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bots
11-02-2023, 10:50 PM
i've actually enjoyed the way arsenal have been playing and the game against Man U was a belter, but they do seem to have gone off the boil a little since that game, but then Man City haven't been particularly good recently, so, who knows :laugh:

Zizu
11-02-2023, 10:56 PM
i've actually enjoyed the way arsenal have been playing and the game against Man U was a belter, but they do seem to have gone off the boil a little since that game, but then Man City haven't been particularly good recently, so, who knows :laugh:


Perfect assessment of the current situation


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GiRTh
11-02-2023, 11:19 PM
There's a lot of football to be played

bots
12-02-2023, 02:10 PM
this is going to be a disaster, maguire is in the starting line up

Cherie
12-02-2023, 02:11 PM
this is going to be a disaster, maguire is in the starting line up

My son said the same :laugh:

bots
12-02-2023, 02:49 PM
he's already had a few blunders, it's only a matter of time :laugh:

bots
12-02-2023, 03:41 PM
Rashford is unstoppable

bots
12-02-2023, 04:00 PM
https://i.imgur.com/eggj60M.png

Cherie
12-02-2023, 04:15 PM
my nerves are in shred due to McGuire

bots
12-02-2023, 05:23 PM
walk in the park for city

MTVN
12-02-2023, 05:25 PM
What is this new world where bots has an avatar

Zizu
12-02-2023, 05:31 PM
my nerves are in shred due to McGuire


He did make one of his trademark ‘suicide’ passes out of defence but it went straight to him from their player - got away with that one


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Zizu
12-02-2023, 05:33 PM
What is this new world where bots has an avatar


That gave me an idea :)


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bots
12-02-2023, 05:37 PM
haaland off injured

bots
12-02-2023, 05:38 PM
What is this new world where bots has an avatar

i'm starting a new trend

MTVN
12-02-2023, 06:00 PM
That gave me an idea :)


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Mystic Mock
12-02-2023, 07:45 PM
Even I've got to say that Grealish should be heavily punished for that dive today against Aston Villa.

Honestly cheating on that kinda level needs to be removed from the game.

It makes me wonder if the Referee was taking the same stuff that Wilton Pereira Sampaio was taking.:joker:

But seriously if Grealish was not English our Media would be giving him the same treatment that Drogba received for his diving.

Zizu
12-02-2023, 08:41 PM
Crazy that Arsenal lose more points from yet another reffing/VAR error !!

The PGMOL have admitted that it was 'human error' which lead to VAR not fully investigating an offside call for Brentford's equaliser against Arsenal.


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bots
12-02-2023, 09:07 PM
dodgy decisions are part of the game and always have been

MTVN
12-02-2023, 09:14 PM
Even I've got to say that Grealish should be heavily punished for that dive today against Aston Villa.

Honestly cheating on that kinda level needs to be removed from the game.

It makes me wonder if the Referee was taking the same stuff that Wilton Pereira Sampaio was taking.:joker:

But seriously if Grealish was not English our Media would be giving him the same treatment that Drogba received for his diving.

There's a reason he's always top of the most fouled stats

GiRTh
12-02-2023, 09:51 PM
dodgy decisions are part of the game and always have beenPGMOL have twice apologised to Arsenal for poor VAR decisions this season. No other team has two apologies.

The other one was Arsenals opening goal at Old Trafford wrongly overturned by the same Lee Mason.

Yes there are dodgy decisions in football but this is more like gross incompetence. How does he forget to draw the offside lines? Has he been trained properly. You have to wonder.

Arsenal weren't quite 'at it' yesterday. Not the team of the first 19 games but full credit to Brentford, they probably had the better of the chances. Top teams grind out results even when they're not playing well. Without the intervention of Lee Mason that would have been the headline today. Its difficult to not feel aggrieved

Crimson Dynamo
12-02-2023, 09:55 PM
Arsenal..

https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/top-gear-wheels-coming-off-o-gif.2414810/

GiRTh
12-02-2023, 09:57 PM
Also, arsenal lost 13 games in the 21 to 22 seasons. I'd say, in only one of those defeats the ref played a part. It was, ironically, Man City on New years day 2022. There was a Xhaka penalty on Bernardo Silva. I say Silva was already on the way down when Xhaka grabbed his jersey. This year I'm looking at the ref in this and the Old Trafford game.

EDIT: Add Dan Burn throwing big Gabby to the ground against Newcastle. Three games so far where the ref played a part.

GiRTh
12-02-2023, 09:57 PM
Arsenal..

https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/top-gear-wheels-coming-off-o-gif.2414810/
A lot of football to be played. :thumbs:

bots
12-02-2023, 10:19 PM
i don't see the point of VAR at the moment. It destroys the flow of the game and gets too many decisions wrong. The original VAR had a small team of people looking at the footage and making decisions, these days they have one guy. They are basically doing it on the cheap. If there was a small team looking at it, there would be much less chance of error and it's not as though the premier league can't afford it

Zizu
13-02-2023, 12:46 AM
i don't see the point of VAR at the moment. It destroys the flow of the game and gets too many decisions wrong. The original VAR had a small team of people looking at the footage and making decisions, these days they have one guy. They are basically doing it on the cheap. If there was a small team looking at it, there would be much less chance of error and it's not as though the premier league can't afford it


Totally agree

They are making huge mistakes plus it was never meant to be a tool to disallow flaming goals ..


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bots
13-02-2023, 03:39 PM
i'm looking forward to the game tonight, everton can do this

Crimson Dynamo
13-02-2023, 03:48 PM
i'm looking forward to the game tonight, everton can do this

lets hope so

:fc:

Everton are 4-1 the win

that is decent

The Slim Reaper
13-02-2023, 05:28 PM
The scot, living in the south of England and supporting a club in Manchester, will be absolutely devastated.

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Zizu
13-02-2023, 07:55 PM
lets hope so

:fc:

Everton are 4-1 the win

that is decent


I’m thinking 3:3


Or 4:0 to someone


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Swan
13-02-2023, 09:35 PM
Everton have been poor, been easy for Liverpool

Niamh.
13-02-2023, 09:49 PM
lets hope so



:fc:



Everton are 4-1 the win



that is decent[emoji854]

Denver
13-02-2023, 10:12 PM
Bajcetic, remember that name

Zizu
13-02-2023, 11:09 PM
Bajcetic, remember that name


He’s a talented kid and only 18 … still some way behind Barca’s Gavi also 18 but who was putting in performances equal or better when he was just 16 .. outstanding for Barca AND Spain at that age as well


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bots
14-02-2023, 10:28 PM
the man city vs arsenal game is on prime

Zizu
15-02-2023, 05:15 PM
the man city vs arsenal game is on prime


I was soooo looking forward to this game until they just said that Partey will miss the match due to injury in the very last training session ..

Plus Haaland plays apparently


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GiRTh
15-02-2023, 06:27 PM
I was soooo looking forward to this game until they just said that Partey will miss the match due to injury in the very last training session ..

Plus Haaland plays apparently


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bots
15-02-2023, 06:34 PM
We're f**cked

i don't think so :laugh: City don't play like everton, they will give arsenal more freedom

GiRTh
15-02-2023, 06:46 PM
i don't think so :laugh: City don't play like everton, they will give arsenal more freedom
True but Partey is probably our most important player. The midfield isnt the same without him

MTVN
15-02-2023, 07:03 PM
City only playing 3 recognisable defenders :think: why Pep got rid of Cancelo is beyond me

Zizu
15-02-2023, 07:30 PM
Why drop Ben White when they have Grealish to content with ?!


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Zizu
15-02-2023, 07:39 PM
Incompetent reffing already


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Zizu
15-02-2023, 07:49 PM
Arsenal missing Partey badly


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bots
15-02-2023, 07:52 PM
it's a good game :shrug:

bots
15-02-2023, 07:55 PM
that was a very well taken goal

Zizu
15-02-2023, 07:55 PM
Why drop Ben White when they have Grealish to content with ?!


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Huge error from Ben White’s replacement
:)

Just after Nketiah missed a sitter as well


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James
15-02-2023, 07:55 PM
I thought this started at 8:00 PM.

bots
15-02-2023, 07:57 PM
I thought this started at 8:00 PM.

must be to beat the champions league starts

Zizu
15-02-2023, 07:58 PM
Bernardo has kicked Saka THREE times now !!

Not even booked

Really clever to get City’s best behaved player to kick Arsenal’s most influential player !!


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Zizu
15-02-2023, 07:59 PM
Arsenal missing easy chances ..,

No way Arsenal win this


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bots
15-02-2023, 07:59 PM
What a waste from Saka

Zizu
15-02-2023, 08:07 PM
I hate watching City’s predictable play and time wasting


Arsenal play beautiful, creative football in contrast despite missing Partey

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Zizu
15-02-2023, 08:10 PM
Keeper has to be sent off .,

Second yellow surely


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bots
15-02-2023, 08:12 PM
It's an enjoyable game

GiRTh
15-02-2023, 08:15 PM
150 million minimum for Saka. Best young player on the planet

GiRTh
15-02-2023, 08:23 PM
Three Man City players on yellow cards

bots
15-02-2023, 08:49 PM
crazy game :laugh:

Zizu
15-02-2023, 08:50 PM
So he books the Arsenal guy for the penalty but doesn’t book the City keeper for his offence ( second yellow as well )


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Zizu
15-02-2023, 08:51 PM
Three Man City players on yellow cards


Bernardo should have had 4 yellow cards !!


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Zizu
15-02-2023, 08:53 PM
Haaland deliberate elbow .. nothing given


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Zizu
15-02-2023, 08:53 PM
Haaland deliberate elbow .. nothing given


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GiRTh
15-02-2023, 08:55 PM
Bernardo should have had 4 yellow cards !!


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Crimson Dynamo
15-02-2023, 08:57 PM
Come on Arsenal

Zizu
15-02-2023, 09:09 PM
Too many missed chances and too many defensive errors from Arsenal


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Zizu
15-02-2023, 09:12 PM
This ref is either blind or corrupt


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MTVN
15-02-2023, 09:12 PM
The natural order restored, City below par but doing enough

Martinelli, Xhaka, Gabriel, Saliba all regressing to the mean and looking average. Nketiah is crap and all

GiRTh
15-02-2023, 09:13 PM
The natural order restored, City below par but doing enough

Martinelli, Xhaka, Gabriel, Saliba all regressing to the mean and looking average. Nketiah is crap and all:laugh::laugh:

bots
15-02-2023, 09:18 PM
City haven't been at their best tonight, but you can bet they will be now for the rest of the season

Zizu
15-02-2023, 09:19 PM
The natural order restored, City below par but doing enough

Martinelli, Xhaka, Gabriel, Saliba all regressing to the mean and looking average. Nketiah is crap and all


Nketiah’s hold up play but he’s forgotten how to score


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GiRTh
15-02-2023, 09:38 PM
Give thh ball away three times in your own half to City. What do we expect.

Deflating to lose like that after being on top for most of the first half.

We're badly missing Jesus. Eddie did well but he's showing he's cant sustain any kind of form over a long period of games

joeysteele
15-02-2023, 09:47 PM
Disappointing from Arsenal sadly.
Oh well, Man City back in the premier League driving seat.

Beso
15-02-2023, 09:58 PM
Just need liverpool to get on a decent run now.

bots
15-02-2023, 10:17 PM
Arsenal are a young team, they need to learn to adapt their play when the opposition is shaking it up. The next 6 games will show if they can pull away again from city

bots
16-02-2023, 05:22 PM
Tottenham boss Antonio Conte will miss Sunday's Premier League game against West Ham and not return to work until he has made an "entire recovery" from surgery to remove his gallbladder.

The 53-year-old had the operation in Italy two weeks ago.

But Conte was back last week before the 4-1 defeat at Leicester and in the dugout for Tuesday's Champions League loss at AC Milan.

In an Instagram post, the Italian said he had "underestimated the procedure".

Conte went on to explain that his "great sense of responsibility towards the club, the players, the staff and the fans" had seen him return too early.

"Sadly, I underestimated the procedure, which wasn't a routine operation, but a sudden and serious emergency," he added.

"My body has suffered my impatience, and now I am forced to stop until my entire recovery.

"Who knows me, understands what a burden this is for me, but it is necessary."

Tottenham have not said when they expect Conte to return to his duties, with matches against Chelsea on Sunday, 26 February (13:30 GMT) and a trip to Sheffield United in the fifth round of the FA Cup (1 March, 19:55 GMT) on the horizon, after hosting the Hammers (16:30 GMT).

"Health is the most important consideration," Tottenham said on Thursday.

"Following a routine post-operation check in Italy yesterday, Antonio Conte will remain at his family home to recover from his recent surgery," Spurs added.

"Everyone at the club wishes him well. Cristian Stellini will assume first-team duties."

Zizu
16-02-2023, 07:52 PM
Mica Richards spends £30,000 per year on his hair !!!


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bots
16-02-2023, 07:59 PM
i spend about 20p :laugh:

Zizu
16-02-2023, 11:53 PM
i spend about 20p :laugh:


Darren Bent apparently spends £200 on his hairdo if he’s due to make an appearance on telly ..


It’s a different world ..


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Swan
17-02-2023, 08:17 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12813577/lee-mason-video-assistant-referee-leaves-pgmol-days-after-var-error-costs-arsenal-against-brentford

Lee Mason resigned after screwing Arsenal against Brentford.

Crimson Dynamo
17-02-2023, 08:26 PM
Qatar bid in for man u

breaking news

bots
17-02-2023, 08:29 PM
Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad bin Jaber Al Thani, the chairman of one of Qatar's biggest banks, has confirmed a bid to buy Manchester United.

The move comes ahead of Friday's 22:00 GMT 'soft deadline' for submitting proposals.

bots
18-02-2023, 12:19 PM
Trossard starts

Swan
18-02-2023, 12:20 PM
Trossard starts

Martinelli has been poor since the restart after the WC, im not surprised Trossard is starting over him.

bots
18-02-2023, 12:36 PM
wow what a goal for AV

MTVN
18-02-2023, 12:45 PM
Poor defending and keeping tbh

bots
18-02-2023, 12:47 PM
Saka on fire

bots
18-02-2023, 01:02 PM
game on :laugh:

MTVN
18-02-2023, 01:04 PM
Cracking game

Zizu
18-02-2023, 01:45 PM
The refs these days are either incompetent or just simply corrupt


In the space of five seconds Ings kicked Odegard then Coutinho kicked Saka and then Saka gets booked ..

Then near the end of the half the ref let Martinez waste about 45 seconds before kicking it long and then the ref just blew for far time !!!

Why no booking .. why not at least add on the 45 seconds he just wasted deliberately


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bots
18-02-2023, 01:48 PM
its a physical game Zizu. Players get injured all the time, that's why teams need a good squad, otherwise they would just have 11 players and that would be it

Villa have given Arsenal a real game, don't keep making excuses for what every other team has to deal with every week

Zizu
18-02-2023, 02:08 PM
its a physical game Zizu. Players get injured all the time, that's why teams need a good squad, otherwise they would just have 11 players and that would be it

Villa have given Arsenal a real game, don't keep making excuses for what every other team has to deal with every week


Villa have played some great football .. much improved with the new manager

Still have no idea why the refs have allowed the tackle from behind into the game .. 90% of them go unpunished and many cause injury
Villa have kicked lumps off Arsenal lol day though

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Zizu
18-02-2023, 02:12 PM
See how can that be a handball against Jorginho ?

He lunged in to a tackle and the ball suddenly splurted up and hit his elbow from about 6” away

Ridiculous


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Zizu
18-02-2023, 02:22 PM
Whoooooooo !!!


Brazilian magic!!!

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Zizu
18-02-2023, 02:23 PM
Awwww bladdy VAR now trying to disallow the goal


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MTVN
18-02-2023, 02:26 PM
Should have been offside, Arsenal got very lucky there

GiRTh
18-02-2023, 02:27 PM
:cheer2::cheer2:

Zizu
18-02-2023, 02:27 PM
Nice to see that good guys win sometimes

:)


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bots
18-02-2023, 02:28 PM
irrespective, Arsenal are finding every game now a challenge to get over the line, contrast that with the first part of the season

Zizu
18-02-2023, 02:29 PM
Should have been offside, Arsenal got very lucky there


If it was offside they wouldn’t have hesitate to rule it out


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Zizu
18-02-2023, 02:31 PM
irrespective, Arsenal are finding every game now a challenge to get over the line, contrast that with the first part of the season


True though Villa looked a decent team.

Also they had lost three and drawn one of their last 4 games so to come back twice and eventually win will do wonders for their confidence


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Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2023, 02:31 PM
what a huge result!

Cherie
18-02-2023, 02:32 PM
The last goal :joker:

Zizu
18-02-2023, 02:43 PM
what a huge result!


For a few reasons ..

It’s odd that everyone seems convinced that Arsenal have the advantage because of the game in hand when effectively the game is away to ManCity which realistically means zilch points


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Zizu
18-02-2023, 02:48 PM
Lovely that after all that disgraceful time wasting my Martinez the third and crucial goal bounced in off his head LOL


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bots
18-02-2023, 03:49 PM
chelsea fgs

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2023, 04:05 PM
chelsea fgs

:joker:

bots
18-02-2023, 04:08 PM
it's obviously not working out with Potter as the manager

Swan
18-02-2023, 04:10 PM
Worst Chelsea team in my lifetime

Swan
18-02-2023, 04:41 PM
Azpilicueta got a vicious kick to the head, unintentional, but he's been down for a long time now, this is concerning. He's a tough player too. Takes a lot for him to go down.

bots
18-02-2023, 04:44 PM
Forest equalize :joker:

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2023, 04:46 PM
f me

:joker:

bots
18-02-2023, 04:55 PM
city didn't take their chances, forest deserved it

bots
18-02-2023, 05:00 PM
Potter has to get the boot

Swan
18-02-2023, 05:00 PM
Time for Potter to go

Cherie
18-02-2023, 05:51 PM
Time for Potter to go

He is gone

bots
18-02-2023, 05:56 PM
newcastle meltdown

bots
18-02-2023, 06:00 PM
great news for man united in the cup final :laugh:

Swan
18-02-2023, 06:09 PM
If Newcastle play like this Man Utd will walk the final.

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2023, 06:13 PM
Looks like Potter has run out of Magic!


http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/images/smilies/animated/jump.gif

Swan
18-02-2023, 06:18 PM
Looks like Potter has run out of Magic!


http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/images/smilies/animated/jump.gif

7.5/10

Not bad

Alf
18-02-2023, 06:24 PM
MbsuAbTTsV8

Crimson Dynamo
18-02-2023, 06:36 PM
That Coleman goal was a belter

bots
18-02-2023, 07:02 PM
from Potters post match interview, you know he is gone

Zizu
18-02-2023, 08:28 PM
Right .. so we’re saying that lunging ,two footed assault on Salah by Newcastle’s Dann isn’t a foul n nowadays ??


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Zizu
18-02-2023, 08:38 PM
If Newcastle play like this Man Utd will walk the final.


Newcastle will be without their two first choice keepers , Maxima picked up a knock and Joelinton looked to have a slight hamstring niggle

I see them dropping down the league now ..
Liverpool looked good going forward and soon will have Diaz , Jota and Firmino on as a replacement front three !!


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Zizu
19-02-2023, 10:49 AM
That was hilarious to see Newcastle’s keeper .. Pope cushioning the long through ball with his FACE then grabbing the ball with both hands before completely losing it and kicking the nearest player ( Trippier) up in the air . All that done 20 yards outside his penalty box


Fabulous TV


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Zizu
19-02-2023, 11:03 AM
Apparently Chelsea’s have scored just 3 goals in their last 9 games yet they continue to leave Aubameyang on the BENCH !!


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bots
19-02-2023, 11:59 AM
Potter is not giving the players a chance to gel as a team, he keeps rotating and changing tactics. He should stick with the same players every week and use the same tactics until they settle down.

He is obviously completely out of his depth

Zizu
19-02-2023, 01:28 PM
Potter is not giving the players a chance to gel as a team, he keeps rotating and changing tactics. He should stick with the same players every week and use the same tactics until they settle down.

He is obviously completely out of his depth


It will be interesting to see if the new Chelsea hierarchy stick or twist !?

United stuck with Fergie and had immense success

Arteta’s team apparently lost 7 out of 9 pre season games and Arsenal stayed loyal to him ..

Even Leicester stood by Rodgers …


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bots
19-02-2023, 02:23 PM
De Gea is playing a blinder

bots
19-02-2023, 02:25 PM
boom ... the boy does it again

15 goals in 17 games

bots
19-02-2023, 03:17 PM
make that 16 :laugh:

Beso
19-02-2023, 03:20 PM
LT should have captained rashford.

bots
19-02-2023, 03:21 PM
LT should have captained rashford.

so should I :laugh:

Zizu
19-02-2023, 03:21 PM
make that 16 :laugh:
Just imagine if tan Heg had kept Rashford on in that game when he was chasing the scoring record … he actions scored but it was sadly disallowed and then he was subbed off with about 30 minutes to go and with United on top .. I’d have been blazing


I hate all these bladdy VAR checks to disallow virtually every damn goal !!

I’ve seen comments from a few players who say that they don’t celebrate when they score .. many fans feel the same

It’s taken a massive part out of the whole football experience for many people


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bots
19-02-2023, 03:21 PM
3-0 now

bots
19-02-2023, 03:57 PM
44 attempts on goal between the 2 teams, the most in any premier league game this season

Crimson Dynamo
19-02-2023, 04:13 PM
Man U 3 points behind citeh and 4 from Arsenal

Title race now ON

bots
19-02-2023, 05:26 PM
the spurs game is unwatchable compared to the united game

Zizu
19-02-2023, 06:19 PM
the spurs game is unwatchable compared to the united game


True .. Two teams who play ugly football though .. predictably so given the two managers


There have been some real good games of late though thankfully.. I think I’ve watched about 5 real entertaining games in the last week


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Zizu
19-02-2023, 06:25 PM
Another horrendous tackle on a flair player - this has returned to football this season and it’s getting more and more prevalent


Perisic just jumped in and stamped on Bowens ankle .. then did the same thing to Coufal on the touch line

Both red card offences just one yellow


I think it’s time they started protecting the flair players ..


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MTVN
19-02-2023, 06:46 PM
Another horrendous tackle on a flair player - this has returned to football this season and it’s getting more and more prevalent


Perisic just jumped in and stamped on Bowens ankle .. then did the same thing to Coufal on the touch line

Both red card offences just one yellow


I think it’s time they started protecting the flair players ..


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In stoppage time while they're 2-0 up as well, totally unnecessary

MTVN
19-02-2023, 06:47 PM
We were bloody rubbish though

James
19-02-2023, 06:49 PM
18:37

FT: Tottenham 2-0 West Ham

This is West Ham's 1,500th league defeat ever.


West Ham milestone statistic from the BBC.

Crimson Dynamo
19-02-2023, 06:51 PM
This is West Ham's 1,500th league defeat this season


:skull:

Zizu
19-02-2023, 07:46 PM
This is West Ham's 1,500th league defeat this season


:skull:


Everyone’s favourite midfielder and captain , Declan Rice steering his men to the championship

He’s the most overrated player ( along with Foden ) in world football

Just my opinion


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bots
20-02-2023, 01:05 PM
Man U 3 points behind citeh and 4 from Arsenal

Title race now ON

the quadruple is on, at least for a couple of days :laugh:

bots
20-02-2023, 02:57 PM
Graham Potter still has the support of Chelsea chairman Todd Boehly and the club's board despite their poor run of form.

The Blues have won just two of their past 14 games in all competitions and were beaten 1-0 by Premier League strugglers Southampton on Saturday.

Potter was appointed in September following the sacking of Thomas Tuchel.

However, Chelsea's owners have made it clear that hiring Potter was part of a long-term project.

It is felt the team needs an opportunity to gel after a rebuild that has seen £583m spent on new players in the past two transfer windows, with eight new signings arriving in January alone.

It is also recognised the unprecedented injury crisis has also contributed to difficult circumstances for Potter.

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So that means he will be gone in a couple of weeks :laugh:

bots
20-02-2023, 04:43 PM
West Ham boss David Moyes still has the full support of the club despite his team dropping into the Premier League relegation zone over the weekend.

Sunday's 2-0 defeat at Tottenham left Moyes' side in 18th place in the table.

It has raised questions over the Scot's future, with some suggestions he could be sacked if West Ham lose Saturday's home game with Nottingham Forest.

BBC Sport has been told the situation is not as clear-cut as that and Moyes retains the board's 100% backing.

It is acknowledged how much good work Moyes has done since he returned for a second spell as manager in December 2019, guiding them clear of relegation trouble before taking them into Europe through their league position in successive seasons for the first time in the club's history.

Moyes knows that West Ham's current position is not what was expected after an unprecedented summer transfer spend, even though the squad has been badly hit by injuries.

However, West Ham will learn their last-16 opponents in the Europa Conference League on Friday and next week face Manchester United in the FA Cup fifth round.

And the belief is, with 15 games to go, Moyes can still turn the current league situation around.

Moyes' first spell as Hammers boss ran between November 2017 and May 2018, when he was not offered a new contract.

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Zizu
20-02-2023, 04:43 PM
West Ham boss David Moyes still has the full support of the club despite his team dropping into the Premier League relegation zone over the weekend.

Sunday's 2-0 defeat at Tottenham left Moyes' side in 18th place in the table.

It has raised questions over the Scot's future, with some suggestions he could be sacked if West Ham lose Saturday's home game with Nottingham Forest.

BBC Sport has been told the situation is not as clear-cut as that and Moyes retains the board's 100% backing.

It is acknowledged how much good work Moyes has done since he returned for a second spell as manager in December 2019, guiding them clear of relegation trouble before taking them into Europe through their league position in successive seasons for the first time in the club's history.

Moyes knows that West Ham's current position is not what was expected after an unprecedented summer transfer spend, even though the squad has been badly hit by injuries.

However, West Ham will learn their last-16 opponents in the Europa Conference League on Friday and next week face Manchester United in the FA Cup fifth round.

And the belief is, with 15 games to go, Moyes can still turn the current league situation around.

Moyes' first spell as Hammers boss ran between November 2017 and May 2018, when he was not offered a new contract.

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The Championship is Moyse’s level


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Zizu
24-02-2023, 11:39 AM
Intriguing

Chelsea star Mykhaylo Mudryk is ‘not in a good mood’ at the club according to Shakhtar Donetsk director of football Darijo Srna as the 40-year-old admitted that he would happily buy the player back.

The winger is yet to impress since his big-money move to Stamford Bridge in January after the Blues beat London rivals Arsenal to his signature.


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Zizu
24-02-2023, 09:13 PM
Wolves looking good so far playing some lovely stuff like the old days


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Zizu
24-02-2023, 09:17 PM
The reffing is yet again so poor .

They are letting far too many bad tackles go unpunished these days

Wolves had three players injured at one time .. the ref just carried on playing !’

One was stretchered off after 5 minutes treatment first on the pitch

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Nicky91
25-02-2023, 02:25 PM
why are newcastle not playing this weekend?

Cherie
25-02-2023, 02:34 PM
why are newcastle not playing this weekend?

playing Man U in Carabou Cup final tomos

Nicky91
25-02-2023, 02:42 PM
playing Man U in Carabou Cup final tomos

oh yes the carabao cup, which we receive advertisements of every 15 minutes but no promo of newcastle, just Man U and Rashford promo on Viaplay (talking about any form of bias there :laugh:)

Zizu
25-02-2023, 03:57 PM
I am getting so sick of VAR disallowing perfectly good goals !!

Trossard just scored an absolute screamer only to see it ruled out ..
All pundits agree that they have no idea why ..


Edit

Apparently contact on the keeper !?


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bots
25-02-2023, 03:59 PM
i'm watching it Zizu and Ben White grabbed the keepers arm as he was trying to save the shot :joker:

Zizu
25-02-2023, 04:07 PM
i'm watching it Zizu and Ben White grabbed the keepers arm as he was trying to save the shot :joker:


Why did none of the pundits see it ?

Holding is rife in every penalty box anyways

They should use the old playground rule ‘n

“ you can’t disallow a goal “

:)


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Zizu
25-02-2023, 04:33 PM
Wonder why nearly all the decent English centre forwards are made of glass ( sicknotes)

Danny Ings
Patrick Bamford
Andy Carroll
Calvert Lewin
Callum Wilson

I’m sure there’s some more


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bots
25-02-2023, 05:00 PM
the arsenal game was poor

Crimson Dynamo
25-02-2023, 05:12 PM
the arsenal game was poor

3 points and a clean sheet the Arsenal fans will be loving it

Zizu
25-02-2023, 05:20 PM
3 points and a clean sheet the Arsenal fans will be loving it


Sadly their game in hand is effectively away to ManCity :(


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Zizu
25-02-2023, 06:08 PM
Crazy that those two pathetic goal attempts from Foden both resulted in goals for City


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Zizu
25-02-2023, 08:01 PM
Absolute rubbish reffing as usual
Clear foul on Gakpo yet no free kick given as he played on even though no advantage to Liverpool !!

They are supposed to go back to the free kick in that situation


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Zizu
25-02-2023, 08:03 PM
Of Liverpool win tonight they go to 5th place, one point behind Spurs but with a game in hand !!


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bots
25-02-2023, 08:07 PM
with the number of games left to play, literally anything can happen at the top of the table. Goal difference is going to be the decider this season

Zizu
25-02-2023, 08:48 PM
with the number of games left to play, literally anything can happen at the top of the table. Goal difference is going to be the decider this season


Ideally Arsenal will have Partey and Jesus back for the City game so if they can get a draw at their place I’ll be fairly confident


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GiRTh
25-02-2023, 10:42 PM
Just seen the disallowed Trossard goal. What the hell was wrong with it? When the ball is played out after the corner, what phase are we in? are we still in the first phase of the corner? I disagree. The keeper was pretty much standing on his own when Trossard shot. What the hell does something that happened 5 seconds ago matter?

Var needs a big review

bots
25-02-2023, 11:25 PM
var is very hit or miss, but when white grabbed the keepers arm, that can't be allowed

Zizu
26-02-2023, 12:01 AM
Anyone know who was marking Saka today !?

He had tear holes in both calves

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230226/823a1320aad529dd6a91974fbb854dee.jpg


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GiRTh
26-02-2023, 12:09 PM
var is very hit or miss, but when white grabbed the keepers arm, that can't be allowedI get that but my questions is what phase of play are we in? If we're in the first phase of the corner I'd disagree. When the ball is played out what happened a few seconds ago doesn't matter. Soon we'll be disallowing goals for something that happened on the other side of pitch and had nothing to do with the play.

As soon as the refs go the monitor its certain the decision will be overturned. Live at full speed no one would have disallowed that goal and if it had stood with the videos we're seeing, I still think most people would have allowed the goal

GiRTh
26-02-2023, 12:11 PM
Anyone know who was marking Saka today !?

He had tear holes in both calves

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230226/823a1320aad529dd6a91974fbb854dee.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProHe gets kicked every game. He's too honest, most of the tackles he gets he tries to stay on his feet. Grealish, Zaha would go down from most of the tackles Saka receives

Zizu
26-02-2023, 12:26 PM
I get that but my questions is what phase of play are we in? If we're in the first phase of the corner I'd disagree. When the ball is played out what happened a few seconds ago doesn't matter. Soon we'll be disallowing goals for something that happened on the other side of pitch and had nothing to do with the play.

As soon as the refs go the monitor its certain the decision will be overturned. Live at full speed no one would have disallowed that goal and if it had stood with the videos we're seeing, I still think most people would have allowed the goal


Well every pundit was mystified with the decision


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Zizu
26-02-2023, 12:27 PM
He gets kicked every game. He's too honest, most of the tackles he gets he tries to stay on his feet. Grealish, Zaha would go down from most of the tackles Saka receives


I was amazed that the ref let Bernardo Silva kick Sacka up in the air FOUR times before finally booking him


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bots
26-02-2023, 12:59 PM
I get that but my questions is what phase of play are we in? If we're in the first phase of the corner I'd disagree. When the ball is played out what happened a few seconds ago doesn't matter. Soon we'll be disallowing goals for something that happened on the other side of pitch and had nothing to do with the play.

As soon as the refs go the monitor its certain the decision will be overturned. Live at full speed no one would have disallowed that goal and if it had stood with the videos we're seeing, I still think most people would have allowed the goal

In the instance i am referring to the keeper was being held while he was in the process of jumping to save the shot, i dont know how more active the phase can be :laugh:

Zizu
26-02-2023, 01:04 PM
In the instance i am referring to the keeper was being held while he was in the process of jumping to save the shot, i dont know how more active the phase can be :laugh:


I saw that and it was a foul on the keeper but you see three or four similar offences at every free kick or corner .. nothing is ever done .. until yesterday

If you watch today every defender will be shadowing and holding their ‘man’ and not even watching the ball


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Zizu
26-02-2023, 01:29 PM
I can see Chelsea winning this

I like Potter and it would be nice to see him doing well again and turning Chelsea into a team good to watch playing nice football

Although Koulabaly is always a liability


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bots
26-02-2023, 01:30 PM
I saw that and it was a foul on the keeper but you see three or four similar offences at every free kick or corner .. nothing is ever done .. until yesterday

If you watch today every defender will be shadowing and holding their ‘man’ and not even watching the ball


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because ben white stopped the keeper from saving the blinking shot, the goal should obviously be disallowed and i have no idea why anyone is trying to say it's ok, other than the fact it affected the team they support :laugh:

Zizu
26-02-2023, 01:31 PM
because ben white stopped the keeper from saving the blinking shot, the goal should obviously be disallowed and i have no idea why anyone is trying to say it's ok, other than the fact it affected the team they support :laugh:


Fair enough but then they should be giving fouls / penalties at every corner and free kick then ..


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Zizu
26-02-2023, 01:33 PM
Sterling writhing on the floor in agony until he realised that play had continued.. then got up immediately and sprinted off

Joker


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Zizu
26-02-2023, 01:38 PM
Dier just stamped on and then went through Felix .. the ref just gives a free kick and doesn’t even warn Dier

Why are refs so lenient these days
Edit - minutes later Dier goes through the back of Felix leaving him in a heap on the ground.. ref just plays on !!!



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Zizu
26-02-2023, 02:03 PM
This ref is just too lenient

I reckon someone gets hurt today as he’s letting too much go unpunished


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bots
26-02-2023, 02:04 PM
var rules automatically change when a goal has been scored. It was the same at the world cup. The moment a goal has been scored any relevant infringement on the leadup to that goal can mean the goal is disallowed. If there is no goal, the refs don't care about infringements, they have been told not to penalise so many fouls and let the game flow. Anything in the penalty area gets special var attention

I don't know whats so difficult to understand about it all

Zizu
26-02-2023, 02:07 PM
var rules automatically change when a goal has been scored. It was the same at the world cup. The moment a goal has been scored any relevant infringement on the leadup to that goal can mean the goal is disallowed. If there is no goal, the refs don't care about infringements, they have been told not to penalise so many fouls and let the game flow. Anything in the penalty area gets special var attention

I don't know whats so difficult to understand about it all


It’s not a case of understanding a lot of what goes on - it’s just that I don’t agree with what’s happening -l

The majority want to see the best /flair players showing their talent .. and teams like Arsenal being allowed to play beautiful football..

Currently they are letting thuggish players like Dier , Romero, Koulabaly just kick through players at their will with no punishment or bookings

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Zizu
26-02-2023, 02:23 PM
So a frustrated flair player Ziyech reacts and gets sent off .. with Dier and Romero demanding he’s sent off - completely balmy

At the same time missing that Lenglet’s earlier push on Ziyech was worse but unpunished

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Swan
26-02-2023, 02:27 PM
The commentary on the NBC are adamant that was a red card, would have been soft imo. Especially as Ziyech was smashed in the back. And Richarlison has been smashing into players all game.

Yellow was correct, not even being bias.

Zizu
26-02-2023, 02:31 PM
The commentary on the NBC are adamant that was a red card, would have been soft imo. Especially as Ziyech was smashed in the back. And Richarlison has been smashing into players all game.

Yellow was correct, not even being bias.


Lenglet’s push / strike set it all off and he wasn’t even told off ..


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Swan
26-02-2023, 02:36 PM
Lenglet’s push / strike set it all off and he wasn’t even told off ..


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Well i know we disagree on leniency as i don't mind the physical side of the game. But had Zyeich been sent off for that then Langlet should have been sent off too. And Richarlison has already got away with at least 2 yellow card offences.

Thiago Silva was kinda lucky too earlier in the game tbf, he deliberately tried to elbow matey.

Swan
26-02-2023, 02:41 PM
Great

Zizu
26-02-2023, 02:50 PM
Chelsea need to get Sterling and Loftus Cheek off pronto


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Swan
26-02-2023, 03:01 PM
Chelsea just never look like a threat, they're terrible going forward. If Chelsea hadn't accumulated points in the first half of the season they'd legitimately be in a relegation battle now.

Zizu
26-02-2023, 03:03 PM
Chelsea just never look like a threat, they're terrible going forward. If Chelsea hadn't accumulated points in the first half of the season they'd legitimately be in a relegation battle now.


They only have one classy player in Felix who is on loan ..


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Zizu
26-02-2023, 03:05 PM
How is that not a foul on Felix by Skipp ??


He just literally kicked him up in the air from behind


This is just ridiculous


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Swan
26-02-2023, 03:06 PM
They only have one classy player in Felix who is on loan ..


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And the opposition know that so they never give him a second on the ball.

Funny you say about Sterling, i remember having a row with about 6 other Chelsea fans about how Sterling is a below average player. I said he'd be a flop, and that he only had good seasons with world class players around him.

I was told i was being ridiculous, and that he's just the type of player we needed. Well, he's so bad he would struggle to get into a league One team.

Zizu
26-02-2023, 03:07 PM
How is that not a foul on Felix by Skipp ??


He just literally kicked him up in the air from behind


This is just ridiculous


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Now Romero miscontrolled the ball and lunged into Felix …no foul


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Swan
26-02-2023, 03:08 PM
Yeah what an absolute joke that was, fcuk me!

Zizu
26-02-2023, 03:08 PM
And the opposition know that so they never give him a second on the ball.

Funny you say about Sterling, i remember having a row with about 6 other Chelsea fans about how Sterling is a below average player. I said he'd be a flop, and that he only had good seasons with world class players around him.

I was told i was being ridiculous, and that he's just the type of player we needed. Well, he's so bad he would struggle to get into a league One team.


I’ve never rated him as a player when some were claiming he was world class ..

He’s a nice enough guy though


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Swan
26-02-2023, 03:09 PM
I’ve never rated him as a player when some were claiming he was world class ..

He’s a nice enough guy though


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Yeah i have nothing against him as a person. But as a player he's always been massively overrated.

Zizu
26-02-2023, 03:09 PM
May as well put Mudryk and Aubameyang on fffs


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Swan
26-02-2023, 03:15 PM
Potter has to go

Zizu
26-02-2023, 03:17 PM
Dier was climbing on Mount’s shoulders for his header to Kane so according to the rules the goal should not stand


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Zizu
26-02-2023, 03:17 PM
The two subs are 10 minutes too late


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Zizu
26-02-2023, 03:18 PM
10 minutes to save his career


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Zizu
26-02-2023, 03:19 PM
Highlights show clear foul on Mount for that goal so what is the point of VAR


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Swan
26-02-2023, 03:23 PM
Highlights show clear foul on Mount for that goal so what is the point of VAR


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People hate Chelsea, they're happy about their downfall, so it's not mentioned. The commentary on USA didn't even acknowledge it

bots
26-02-2023, 03:33 PM
the moment the board said they had full confidence in potter, it was obvious he was within a couple of matches of the sack

Swan
26-02-2023, 03:45 PM
I've never seen a Chelsea team play so poor as they have done the 2nd half of this season. Even with the first Jose era, yeah we didn't always play exciting football, but we got the job done, and comfortably. We literally never look like a threat going forward. We've brought too many unproven players. People like Mount are 1 in 10 good game players. Our defence has no organisation, Midfield is weak and all of the place. And we're awful going forward. We've tried to throw money at the problem, and that's not working, i feel now we need to get rid of Potter. Bring someone in who will stick with a starting 11, and just hope by the start of next season the players have had time to gel, and things pick up.

This season is a total loss. I remember in 2012, we were poor domestically, yet we had fight and went on to win the CL and FA Cup. No way are we pulling off a CL win this season. No fight, no real passion, and the quality is at an all time low.

Swan
26-02-2023, 03:49 PM
Getting rid of Tuchel was an awful decision too.

Zizu
26-02-2023, 03:51 PM
How did Potter have BRIGHTON playing so well though ?!?

Why play out of form players who are also lacking confidence ??


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Swan
26-02-2023, 03:54 PM
How did Potter have BRIGHTON playing so well though ?!?


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No fear, young unknowns looking to make a name for themselves. And ultimately no pressure. I like Potter, i think he's a nice guy, but too much too soon. Brighton's main goal is staying in the PL. And good luck to them, ironically it's by far the easiest PL Stadium for me to get to. Not the distance, but the drive is easy. I know a few Brighton fans. Im happy they've done so well. But Potter had it easy there. Chelsea are ruthless and expect trophies. It was just too big a step for him.

bots
26-02-2023, 04:00 PM
he also has a bigger squad of highly talented, highly paid players, its a completely different dynamic.

Look at Man U with Pogba and Ronaldo, with a standard manager, they destroyed the dressing room, it needed a manager like Ten Hag who doesn't mess about to sort the problem out

Zizu
26-02-2023, 04:00 PM
No fear, young unknowns looking to make a name for themselves. And ultimately no pressure. I like Potter, i think he's a nice guy, but too much too soon. Brighton's main goal is staying in the PL. And good luck to them, ironically it's by far the easiest PL Stadium for me to get to. Not the distance, but the drive is easy. I know a few Brighton fans. Im happy they've done so well. But Potter had it easy there. Chelsea are ruthless and expect trophies. It was just too big a step for him.


Lallana, Wellbeck …and other wanderers - cast offs


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GiRTh
26-02-2023, 04:07 PM
In the instance i am referring to the keeper was being held while he was in the process of jumping to save the shot, i dont know how more active the phase can be :laugh:Jumping for the weak punch out, yes Benny Blanco is holding the keepers arm. Not when trying to save the Trossard shot though. The keeper was standing still on his own.

My argument, is the corner phase has ended and we were in a new phase. Can we have the following scenarios - Corner taken, headed out, crossed back in, headed out, crossed back in, headed out, shoot score. Do we go back to original corner to see if there is a foul? Surely not. In this instance, if the keeper had stayed on the ground Trossard shoots etc. Now I agree, the goal should be disallowed but not for a hand on the arm that happened ages before the ball was in the back of the net.

Interesting as Paul Merson mentioned, the refs dont see a clear pull down of Saka but they can see a hand on the keepers arm from a corner..

Swan
26-02-2023, 04:19 PM
he also has a bigger squad of highly talented, highly paid players, its a completely different dynamic.

Look at Man U with Pogba and Ronaldo, with a standard manager, they destroyed the dressing room, it needed a manager like Ten Hag who doesn't mess about to sort the problem out

Lallana, Wellbeck …and other wanderers - cast offs


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Also, yeah we need to give Potter credit for Brighton, but they've not exactly fallen apart since he left either.

bots
28-02-2023, 07:36 PM
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola jokes that Manchester United could win the Premier League "if they spend a little more money". :laugh:

Beso
28-02-2023, 07:39 PM
Come back soon caldy..its good to escape sometimes x

Nicky91
01-03-2023, 01:47 PM
tonights games

Arsenal - Everton

Liverpool - Wolves

Zizu
01-03-2023, 02:35 PM
tonights games

Arsenal - Everton

Liverpool - Wolves


The way things are going ..

Everton win 0:4

:)


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GiRTh
01-03-2023, 08:58 PM
Getting rid of Tuchel was an awful decision too.
This is true.

Potter looks and sounds like a loser. He's like Moyes at Man Utd or Ole at Man Utd. Sounds like he's just happy to be there rather saying he's gonna take the team to another level

GiRTh
01-03-2023, 09:40 PM
Is it squeaky bum time? I dunno but that was good performance. We looked awful till we scored.

Zizu
01-03-2023, 09:41 PM
Is it squeaky bum time? I dunno but that was good performance. We looked awful till we scored.


Who are you talking about !


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Zizu
01-03-2023, 09:42 PM
The way things are going ..

Everton win 0:4

:)


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Phew what a relief .. I got the scoreline right though


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GiRTh
01-03-2023, 09:43 PM
Who are you talking about !


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProArsenal. Good win under pressure

bots
01-03-2023, 09:52 PM
that win should settle Arsenal down again and the league is theirs to win

Zizu
01-03-2023, 09:57 PM
Arsenal. Good win under pressure


Just that away game to ManC to worry about


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Mystic Mock
01-03-2023, 10:14 PM
Dier was climbing on Mount’s shoulders for his header to Kane so according to the rules the goal should not stand


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He was using Mount for a bit of support.

I know that it's a really late reply, but my point still stands.:hmph:

Mystic Mock
01-03-2023, 10:16 PM
Getting rid of Tuchel was an awful decision too.

It's your Gary Rowett moment imo.

Hopefully though you don't have the 7 years that have followed.

GiRTh
01-03-2023, 10:24 PM
Just that away game to ManC to worry about


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProYep. Anything from that game will be great but I'm not sure we'll get much

Zizu
01-03-2023, 11:15 PM
He was using Mount for a bit of support.

I know that it's a really late reply, but my point still stands.:hmph:


You’re not allowed to do that though :)


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James
01-03-2023, 11:53 PM
FYI, Arsenal were 50/1 to win the league at the beginning of the season.

https://gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2022/08/01/arsenal-odds-in-the-2022-2023-premier-league/

Zizu
02-03-2023, 12:59 AM
FYI, Arsenal were 50/1 to win the league at the beginning of the season.

https://gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2022/08/01/arsenal-odds-in-the-2022-2023-premier-league/


I actually said they would be get top 4 , maybe third ..


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Denver
03-03-2023, 01:20 PM
Firmino has made the decision to leave Liverpool at the end of his contract, he will join Keita, Ox and Adrian whose contracts won't be renewed aswell as potentially Milner who has yet to be offered a new contract

Zizu
04-03-2023, 11:15 AM
Wow

ManU’s Fred has scored more goals since November than the WHOLE of the Chelsea squad !!


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Zizu
04-03-2023, 11:21 AM
On a positive..

Chelsea’s next six games … include FIVE at home apparently !!

Surely Potter is gonna have to turn things around in the next month of he’s done


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Zizu
04-03-2023, 11:23 AM
Firmino has made the decision to leave Liverpool at the end of his contract, he will join Keita, Ox and Adrian whose contracts won't be renewed aswell as potentially Milner who has yet to be offered a new contract


I’d love Firmino at Barca


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bots
04-03-2023, 12:27 PM
Will it all change again this weekend? I bet it does given how random this season has been :laugh:

Zizu
04-03-2023, 12:45 PM
Will it all change again this weekend? I bet it does given how random this season has been :laugh:


I felt that Newcastle could give City problems but they’ve started Wilson ahead of Isak who’s been far more effective of late

I don’t see the point of Wilson tbh He’s very rarely fit to play even then he doesn’t link up play , doesn’t press the ball , isn’t fast enough to be a nuisance as just shown in that loose ball in the box


He will prob score the winner now … hopefully :)

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Zizu
04-03-2023, 12:48 PM
Newcastle’s season crumpling with that deflected goal …


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bots
04-03-2023, 12:49 PM
Foden played a blinder for that goal

Zizu
04-03-2023, 12:54 PM
Bruno Guimarães is far too good for Newcastle
!!


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Zizu
04-03-2023, 12:55 PM
Foden played a blinder for that goal


True .. up to the final deflected shot
Crazy how a rock solid defence can suddenly play like this - the whole Newcastle team apart from Bruno have gone AWOL

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Zizu
04-03-2023, 01:01 PM
Newcastle are carrying Wilson .. I’ve never seen anyone press the ball so ineffectively then he’s just missed an absolute sitter

Get Isak on before the game has gone !


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Zizu
04-03-2023, 02:05 PM
Newcastle should have been two or three up by now .. but another error from Trippier who’s had a nightmare game gives City their second goal

Isak has done more in two minutes than Wilson did in 70 !!


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Zizu
04-03-2023, 02:07 PM
Arsenal will be livid at this shambolic Newcastle performance.

They have miskicked two sitters and given the ball away needlessly all afternoon


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Zizu
04-03-2023, 03:01 PM
Bournemouth one up against Arsenal after 7 seconds !!


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bots
04-03-2023, 03:12 PM
:joker:

Zizu
04-03-2023, 03:24 PM
Bournemouth should be two up !

Trossard carried off injured ..

Yikes

Big day for Arsenal


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Denver
04-03-2023, 04:53 PM
Win our next 2 and we will be in the top 4

Zizu
04-03-2023, 04:55 PM
Win our next 2 and we will be in the top 4


Who ?


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Zizu
04-03-2023, 04:57 PM
Arsenal !!!!


Great win but how were they losing 0:2 at home to Bournemouth ??

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