,

[arista]

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1676991400670273537

[joeysteele]

He really doesn't help himself often does he?.

[Crimson Dynamo]

genuinely emabarrasing

[hijaxers]

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1676991400670273537

What did a runner :joker: he is a clown.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0bIvg5XoAAAwA-?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Sir Keir Starmer has told his party they cannot
"spend their way back to power".
The paper says the Labour leader
"won't pledge vast sums"
to get back into government.]

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[arista]

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1680286105357230080

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1680286105357230080

ToryBoy fighting for his party as usual.

[arista]

ToryBoy fighting for his party as usual.


Owen Jones said Early Morning
on GMBHD itv
he was given his Labour Card at the age of 15,
all his family are Labour.


He is not happy with this New Labour Type,
Starmer

[Zizu]

https://twitter.com/gndrising/status/1682427884059631618?s=46&t=4Bt0aqTthADTQG3kMIaXcg


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[Oliver_W]

https://twitter.com/gndrising/status/1682427884059631618?s=46&t=4Bt0aqTthADTQG3kMIaXcg


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Meh.

Why would she want to engage with someone who's shouting at her and waving a phone in her face? Looks like she'd been at some kind of engagement, there's a time and place.

[DemolitionRed]

Environmentalism has been hijacked by the technocrats and we are being moved towards a machine green dystopia.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1682988214842212352?s=20

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2023/07/22/TELEMMGLPICT000343556182_16900505754820_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT 8.jpeg?imwidth=1280&imdensity=2

[arista]

Today Live at 10AM
the Labour Leader is Live on Simulcast Radio5/BBCnewsHD

Nicky Hancock stated
Many want him to talk about No Bank for Nigel Farage
Will Starmer allow that.?

[arista]

Starmer Now Live


He stated No one should be refused
a bank account on Political Views


Now taking questions
from the Public.

[arista]

A caller has had his Mortgage raised
and is effecting his health.


Starmer also adding the folks he has met.

[arista]

Starmer now left the London BBC Studio

[joeysteele]

He really is irritating.
Gets me annoyed.

I accept he cannot detail costs and funding as to policies.
I accept he needs to look at the issues arising.
So cannot say what he will definitely do as to issues.

However he must have with the bits of information he has across the board on issues.
Just for goodness sake say what he firmly supports or intends to seriously look at if he wins power.
Or even just give his own feeling and view on an issue which he MUST have.

Starmer is really very fortunate to a degree that the current political temperature is more against the Cons.
He fails to inspire for me and things like he'll look at this or that with no expression of where his own thinking is.
Just give some answers and more importantly some hope to the people telling him of their current difficulties.

I don't want him to be like Blair, the grinning Cheshire cat who swept the Country with a kind of arrogance of flooding thoughts and ideas out like confetti.
One of Starmer's plus points is he's not like Blair in either style or delivery.
However a more detailed view of what he sees as to the road if he wins power, where does he WANT to be able to say the UK may be from whatever policies he will try to implement.

Just answer more directly, you don't have to give loads of details but stop being cautious or worried of saying the wrong thing.
Saying nothing or little can be as wrong as saying too much.

Just for goodness sake as to Keir Starmer, he needs to say what he means and mean what he says.
He'd earn certainly and likely gain more respect if he did

[bots]

he needs to outline his principles and stick to them and not change with the wind. Principles don't need funding, and it would make clear what the guy actually stands for. At the moment, does anyone really have a clue what he would do if labour got in power? :laugh:

[arista]

Yes Joey,
I understand your valid points.


I give credit to BBC Nicky Hancock
why did push Starmer to answer the direct question.

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Former Prime Minister Sir Tony Blair
has cautioned against asking the
public to do a "huge amount" to tackle
climate change,
because Britain's net zero efforts alone can't
solve global warming, according to the Telegraph.
However, the former Labour leader has
stressed that climate change is
the "single biggest global challenge"
and that "Britain should play its part".]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Daily Mail splashes on a story about
Just Stop Oil activists who the paper claim
are boasting their tactics have shaped
Labour Party policy. ]

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[The Slim Reaper]

he needs to outline his principles and stick to them and not change with the wind. Principles don't need funding, and it would make clear what the guy actually stands for. At the moment, does anyone really have a clue what he would do if labour got in power? :laugh:

They sort of have, unfortunately. Rachel reeves has set her ideas based on a growth strategy that will never happen without investment, so she's stuck in that loop, which means that a continuation of tory austerity, but with slightly better manners, and less **** ups.

Anyone seen Joey recently? I wonder how he is now feeling about this right wing labour party.

[arista]

They sort of have, unfortunately. Rachel reeves has set her ideas based on a growth strategy that will never happen without investment, so she's stuck in that loop, which means that a continuation of tory austerity, but with slightly better manners, and less **** ups.

Anyone seen Joey recently? I wonder how he is now feeling about this right wing labour party.


Yes, I think Joey agrees
with you Slim.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes, I think Joey agrees
with you Slim.

I think he's getting there, but it's been a long process to come to terms with what his labour party has become and now stands for. Hope he's doing well, and I hope he doesn't waste his time canvassing for this lot when the time comes.

[user104658]

It's not new. I was a hair away from ending up on "New Deal" with a baby on the way (the amazing plan to have people working full-time jobs at Poundland for £65 a week Jobseekers) and will never forget that. Thankfully I found a job just before that actually happened.

That was 2008. Labour government. The Tories have been such monumental ****ers that people have seemingly forgotten that Labour had already gone waaay off-piste... there's a good reason that the Tories were able to sway the working class to vote for them, which was previously unthinkable.

[The Slim Reaper]

I was talking about where Starmer has come from his election to now, with all the backtracking and u-turns. Obviously only Corbyn and possibly Smith would be described as progressive, and it was in relation to Joeys journey over the 7 stages of grief, and the fact he struggled to accept the reality of who Starmer is.

[user104658]

I was talking about where Starmer has come from his election to now, with all the backtracking and u-turns. Obviously only Corbyn and possibly Smith would be described as progressive, and it was in relation to Joeys journey over the 7 stages of grief, and the fact he struggled to accept the reality of who Starmer is.

Ultimately it's a catch 22 though isn't it... the reality is that the GBP will never elect a "real" Labour party. The world could be literally on fire and the country would continue to lean right-of-centre... Blair & co knew that, hence New Labour. Starmer knows it.

FWIW I still maintain that I will eat my hat if the Tories don't win the next election anyway, so it's all pretty moot. They're not going anywhere. They just haven't tipped their hand to show whatever smear-tactic-or-other they'll unleash for electioneering.

[The Slim Reaper]

Ultimately it's a catch 22 though isn't it... the reality is that the GBP will never elect a "real" Labour party. The world could be literally on fire and the country would continue to lean right-of-centre... Blair & co knew that, hence New Labour.

FWIW I still maintain that I will eat my hat if the Tories don't win the next election anyway, so it's all pretty moot. They're not going anywhere. They just haven't tipped their hand to show whatever smear-tactic-or-other they'll unleash for electioneering.

It's a weird one, because if you poll individual (progressive/socialist) policies, then they're always majorly popular, even with tory voters, but when they are put into the labour party, then people lose their minds.

I guess having the whole media and establishment pushing tories is bound to have an effect, to the point where they're voting against their own interests.

I think Starmer was uniquely placed for this election cycle to offer progressive policies without any need to worry about the tories, because they've screwed it up so much. People are desperate not to vote tory, and Keir constantly copying or agreeing with them, is giving voters a reason to stick where they are.

Tories won't be in government after the next election (I don't share your pessimism), but I'm hoping for a labour coalition as a best case scenario, preferably with the greens.

If labour get into government and do tory things, then the gbp will replace them with actual tories at the first opportunity. The way you change the gbp's opinion on the labour party, is to actually do things to make the lives of the citizenry better when they get the chance, and there is very little chance of that happening with this lot.

[bots]

the next election will be won by the party that champions the topic of the moment. The GBP have lost the ability to think logically

[Crimson Dynamo]

A labour coalition eithe the greens?

That's what the Tories should threaten the UK with to win the next election

[The Slim Reaper]

A labour coalition eithe the greens?

That's what the Tories should threaten the UK with to win the next election

It's what I'm hoping for, because this labour party can't be trusted. I do think labour will eek out a comfortable majority, unfortunately.

I'll be voting green, at least.

Any idea who you might vote for as I don't think you're SNP any more. You going Tory?

[Liam-]

Tories obviously can’t run on their record, because it’s abysmal, so they’re gonna go full on, dedicated culture war in the run up to the election, trans people want to rape your kids, everyone will be forced to be non binary, woke establishments punishing the elites for being real, proper British people, it’s all they’ve got left in the hope of clinging on

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tories obviously can’t run on their record, because it’s abysmal, so they’re gonna go full on, dedicated culture war in the run up to the election, trans people want to rape your kids, everyone will be forced to be non binary, woke establishments punishing the elites for being real, proper British people, it’s all they’ve got left in the hope of clinging on

You forgot heat pumps

[joeysteele]

I think he's getting there, but it's been a long process to come to terms with what his labour party has become and now stands for. Hope he's doing well, and I hope he doesn't waste his time canvassing for this lot when the time comes.

Sorry to disappoint you Slim but I will be all out canvassing for a Labour government in the election.
I may have even put myself forward to possibly stand in the election had Starmer had the courage to include PR in the next election's manifesto.
However it's only through Labour that will come, so with other members we will be pushing hard over the next years to get PR included in the manifesto for the election nearer 2029.
That is one of my main personal political aims, because I do believe it could be the start for right and good political reform.
Plus it was passed massively at last year's conference.

I'm content with the plans for the NHS too.
I can go with most of what is being planned.

I also still believe Labour would be a more compassionate government.
There's not the tiniest hint of any sensitivity or compassion about the current Con party.

However, yes, I am going to be extremely disappointed, very much so, with the first Starmer led manifesto.
That disappointment though fades into insignificance at the thought of this shambolic, heartless government being allowed to continuing in power.
So I will be helping all ways I can to try to get this awful hard-line heartless Con lot out absolutely.
Despite my own personal dislike of and even anger at Starmer.
Who I do feel has become a big letdown.

[The Slim Reaper]

Sorry to disappoint you Slim but I will be all out canvassing for a Labour government in the election.
I may have even put myself forward to possibly stand in the election had Starmer had the courage to include PR in the next election's manifesto.
However it's only through Labour that will come, so with other members we will be pushing hard over the next years to get PR included in the manifesto for the election nearer 2029.
That is one of my main personal political aims, because I do believe it could be the start for right and good political reform.
Plus it was passed massively at last year's conference.

I'm content with the plans for the NHS too.
I can go with most of what is being planned.

I also still believe Labour would be a more compassionate government.
There's not the tiniest hint of any sensitivity or compassion about the current Con party.

However, yes, I am going to be extremely disappointed, very much so, with the first Starmer led manifesto.
That disappointment though fades into insignificance at the thought of this shambolic, heartless government being allowed to continuing in power.
So I will be helping all ways I can to try to get this awful hard-line heartless Con lot out absolutely.
Despite my own personal dislike of and even anger at Starmer.
Who I do feel has become a big letdown.

You'll never disappoint me, Joey.

We only get once chance every 20/30 years in this country to change it for the benefit of the many not the few (nod to jezza), so a bad labour gov doing nothing is actually worse long term, than another tory term imo. Because there is absolutely no reason to vote for a continuation of tory policies, but with a better smile.

The country will continue to leer dangerously rightward, unless they have a reason to participate in democracy. That was the post WW2 bargain that bankrupt govs across Europe committed to. Unless we do that now, then we're heading in the same direction as they were exactly 100 years ago.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's what I'm hoping for, because this labour party can't be trusted. I do think labour will eek out a comfortable majority, unfortunately.

I'll be voting green, at least.

Any idea who you might vote for as I don't think you're SNP any more. You going Tory?

Its very un-British to say who you will vote for

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[The Slim Reaper]

Half scouse, not British :laugh:

Look at that dudes eyes (not Boris). He 100% buries prostitutes under his patio.

[Crimson Dynamo]

true

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Hi Joey, I know you said exactly what you thought of this tory policy, so how do you feel about it now it's a labour policy?

https://i.imgflip.com/7ux12k.jpg


1688144282115354626

[arista]

Yes Slim
already reported weeks ago

Labour Will Use Giant Barges
and Military Camps
as the numbers are big
still to be processed.


Meanwhile, Corrupt Lawyers
are taking cash from them
giving them Corrupt ways of passing
the Home Office Questions

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder where that roaster Richard Would put them?


https://twitter.com/SimonJonesNews/status/1688059128122388480?s=20

[Oliver_W]

Hi Joey, I know you said exactly what you thought of this tory policy, so how do you feel about it now it's a labour policy?

https://i.imgflip.com/7ux12k.jpg


1688144282115354626
The migrants need to be kept somewhere; why is putting them up in barges any worse or more "inept" than taking up hotel spaces?

[arista]

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[arista]

Tuesday Front Page

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[Zizu]

Tuesday Front Page

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Is the Eco Zombie Diane Abbott ?

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[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Joey...

1692266060869710274

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Labour's "watered down" plans to
strengthen workers' rights in a bid
to impress corporate leaders
and discredit Conservative
claims the party
is "anti-business" ahead of the
next general election.
It says a pledge to boost the protection
of gig economy
workers was "diluted",
according to a text seen by the paper.]

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[The Slim Reaper]

His kids are 12 and 15.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F39-u4lXgAANlyp?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1694037703493386310

[arista]

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[arista]

Also posted on Nadine thread

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[Oliver_W]

His kids are 12 and 15.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F39-u4lXgAANlyp?format=jpg&name=small

Have you ever tried to get sulky teens to eat vegetables?

:joker:

[Liam-]

There is no longer a Labour Party, there are two Tory parties that just wear different colours, these people are making it increasingly harder to hold my nose and vote for them

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4njpIEWgAI6vMg?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1696214595986182515


Yes Owen
They want Power

[arista]

Labour's Education Lady
will enforce Schools
to only have
3 School
Uniform Branded items.

She Stated on all TV and Radio today

[Zizu]

Labour's Education Lady
will enforce Schools
to only have
3 School
Uniform Branded items.

She Stated on all TV and Radio today


Politicians talk a load of bollox


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[arista]

Politicians talk a load of bollox




She is saving money
for your poor pupils

That's her New Labour Plan

[Zizu]

She is saving money
for your poor pupils

That's her New Labour Plan


They all promise the Earth and then actually do nothing in the end .


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[Zizu]

It annoys me that politicians simply make policies that will appeal to the people and get votes RATHER than policies that will act Improve things for our county !?!



Why on Earth have we tolerated this flaw in the political system for so long ???


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[arista]

BBC News Text :
[In its lead, the paper quotes former
Labour PM Tony Blair, who says Labour will
inherit "a country that's in a mess"
if the opposition party wins
the next general election.]


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[arista]

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1702054824307564813

[Labour will restore the security of Britain's borders.
Good to be in The Hague to set out how.]

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Starmer meeting Macron.

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer's plans
to tackle illegal migration if his party
were to win the general election next year.
The paper reports that the opposition
party is considering taking a share
of asylum seekers reaching Europe
as part of a deal in which the EU would
"take back" asylum seekers who entered the
UK illegally after crossing the Channel.


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[arista]

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[arista]

Starmer in the EU
went Live on GMBHD itv


Speaking of his new plans

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5-Ko5sWMAA6M1x?format=jpg&name=900x900

The Smugglers will be called Terrorist under Starmer.

[This morning Labour are talking tough
on “smashing Channel migrant gangs”
to stop the boats, vowing to treat traffickers
like terrorists by freezing assets and restricting
their movements.
While Starmer appears in both The Sun
and The Times to sell his migrant deal to voters,
the Conservatives are already on
the counterattack: not only does the
deal junk the Rwanda plan,
it opens the door to thousands of EU migrants
in exchange for a new borders agreement
with Brussels.
Starmer is willing to accept a share
of asylum seekers in return for the
EU taking back migrants who arrive
via small boats.
Labour insist this is up for negotiation,
which is code for ‘yes’…

Stamer told The Times this morning:

“We effectively exited the returns agreement
we were in and have never replaced it.
The first job is to secure the borders and make
sure we are the ones determining who comes
to this country.”]


https://order-order.com/2023/09/14/starmer-to-open-door-for-thousands-of-eu-migrants-with-small-boats-deal/

[bots]

no Arista, the migrants will be welcomed, it's the traffickers he wants to call terrorists

[arista]

no Arista, the migrants will be welcomed, it's the traffickers he wants to call terrorists


Yes corrected
thanks

[arista]

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[arista]

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1702742900012888481

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-18056194-1cf6-4a4c-9113-7164e798386d.png

[arista]

Meanwhile,

Starmer is in Canada
acting like he is soon to be Prime Minister

[The Slim Reaper]

Anyone out there still willing to defend labour as being different to the tories?


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[bots]

rayner is just ignored by starmer :laugh:

[arista]

Sky News Text :
[The Labour party wants to reset UK foreign policy
if elected, including establishing new links to
the EU, The Observer reports.]

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[Mystic Mock]

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Both Parties want illegal immigration because they can pay them on the cheap.

Also there are certain jobs that need filling that your average citizen see themselves as "too good" to be doing, so the Government (Tories or Labour) take illegal immigrants from primarily third world countries who don't understand the rights that they have, to do these unwanted jobs for pennies.

Allegedly anyway.

[Mystic Mock]

Meanwhile,

Starmer is in Canada
acting like he is soon to be Prime Minister

Well that's because he will be our next PM.

Have you seen what he is up against?

[arista]

But Both Parties
will not allow "illegal migrants"
to work.

[Mystic Mock]

But Both Parties
will not allow "illegal migrants"
to work.

At face value anyway.

[The Slim Reaper]

JOEYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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[bots]

it's pretty obvious now that Starmer is just going to say anything to try and get the votes :laugh:

It worked for Boris in the brexit vote so the strategy isn't a stupid one. It's more a reflection on politics today.

It also wouldn't surprise me if he starts a chorus of "lock him up" against Sunak :laugh:

[arista]

it's pretty obvious now that Starmer is just going to say anything to try and get the votes :laugh:

It worked for Boris in the brexit vote so the strategy isn't a stupid one. It's more a reflection on politics today.

It also wouldn't surprise me if he starts a chorus of "lock him up" against Sunak :laugh:



Yes fair points,
Starmer
is making sure Brexit voters
know he's staying with them

[Liam-]

Every time he opens his mouth, he wipes out any ounce of respect they’ve managed to get since the last time he said something stupid, it’s practically a superpower at this point

[arista]

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1703114611803713862

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer plans to seek
a "major rewrite" of Britain's Brexit deal
if his party wins the next general election.
In an interview with the paper,
Sir Keir says the current deal the UK
has with the bloc is "too thin"]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66839501



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[arista]

BBC News Text
[The news that Unite, Labour's biggest union supporter,
will launch campaigns in "red wall" areas
to try and urge the party to launch "more radical"
policies in areas such as energy,
steel and green jobs.]




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[Mystic Mock]

JOEYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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The language is very extreme from Starmer imo.

Illegal Immigrants trying to build a better life for themselves and their families shouldn't automatically be treated the same as Terrorists.

I personally don't agree with Illegal Immigration unless under the most extreme cases, but the language here is typical modern day Political extremism.

[arista]

The language is very extreme from Starmer imo.

Illegal Immigrants trying to build a better life for themselves and their families shouldn't automatically be treated the same as Terrorists.

I personally don't agree with Illegal Immigration unless under the most extreme cases, but the language here is typical modern day Political extremism.



No, it's the Criminal Smugglers
are what Starmer will call Terrorists

[arista]

Starmer is in Paris
to meet President Macron,
one on one,
tomorrow.


Ch4HDnews reports

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6Z7020W4AAKsFh?format=jpg&name=900x900

Starmer & Macron

Today.

[arista]

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[arista]

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1704542856545763722

[Mystic Mock]

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1704542856545763722

I hope so, because we're not going to get it from the current generation of Tory MP's it seems.

[arista]

Starmer now Talking in Canada


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/15/keir-starmer-canada-labour-immigration-policy

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

The architect of austerity is loving labours work.

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[The Slim Reaper]

:hehe:

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[bots]

everyone knows that giving the tories another term in office would all but end our democracy, but the thought of Starmer in charge is not a pleasant one

[Swan]

Starmer is no leader, he's like a rabbit in the headlights on most things, and seems pretty clueless on the whole.

[The Slim Reaper]

The man has been gifted a once in a 100yr opportunity as a labour leader, because the next election is all about the tories. He could say he wants to shoot thine king if he gets power, and he'd still win. Instead of using that opportunity to make drastic changes away from the disaster of the last 13 years, he insists on toeing the line and keeping their policies, to appease his corporate and media paymasters.

[Crimson Dynamo]

everyone knows that giving the tories another term in office would all but end our democracy, but the thought of Starmer in charge is not a pleasant one

its terrifying

[Swan]

The man has been gifted a once in a 100yr opportunity as a labour leader, because the next election is all about the tories. He could say he wants to shoot thine king if he gets power, and he'd still win. Instead of using that opportunity to make drastic changes away from the disaster of the last 13 years, he insists on toeing the line and keeping their policies, to appease his corporate and media paymasters.

Do you think Wes would do better? I am going off him a bit, truth be told. But as much as the left and right hate centralist's, i dunno. Maybe he wouldn't be a disaster.

I am against his privatising certain parts of the NHS, which is failing miserably under the Tories. However, the more i read from the Wes, his "person of the people" shtick is dwindling fast.

Personally, i think some common sense and understanding is needed. There is none. And us idiots, left, right, central keep arguing to the point now where we couldn't possibly unite.

We need a revolution, but it's never gonna happen in our lifetimes

[arista]

After the General Election
if Starmer Wins
he is going back to 2030 original Sunak plan

[The Slim Reaper]

Do you think Wes would do better? I am going off him a bit, truth be told. But as much as the left and right hate centralist's, i dunno. Maybe he wouldn't be a disaster.

I am against his privatising certain parts of the NHS, which is failing miserably under the Tories. However, the more i read from the Wes, his "person of the people" shtick is dwindling fast.

Personally, i think some common sense and understanding is needed. There is none. And us idiots, left, right, central keep arguing to the point now where we couldn't possibly unite.

We need a revolution, but it's never gonna happen in our lifetimes

It's always been a facade. That's the danger of these labour politicians, they don't really stand for anything. Wes loved Jeremys policies until the media started hitting him, now he loves starmers tory policies, if Starmer were to lose and it was someone else in charge, he'd love their policies. A man blinded by his own ambition to be leader, means that he stands for whatever he thinks will advance himself more.

I tried to warn you about this dude :laugh:

[arista]

"Some" Labour MP's
are saying PM Sunak may call a General Election
in November?


Some Better Labour MP's say it could be
May Next Year
the same day as Local Elections May 2024

Ref: SkyNewsHD/ BBC Newscast

[joeysteele]

After the General Election
if Starmer Wins
he is going back to 2030 original Sunak plan

As I keep saying
It's not really a drastic change either returning to the 2030 position or just going with Sunak's now non event of a change.

I am livid with Starmer, everytime he says something I just groan..
Because I do agree with Slim, that he has been it seems gifted with a great chance to really change things bigtime.

I want this sickening government out.
For the NHS, the poorest, most vulnerable and sick and disabled.
I really am disappointed with the now likely policies that Starmer will present.
That disappointment at that however will be nothing as compared to thinking this rotten FROM the core current Con Party possibly winning again.

Anything that now gets them out is desirable to me.
I will however be very irritated at just what more Labour could have been really setting out to do with this chance at their feet.

[Parmy]

I don't get how people can even be bothered to discuss politics anymore.

[arista]

I don't get how people can even be bothered to discuss politics anymore.


Because at a General Election
all in the UK
can change the PM.



On the Brexit Vote in 2016,
I noticed many people,
voting that were Never at the
normal elections.
So Referendums have a
Massive Super Power.



Politics is all about Change



Feel The Force

[joeysteele]

Because at a General Election
all in the UK
can change the PM.



On the Brexit Vote in 2016,
I noticed many people,
voting that were Never at the
normal elections.
So Referendums have a
Massive Super Power.



Politics is all about Change



Feel The Force

I likely wouldn't have agreed with a lot Mrs Thatcher did.
However she I understood believed holding a referendum as a failure of governnent
So in that I agree.

You can't have a really fair UK wide referendum with a binary question, where England has almost 4 times the voting strength of N.Ireland, Scotland and Wales put together.
However England votes in any referendum, that is the much more than likely result.

For me politics, is life, the governments we elect and all the MPs have a big effect on our lives, families and incomes/livelihoods.

However as to parmnion's point.
I feel so disappointed and even shame at how badly the UK is now served by all leaders and all Parties across politics.
It's really depressing.

[arista]

Yes Joey

David Cameron MP
rushed a In or Out vote,
some who voted out
did it just to get rid of Cameron.


Strange days

[The Slim Reaper]

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