Anyone following the Amber and Johnny trial?

[GoldHeart]

That's the one. I don't see any injuries on her. But look at his eyes ....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/f681f28c4ccf0c7de1366e47ab408129.jpg

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Don't forget Vanessa, Depp is this 'horrible aggressor who slams kitchen cabinets ', therefore it doesn't matter if he gets hit in the face or objects thrown at his head .

It's unbelievable how his injuries are being downplayed by some people :bored: .

[Vanessa]

Elon Musk with a similar injury [emoji848]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/1e1c143cbe49782250322833598f8246.jpg

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[user104658]

:facepalm: Are you talking about the dark circles under his eyes?? Is there an HD version of this because ... if those are black eyes, then my wife must be beating the **** out of me (in reality; my daughter is not sleeping well).

[GoldHeart]

Also as stupid as Heard is , do people really think she'd ever record herself or let Depp record her throwing objects at his head or hitting him.

She can't help herself though,and it's clear as anything in the audio's that she's gas lighting & emotionally blackmailing & manipulating him. If he's so 'abusive' ,then why did she keep stopping him from leaving :whistle:.

If a bloke was attacking & hurting me and throwing me across the room,I wouldn't plead and cry for him to stay. I'd help him leave .

Even in the audio we hear Depp saying she slapped his ear . He recorded stuff aswell.... because she would deny she said anything ,which is what a typical narcissistic does.

She was driving him mad , and his drugs & drinking got out of hand due to her . He was the one at the end of his Tether , he even asked her if she wanted his blood as she'd broken him .

[Vanessa]

Don't forget Vanessa, Depp is this 'horrible aggressor who slams kitchen cabinets ', therefore it doesn't matter if he gets hit in the face or objects thrown at his head .

It's unbelievable how his injuries are being downplayed by some people :bored: .

He definitely has a black eye here.
Rumors are that she hit Elon Musk as well.

[bots]

rumours are.... is always a bit iffy because what that means is there is no proof at all :laugh:

[user104658]

Also as stupid as Heard is , do people really think she'd ever record herself or let Depp record her throwing objects at his head or hitting him.

She can't help herself though,and it's clear as anything in the audio's that she's gas lighting & emotionally blackmailing & manipulating him. If he's so 'abusive' ,then why did she keep stopping him from leaving :whistle:.

If a bloke was attacking & hurting me and throwing me across the room,I wouldn't plead and cry for him to stay. I'd help him leave .

That is simply not an accurate portrayal of abusive relationships; if everyone who was abused "would just leave" there'd be no such thing as an abusive relationship. People SHOULD leave, of course, but that's not what happens ... people still love their abusers, believe it or not.


She was driving him mad , and his drugs & drinking got out of hand due to her . He was the one at the end of his Tether , he even asked her if she wanted his blood as she'd broken him .

His drugs and drinking was out of hand before he even met her, which I assume you must know. He's been a drug addict since his early teens, and he was smashing up rooms when Amber Heard was still in high school.

[GoldHeart]

He definitely has a black eye here.
Rumors are that she hit Elon Musk as well.

She seems to attack every partner she's with, look how long she's been getting away with it.

In the audio's she talks to JD with utter contempt & hate, she brings his kids into the arguements & she belittles him.

Even when he was celebrating with Christopher Lee ,she resented him having fun & having 1 glass of champagne. This is what controlling abuser's do .


They don't want to see their partners happy. He kept trying to leave the room, and get away from the fights & arguments & she would follow him and yell at him she kept grabbing him .

Even when he left ,she'd scream in the car park in her night gown and would follow him in his other home :shocked:. Bloody psychopath . How has she not been sectioned.

[user104658]

rumours are.... is always a bit iffy because what that means is there is no proof at all :laugh:

I'm not sure that Depp himself has even claimed that she'd been boxing his eyes before their wedding (and he inexplicably decided not to attempt to cover it, and went ahead with the wedding) ... people have just seen him with dark-looking eyes in his wedding photos and said "Look! He has black eyes!"

The Musk picture is ludicrous I don't think his eye is even dark, it's literally just his eye bags.

[user104658]

In the audio's she talks to JD with utter contempt & hate, she brings his kids into the arguements & she belittles him.

His kids such as his daughter who is being attacked across social media by Depp's fans for "not being supportive enough"? That's the real way to show your support for someone these days ... attack and threaten their daughter. :thumbs: a lovely group of people.

[Niamh.]

She seems to attack every partner she's with, look how long she's been getting away with it.

In the audio's she talks to JD with utter contempt & hate, she brings his kids into the arguements & she belittles him.

Even when he was celebrating with Christopher Lee ,she resented him having fun & having 1 glass of champagne. This is what controlling abuser's do .


They don't want to see their partners happy. He kept trying to leave the room, and get away from the fights & arguments & she would follow him and yell at him she kept grabbing him .

Even when he left ,she'd scream in the car park in her night gown and would follow him in his other home :shocked:. Bloody psychopath . How has she not been sectioned.

I haven't been following this case much but from what I have picked up JD has an alcohol issue. If he was just your run of the mill average alcoholic and not a famous actor him having "just one drink" would absolutely be an issue

[Beso]

:facepalm: Are you talking about the dark circles under his eyes?? Is there an HD version of this because ... if those are black eyes, then my wife must be beating the **** out of me (in reality; my daughter is not sleeping well).

Amber testified that they were not injuries in court. Probably for that same reason.

[GoldHeart]

His kids such as his daughter who is being attacked across social media by Depp's fans for "not being supportive enough"? That's the real way to show your support for someone these days ... attack and threaten their daughter. :thumbs: a lovely group of people.

Why do you always lump everyone together as "Depp fans" , if anyone is attacking his daughter then they're not a true Depp supporter and they just want to troll.

And you already know how social media is, with the good the bad and the very ugly.


You still haven't told me how Heard's injuries magically disappeared? . And you don't seem that concerned about Depp's severed finger ,he even mentioned in one of the audio's how he's lost his finger because of her.

We can hear her admitting to hitting him in the audio clips. As for for ' not being his mother' , that's just an unnecessary comment .. if you're someone's wife/ husband or partner and regardless of drugs & alcohol you would still want to check on them .

if you see them sleeping in a uncomfortable position with a CIGARETTE in their hand, would you not stop them burning the house down or themselves??! by removing it?.

Why didn't she remove the ice cream that spilled all over him. If you love and care for someone you look out for them ,you don't humiliate them by taking photos and sending it to your mates :bored: .

I don't care what you say ,if any of us were in a long term relationship and our partner fell asleep awkwardly,we would try and see if they're ok .

It's nothing to do with 'mothering' them ,and that's actually an unfair remark when some relationships are like that anyway due to illness or mental health.

I bet it would be perfectly ok though if she gets into a drunken stupor , and collapses on the couch with a bottle of wine . I bet people would expect JD to carry her to bed like a 'baby' as she put it ,when she described him .
If he took photos of her in an embarrassing state passed out ,I bet people would call that 'mean spirited' .

What's ridiculous is some of the photos of JD sleeping , just look like him chilling out or having a nap . Especially the holiday Bahamas one . Why did she take that photo for ? :suspect: .

[GoldHeart]

I haven't been following this case much but from what I have picked up JD has an alcohol issue. If he was just your run of the mill average alcoholic and not a famous actor him having "just one drink" would absolutely be an issue

He didn't want to binge drink ,it was an an awkward moment where everyone was given a glass of champagne ,and he wanted to do a toast to celebrate with Christopher Lee. I don't think he wanted to make a big deal about the whole alcohol thing. Plus he'd been sober for 18 months I think he said.

He himself said it was only a glass , it's not like he was drinking pints of beer or shots of jagers . Yet Heard still had a strop and stormed off to make him feel bad . He said he then left the restaurant because of her behaviour.

And before that she brought his kids into the arguement again , to make him feel useless. And he told her to go sober with him for support and she refused.

She's such a hypocrite, she doesn't want him to drink yet she would neck entire bottles of wine to herself . Even in the audio's she sounds drunk AF . Funny how that isn't being called out .

[arista]

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[Vanessa]

Johnny's lawyer is doing a great job in cross examination.
And Amber has just admitted that the op WAS about Johnny. Result!

[GoldHeart]

There's also no evidence of the smashed phone

Why did she give him a knife as a present of all gifts ,if he was abusive .

And she claims she knew nothing about the kitchen video , getting leaked. She actually said she "wouldn't know how to do that" , what a daft thing for her to say . When she knows exactly how to post videos , if she can happily send photos of Depp sleeping.

[Liam-]

Ambers lawyer is actually useless :joker:

That cross ruined any amount of credibility anybody might have thought she had, proved her to have lied under oath, proved her to have been the instigator of violence on multiple occasions, proved that she has little to no evidence of physical abuse towards her, proved that there is no consistency whatsoever to the tale she’s been spinning, all together, pretty much a disaster for her, will Johnny win the case? I still don’t know, he should because Amber is very clearly a very disturbed individual who has set out to destroy a man before he had the chance to speak the truth, but proving a negative in a defamation case is incredibly hard, especially when we’ve been programmed to automatically believe women no matter what they say or do, time will tell.

Camille though, certified legend.

[ThomasC]

Johnny's lawyer is **** hot.

[hijaxers]

:facepalm: Are you talking about the dark circles under his eyes?? Is there an HD version of this because ... if those are black eyes, then my wife must be beating the **** out of me (in reality; my daughter is not sleeping well).

No the big red slap mark on his face ! are you short sighted or just blinkered ?

[GoldHeart]

AH is Unhinged & twisted, she's actually making excuses for hitting JD in THE HEAD with a door, and then punching him in the face .

Jury will need to be blind & deaf to not see how guilty she is.

And Camille is amazing.

[user104658]

Ambers lawyer is actually useless :joker:

That cross ruined any amount of credibility anybody might have thought she had, proved her to have lied under oath, proved her to have been the instigator of violence on multiple occasions, proved that she has little to no evidence of physical abuse towards her, proved that there is no consistency whatsoever to the tale she’s been spinning, all together, pretty much a disaster for her, will Johnny win the case? I still don’t know, he should because Amber is very clearly a very disturbed individual who has set out to destroy a man before he had the chance to speak the truth, but proving a negative in a defamation case is incredibly hard, especially when we’ve been programmed to automatically believe women no matter what they say or do, time will tell.

Camille though, certified legend.


Liam going full blackpill MRA is a piece of TiBB lore I didn’t know I needed, but it really is a treat :joker:.

Notice that there’s not one straight male over 30 on this forum who has any inclination to support Depp. Why do you think that is? If you think about it, it seems incongruent… why is he getting support from women, teenagers and gay men, but NOT from other straight adult blokes?

My theory; it’s because we ****ing see him. We know exactly who that man is. We’ve met him 20 times over.

[ThomasC]

I watched quite a bit of this yesterday.

There are so many inconsistencies in her version of events.

Having listened to a lot of the audio, he wanted to get away on numerous occasions but she would carry on the argument. He pleaded with her to just have some time out.

All the texts she sent him where he didn't reply, pleading for him to come back.

She was so histrionic and angry from the recordings that I have heard.

So many witness accounts, numerous ones from her physician, nurse etc saying they never saw any marks on her.

He apparently broke the bed, but there happens to be what appears to be s pocket knife on the bed. There's pictures of what she claims he had written on two bathroom mirrors yet she was clever to never capture herself in them.

Audio recordings and pictures don't lie and neither do numerous witness accounts. Yeah maybe if it was just one or two.

He was no angel, quite obviously, but she clearly comes across as someone who was petrified of losing their partner through their own behaviour and would go to any cost to 'keep him'. Makes sense with the diagnosis of BPD and histrionic personality disorder. Those with PD often struggle to keep and maintain relationships.

[Zizu]

Liam going full blackpill MRA is a piece of TiBB lore I didn’t know I needed, but it really is a treat :joker:.

Notice that there’s not one straight male over 30 on this forum who has any inclination to support Depp. Why do you think that is? If you think about it, it seems incongruent… why is he getting support from women, teenagers and gay men, but NOT from other straight adult blokes?

My theory; it’s because we ****ing see him. We know exactly who that man is. We’ve met him 20 times over.


I’m backing him and I’m well over 30 !!

I just see a gold digger and a poor guy who’s addicted to booze and drugz .

He’s hardly alone in having a drink problem .. I’m possibly one of few tea totalers in a staff of over 150 people .

Most people I meet seem to have lives centred around alcohol.


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[ThomasC]

I’m backing him and I’m well over 30 !!

I just see a gold digger and a poor guy who’s addicted to booze and drugz .

He’s hardly alone in having a drink problem .. I’m possibly one of few tea totalers in a staff of over 150 people .

Most people I meet seem to have lives centred around alcohol.


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I'm over 30 too and have no idea what sexuality has to do with it.

If it's because I would find him hot I do not.

I do not find him attractive personally and have never understood the sexual appeal.

I support him because when presented with evidence I believe it shows that she was the abuser.

[Liam-]

TS once again boiling everything down to my sexuality and using it against me, what a shocker, just say you think us gays should sit in the corner and shut up dude, it seems to be your only argument about anything these days, grown tired of hiding your bigotry or something?

[ThomasC]

TS once again boiling everything down to my sexuality and using it against me, what a shocker, just say you think is gays should sit in the corner and shut up dude, it seems to be your only argument about anything these days, grown tired of hiding your bigotry or something?

I just ignore him. He always wants to be right even when he isn't.

[user104658]

TS once again boiling everything down to my sexuality and using it against me, what a shocker, just say you think us gays should sit in the corner and shut up dude, it seems to be your only argument about anything these days, grown tired of hiding your bigotry or something?

You don't think it's relevant to the dynamics of this relationship? It obviously is. That's not bigotry; I wouldn't for one second claim to have any insight into the dynamics of a gay relationship, which is obviously different to a heterosexual relationship, as patriarchal issues don't come into the equation in the same way.

I know some thoughts are supposed to be off limits but I don't and am never going to buy into that.

[Beso]

I’m backing him and I’m well over 30 !!

I just see a gold digger and a poor guy who’s addicted to booze and drugz .

He’s hardly alone in having a drink problem .. I’m possibly one of few tea totalers in a staff of over 150 people .

Most people I meet seem to have lives centred around alcohol.


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You say gold digger...I say successful actress in her own right.


if you see them sleeping in a uncomfortable position with a CIGARETTE in their hand, would you not stop them burning the house down or themselves??! by removing it?.


She did, there is no cigarette in the photo.

[Liam-]

You don't think it's relevant to the dynamics of this relationship? It obviously is. That's not bigotry; I wouldn't for one second claim to have any insight into the dynamics of a gay relationship, which is obviously different to a heterosexual relationship, as patriarchal issues don't come into the equation in the same way.

I know some thoughts are supposed to be off limits but I don't and am never going to buy into that.

Just because I’m not attracted to women, doesn’t mean I’m incapable of understanding straight relationships, I would like to say I’m shocked by the level of sheer ignorance you’re showing, but frankly I’m not, you’ve shown nothing but contempt for gay men for a long while now, at least you’re doing it out in the open now rather than snide digs I suppose

[Vanessa]

Amber former friend Rocky Pennington just testified that Amber hit her on the cheek!
Finally someone is telling the truth! About time!

[michael21]

Amber former friend Rocky Pennington just testified that Amber hit her on the cheek!
Finally someone is telling the truth! About time!

She got a cheek :hehe:

[user104658]

Just because I’m not attracted to women, doesn’t mean I’m incapable of understanding straight relationships, I would like to say I’m shocked by the level of sheer ignorance you’re showing, but frankly I’m not, you’ve shown nothing but contempt for gay men for a long while now, at least you’re doing it out in the open now rather than snide digs I suppose

I didn't say you can't have some insight into straight relationships but the claim that you have the same insight into the male/female power dynamic of a straight relationship, how it's affected by male/female socialisation etc., to the same degree as people who have experience of those relationships is surely ... not really sensible? Are there other topics that you think you have just as much insight into as people who have experienced them? And why on earth would you think that?

I know it's easier to accuse someone of bigotry than to actually engage with a discussion; a lot of people end up going there when they've run out of things to say. Feel free to quote those comments that show "open contempt" or even "snide digs", though. I'm sure you won't have time/can't be bothered "but they definitely exist" etc.

[Vanessa]

She stormed out of the court!
The judge told her that she could go and sit with her lawyer, but she just walked out [emoji1787]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220518/4249e6d29759df385373b130011cceed.jpg

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[Beso]

She walked out, thays what we saw. We saw amber heard walk out. She didnt storm out.

[Liam-]

You’ve spent the last couple of weeks saying anybody that disagreed with you about this case is definitely a mysoginistic MRA, the only thing you replied to my post with was that and the use of my sexuality to attack me rather than discussing the points I made, I’m not gonna take debating advice from you thank you very much.

Are the dynamics of same sex relationships different to those of straight relationships? Maybe so, but difference being, I would never tell you that your opinion doesn’t matter as much or that you have no idea what you were talking about because of your sexuality, it’s demeaning, ignorant and wholly offensive, but if you’re happy to do so under the guise of being some free thinking intellectual, crack on and I honestly haven’t gone the time, patience, or inclination to highlight all of your thinly veiled homophobia tbh, I’m just gonna go back to how I used this forum when it was obvious what sort of opinions and attitudes have been allowed to dominate this forum, had enough.

[Vanessa]

She walked out, thays what we saw. We saw amber heard walk out. She didnt storm out.

She left before the jury and judge. That's bad. She could be held in contempt of court.

[user104658]

You’ve spent the last couple of weeks saying anybody that disagreed with you about this case is definitely a mysoginistic MRA, the only thing you replied to my post with was that and the use of my sexuality to attack me rather than discussing the points I made, I’m not gonna take debating advice from you thank you very much.

Are the dynamics of same sex relationships different to those of straight relationships? Maybe so, but difference being, I would never tell you that your opinion doesn’t matter as much or that you have no idea what you were talking about because of your sexuality, it’s demeaning, ignorant and wholly offensive, but if you’re happy to do so under the guise of being some free thinking intellectual, crack on and I honestly haven’t gone the time, patience, or inclination to highlight all of your thinly veiled homophobia tbh, I’m just gonna go back to how I used this forum when it was obvious what sort of opinions and attitudes have been allowed to dominate this forum, had enough.

You wouldn't have something to say if myself or, let's say, Leather Trumpet declared that they have just as much understanding of gay relationships as gay members of the forum? I find that unlikely to be honest and ... well ... it just isn't true, we obviously don't, it's not offensive in any way to say that people who have experienced something have more insight into that topic than people who have not. What a world where we have to accept that everyone just innately understands every topic as well as everyone else.

I didn't say "your opinion doesn't matter" or "you don't know what you're talking about" - in my opinion there's a huge aspect of The Patriarchal Bargain baked into the Depp/Heard relationship, and that some people (people who have looked in the mirror and had to fight a little Johnny Depp) are more likely to see through his act than those who have not been there.

Valuing lived experience is normal. It's not weird, or offensive. This is just like when people who don't have kids claim to understand parenting issues just as well as those who have lived it - maybe because they have a nephew or neice or something. Yes they can have an opinion but there are aspects that they simply CANNOT know or understand. Why is that offensive? Why is it important for you to feel like your opinion on every topic is as valuable as every other persons? I'm finding this all really a bit odd, as above it's ME qho is being accused of that... when the opposite is in fact true. I fully acknowledge that people with lived experience of a situation know more about it than I do and their thoughts should be given more weight. It's you who is arguing the contrary ... that your thoughts are equal, regardless. :shrug:.

Again, I suspected you "wouldn't have time" to highlight the posts full of homophobia, I know it's easier to just throw that out there as a conversation stopper and then accuse other people of being the one throwing around insults.

[Zizu]

She walked out, thays what we saw. We saw amber heard walk out. She didnt storm out.


Sitting next to her lawyer and walking out of the court are completely different things aren’t they ?

I can’t imagine that you are allowed to just walk out of a trial without permission


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[Vanessa]

Sitting next to her lawyer and walking out of the court are completely different things aren’t they ?

I can’t imagine that you are allowed to just walk out of a trial without permission


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She just did. Very disrespectful towards the judge and jury

[Beso]

Sitting next to her lawyer and walking out of the court are completely different things aren’t they ?

I can’t imagine that you are allowed to just walk out of a trial without permission


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Everytime I've finished giving my evidence in court I've been free to walk out the court room.:shrug:

[user104658]

She left before the jury and judge. That's bad. She could be held in contempt of court.

Sitting next to her lawyer and walking out of the court are completely different things aren’t they ?

I can’t imagine that you are allowed to just walk out of a trial without permission


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Contempt of court is, specifically, ignoring or disobeying an order from the judge - which means she's only in contempt of court if she started leaving and the judge instructed her not to leave (which they would have done, surely, had she not been allowed to leave) and she left anyway ... or if the judge sent someone out to order her to return to the court room and she refused.

If the judge didn't tell her not to leave when she started walking out then she's not in contempt of court.

[user104658]

If we take the example of classic and authentic courtroom drama "Liar Liar" as an example - Jim Carey's character is held in contempt of court, but it's not because of WHAT he's saying, it's because the judge orders him to stop and he continues. That's what puts him in contempt of court :hee:.

[Niamh.]

If we take the example of classic and authentic courtroom drama "Liar Liar" as an example - Jim Carey's character is held in contempt of court, but it's not because of WHAT he's saying, it's because the judge orders him to stop and he continues. That's what puts him in contempt of court :hee:.

A classic

[Zizu]

Everytime I've finished giving my evidence in court I've been free to walk out the court room.:shrug:


Ahhh

I’ve never been in a courtroom.. or even a police station so I’ve no experience on these matters

Courts always seem so strictly controlled though


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[user104658]

A classic

It's really my go-to for courtroom knowledge.

...Which is ironic because the central principle of the trial is actually an error: in California, if a minor enters into a contract without parental co-signature it is voidable while they are still a minor ... but two years after becoming an adult the contract becomes fully valid (because they've had two years of adulthood to declare it void and have chosen not to do so, implying consent).

Since they've been married for several years and she's well past 20 in the film, the pre-nup contract stands! Jim is wrong, and they should have lost the case! :omgno:

There's some movie trivia for you :joker:

[Niamh.]

It's really my go-to for courtroom knowledge.

...Which is ironic because the central principle of the trial is actually an error: in California, if a minor enters into a contract without parental co-signature it is voidable while they are still a minor ... but two years after becoming an adult the contract becomes fully valid (because they've had two years of adulthood to declare it void and have chosen not to do so, implying consent).

Since they've been married for several years and she's well past 20 in the film, the pre-nup contract stands! Jim is wrong, and they should have lost the case! :omgno:

There's some movie trivia for you :joker:

:o

I demand a retrial!

[GoldHeart]

You don't think it's relevant to the dynamics of this relationship? It obviously is. That's not bigotry; I wouldn't for one second claim to have any insight into the dynamics of a gay relationship, which is obviously different to a heterosexual relationship, as patriarchal issues don't come into the equation in the same way.

I know some thoughts are supposed to be off limits but I don't and am never going to buy into that.

You're not making any sense. Heard was violent to one of her ex's who was a WOMAN ,So doesn't that show that domestic violence can happen to same sex couple's.

She denies being violent of course like a typical abuser, despite there being witnesses. She even had the nerve to blame Depp for somehow setting that up as 'bad press'.

I'm sure there's plenty of straight men over 30 who support him . I don't know why it matters either way. People can see through AH ' s lies ,the cross examination was embarrassing on her part. Camille asks her a question and she turns to face the jury instead to try and manipulate her own narrative. She also doesn't 'recall' so many things ,yet remembers other things.

I could tell Camille was frustrated with her inconsistencies & contradictions especially with the 'bottle assault' , how exactly did he hold her down by the neck but also use the bottle with a severed bleeding finger .

She also took the mirror photos AFTER the assault aswell, instead of her trying to phone the police,or ambulance or even take photos of her horrific injuries as proof. She'd rather just take photos of drawings on mirrors :conf: :crazy: .

[user104658]

Goldheart I can't keep saying that the vast majority of domestic abuse victims don't report their abuser to the authorities or seek medical attention (because the healthcare provider is likely to call the police). This is just one of the basic hurdles of the domestic abuse problem all across the globe. Victims don't report their abusers. Victims stay with their abusers for far longer than most people can understand. That's how abuse cycles work... if everyone immediately reported and left their abuser there wouldn't be the gargantuan domestic abuse problems that there are.

You have this idea that if someone doesn't report it, they must not have been abused. That if someone doesn't seek medical attention, they must not have been abused. That if someone successfully hides their injuries (and trauma) from others, they must not have been abused ... ... you're just wrong about all of the above. That's not "opinion" it's just fact, as I said my wife works with domestic abuse victims (not in a small/voluntary sort of role, as a highly trained professional) and the things some of those women have been through make ANYTHING in the Depp/Heard case look like childsplay. Really, genuinely horrific things that would make your mind boggle.

Most of them have never called the police.

And not to go super-bleak but... most of the time when they do call the police, absolutely nothing happens.

[GoldHeart]

TS you selectively pick bits of my comments, you say nothing about why Heard took photos after her assault of the silly mirrors , what was the point?!??. I don't care what anyone says ..if she can take photos of the mirrors then she can take photos of herself injured. Not to get too graphic but if she was ' BLEEDING from her frontal area' ,wouldn't she want to have some form of evidence.

Plus as I keep saying whether you report this or not ,she claimed she was bleeding. So you best believe she wouldn't be able to just swan around the rooms taking photos of mirrors. Going to the bathroom would be agony,she would not be able to hide her pain ,I'm sorry but no.

And the photos she DID take of herself show hardly any bruises or injuries to match the violence she described. Her lips looked like she had a cold sore , Depp had a severed finger and blood was everywhere. How did he assault her with a severed finger? .

I'm not stupid ,I know many domestic violence victims stay and don't report things. But Heard wasn't locked away from her family and friends, which is usually what alot of abuser's do ,they actually stop their victim from seeing their families & friends .

But this was the total opposite, her friends and family were staying with Heard in Depp's penthouses. Heard even took the Mickey and changed the locks and invited James Franco over for an affair, is this the action of someone scared and in an abusive relationship???.

[user104658]

Again I'm not going to keep going in circles; the post above was really just about the (incorrect) ideas people have about abusive relationships in general, not specific to the Depp/Heard case.

You could equally ask, is slamming doors/smashing glasses/grabbing phones the actions of someone who is scared of an abuser? Because there's video of Johnny doing that but you don't seem to have any questions about why he doesn't seem scared in that video (quite the opposite).

Neither of us are going to change our opinions on Depp so I find this back and forth sort of pointless at this point, when it's just retreading new ground and not going over new information. I'm not "bowing out" per se but I'm not going to keep having the same discussion over and over.

[GoldHeart]

Yeah it is going round in circles, especially when her unstable behaviour never gets addressed .

There's audio's of her cackling like a possessed witch , she's taunting JD about his age , calling him a joke and mocking his career.

In another audio he clearly says he wants time away from her ,and she won't let him leave. Even when he's trying to see his own daughter she won't let him. She was being possessive & manipulative & kept emotionally blackmailing him. But she's the ' victim ' suuure :bored: .

[Vanessa]

Yeah it is going round in circles, especially when her unstable behaviour never gets addressed .

There's audio's of her cackling like a possessed witch , she's taunting JD about his age , calling him a joke and mocking his career.

In another audio he clearly says he wants time away from her ,and she won't let him leave. Even when he's trying to see his own daughter she won't let him. She was being possessive & manipulative & kept emotionally blackmailing him. But she's the ' victim ' suuure :bored: .
She lied under oath in UK and Australia.
And its finally catching up with her.

[GoldHeart]

She lied under oath in UK and Australia.
And its finally catching up with her.

It's laughable & pathetic how she thinks Depp is a 'joke' , when she only got her role in Aquaman thanks to him .

And he's had a much better successful career ,than she'll ever have. He even tells her that she shows no interest in his movies, I don't think she even knows what movies he's been in .

[Vanessa]

It's laughable & pathetic how she thinks Depp is a 'joke' , when she only got her role in Aquaman thanks to him .

And he's had a much better successful career ,than she'll ever have. He even tells her that she shows no interest in his movies, I don't think she even knows what movies he's been in .

He's had an amazing career. I love his work.

[GoldHeart]

He's had an amazing career. I love his work.

Same , he's a really good actor . I've enjoyed loads of his movies :love: .

[Cherie]

Everytime I've finished giving my evidence in court I've been free to walk out the court room.:shrug:


Who saw that plot twist coming...not me :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Amber and her friends discussing threateningly Johnny with knives if he doesn't behave while she's gone.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220518/6a045da96d724ec42dfebe15c456e60a.jpg

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[user104658]

Really, really clutching at straws.

[Vanessa]

She also brought him a big knife.
To someone she said is abusing her [emoji15]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220518/3d5db40891f7daedb9e1aba11cee79b4.jpg

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[GoldHeart]

Really, really clutching at straws.

With what exactly

[GoldHeart]

She also brought him a big knife.
To someone she said is abusing her [emoji15]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220518/3d5db40891f7daedb9e1aba11cee79b4.jpg

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Yep
Complete mess , if I'm being battered by my husband,I would NEVER buy him a KNIFE of all gifts . That's like buying a heroin addict a syringe or a diabetic a big bag of sugar.

It's senseless :facepalm: .

[user104658]

With what exactly

That it's an actual plan to threaten him with knives rather than dark humour; it's the exact same sort of dark humour that there are examples of in messages between Depp and Heard themselves.

[GoldHeart]

That it's an actual plan to threaten him with knives rather than dark humour; it's the exact same sort of dark humour that there are examples of in messages between Depp and Heard themselves.

Why did she buy a 'violent wife beater' a knife as a gift? , I'd love to hear this excuse.

[Beso]

Why did she buy a 'violent wife beater' a knife as a gift? , I'd love to hear this excuse.

So he could slit his wrists?

[user104658]

There are ambiguities in the sordid conflict between the divorced actors Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, but some things are clear.

Depp texted a friend that he wanted to kill Heard and then have sex with “her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she is dead.” There is a video of Depp smashing kitchen cabinets while Heard tries to calm him, saying, at one point, “All I did was say ‘sorry’!” In an audio recording, she tells him to go put his “cigarettes out on someone else,” and he responded, “Shut up, fat ass.”

He admitted to head-butting her, though he said it was an accident. When Heard went to court to get a domestic violence restraining order against Depp, she had a bruise on her cheekbone from where she said he threw a phone at her.

In 2018, The Sun, a British newspaper, called Depp a “wife beater,” and he sued for libel. Proving libel is much easier in Britain than in the United States, because there the burden of proof rests with the defendant. Depp lost his case. A judge, evaluating 14 incidents of Depp’s alleged abuse of Heard, found that 12 of them had occurred and concluded that The Sun’s words were “substantially true.”

Now Depp is suing Heard in Virginia for $50 million, saying that she defamed him when she described herself, in a Washington Post opinion essay that didn’t mention Depp, as “a public figure representing domestic abuse.” His case seems absurd, since even if he were entirely innocent, the British verdict was well known, and Heard was referring to what she symbolized, not what she allegedly endured. (She is countersuing for $100 million.)

If Depp somehow prevails, one can expect similar lawsuits against other women who say they’ve survived abuse. Already, the singer Marilyn Manson has filed a defamation suit against his ex-fiancée Evan Rachel Wood, one of several women who have accused him of sexual violence.

But Depp needn’t succeed in court to achieve his ends. In a 2016 email to his former agent, Christian Carino, Depp wrote that Heard was “begging for total global humiliation.” Now this televised trial has resulted in an explosion of hatred and derision directed at her. The volatile actress — who at times was violent toward Depp, and who never made good on a promise to donate her entire divorce settlement to charity — is very far from a perfect victim. That made her the perfect object of a #MeToo backlash.

Online, there’s a level of industrial-scale bullying directed at Heard that puts all previous social media pile-ons to shame. Countless videos skewer Heard on TikTok; the ’NSync member Lance Bass joined in the trend of mockingly re-enacting her testimony. A makeup brand even took part in the anti-Heard melee, posting a TikTok video meant to contradict her lawyer’s description of how she covered up bruises. Meanwhile, every platform appears to be full of adoring pro-Depp memes. “Why Does It Seem Like the Entire Internet Is Team Johnny Depp?” said a Vice

But it’s not just the internet. “Believe all women, except Amber Heard,” Chris Rock joked recently. A “Saturday Night Live” sketch last weekend turned one of Depp’s wildest accusations against Heard into a skit, treating her as a figure of ridicule and him as a charming scamp.
This doesn’t mean that the case is entirely straightforward. Heard has admitted hitting Depp, and has been recorded insulting and belittling him. The couple’s marital counselor testified that they engaged in “mutual abuse,” saying of Heard, “It was a point of pride to her, if she felt disrespected, to initiate a fight.”

Some domestic violence experts consider mutual abuse a myth, arguing that while both partners in a toxic relationship can behave terribly, one usually exercises power over the other. But even if you believe that Heard acted inexcusably, the idea that she was the primary aggressor — against a larger man with far more resources who was recorded cursing at her for daring to speak in an “authoritative” way — defies logic.

Indeed, one of the most salacious details from the trial — the one that’s been used to jeer at Heard across every form of media — might just as easily fit into a story of her victimization. Depp, you may know by now, accused Heard or one of her friends of defecating in her bed as an act of revenge, and his bodyguard said she’d confessed to a prank gone wrong. Heard testified that one of their dogs, incontinent since eating Depp’s weed as a puppy, defiled the bed. “It was not really a jovial time, and I don’t think that’s funny, period,” she said. “That’s disgusting.”

If she’s telling the truth, one has to marvel at how thoroughly Depp and his team have sullied her name. When Depp testified, the hashtags #AmberTurd and #MePoo shot across the internet. The image of Heard, a woman whose brand is bombshell blond glamour, is now linked, perhaps permanently, to excrement. If she’s not a psychopath, she’s the casualty of a truly sadistic reputational hit job.

It’s worth noting that in 2020, Bot Sentinel, a group that tracks online disinformation and harassment, was hired by Heard’s lawyers to analyze the social media campaign against her. “Everyone thinks that any activity against them is bots or whatever,” the group’s founder, Chris Bouzy, told me. But in this case, some of it was — Bouzy estimated that there were 340 “inauthentic” Twitter accounts devoted to defaming Heard and amplifying petitions calling for her to be fired from acting and modeling gigs. “A small number of accounts can drive conversations on Twitter,” he said.

Yet even if trolls and bots helped juice anti-Heard mania, there are obviously plenty of real people participating in it. Some of them are obsessive Depp fans; as Kaitlyn Tiffany wrote in The Atlantic, there’s a history of online communities fixating “on theories that the male objects of their fandom were being manipulated and tortured by less-famous, female romantic partners.”

There seems, however, to be a broader misogynist frenzy at work, one characteristic of the deeply reactionary moment we’re living through. “She will hit the wall hard!!!” Depp wrote in the email to Carino. Looks like he knew his audience.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/18/opinion/amber-heard-metoo.html

For anyone who would like to give some thought to a more nuanced, well considered article about this situation instead of watching YouTube videos and shockingly distasteful TikTok clips with “funny music”.

[Niamh.]

Great article TS, thanks

[Cherie]

I haven’t followed this at all, I believe the British courts got the judgement correct...he is a nasty piece of work, she is no angel but entitled to refer to herself as a victim of domestic abuse without being lambasted for it

[Vanessa]

We all know they had a lot of fights and arguments.
But Amber has admitted herself to hitting Johnny. She's not an innocent party at all.
"I was hitting you, I wasn't punching you?"
Like there is a difference? :umm2:

[GoldHeart]

We all know they had a lot of fights and arguments.
But Amber has admitted herself to hitting Johnny. She's not an innocent party at all.
"I was hitting you, I wasn't punching you?"
Like there is a difference? :umm2:

Plus if he was so 'violent' ...why did he allow her family and friends to live in his penthouses with them, abusers usually keep their victim AWAY from loved ones so that they can keep it a secret & so they can control them more.

AH's family and friends are the biggest leeches & biggest freeloaders, they all lived in JD's penthouses RENT FREE, the sister openly admits several times to doing "cocaine" with JD ,yet they have the nerve to call JD a 'drug addict ' .

They took advantage of JD, and alot of the photos look staged to me . And how do we know her friends weren't trashing his property aswell ,they all took drugs & got high. Her sister told the court room that she wasn't always sober.

Plus she joked about JD 'hitting ' her sister, that doesn't sound like concern to me if they genuinely thought he was this 'woman beating monster ' , then why was the sister trying to help them stay together.

[Liam-]

I feel really sorry for Johnny, he fell in love with someone and she and her friends and family used him at his lowest moments so that they could leech off of his money and then she physically and mentally abused him as payment, a perfect victim he isn’t, he’s very clearly troubled which stems from the abuse he suffered at the hands of his mother and rather than help him, she took advantage of him, ridiculed him along with her friends at his lowest moments, abused his trust and privacy for their own gain, it’s truly sad that a mans life has been ruined by her and if the gender roles were reversed, with the exact amount of evidence there is against Amber, this entire thing wouldn’t even be a question.

[michael21]

When dose it end the scary trail

[GoldHeart]

Sadly JD's downfall is he's very trusting , they took advantage of his vulnerability & his kindness.

Once he could see he was being used & mocked , he didn't want to be around them.And that's when they threw a hissy fit and refused to leave ,they were basically like tramps squatting.

And Heard changed the locks on HIS property. Heard & her sister & friends ,should all be ashamed of themselves...they're like cockroaches.

[user104658]

The fairytales people will tell themselves are astounding; I swear Johnny Depp becomes a purer little snowflake with each passing day. This is a troubled guy who has had substance abuse and violence issues for decades (even if you forget anything to do with Amber Heard) and he's now being painted as this saintly, innocent figure who was simply so naive and pure that he was duped by a devil-woman.

An almost 50 year old man who had been in the entertainment industry for several decades... being given the narrative that he simply fell from the heavens and couldn't have known what he was getting into.

I think perhaps people have watched "Edward Scissor Hands" one too many times.

[Nicky91]

Amber needs to be locked up in a mental asylum :umm2:



poor Johnny :( i myself have always liked him as actor, my dad likes him too (especially his role as Tonto in Lone Ranger which he finds stunningly played) we find him equally as good of a Willy Wonka as Gene Wilder was

[user104658]

Amber needs to be locked up in a mental asylum :umm2:



poor Johnny :( i myself have always liked him as actor, my dad likes him too (especially his role as Tonto in Lone Ranger which he finds stunningly played)

Nothing like a good dose of objectivity Nicky :joker:

we find him equally as good of a Willy Wonka as Gene Wilder was

... ... ... ... ... ... Now this is the real defamation case right here. What an absolutely ludicrous statement.

I mean I don't even think Depp's even BAD...

but Gene Wilder's Wonka is on another level. Not just to Depp's Wonka but in terms of movie performances throughout history.

[Niamh.]

Nothing like a good dose of objectivity Nicky :joker:



... ... ... ... ... ... Now this is the real defamation case right here. What an absolutely ludicrous statement.

I mean I don't even think Depp's even BAD...

but Gene Wilder's Wonka is on another level. Not just to Depp's Wonka but in terms of movie performances throughout history.

Depp was definitely channeling is inner Michael Jackson for that remake. I hated the remake, I never understood why they need to remake films that were already loved like Point Break as well, the remake was awful. Why not take a film that was a good idea but poorly executed from the 70/s/80's/90's and try and make it better instead of ruining a classic?

[Beso]

His own agent saying the business was fed up with his lateness and unproffesionalism down to his drug and alcohol abuse.

[Vanessa]

He's clean now.

[user104658]

He's clean now.


He wasn’t when they were together so that’s really not relevant. People who in the past have had substance problems and have been abusive cleaning up their act is a good thing - if they take responsibility for and are apologetic for their behaviour when they were on binges. Depp seems to take no responsibility at all for his drink and drug fuelled episodes… sees them as something that happened “to him” not something “he did”. Who could blame poor little Johnny for what he did when he was absolutely out of his tree and doesn’t even remember?

[Vanessa]

He wasn’t when they were together so that’s really not relevant. People who in the past have had substance problems and have been abusive cleaning up their act is a good thing - if they take responsibility for and are apologetic for their behaviour when they were on binges. Depp seems to take no responsibility at all for his drink and drug fuelled episodes… sees them as something that happened “to him” not something “he did”. Who could blame poor little Johnny for what he did when he was absolutely out of his tree and doesn’t even remember?
Amber and her freeloading friends were all doing drink and drugs as well.
So they are not squeaky clean either.
Amber nurse has testified that she had a drink and cocaine problem.

[Beso]

He's clean now.

Only because hes skint.

[Vanessa]

Only because hes skint.

Hardly. He still has an estimated net worth if 150 million dollars.

[Beso]

Hardly. He still has an estimated net worth if 150 million dollars.

Why would he go scrounging for 20 million from a film company in 2016 then?

Greed?

[ThomasC]

Only because hes skint.

What planet you on :joker::joker:

You're either a troll or just not very clever

[Beso]

What planet you on :joker::joker:

You're either a troll or just not very clever

I will ask you then.

If he was so rich, why, in 2016 did he ask a film company for a non refundable 20 million US dollars...

[user104658]

Just as a general FYI the vast majority of celebs do not actually have their “projected net worth” in cash & assets or even close to it. I highly, highly doubt Johnny Depp has $150 million in the bank. Though I doubt he’s skint.

As for why he’s now clean; at 58 he’s most likely simply burnt the candle at both ends for so long that he’s now tired. FWIW I do believe that it was Depp that ended their relationship in the end, and that he did it because he burnt himself out. Alongside the abuse, their relationship obviously was codependent and emotionally intense, and he simply got too old for it.

[Vanessa]

Just as a general FYI the vast majority of celebs do not actually have their “projected net worth” in cash & assets or even close to it. I highly, highly doubt Johnny Depp has $150 million in the bank. Though I doubt he’s skint.

As for why he’s now clean; at 58 he’s most likely simply burnt the candle at both ends for so long that he’s now tired. FWIW I do believe that it was Depp that ended their relationship in the end, and that he did it because he burnt himself out. Alongside the abuse, their relationship obviously was codependent and emotionally intense, and he simply got too old for it.
I think most of it is invested. So assets. Like houses, for example.

[ThomasC]

I will ask you then.

If he was so rich, why, in 2016 did he ask a film company for a non refundable 20 million US dollars...

He gets paid about 20 million a year or 20 million per film

I would suspect because he's in huge demand. He is one of the highest paid actors in recent years

[Beso]

So the 20 million would have been because all his wealth is tied up In property and possessions, and rather than sell anything to keep his 2million per month lavish lifestyle going he went cap in hand to a film studio expecting them to just give him 20 million for nothing.

[Zizu]

I will ask you then.

If he was so rich, why, in 2016 did he ask a film company for a non refundable 20 million US dollars...


Only a thought

Maybe he thought they would pay it given they needed him in the franchise ?

That was just about the time they would be negotiating his terms for the 5th Pirates movie


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[ThomasC]

So the 20 million would have been because all his wealth is tied up In property and possessions, and rather than sell anything to keep his 2million per month lavish lifestyle going he went cap in hand to a film studio expecting them to just give him 20 million for nothing.

Do you have a link to this information?

[Vanessa]

He gets paid about 20 million a year or 20 million per year.

I would suspect because he's in huge demand. He is one of the highest paid actors in recent years

Yes and he's still working.
Maybe not on Hollywood, but that may not be a bad thing.
His movie in France sounds interesting.

[Beso]

He gets paid about 20 million a year or 20 million per year.

I would suspect because he's in huge demand. He is one of the highest paid actors in recent years

He ain't worked in hollywood since 2016, and is no longer in huge demand because he is a wife beater, and was until recently an unpredictable and unreliable drink n drug addict, that no company wants to touch due to his unreliability.

[Beso]

Do you have a link to this information?

Try watching the trial, I'm not you laccy.

[Nicky91]

cannot watch anything anymore with Amber in it :yuk: disgusting woman


now her role in Drive Angry makes sense, she actually is the devil, since she is a devil in real life

:laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:

[Nicky91]

Amber Heard and Nicolas Cage belong with each other

both attention seeking talentless losers

[ThomasC]

He ain't worked in hollywood since 2016, and is no longer in huge demand because he is a wife beater, and was until recently an unpredictable and unreliable drink n drug addict, that no company wants to touch due to his unreliability.

:joker::joker::joker:

[Vanessa]

There is still no evidence that he hit anyone.
Only what Amber and her cronies say.
And Amber has already lied. So why should I believe her?
She lied under oath that she donated the divorce money to charity.
Also her accounts don't match with that of her friends.
There are way too many differences.
They haven't done their homework....

[Vanessa]

cannot watch anything anymore with Amber in it :yuk: disgusting woman


now her role in Drive Angry makes sense, she actually is the devil, since she is a devil in real life

:laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:

Whitney friend Jennifer said that Amber is known to be extremely violent. Of course I knew shw would be covering for her sister. She's terrified of her.
Did you see the way Amber was staring at her? Scary

[Beso]

Heards make up artist knows the truth.

[GoldHeart]

When the sister was testifying , Heard looked at her like she was thinking "that's it stick to the story ", I bet she'll get violent with her if she goes against her .

[Vanessa]

When the sister was testifying , Heard looked at her like she was thinking "that's it stick to the story ", I bet she'll get violent with her if she goes against her .

Her former friend Jennifer just testified that Amber and Whitney are lying.
Really hope they get done for perjury. They really think they can get away with it :fist:

[Zizu]

Didn’t JD lose a similar case last year ??

How ?


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[Vanessa]

Didn’t JD lose a similar case last year ??

How ?


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He dismissed all the evidence . He said Amber was telling the truth because she donated her divorce settlement to charity.
Now we now she did not donate the money. So she lied under oath.

[Zizu]

He dismissed all the evidence . He said Amber was telling the truth because she donated her divorce settlement to charity.
Now we now she did not donate the money. So she lied under oath.


Ah ..

He appears to be simply too trusting


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[user104658]

Didn’t JD lose a similar case last year ??

How ?


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He dismissed all the evidence . He said Amber was telling the truth because she donated her divorce settlement to charity.

Now we now she did not donate the money. So she lied under oath.



???

Because the judge found 12 of the 14 accounts of abuse to be substantiated (true) Zizu, please don’t listen to this TikTok fantasy version of events.

[user104658]

When the sister was testifying , Heard looked at her like she was thinking "that's it stick to the story ", I bet she'll get violent with her if she goes against her .


Just utter nonsense at this point. Complete delusion.

[Beso]

When the sister was testifying , Heard looked at her like she was thinking "that's it stick to the story ", I bet she'll get violent with her if she goes against her .

Lets hope you never get jury duty.

[GoldHeart]

Just utter nonsense at this point. Complete delusion.

The only delusion is Heard & her pals

[GoldHeart]

On another note, that fiji water is getting some serious advertising. Seems like a popular water brand ....EXPENSIVE but popular .

Makes me feel like trying it , despite it probably just being like regular water lol.

[GoldHeart]

Heards make up artist knows the truth.

Yep that she's lying

[Beso]

Yep that she's lying

No, the fact she has covered up bruises.

Why would she lie?

[GoldHeart]

No, the fact she has covered up bruises.

Why would she lie?

She even let slip that she can 'create bruises' .

[user104658]

She even let slip that she can 'create bruises' .

Why would a make up artist lie under oath for Amber Heard? You’re surely not going to go with “because otherwise evil Amber Heard would beat her up!!” reasoning this time? It was silly enough about her sister.

[GoldHeart]

Why would a make up artist lie under oath for Amber Heard? You’re surely not going to go with “because otherwise evil Amber Heard would beat her up!!” reasoning this time? It was silly enough about her sister.

You think it's silly that her sister would lie under oath??, Despite being BIAS ? that's funny.

Also the makeup artist wasn't physically in the courtroom ,her testimony was prerecorded .

[GoldHeart]

Also ... just so you know Botox can cause that type of 'bruising ' aswell. And we all know Heard has had cosmetic surgery.

[Beso]

You think it's silly that her sister would lie under oath??, Despite being BIAS ? that's funny.

Also the makeup artist wasn't physically in the courtroom ,her testimony was prerecorded .

The make up artist was answering questions via webcam.

[Beso]

Also ... just so you know Botox can cause that type of 'bruising ' aswell. And we all know Heard has had cosmetic surgery.



Botox can cause a split lip?

[GoldHeart]

Botox can cause a split lip?

That was a cold sore what she had, if her lips were so painful that she couldn't move them .. then why was her mouth as wide as a HIPPO on the James corden show straight after the 'injury' .

[Vanessa]

She picks at her lips. She has done so throughout the trial. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220520/cd1be0a8a29847df3ed87207ba5a4826.jpg

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[GoldHeart]

She picks at her lips. She has done so throughout the trial. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220520/cd1be0a8a29847df3ed87207ba5a4826.jpg

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And she also has a history of self harming herself

[Beso]

And johnny smashes up kitchens, and gets threateningly grabby on red wine.

[GoldHeart]

And johnny smashes up kitchens, and gets threateningly grabby on red wine.

Because Heard & her sister & friends never got high or drunk , and never got angry and smashed anything .... sure Jan.

[user104658]

You think it's silly that her sister would lie under oath??, Despite being BIAS ? that's funny.

Also the makeup artist wasn't physically in the courtroom ,her testimony was prerecorded .


I think the suggestion that she only backed up Amber because otherwise Amber would beat her up is utterly mind bogglingly ridiculous.

Here’s another great article. Not that you’ll read it. Boo Amber heard etc.

https://www.vox.com/culture/23131538/johnny-depp-amber-heard-tiktok-snl-extremism?fbclid=IwAR3vK1pHSMaxmgMEfbAWZ5VP6v73rWW gaREjfF7lLXKRlCbAZkE69YXlP54

[Beso]

Because Heard & her sister & friends never got high or drunk , and never got angry and smashed anything .... sure Jan.

I dont know, I ain't seen them on video yet.

[user104658]

Posting again with some quotes since I don't think people always follow links, though on this I think you should, the whole article is brilliant and important.

Around the third or fourth time I logged into Twitter to find “#AmberHeardIsAPsychopath” at the top of the trending list, I realized that there was no longer any pretending that the Depp-Heard defamation trial was not a terrible, foreboding reflection of our culture’s worst impulses.

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The media has covered the degree to which this trial has served as a referendum on the Me Too movement and a siren call to domestic abusers.

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The narrative of the trial has been shaped in part by what appears to be, according to multiple researchers, an army of bots spreading rhetoric favorable to Depp.

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The work of those bots has been further amplified by “men’s rights activists” — the part of the far-right-leaning extremist “manosphere” that seems to have decided discrediting Amber Heard is the key to destroying every woman who accuses men of abuse or domestic violence.

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Trial memes — almost universally weighted against Heard — have taken over every corner of the internet, from TikTok to Twitch to Etsy.

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Totally unrelated accounts seem to have given themselves over to full-time Depp-Heard trial mockery, to the point where the actual substance of the testimony seems completely irrelevant beside the need to mine the proceedings for entertainment. Sure, Amber Heard cried while on the stand, but did you see how ridiculous she looked while doing it?

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At what point before the bot armies and men’s rights activists poisoned the well of discourse around this trial could a reasonable assessment of the evidence and the facts have been made? Did that point ever exist?

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the white supremacist alt-right movement has a long history of memeifying everything they want to normalize and legitimize, and keep in the forefront of your mind that the alt-right latched onto this case as its bulwark long before fandom and the internet at large did.

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Again and again over the course of this trial, basic human empathy seems to have completely flown out the window. More than that, nuance feels impossible, and there doesn’t seem to be room for even the reality of the situation.

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They do not seem to matter to people who would normally care about facts, truth, and nuance. They do not seem to matter to the tabloid media gleefully reporting on every aspect of this case. They do not seem to matter to the TikTok creators who seize every chance to parody

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The facts do not seem to matter to any of the people who have gleefully latched on to the image of Heard as a manipulative villain, as if she split her own lip, punched her own face, and pulled out clumps of her own hair.

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This trial, which amounts to a simple yes/no question over whether Heard had the right to call herself a victim of domestic abuse in a single sentence from that 2018 opinion piece, has somehow united far-right misogynists with middle-of-the-road liberals and geeky progressive fandom acolytes of Depp.

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People who have spent the last decade hashtagging #believewomen, fighting online harassment campaigns, and, especially, resisting white male supremacy have, over the course of this trial, crawled into bed with the vilest kinds of internet refuse


https://www.vox.com/culture/23131538/johnny-depp-amber-heard-tiktok-snl-extremism?fbclid=IwAR3vK1pHSMaxmgMEfbAWZ5VP6v73rWW gaREjfF7lLXKRlCbAZkE69YXlP54

Where are the usual "champions of morality" on this? Conspicuously ****ing absent. Playing right into the toxic culture that's rapidly sweeping internet culture and will, inevitably, spill over into the mainstream narrative soon enough, as it's designed to.

Here's the entire closing paragraphs. Honestly people should read & think about them.

There’s no coming back from this. The actual trial verdict is all but irrelevant now. It’s not just that Amber Heard will forever be an imperfect accuser whose own volatile history was used to help destroy a revelatory movement in Me Too. It’s that there will be other Amber Heards, and many of them will be marginalized, with far fewer resources to withstand this onslaught of hate.

It’s not a coincidence that this spectacle is playing out against a backdrop of perpetually escalating racist violence and the rapid erosion of decades of human rights for women, queer, and trans people. The Depp-Heard trial has just trained millions of people to discard their own empathy, their own rational judgment, in exchange for the gleeful mockery, rejection, and belittlement of a woman making herself vulnerable in public. If you don’t think that training will be weaponized against vulnerable targets, you haven’t been paying attention.

[ThomasC]

Camille is astounding to watch. Ridiculously good at her job.

I can't quite believe that Amber hasn't donated the 7 million to the two charities she said she would from the 7 million divorce pay out.

Disgusting human being who seems to have been after his money.

She has perjured herself as she said during the UK court case that she had donated 7 million to charity. She also said on US TV programme she had donated 7 million.

She hasn't donated a single penny to this day!!! Her excuse, she couldn't because Johnny was sueing her. She received the 7 million and Johnny didn't sue until 13 months later and she just sat on that money.

Her current excuse, she said she has pledged the money and that pledging the money and donating the money are the same thing.

Un****ing believable. Do not believe a word that comes out her filthy, disgusting mouth.

[bots]

Camille is astounding to watch. Ridiculously good at her job.

I can't quite believe that Amber hasn't donated the 7 million to the two charities she said she would from the 7 million divorce pay out.

Disgusting human being who seems to have been after his money.

She has perjured herself as she said during the UK court case that she had donated 7 million to charity. She also said on US TV programme she had donated 7 million.

She hasn't donated a single penny to this day!!! Her excuse, she couldn't because Johnny was sueing her. She received the 7 million and Johnny didn't sue until 13 months later and she just sat on that money.

Her current excuse, she said she has pledged the money and that pledging the money and donating the money are the same thing.

Un****ing believable. Do not believe a word that comes out her filthy, disgusting mouth.

have you read what you have just written? The hate you project toward someone you don't know is insane. You have no idea what their financial arrangements were or the timing of any payments, and yet you are happy to spout hate toward her. Seriously, it's not normal

[Niamh.]

have you read what you have just written? The hate you project toward someone you don't know is insane. You have no idea what their financial arrangements were or the timing of any payments, and yet you are happy to spout hate toward her. Seriously, it's not normalIt's actually disturbing reading a lot of these opinions, online in general. What stands out to me as well is along with articles that are posted the pictures they choose to post of AH and JD

[Zizu]

Camille is astounding to watch. Ridiculously good at her job.

I can't quite believe that Amber hasn't donated the 7 million to the two charities she said she would from the 7 million divorce pay out.

Disgusting human being who seems to have been after his money.

She has perjured herself as she said during the UK court case that she had donated 7 million to charity. She also said on US TV programme she had donated 7 million.

She hasn't donated a single penny to this day!!! Her excuse, she couldn't because Johnny was sueing her. She received the 7 million and Johnny didn't sue until 13 months later and she just sat on that money.

Her current excuse, she said she has pledged the money and that pledging the money and donating the money are the same thing.

Un****ing believable. Do not believe a word that comes out her filthy, disgusting mouth.


The fact that she hasn’t made that donation as promised just emphasises that her word or take on events simply cannot be trusted


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[ThomasC]

have you read what you have just written? The hate you project toward someone you don't know is insane. You have no idea what their financial arrangements were or the timing of any payments, and yet you are happy to spout hate toward her. Seriously, it's not normal

Yes I have and I stand by what I have said.

Have you watched any of the trial?

That was the financial agreement! Where video is shown on two occasions where she says she has donated the money, but then says she has pledged it and says she hasn't donated it yet even though she lied about that.

Facts are facts from her own mouth! I've not just made it up, I've watched it and the evidence.

I have called her disgusting and filthy because of what has come out of her own mouth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wWOdSQsMcOA

Sorry if it offends you that I find someone who would be so manipulative and lie about such things disgusting

And I don't hate her, I don't know her,I hate what she has done

There were no timings of payments as she hasn't made any. There were timings of when the divorce money was paid and she was paid the full 7millon.

[Beso]

Yes I have and I stand by what I have said.

Have you watched any of the trial?

That was the financial agreement! Where video is shown on two occasions where she says she has donated the money, but then says she has pledged it and says she hasn't donated it yet even though she lied about that.

Facts are facts from her own mouth! I've not just made it up, I've watched it and the evidence.

I have called her disgusting and filthy because of what has come out of her own mouth.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wWOdSQsMcOA

Sorry if it offends you that I find someone who would be so manipulative and lie about such things disgusting



The true facts are..she calls pledged and donated the same thing..the court cant dispute that, they would have to prove she didnt..so we can only take her word for that..so it has to be believed as there is no evidence to refute it.

[Beso]

Still think this would be different if jim davidson was the male.

[ThomasC]

The true facts are..she calls pledged and donated the same thing..the court cant dispute that, they would have to prove she didnt..so we can only take her word for that..so it has to be believed as there is no evidence to refute it.

Right so I am going to pledge to pay all my bills, but I'm not actually going to pay them. Funny how on two occasions she has said she 'donated' the money and yet neither of the charities have seen a penny.

The court can dispute it, they're two words that have two completely different meanings.

[user104658]

What she has or hasn’t donated or pledges to anyone has literally zero bearing on this court case. Camille sure is “outstanding”… at continuing a massive smear campaign.

[ThomasC]

The true facts are..she calls pledged and donated the same thing..the court cant dispute that, they would have to prove she didnt..so we can only take her word for that..so it has to be believed as there is no evidence to refute it.

They've proved it already. She said herself that still to this day she has not donated any money to the two charities.

The charities also gave evidence or someone along those lines who also confirmed this and said the only money received was from Elon Musk on behalf of Amber Heard (bf at the time), but that none of amber's divorce money as gone to the charities.

So why say on the UK court case and on TV that she had donated 7 million to charity unless it was to make herself look good.

She's lost any shred of credibility she did have.

[Zizu]

What she has or hasn’t donated or pledges to anyone has literally zero bearing on this court case. Camille sure is “outstanding”… at continuing a massive smear campaign.


We it does have a bearing on the matter as on my humble opinion - as if she can’t be trusted on such a massive , massive thing like that donation then she wouldn’t think twice about lying or bending the truth


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[ThomasC]

She had 13 months with that money before Johnny sued her.

Her reason for not donating was because she couldn't because he was sueing her.

I smell so much bull**** it's unreal lol.

[ThomasC]

The fact that she hasn’t made that donation as promised just emphasises that her word or take on events simply cannot be trusted


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Yeah it doesn't do her any favours at all.

I don't understand her reasoning other than wanting to look good and wanting the money.

She said she didn't want anything off Johnny. Really!!!?:joker:

Facts are facts.

The abuse is different, it's his word against hers, but there's more holes in her story of events than a sieve.

All the pictures she took which conveniently didn't show herself on most. The pictures of her at events following alleged abuse with not a mark to show (yeah they were covered with makeup apparently), no medical reports. I think there might have been one, but the Dr noted no injuries after she went to see the Dr as she thought she might have concussion following alleged abuse. All the people who saw Amber and didn't notice any marks. There was one where had a bust lip and every time she opened her mouth it would bleed, but there's picture stills of her on the late late show with her mouth wide open and no sign of any bust lip.

Audio recordings I've listening to as well are consistent with her diagnosis of histrionic personality disorder and BPD. She sounded so manic and desperate to lose Johnny. Him pleading with her to leave him alone....then there's all the texts she sent him, one after another as he wouldn't respond.

I'm viewing it all from an objective standpoint too and making an opinion based on what I've seen from the trial. I didn't even know who Amber Heard was before this trial and I've never been a fan of Johnny Depp either

[Vanessa]

She had 13 months with that money before Johnny sued her.

Her reason for not donating was because she couldn't because he was sueing her.

I smell so much bull**** it's unreal lol.

She wanted to keep the money.
Pledge and donate according to her is the same thing :conf:

[ThomasC]

She wanted to keep the money.
Pledge and donate according to her is the same thing :conf:

Yep, but wasn't backwards in coming forwards on the two evidenced clips of her saying she had 'donated' 7 million.

Good god, I didn't know I could actually pledge all my money. Why have I wasted all my money these 31 years :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Yep, but wasn't backwards in coming forwards on the two evidenced clips of her saying she had 'donated' 7 million.

Good god, I didn't know I could actually pledge all my money. Why have I wasted all my money these 31 years :laugh:

I'm going to pledge my rent. See what my landlord says :joker:

[GoldHeart]

I'm going to pledge my rent. See what my landlord says :joker:

Yeah just say " I pledge thee" but never pay lol. Insane how Heard is classing both 'pledge' & 'donate' as the same thing.

[Niamh.]

I'm going to pledge my rent. See what my landlord says :joker:Well you're not going to donate your rent either, are you?

[GoldHeart]

Whether people think the charity is relevant or not , AH loses yet more credibility as she can never be honest and she's not reliable. Why did she lie about donating the money?!. Why not tell the truth and say something like " I haven't donated it yet ". But she kept repeating 'pledge' and ' donate ' , like they're identical.

And she had the nerve to blame JD aswell for suing her. Like that's delayed her charity plans, when she's had over a year to donate the money. But She never wanted to , because she wanted the money for herself, that is so obvious.

[ThomasC]

Well you're not going to donate your rent either, are you?

No, you'd just pledge it meaning you'll pay it later but then never pay it.

Seems to have worked for Amber so far. :joker:

Then you'll just act dumb and say you paid your rent, but then when the landlord questions you, you back track and say you pledged, but still don't pay. :joker:

[Niamh.]

No, you'd just pledge it meaning you'll pay it later but then never pay it.



Seems to have worked for Amber so far. :joker:



Then you'll just act dumb and say you paid your rent, but then when the landlord questions you, you back track and say you pledged, but still don't pay. :joker:No you pay your rent or you get evicted. You're not paying your landlord out if the goodness of your heart [emoji28]

[bots]

i just find this thread incredulous tbh. How people can attack the character of a woman relentlessly, who has clearly suffered is beyond me. I bet not one of you has experienced abuse in your own lives, if you had, you would have a different view, i'm sure

[Niamh.]

i just find this thread incredulous tbh. How people can attack the character of a woman relentlessly, who has clearly suffered is beyond me. I bet not one of you has experienced abuse in your own lives, if you had, you would have a different view, i'm sureIt's disgusting, I'm not even a "fan" of AH, this hatchet job on her is out of control though. I hope it doesn't turn out like a Caroline Flack situation actually

[Vanessa]

Amber is the abuser. She also abused her sister Whitney.
Her former friend Jennifer is going to testify about this on Monday.
She said Whitney was lying to cover for her sister.
According to her Amber nearly pushed Whitney done the stairs.
And Whitney was trying to stop Amber from attacking Johnny.

[Vanessa]

That doesn't mean Johnny is a saint.
They have had some very heated arguments.
But she admitted on tape to hitting Johnny.
I was hitting you, I wasn't punching you? Her own words.

[bots]

Amber is the abuser. She also abused her sister Whitney.
Her former friend Jennifer is going to testify about this on Monday.
She said Whitney was lying to cover for her sister.
According to her Amber nearly pushed Whitney done the stairs.
And Whitney was trying to stop Amber from attacking Johnny.

do you really think its ok to relentlessly attack a woman on this scale? and someone who is clearly suffering emotionally. The terrorist girl who was deported from the uk, didn't get anything remotely close to this in vitriol and she was a blinking terrorist that supported people who were actually murdering people

[Liam-]

The lengths a man has to go to to prove he was abused, against the word of a woman is honestly so sad, even in the face of all the evidence provided, he’s still not considered a victim of abuse by some because of his gender, it’s horrific, the ‘believe all women’ crew really has a lot to answer for

[Vanessa]

do you really think its ok to relentlessly attack a woman on this scale? and someone who is clearly suffering emotionally. The terrorist girl who was deported from the uk, didn't get anything remotely close to this in vitriol and she was a blinking terrorist that supported people who were actually murdering people

I believe she's violent and has been abusing not only Johnny, but her sister and her ex wife.
Some of her former friends also said she hit them.

[Vanessa]

The lengths a man has to go to to prove he was abused, against the word of a woman is honestly so sad, even in the face of all the evidence provided, he’s still not considered a victim of abuse by some because of his gender, it’s horrific, the ‘believe all women’ crew really has a lot to answer for

Also, someone is trying to stop Jennifer from testifying.
Her testimony could get Anbwr and Whitney done for perjury.

[Vanessa]

The lengths a man has to go to to prove he was abused, against the word of a woman is honestly so sad, even in the face of all the evidence provided, he’s still not considered a victim of abuse by some because of his gender, it’s horrific, the ‘believe all women’ crew really has a lot to answer for

I agree. Men can also get abused.
And just because Amber is a woman doesn't mean she can't be an abuser. The evidence says that's exactly what she is.
I've seen pictures of Johnny and Amber when HE is the one with the black eyes, not her .

[Vanessa]

She's been caught lying too many times.
People who are genuine do not lie.
Her story keeps changing, she keeps adding things that weren't in the original testimony.
Doesn't make any sense!

[Kate!]

She's got serious mental health problems though. I'd sectionher and put her on medication. But she needs to want to help herself in the long run. Counselling and therapy alone may not be enough.

[Vanessa]

She's got serious mental health problems though. I'd sectionher and put her on medication. But she needs to want to help herself in the long run. Counselling and therapy alone may not be enough.

She's surrounded by enablers. People who always cover for her.
One day her anger is going to get her in serious trouble.
And I won't feel sorry for her at all. Because she keeps hurting people, including her own sister

[Kate!]

I don't like her much either Ness but there's something seriously amiss with her. I see red flags. Someone mentioned Caroline Flack. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

[Kate!]

I think she should be in an institution

[Kate!]

do you really think its ok to relentlessly attack a woman on this scale? and someone who is clearly suffering emotionally. The terrorist girl who was deported from the uk, didn't get anything remotely close to this in vitriol and she was a blinking terrorist that supported people who were actually murdering people

Good post

[Vanessa]

I don't like her much either Ness but there's something seriously amiss with her. I see red flags. Someone mentioned Caroline Flack. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

She needs some serious help.

[user104658]

The lengths a man has to go to to prove he was abused, against the word of a woman is honestly so sad, even in the face of all the evidence provided, he’s still not considered a victim of abuse by some because of his gender, it’s horrific, the ‘believe all women’ crew really has a lot to answer for

The court case is not about Depp proving he was abused. What are people finding so difficult about this?

[user104658]

i just find this thread incredulous tbh. How people can attack the character of a woman relentlessly, who has clearly suffered is beyond me. I bet not one of you has experienced abuse in your own lives, if you had, you would have a different view, i'm sure

Not just relentlessly but gleefully. Pitchforks are properly out - it's honestly chilling. And from some people who consider themselves to be "allies" etc. happily lapping up the incel rhetoric that's been proven to be being spread by bots across social media.

[Vanessa]

Lying under oath is perjury
It's a very serious crime.
She's already under investigation here in the UK and in Australia.

[ThomasC]

i just find this thread incredulous tbh. How people can attack the character of a woman relentlessly, who has clearly suffered is beyond me. I bet not one of you has experienced abuse in your own lives, if you had, you would have a different view, i'm sure

Well you're speaking for most people seeing as most think she is the abuser and liar. Clearly suffered? Nothing clear about it.

I have read lots of comments on YouTube on people who have been abused and are still in favour of Depp.

To say that if you have been abused would make you have a different view is ridiculous. If anything it would probably make you realise even more who the actual abuser is.

[Vanessa]

Tell the world, Johnny. Tell the world that you're a victim of DV and see how many believe you.
These are her words.

[Vanessa]

Well you're speaking for most people seeing as most think she is the abuser and liar. Clearly suffered? Nothing clear about it.

I have read lots of comments on YouTube on people who have been abused and are still in favour of Depp.

To say that if you have been abused would make you have a different view is ridiculous. If anything it would probably make you realise even more who the actual abuser is.

What about the people she hurt? Don't they matter?
The sister she has abused her whole life, her ex wife, and god know how many more there are.

[ThomasC]

do you really think its ok to relentlessly attack a woman on this scale? and someone who is clearly suffering emotionally. The terrorist girl who was deported from the uk, didn't get anything remotely close to this in vitriol and she was a blinking terrorist that supported people who were actually murdering people

Are you talking about on here? Because from what I saw of the 'terrorist girl' she got a LOT of hate so I don't think that's true.

Relentlessly attack a woman on this scale? People have opinions and don't happen to believe most of what she is saying. Why is this? Because of the evidence being brought forward in court.

I haven't read any death threats, personal insults about her looks, but rather observations and opinions on her behaviour! Not just talking about on here because that would be a miniscule example.

You say a 'woman'. What does sex have to do with it? It's OK for people to abuse and assume most men are the abusers, right?

I think you have to ask yourself why 97.8% of people do not believe Amber Heard's version of events unless most people are a bad judge or character or just refuse to believe the evidence presented.

[ThomasC]

Tell the world, Johnny. Tell the world that you're a victim of DV and see how many believe you.
These are her words.

I listened to that audio clip along with others where she emotionally abused him.

He went to 5 different bathrooms to try and escape her. She kept coming for him.

[Vanessa]

I listened to that audio clip along with others where she emotionally abused him.



He went to 5 different bathrooms to try and escape her. She kept coming for him.And he appears to have a black eye in his honeymoon pictures [emoji848]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220521/29f2fae5761d1f03e230b77eddcd46f2.jpg

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[user104658]

I think you have to ask yourself why 97.8% of people do not believe Amber Heard's version of events unless most people are a bad judge or character or just refuse to believe the evidence presented.

Social media/pop culture smear campaign on an unprecedented scale. Your stats aren’t even correct, there’s been a slow but clear shift in the number of people who can see that what’s going on here is not right in any way, that’s the one glimmer of light in this dark MRA neckbeard tunnel. You believe that 98% of people are team Depp because there’s a literal army of social media bots spamming that message.

Again it’s not about believing that Amber Heards version of events is 100% gospel truth the question is, is it libellous for her to have described herself as having been in an abusive relationship with Johnny Depp. From the kitchen video alone, it isn’t.

How can any woman after this ever realistically talk about having suffered abuse? They cannot. They’ve seen the consequences. The consequences are not in the courtroom, they’re the public lynchmobs and smear campaigns. MeToo is dead and women will have no choice but to go back to keeping quiet, or suffer the consequences. Well done guys, you did it!

And again where are the crusaders who usually like to be out with their placards proclaiming themselves the heroes of history? Nowhere to be seen. Absolute ****ing joke.

[user104658]

What about the people she hurt? Don't they matter?
The sister she has abused her whole life, her ex wife, and god know how many more there are.


Her sister who backs her up? The ex wife who says their fight was taken out of context and supports her?

Of course they’re just “lying” too because they’re not saying what you want to hear, and have not backed up the social media hearsay that you would rather believe.

[Vanessa]

Her sister who backs her up? The ex wife who says their fight was taken out of context and supports her?

Of course they’re just “lying” too because they’re not saying what you want to hear, and have not backed up the social media hearsay that you would rather believe.

We will see who is lying when Jennifer testifies on Monday.

[hijaxers]

Her sister who backs her up? The ex wife who says their fight was taken out of context and supports her?

Of course they’re just “lying” too because they’re not saying what you want to hear, and have not backed up the social media hearsay that you would rather believe.

OMG you just don't give up do you~ you are on the wrong side here ,but its like shovelling concrete with you. So you'd be hapy if your parner took a massive dump in your bed then ?? Secretly filmed you etc.....

[Vanessa]

Jennifer Howell deposition makes for very interesting reading.
It completely contradicts Amber and Whitney testimony. They could be done for perjury.

[user104658]

OMG you just don't give up do you~ you are on the wrong side here ,but its like shovelling concrete with you. So you'd be hapy if your parner took a massive dump in your bed then ?? Secretly filmed you etc.....


I’m on the wrong side because I don’t agree with redpillers, incels, mens rights activists and the alt right?

You’re just quoting MORE unsubstantiated social media bull**** as though it’s fact. There’s absolutely zero evidence she crapped in the bed other than his say so. Many abuse victims film their abuser - especially if the abuser does it while drunk or on drugs - to show others and them what they can be like. Not unusual at all.

I don’t think Amber Heard is perfect I’m just not delusional or naive enough to be duped into believing that Johnny Depp didn’t get drunk and abusive at times during their relationship. He quite clearly, and evidently, did.

This whole trial has been hijacked by Mens Rights Activists and misogynists in general to destroy the ability of women to talk about abuse without fear of “crowd based” repercussions.

You are part of that crowd. The rope is in your hands. The pitchfork is in your hands. You feel righteous in this; you’re not, you’re a tool of something sinister and disgusting that’s going to set back women (and ultimately any other group that isn’t white men) decades if not permanently.

No I won’t stop talking about it.

And as for being on the wrong side? I’m a straight cis white bloke. If I chose to lean into this toxic MRA “burn the witch” mentality it would benefit ME far more than it will ever benefit any of you. The people behind this crap want me to be on the top of the pile in life, not you.

I just wouldn’t be able to sleep well at night.

[Vanessa]

Actions have consequences. You lie under oath, you get done for perjury.

[GoldHeart]

OMG you just don't give up do you~ you are on the wrong side here ,but its like shovelling concrete with you. So you'd be hapy if your parner took a massive dump in your bed then ?? Secretly filmed you etc.....

Can you imagine the uproar if Depp was the one who did that to the bed, he'd probably be called a 'dirty tramp' and he'd probably get sectioned.

The crazy thing is , even if a bloke was slapping me about and abusing me, i still WOULD NEVER do that of all things to the bed. That isn't even revenge , it's just disgusting & vile and makes her look mentally unstable , which we now know she is.

And when he was getting withdrawal symptoms , when he was going through detox. She cruelly refused to give him his medication.
He kept begging her , and she kept refusing him . This was her husband and he was in pain, and she would NOT help him.

He poured scolding water over his body to try and bring his body temperature and nerves back to a stable level .

[GoldHeart]

I’m on the wrong side because I don’t agree with redpillers, incels, mens rights activists and the alt right?

You’re just quoting MORE unsubstantiated social media bull**** as though it’s fact. There’s absolutely zero evidence she crapped in the bed other than his say so. Many abuse victims film their abuser - especially if the abuser does it while drunk or on drugs - to show others and them what they can be like. Not unusual at all.

I don’t think Amber Heard is perfect I’m just not delusional or naive enough to be duped into believing that Johnny Depp didn’t get drunk and abusive at times during their relationship. He quite clearly, and evidently, did.

This whole trial has been hijacked by Mens Rights Activists and misogynists in general to destroy the ability of women to talk about abuse without fear of “crowd based” repercussions.

You are part of that crowd. The rope is in your hands. The pitchfork is in your hands. You feel righteous in this; you’re not, you’re a tool of something sinister and disgusting that’s going to set back women (and ultimately any other group that isn’t white men) decades if not permanently.

No I won’t stop talking about it.

And as for being on the wrong side? I’m a straight cis white bloke. If I chose to lean into this toxic MRA “burn the witch” mentality it would benefit ME far more than it will ever benefit any of you. The people behind this crap want me to be on the top of the pile in life, not you.

I just wouldn’t be able to sleep well at night.


Why do you keep ignoring the fact that HEARD & HER SISTER & FRIENDS ALL TOOK DRUGS AND ALCOHOL. It was NOT just JD who was off his face on substances. They were all doing it , the sister admitted herself that she was 'rarely sober' . Yet JD is being called this 'violent druggie' . It's funny how they didn't mind staying at his pent houses though , and eating and drinking his food etc and travelling with him all RENT FREE .

As for filming people when they're high or drunk , JD also filmed audio's of Her as she would deny she said things in arguments. So he had to record her for evidence. So why are you making out it was only Heard that recorded stuff? . She sounded like a typical narcissistic gaslighter, she clearly thought he was some 'senile old druggie drunk' ... who she could convince was losing his mind.

If someone is so manipulative to the point where they make you feel guilty for seeing your own daughter, then there's some serious issues there.

He tried to escape her , he mentions in the audio how he wants to see his daughter, but she's there stopping him & emotionally blackmailing him by crying . But of course her behaviour is normal then ??!?:bored: :facepalm:

[Niamh.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10833757/Johnny-Depps-former-agent-testifies-actors-unprofessional-behavior.html?ito=social-facebook

[GoldHeart]

Just to remind people, it's a crime to lie under oath.
PERJURY is a real thing :idc: .

[Vanessa]

Just to remind people, it's a crime to lie under oath.
PERJURY is a real thing :idc: .

I really can't wait for tomorrow. Jennifer is going to testify and she has proof that Whitney and Amber lied under oath.

[user104658]

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[user104658]

I really can't wait for tomorrow. Jennifer is going to testify and she has proof that Whitney and Amber lied under oath.


Actions have consequences. You lie under oath, you get done for perjury.



Also, someone is trying to stop Jennifer from testifying.

Her testimony could get Anbwr and Whitney done for perjury.



Lying under oath is perjury

It's a very serious crime.

.



Jennifer Howell deposition makes for very interesting reading.

It completely contradicts Amber and Whitney testimony. They could be done for perjury.



Just to remind people, it's a crime to lie under oath.

PERJURY is a real thing :idc: .


Are you guys actually spambots? Come on, own up…

[bots]

he said saying the same thing twice :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Are you guys actually spambots? Come on, own up…

You duplicated your own post ,so maybe you're the spambot .

And I didn't realise stating facts about the law was 'spam bot ish ' ....But ok .

[user104658]

You duplicated your own post ,so maybe you're the spambot .

And I didn't realise stating facts about the law was 'spam bot ish ' ....But ok .

I'm sure you realise I'm talking about the same thing being repeated over and over, especially as I quoted Vanessa saying the same thing 4 times in the space of a day (the "perjury" stuff is spammed all over social media, too) but by all means continue to play dumb.

Those were just the examples that came up from scrolling back a short while - this "perjury!!" post has been repeated literally dozens of times.

[Niamh.]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/22/metoo-is-over-if-we-dont-listen-to-imperfect-victims-like-amber-heard?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Vanessa]

Johnny is also back on the stand tomorrow. Probably for Amber counter claim.
Johnny's side have about 18 hours left on their case.
Amber side only 8. Why are they wasting it ? :joker:

[michael21]

Johnny is also back on the stand tomorrow. Probably for Amber counter claim.
Johnny's side have about 18 hours left on their case.
Amber side only 8. Why are they wasting it ? :joker:

Do your post on sj thread say strong your an amazing person :hug:

[Beso]

Kate moss lying through someone elses backteeth.

[Vanessa]

Kate Moss just testified. And another lie by Amber is exposed.
Elaine is NOT cross examining. She knows she's telling the truth. This is a big win for Johnny.

[Niamh.]

Kate Moss just testified. And another lie by Amber is exposed.
Elaine is NOT cross examining. She knows she's telling the truth. This is a big win for Johnny.

Didn't Amber say she heard a rumour that Johnny pushed Kate down the stairs though? So how does Kate's testimony prove that Amber didn't hear that rumour? She did fall down the stairs when she was with Johnny, it's not inconceivable to think that there might have been a rumour that Johnny pushed her, don't you think?

[user104658]

Didn't Amber say she heard a rumour that Johnny pushed Kate down the stairs though? So how does Kate's testimony prove that Amber didn't hear that rumour? She did fall down the stairs when she was with Johnny, it's not inconceivable to think that there might have been a rumour that Johnny pushed her, don't you think?

EVERYONE heard that rumour.

[Vanessa]

Didn't Amber say she heard a rumour that Johnny pushed Kate down the stairs though? So how does Kate's testimony prove that Amber didn't hear that rumour? She did fall down the stairs when she was with Johnny, it's not inconceivable to think that there might have been a rumour that Johnny pushed her, don't you think?

Ans Kate Moss just said that Johnny helped her and got her medical attention.
Amber and her friends also lied when they said Johnny wrecked a hotel room.
The owner testified that it wasn't true, only a light switch was broken.

[Niamh.]

Ans Kate Moss just said that Johnny helped her and got her medical attention.
Amber and her friends also lied when they said Johnny wrecked a hotel room.
The owner testified that it wasn't true, only a light switch was broken.

That didn't answer what I asked you. Amber said she heard a rumour that Johnny pushed Kate down the stairs. How does Kate saying he didn't push her down the stairs prove that Amber didn't hear a rumour that he did?

[Vanessa]

The same hotel owner said Amber was the was yelling at Johnny. And Johnny was cowering from her.
He does not know Johnny or works for him. He isn't a fan. He's just a regular guy, he has no reason to lie.

[user104658]

And Kate Moss just said that Johnny helped her and got her medical attention.
Amber and her friends also lied when they said Johnny wrecked a hotel room.
The owner testified that it wasn't true, only a light switch was broken.

:umm2: if she indeed fell then of course he got her help, no one is trying to argue that Johnny Depp is a psychopath who would just leave injured people hurt in accidents lying on the ground :think:

[Vanessa]

That didn't answer what I asked you. Amber said she heard a rumour that Johnny pushed Kate down the stairs. How does Kate saying he didn't push her down the stairs prove that Amber didn't hear a rumour that he did?

Amber said that she hit Johnny, because she was afraid he would push her sister down the stairs. Like he did to Kate Moss. She said this in her testimony.

[Vanessa]

Her sister Whitney said pretty much the same thing.
Under oath. They both lied.
Kate Moss isn't lying, otherwise they would have cross examined her. And they didn't.

[Niamh.]

Amber said that she hit Johnny, because she was afraid he would push her sister down the stairs. Like he did to Kate Moss. She said this in her testimony.

She said all she could think of was Kate Moss and the stairs. That's all she said at that point, the other time she mentioned it she said she'd heard a rumour from a couple of people that Johnny had pushed Kate Moss down the stairs. I mean clearly she wasn't there the time Kate Moss fell down the stairs so she's obviously only going by something someone had told her about the incident anyway

[Niamh.]

Her sister Whitney said pretty much the same thing.
Under oath. They both lied.
Kate Moss isn't lying, otherwise they would have cross examined her. And they didn't.

Kate Moss testifying that JD didn't push her down the stairs doesn't prove that they were lying though? How does it? Neither of them claimed to have witnessed it happening (were they even born back then? :eyes: )

[Vanessa]

She said all she could think of was Kate Moss and the stairs. That's all she said at that point, the other time she mentioned it she said she'd heard a rumour from a couple of people that Johnny had pushed Kate Moss down the stairs. I mean clearly she wasn't there the time Kate Moss fell down the stairs so she's obviously only going by something someone had told her about the incident anyway

She shouldn't have accepted hearsay as facts.
I don't think she ever expected Kate Moss to testify.

[Vanessa]

Kate Moss testifying that JD didn't push her down the stairs doesn't prove that they were lying though? How does it? Neither of them claimed to have witnessed it happening (were they even born back then? :eyes: )

It doesn't look good. And the jury have Jennifer testimony.
She said that Amber was the one who almost pushed Whitney down the starts. It's been admitted as evidence.

[Niamh.]

She shouldn't have accepted hearsay as facts.
I don't think she ever expected Kate Moss to testify.

She didn't say Johnny definitely pushed Kate down the stairs though, she said she heard a rumour that he did which then came into her head

[Niamh.]

Also, it's a pity Kate didn't come forward before now and say he didn't do that. This rumour has been milling around for such a long time she could have put an end to it ages ago

[Vanessa]

She didn't say Johnny definitely pushed Kate down the stairs though, she said she heard a rumour that he did which then came into her head
We will have to agree to disagree on this.

[Niamh.]

We will have to agree to disagree on this.

I mean if you want but that's actually what she said, I've seen the videos :laugh:

[Vanessa]

I mean if you want but that's actually what she said, I've seen the videos :laugh:

I wouldn't believe a rumour without checking it was true.
That's just me.

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't believe a rumour without checking it was true.
That's just me.

I mean you might if you were married to drug addicted alcoholic who has violent outbursts :shrug:

[Vanessa]

I mean you might if you were married to drug addicted alcoholic who has violent outbursts :shrug:

Amber was also drinking and doing drugs.
Something her ex nurse testified about it.
And admitted on tape that she hit Johnny.
Women can be abusive.

[Niamh.]

Amber was also drinking and doing drugs.
Something her ex nurse testified about it.
And admitted on tape that she hit Johnny.
Women can be abusive.

Yep agree with all that. I believe they're both toxic and were both abusive at various points, never said otherwise

[Vanessa]

I was hitting you. I wasn't punching you. God Johnny, you're such a baby!
Tell the world Johnny. Tell the world. I Johnny Depp am an abuse victim. And see how many people believe you.

[Niamh.]

"Let's drown her before we burn her!!! I will ******* her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she's dead."

“Did I read that right?” lawyer Rottenborn asked Depp in the court, to which he responded, “You certainly did." When Rottenborn said, “You wrote that about the woman who would later become your wife," Depp replied, “Yes.”

[Vanessa]

"Let's drown her before we burn her!!! I will ******* her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she's dead."

“Did I read that right?” lawyer Rottenborn asked Depp in the court, to which he responded, “You certainly did." When Rottenborn said, “You wrote that about the woman who would later become your wife," Depp replied, “Yes.”

He apologized for that.
I never said Johnny was a saint.
All I'm saying is Amber isn't as innocent as she's saying.
She admitted on tape that she hit him.

[Niamh.]

He apologized for that.
I never said Johnny was a saint.
All I'm saying is Amber isn't as innocent as she's saying.
She admitted on tape that she hit him.

I'm not saying she's innocent
Also, he admitted to head butting her

[Vanessa]

I'm not saying she's innocent
Also, he admitted to head butting her

That was to stop her punching him.

[Niamh.]

That was to stop her punching him.

So he says.

He's hardly going to say yeah I head butted her while suing her for defamation, is he?

[AnnieK]

Do you honestly think Vanessa that Johnny never laid a finger on Amber? Its a serious question, I'm not trying to be funny.

Because if you answer yes, then sadly no matter what Amber is lying about really doesn't matter. She said he hit her, if he ever laid hands on her, even just once, he is guilty of doing what she has alleged. It doesn't matter what she did to him as that is not the point of this trial - she alleges he hit her, he said he didn't. The rest is really irrelevant.

Its just been one big media circus in my opinion and no winners - they have both been proven to be destructive addicts. I hope whatever the outcome they both move on from it and get on with their lives in a more healthy way

[AnnieK]

Do you honestly think Vanessa that Johnny never laid a finger on Amber? Its a serious question, I'm not trying to be funny.

Because if you answer yes, then sadly no matter what Amber is lying about really doesn't matter. She said he hit her, if he ever laid hands on her, even just once, he is guilty of doing what she has alleged. It doesn't matter what she did to him as that is not the point of this trial - she alleges he hit her, he said he didn't. The rest is really irrelevant.

Its just been one big media circus in my opinion and no winners - they have both been proven to be destructive addicts. I hope whatever the outcome they both move on from it and get on with their lives in a more healthy way

[Liam-]

I'm not saying she's innocent
Also, he admitted to head butting her

Incorrect, he testified that their heads connected in the process of her attacking him and him trying to get her off of him

[Vanessa]

Do you honestly think Vanessa that Johnny never laid a finger on Amber? Its a serious question, I'm not trying to be funny.

Because if you answer yes, then sadly no matter what Amber is lying about really doesn't matter. She said he hit her, if he ever laid hands on her, even just once, he is guilty of doing what she has alleged. It doesn't matter what she did to him as that is not the point of this trial - she alleges he hit her, he said he didn't. The rest is really irrelevant.

Its just been one big media circus in my opinion and no winners - they have both been proven to be destructive addicts. I hope whatever the outcome they both move on from it and get on with their lives in a more healthy way
I don't think he did.
She hit him and that was on tape.

[Vanessa]

Incorrect, he testified that their heads connected in the process of her attacking him and him trying to get her off of him

He was trying to get away and she was following him.
Yes, I believe she is the abusive one.

[Niamh.]

Do you honestly think Vanessa that Johnny never laid a finger on Amber? Its a serious question, I'm not trying to be funny.

Because if you answer yes, then sadly no matter what Amber is lying about really doesn't matter. She said he hit her, if he ever laid hands on her, even just once, he is guilty of doing what she has alleged. It doesn't matter what she did to him as that is not the point of this trial - she alleges he hit her, he said he didn't. The rest is really irrelevant.

Its just been one big media circus in my opinion and no winners - they have both been proven to be destructive addicts. I hope whatever the outcome they both move on from it and get on with their lives in a more healthy way

Yep. 100% especially agree with your final paragraph, the fact that it's all been televised is gross as well

[Niamh.]

He was trying to get away and she was following him.
Yes, I believe she is the abusive one.

So he says......

[Vanessa]

She's done it before. She was arrested for domestic violence against her ex wife.
And I believe Johnny's side have a witness who will come and testify about this.

[Niamh.]

She's done it before. She was arrested for domestic violence against her ex wife.
And I believe Johnny's side have a witness who will come and testify about this.

Yes we know, that isn't what the trial is about though, is it?

[Liam-]

So he says......

There’s audio of Amber complaining that whenever there’s ‘trouble’ he always walks away from her and her admitting that she followed him to bathrooms to get him to come out, it’s safe to say that was probably a common occurrence

[Vanessa]

Yes we know, that isn't what the trial is about though, is it?

If the witness is accepted that means it's somehow relevant to the case. Surely?

[Niamh.]

If the witness is accepted that means it's somehow relevant to the case. Surely?

I wouldn't think so no. There's been plenty of stuff I've seen that seem totally irrelevant

[Vanessa]

I wouldn't think so no. There's been plenty of stuff I've seen that seem totally irrelevant

I think it's very relevant. Considering Amber has tried her best to hide this. What is she hiding?

[Niamh.]

I think it's very relevant. Considering Amber has tried her best to hide this. What is she hiding?

Still nobody is denying that she was arrested for domestic violence against her ex though

[Vanessa]

Still nobody is denying that she was arrested for domestic violence against her ex though

But she didn't want Johnny to know this before they got married.

[Niamh.]

But she didn't want Johnny to know this before they got married.

ok?

[user104658]

There’s audio of Amber complaining that whenever there’s ‘trouble’ he always walks away from her and her admitting that she followed him to bathrooms to get him to come out, it’s safe to say that was probably a common occurrence


I don’t think anyone has disputed that they were in an unhealthy/codependent relationship? That’s evident in all of the audio recordings. Again it’s not really relevant (other than the fact that many codependent relationships have elements of control/abuse).

As Niamh says… it doesn’t matter if she followed him into 1000 bathrooms… it doesn’t even matter if she cut off his finger. This is not a criminal assault trial. He’s suing for libel because she said he hit her during the relationship. If she pulled out a machete and sliced off his finger and then he punched her in the face and that’s all proven… yes someone might pursue her with GBH charges… but she still wins THIS case. If he hit her, saying he hit her isn’t libel. That’s why I’m so confused about them trying so hard to prove all these mitigating circumstances. They’re not relevant.

Well I say I’m confused; I’m not actually confused. Winning the trial isn’t the point and never has been.

[Vanessa]

She still hasn't provided any evidence that he hit her.
We're supposed to take her word for it, when she's been caught lying so many times?:conf:

[GoldHeart]

EVERYONE heard that rumour.

Actually I never heard that 'rumour' .... until this whole American trial began , so no not everyone .

[Vanessa]

ok?

In her UK testimony Amber said that the DV never happened. That it was a misunderstanding.That the case was dismissed.
But the arresting officer said otherwise. They saw Amber attack her partner and they arrested her. :suspect:

[GoldHeart]

Her sister Whitney said pretty much the same thing.
Under oath. They both lied.
Kate Moss isn't lying, otherwise they would have cross examined her. And they didn't.

Did you see AH 's deposition ?, she also slipped up about the kitchen video and said that TMZ DID get the video.

She covers her face so quickly, realising she shouldn't have said that. And she's there munching on biscuits like it's no big deal,that she's talking about domestic abuse. She's entirely different to her court testimonies .

[Vanessa]

Actually I never heard that 'rumour' .... until this whole American trial began , so no not everyone .

I followed them as a couple at the time. They always looked so in love.

[Vanessa]

Did you see AH 's deposition ?, she also slipped up about the kitchen video and said that TMZ DID get the video.

She covers her face so quickly, realising she shouldn't have said that. And she's there munching on biscuits like it's no big deal,that she's talking about domestic abuse. She's entirely different to her court testimonies .
Amber and, Whitney and her friends all have different testimonies about the same incident.
How is that possible?
I'm so glad Kate Moss testified.
Now we need the arresting officer of that 2009 case.

[GoldHeart]

She said all she could think of was Kate Moss and the stairs. That's all she said at that point, the other time she mentioned it she said she'd heard a rumour from a couple of people that Johnny had pushed Kate Moss down the stairs. I mean clearly she wasn't there the time Kate Moss fell down the stairs so she's obviously only going by something someone had told her about the incident anyway


But if you've heard a "rumour" ,why would you bring it up in court without FACTS .. plus Heard also talks about things like they ACTUALLY happened,then she changes her mind when her lies don't fit the narrative or when she's put herself in a corner .

You yourself said she wasn't there, so why was she bringing Kate Moss' name into this, anyway I'm glad Moss has cleared this up now.

[Vanessa]

Someone who keeps lying does not inspire me with confidence at all.

[Niamh.]

But if you've heard a "rumour" ,why would you bring it up in court without FACTS .. plus Heard also talks about things like they ACTUALLY happened,then she changes her mind when her lies don't fit the narrative or when she's put herself in a corner .

You yourself said she wasn't there, so why was she bringing Kate Moss' name into this, anyway I'm glad Moss has cleared this up now.

Why are you asking me that question? I don't know or care why she brought it up. The only reason I commented on it was because Vanessa was claiming that Kate Moss' testimony proves that AH was lying when it actually does no such thing.

[GoldHeart]

Also, it's a pity Kate didn't come forward before now and say he didn't do that. This rumour has been milling around for such a long time she could have put an end to it ages ago

Perhaps she didn't want to get involved . She's had her issues aswell. Maybe she got tired of AH's lies and knew she had to defend JD , I know I would hate someone dragging my name into something THAT DIDN'T happen,and I would want to address & clear things up aswell.

[Beso]

Perhaps she didn't want to get involved . She's had her issues aswell. Maybe she got tired of AH's lies and knew she had to defend JD , I know I would hate someone dragging my name into something THAT DIDN'T happen,and I would want to address & clear things up aswell.

She should have thought those things about johnny depp instead of letting those rumours drag on for decades...selfish cow.

[Beso]

This latest witness had already made her mind up about heards mental state before even meeting her.

Another fan hag, wined and dined by johnny and his legal team.