New Prime Minister aged 42, Rishi Sunak : Oct 2022

[joeysteele]

So why didn't the Chancellor give his speech at 3.30.

Starmer held it all up, Joey
with his urgent question

I'm surprised at that from you.

I said why didn't the Chancellor speak then Truss answer afterwards.

Mordaunt said she couldn't be there today yet now is.

Starmer's question was to her not Mordaunt.
So why couldn't it be asked WHEN she was there.

Why can't she be forced to in fact answer it NOW.
Since she's now just sitting there looking like a ventriloquists dummy.

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm surprised at that from you.

I said why didn't the Chancellor speak then Truss answer afterwards.

Mordaunt said she couldn't be there today yet now is.

Starmer's question was to her not Mordaunt.
So why couldn't it be asked WHEN she was there.

Why can't she forced to in fact answer it NOW.
Since she's now just sitting there looking like a ventriloquists dummy.

Is this the first day you've met him? :smug:

[arista]

I'm surprised at that from you.

I said why didn't the Chancellor speak then Truss answer afterwards.

Mordaunt said she couldn't be there today yet now is.

Starmer's question was to her not Mordaunt.
So why couldn't it be asked WHEN she was there.

Why can't she forced to in fact answer it NOW.
Since she's now just sitting there looking like a ventriloquists dummy.

When Penny Arrived
The Prime Minister was busy in her office

When J. Hunt arrived
she was with him.

Today is Not about Starmers Question


It is about Jeremy Hunt's Statement

[hijaxers]

I'm surprised at that from you.

I said why didn't the Chancellor speak then Truss answer afterwards.

Mordaunt said she couldn't be there today yet now is.

Starmer's question was to her not Mordaunt.
So why couldn't it be asked WHEN she was there.

Why can't she forced to in fact answer it NOW.
Since she's now just sitting there looking like a ventriloquists dummy.

Penny actually said that they would both be coming later not that she was not coming at all, i presume they were in a meeting and who'd wanna rush to Kier Starmer ?

[rusticgal]

Since she's now just sitting there looking like a ventriloquists dummy.


She certainly does....I just want to wipe that stupid smirk off her face...

[joeysteele]

When Penny Arrived
The Prime Minister was busy in her office

When J. Hunt arrived
she was with him.

Today is Not about Starmers Question


It is about Jeremy Hunt's Statement

Sorry arista but I respectfully think that's likely nonsense.

Look at her!!!
Why could she not answer the question.

Taking everyone for fools when she's really the prize fool.
What's the point of her even being there NOW.

You seem very sadly misguided in your admiration for hopeless Truss.

[The Slim Reaper]

Penny actually said that they would both be coming later not that she was not coming at all, i presume they were in a meeting and who'd wanna rush to Kier Starmer ?

Aren't you a labour supporter?

[joeysteele]

Penny actually said that they would both be coming later not that she was not coming at all, i presume they were in a meeting and who'd wanna rush to Kier Starmer ?

Because respect for both PM and Opposition leader should work both ways.
That's why.
Plus when the Speaker allows the opposition leader's question, it's really the duty of the PM to be there.

[arista]

[Look at her!!!
Why could she not answer the question.]



No Weds is her Day
she will speak

[hijaxers]

Aren't you a labour supporter?


No too woke for me and i'd like all this woke rubbish gone , i'll be voting Reform Starmer won't get my vote .

[joeysteele]

She certainly does....I just want to wipe that stupid smirk off her face...

I know, it's infuriating.

[The Slim Reaper]

No too woke for me and i'd like all this woke rubbish gone , i'll be voting Reform Starmer won't get my vote .

Didn't you get massively offended when I said you weren't labour a short while ago?

What does woke mean?

[arista]

No too woke for me and i'd like all this woke rubbish gone , i'll be voting Reform Starmer won't get my vote .

Nothing wrong in stating the truth.

[arista]

Didn't you get massively offended when I said you weren't labour a short while ago?

What does woke mean?


It could be Starmer not able
to describe what a women is




It was featured on BBCnewsnight
which showed the LBC clip

[hijaxers]

Didn't you get massively offended when I said you weren't labour a short while ago?

What does woke mean?

Gimme a break i don't need witty comments thanks. Yes i said i never voted Tory in my life but i didn't vote Labour last time either 1st time i didn't cos of Corbyn ~ and now absolutley not.

[joeysteele]

[Look at her!!!
Why could she not answer the question.]



No Weds is her Day
she will speak

Fine arista.
I'm getting.nowhere, have it your way.
No point in dragging my point on.

So the Speaker should have got her to be there earlier Wednesday to answer the oppsition leader's question then.
Rather than waste the time today.
Then this speaker in my view is useless.

I hope Starmer is advised to ask her the question again on Wednesday PMQs.
IF that is she even goes there for that.

[The Slim Reaper]

Gimme a break i don't need witty comments thanks. Yes i said i never voted Tory in my life but i didn't vote Labour last time either 1st time i didn't cos of Corbyn ~ and now absolutley not.

I appreciate the compliment but there was nothing witty in my post, just a genuine question.


What was it about Corbyn that you didn't like? The support for refugees? What does woke mean? If you're against wokeism, what is the opposite of that, that you support?

[The Slim Reaper]

It could be Starmer not able
to describe what a women is




It was featured on BBCnewsnight
which showed the LBC clip

Do you realise that social justice isn't just about trans people?

[arista]

[IF that is she even goes there for that.]



Yes Joey
unless she has to take a flight out

[hijaxers]

I appreciate the compliment but there was nothing witty in my post, just a genuine question.


What was it about Corbyn that you didn't like? The support for refugees? What does woke mean? If you're against wokeism, what is the opposite of that, that you support?

I support common senseism.

[arista]

Jeremy Hunt
has restored the Markets.


Truss is going to meet her MPs
and Cabinet.
This evening.


Ch5HDnews Live reporter in Westminster

[The Slim Reaper]

I support common senseism.

What does that mean, exactly?

Are you pro-racism, as an example, because anti-racism is woke?

Are you anti gay people, because LGBTQ support is woke, also?

[hijaxers]

What does that mean, exactly?

Are you pro-racism, as an example, because anti-racism is woke?

Are you anti gay people, because LGBTQ support is woke, also?

Look i've always supported anti racism and my daughter is gay . I supported these causes before 'woke' was ever part of every day vocabulary .

[arista]

Look i've always supported anti racism and my daughter is gay . I supported these causes before 'woke' was ever part of every day vocabulary .



Yes you are a great poster hijaxers,
honest


Slim is wasting his time

[The Slim Reaper]

Look i've always supported anti racism and my daughter is gay . I supported these causes before 'woke' was ever part of every day vocabulary .

Ok, so why are you now anti these things? You sound a bit woke in that post.

Woke only became part of everyday vocab to provide cover for the people who are against justice for all, and want to promote a more bigoted outlook.

[hijaxers]

Ok, so why are you now anti these things? You sound a bit woke in that post.

Woke only became part of everyday vocab to provide cover for the people who are against justice for all, and want to promote a more bigoted outlook.

Woke off.

[The Slim Reaper]

Woke off.

And there we are. I guess that anti-racism must have died with your labour support :blush:

[arista]

[The pound rose and government borrowing
costs fell on Monday,
as investors welcomed the announcement
by Chancellor Jeremy Hunt of the reversal
of most of the mini-budget tax measures.
Sterling extended gains against the dollar,
and is trading above $1.14.

The news also saw the interest rate - or yield - on
UK government bonds fall,
making government borrowing less expensive.]


BBC Feed

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes you are a great poster hijaxers,
honest


Slim is wasting his time

I was just having a conversation, Arista. Anything I'm against, I can explain pretty clearly why. I just assume others are also able to explain the most basic of things as well.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[bots]

I liked Mordaunt but honestly have any of them any integrity left.
Surprised Mordaunt is deceitfully defending Truss.

Truss should be there, she isn't.
So she shouldn't be PM a moment longer than it takes to get rid of her.

Sadly to the public, Mordaunt now too will likely be seen as another likely spent force.

This is awful really.
They are humiliating themselves as well as really insulting voters and the public too.

Very disappointed with Mordaunt's display here too now.

it's a farce. When a PM can't answer an urgent question about their own government, they just hasten their own departure. She is PM but she now has no authority, that is unsustainable

[Oliver_W]

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Interesting if so, based on anything?

[The Slim Reaper]

Interesting if so, based on anything?

No idea. She's an ex tory MP, so she will have connections, but probably closer to an educated guess at this stage.

[Cherie]

I think she will resign, she cannot in all conscience hang on

[arista]

Interesting if so, based on anything?


No, it was a Fake Rumour


Ideal for a bitter Ex Conservative liker her

[arista]

I think she will resign, she cannot in all conscience hang on


She is

Next Live on Weds PMQ's


Only 3 Official Back benchers want her out
that is Not enough.

Deal in Facts

[arista]

No idea. She's an ex tory MP, so she will have connections, but probably closer to an educated guess at this stage.


But some are Fake
making it easy to set her up

[The Slim Reaper]

But some are Fake
making it easy to set her up

And? If you read my post, I state clearly that it's probably an educated guess.

[arista]

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Yes Anna you are an Old Fool

[arista]

And? If you read my post, I state clearly that it's probably an educated guess.

Yes about your sad level.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes about your sad level.

Which bit was wrong?

[The Slim Reaper]

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Yes Anna you are an Old Fool

Because she was anti-brexit? :laugh:

[arista]

Because she was anti-brexit? :laugh:


No

Because she is getting bad info


Wasting our time

[The Slim Reaper]

No

Because she is getting bad info


Wasting our time

She said "I think..."

About your level that you can't even read and comprehend the one sentence she wrote.

Sad :smug:

[arista]

She said "I think..."

About your level that you can't even read and comprehend the one sentence she wrote.

Sad :smug:


I read that.

Still wasting our time.

[arista]

After 2 Hours

Jeremy Hunt has now concluded.

[The Slim Reaper]

I read that.

Still wasting our time.

Only absolute facts can be posted on Twitter, not opinions? Vacuous nonsense from you. Sad.

[Zizu]

After 2 Hours

Jeremy Hunt has now concluded.


I’ve concluded that he’s a complete imbecile and … spineless


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[Crimson Dynamo]

woke only became part of everyday vocab to provide cover for the people who are against justice for all, and want to promote a more bigoted outlook.

you seem really threatened by the word woke to describe pathetic virtue signallers desperate to be liked?

One wonders why, you go on about the word more than any member?

[hijaxers]

And there we are. I guess that anti-racism must have died with your labour support :blush:

As a matter of fact i used to live with a black guy, not that its any of your business.

[The Slim Reaper]

you seem really threatened by the word woke to describe pathetic virtue signallers desperate to be liked?

One wonders why, you go on about the word more than any member?

I think it's pretty clear that you of all people shouldn't be accusing anyone of overusing the word woke. I couldn't point to one person on here who uses it more than you do :blush:

[The Slim Reaper]

As a matter of fact i used to live with a black guy, not that its any of your business.

:clap1:

Some of my best friends are black :smug:

[hijaxers]

:clap1:

Some of my best friends are black :smug:

Done with you.

[bots]

I think she will resign, she cannot in all conscience hang on

if she has any decency she will resign. All the tories are playing games at the moment. MP's that think she is a disaster are going on camera and say we need a strong and stable government that only truss can provide. I honestly think they are taking the piss now

[Crimson Dynamo]

Done with you.

dont rise to the bait

[hijaxers]

dont rise to the bait


What maggots? :joker: how right you are LT

[The Slim Reaper]

What maggots? :joker: how right you are LT

If you're done with me (which is cool), please don't use posts to other members to try and sneak diss.

[hijaxers]

If you're done with me (which is cool), please don't use posts to other members to try and sneak diss.

Well stop making members feel like that. Bye

[The Slim Reaper]

Well stop making members feel like that. Bye

I challenge anyone to read this conversation. All I did was ask you questions, and you lost your sh1t, because you backed yourself into a corner where you couldn't be honest about the definition of a word.

[bots]

Who thinks the media has done a good job reporting on this fiasco?

For me its highlighted more clearly than ever before how bad our media are. They talk about Truss's U turn, have they looked at themselves?

[The Slim Reaper]

Who thinks the media has done a good job reporting on this fiasco?

For me its highlighted more clearly than ever before how bad our media are. They talk about Truss's U turn, have they looked at themselves?

Most of the MS media are of the right, so they can't actually be honest about what is happening because they agreed with pretty much all of it, as I showed with the Oakeshott and Farage examples a couple of pages ago.

[bots]

A poll today has labour with a 46% lead over the tories :joker::joker:

[joeysteele]

A poll today has labour with a 46% lead over the tories :joker::joker:

I still don't believe these polls.

I can't see the Cons down in the lower 20s.
I think more likely polling of Con 27/28 with Labour in the lower to mid 40s.

Substantial leads but not the 20+ ones.

Although IF I was wrong on that I'd be very pleased.

Do you think the current polling is right bots.

[bots]

I still don't believe these polls.

I can't see the Cons down in the lower 20s.
I think more likely polling of Con 27/28 with Labour in the lower to mid 40s.

Substantial leads but not the 20+ ones.

Although IF I was wrong on that I'd be very pleased.

Do you think the current polling is right bots.

i think its comfortably over 30 and Truss has just said that she will be leading the tories into the next election :laugh: I never thought it was going to go well with truss, but i couldn't have predicted all this in a million years :laugh:

[bots]

Liz Truss has insisted she will lead the Tories into the next general election, despite U-turns leaving her battling to salvage her authority.

The PM apologised for making mistakes, after the new chancellor Jeremy Hunt junked almost all of her tax-cutting plans to stabilise market turmoil.

She added her month-old premiership "hasn't been perfect," but she had "fixed" mistakes.

And she said it would have been "irresponsible" not to change course.

In an interview with the BBC, she said she was still committed to boosting UK economic growth, but acknowledged it would now take longer to achieve.

"I remain committed to the vision, but we will have to deliver that in a different way," she said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63293891

[arista]

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[arista]

The Online Paper:

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[arista]

When Truss Marched into
Parliament with Jeremy Hunt
she had been meeting the 1922 Committee.

While seated she had to keep blinking hard
to stay awake.


She lacks proper sleep
it appears.

[bots]

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[Gusto Brunt]

When Truss Marched into
Parliament with Jeremy Hunt
she had been meeting the 1922 Committee.

While seated she had to keep blinking hard
to stay awake.


She lacks proper sleep
it appears.
:joker:

This woman just gets worse and worse. But I was sitting there in anger when I saw her being interviewed by the BBC. That woman stands for nothing. Just GO!! :fist:

[bots]

hunt, who got booted out in the first round of the leadership contest and is therefore not liked at all by the majority of tory mp's is now the de facto PM. So the reality is that Truss is PM in name only and we now have someone who lost the leadership election convincingly in charge of the country

The political mess is unprecedented

[joeysteele]

When Truss Marched into
Parliament with Jeremy Hunt
she had been meeting the 1922 Committee.

While seated she had to keep blinking hard
to stay awake.


She lacks proper sleep
it appears.

That would carry more weight had she not come to parliament at all .

What was the point of her there with Hunt.
She neither said or did NOTHING.

No appearance for an urgent question to the Prime Minister from the Opposition leader.
She made NO contribution whatsoever to the Chancellor's statement.

She is supposed to be the leader of the Con Party and leader of the UK.
Yesterday she was more like a spectator on serious issues.

It's said Margaret Thatcher only slept for 5 to 6 hours possibly.
Truss is in the position of the highest office in the land.

I'm more concerned for those with extra mortgages to find, who can't sleep thinking how they keep their homes and provide adequately for their families.
Her apology now for adding to their already intense stress comes across as a forced and hollow one.

She's an absolute disgrace and hopeless.
I haven't an ounce of sympathy for Truss, she should NEVER have been even thought of as a PM, and certainly never elected by Con party members to become PM.

[bots]

The astonishing thing is that the tories are deeply unpopular now, before they have announced the £40 billion cuts to public services in a couple of weeks. This is only just beginning

[arista]

:joker:

This woman just gets worse and worse. But I was sitting there in anger when I saw her being interviewed by the BBC. That woman stands for nothing. Just GO!! :fist:


Yes she did them in Downing Street
after a rest.


She has said sorry,
but of course the Damage in the markets
is not reversed.


Just more stable now in J.Hunt's money changes

[arista]

The astonishing thing is that the tories are deeply unpopular now, before they have announced the £40 billion cuts to public services in a couple of weeks. This is only just beginning

Yes the Cuts
and also holding back on projects
Will make even more hate them.

[bots]

i heard someone say this morning .... levelling down :laugh:

[arista]

Cartoon for Joey

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[joeysteele]

Cartoon for Joey

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I think my dislike for statues is pretty much well known on here.
However she'd be of probably more use as one.

Because she's useless and hopeless now.

[bots]

she would be better disguised as a slice of bread because she is toast

[bots]

Do you believe me now Joey?



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Boris has a better rating than **** or truss :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Do you believe me now Joey?



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Boris has a better rating than **** or truss :laugh:

Oh I want to believe your take on this fully.:joker:

I'm naturally cautious but that polling says a great deal.
Thank you for posting it.

[Zizu]

55% of Tory members want Truss to resign … Boris Johnson is the person the Tory members want to replace Truss !!


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[Zizu]

Told you Hunt was an imbecile


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[arista]

55% of Tory members want Truss to resign … Boris Johnson is the person the Tory members want to replace Truss !!



Dumb picking Johnson
That is why Truss is Still the Prime Minister



Defence Secretary Ben Wallace MP
will resign if his budget is changed

That's all
so far.

[arista]

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[Zizu]

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The oldies will protest !!


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[arista]

The oldies will protest !!




Of course.

[joeysteele]

Of course.

IF, she and Hunt do this then it must surely be the final nail in this government's coffin.
AND ...... it should be too.

[bots]

i will be voting labour at the next election .... there's something i thought i would never say

[MTVN]

The thing is Hunt frames these cuts now as absolutely necessary and unavoidable, it's just being 'responsible'. Yet nothing on this scale was talked about until now - literally less than a week ago Truss said there'd be no cuts to public spending. I know Boris planned to shrink the civil service but nothing compared to the cuts being talked about now. Why should anyone believe that this is the only way to do things and why should anyone embrace it when times are bad enough as it is

[MTVN]

i will be voting labour at the next election .... there's something i thought i would never say

Christ I might even join you

[bots]

The thing is Hunt frames these cuts now as absolutely necessary and unavoidable, it's just being 'responsible'. Yet nothing on this scale was talked about until now - literally less than a week ago Truss said there'd be no cuts to public spending. I know Boris planned to shrink the civil service but nothing compared to the cuts being talked about now. Why should anyone believe that this is the only way to do things and why should anyone embrace it when times are bad enough as it is

The BoE spent billions propping up pension funds for 2 weeks. Thats why we now need cuts on the scale we do now. This is all as a direct result of Truss and Kwasi ... and she is still PM and the tories are still in power

[joeysteele]

There's a nagging part of me has me almost believing the Cons may want to lose the next election.
I'm still fairly sure that couldn't be the case though.

[bots]

There's a nagging part of me has me almost believing the Cons may want to lose the next election.
I'm still fairly sure that couldn't be the case though.

there is a reason the big guns still left in the party kept their heads down at the leadership election. They know now is not the time

[arista]

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The Online Paper:

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[arista]

SkyNews Text :
[Liz Truss is facing cabinet unrest over her
plans for "brutal" public spending cuts across
all departments after the "disastrous"
mini-budget put major pledges at risk,
including the pensions 'triple lock',
The Guardian reports.]

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[arista]

Sky News text:
[New chancellor Jeremy Hunt is preparing to delay
Boris Johnson's social care reform and has been warned
his spending cuts may have to be tougher even
than George Osborne's era of austerity,
reports The Times, which says the cap on the sum
people pay for care in old age is set
to be put back by a year or more.]

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[bots]

100 letters of no confidence have already been submitted :skull:

[Oliver_W]

100 letters of no confidence have already been submitted :skull:

Wait, that's more than 15% of sitting Tory MPs...

[bots]

Wait, that's more than 15% of sitting Tory MPs...

yep, but unless there is a rule change, she can't be challenged for a year

[Zizu]

yep, but unless there is a rule change, she can't be challenged for a year


I heard she will probably resign in the next few days or a rule change forcing her out will be made

It’s a done deal apparently


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[bots]

will she turn up for question time or hide under her desk :laugh:

It could be difficult for Starmer as he has to get the tone just right

[joeysteele]

will she turn up for question time or hide under her desk :laugh:

It could be difficult for Starmer as he has to get the tone just right

For Labours interests, I think he should relax and go easy on her in order to leave her maybe in place a bit longer.
As really she has to stand up today and give assurances to the total opposite of near ALL she said she was committed to last week.
A farce and even ridiculous in itself.

However for the Country, this waste of political space needs exposing for how hopeless she really is.
So he maybe should really go for it today.

I agree he has to get the tone right however.
Probably best to go through all she stated was right and what she was committed to just 7 days ago.
Which now is near all nonsense and reversed.

He could go on the rumours of the triple lock re pensions.
However all he will get there probably is ' wait for the Chancellor on the 31st'
However it's a strong issue which she must still have a view on as PM.

I laughed this morning when James ( not so) Cleverley
Said that in previous PMQs Truss had been shown to be on top of her brief.
What brief was that ????

[bots]

Cleverley is a lying twat. The way he was wriggling this morning was laughable and he is anything but clever

[Gusto Brunt]

Boris Johnson now 'favourite' to take over from Truss. :shocked:

The same Boris who was ousted a few months back. :D

Absolute nuts!

https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-19-2015/hl-J8q.gif

[bots]

what they are not mentioning is that when the energy help ends in April, it's going to push inflation through the roof. It will be 15-20%

[Oliver_W]

what they are not mentioning is that when the energy help ends in April, it's going to push inflation through the roof. It will be 15-20%

It's pathetic, the two year prize freeze was basically the only stick Truss had to beat Labour with.

[smudgie]

Truss has to go.
I really don’t want to vote for Kier Starmer to win, but rather him than the muppet ministers we have now.

[bots]

Truss has to go.
I really don’t want to vote for Kier Starmer to win, but rather him than the muppet ministers we have now.

That's you, me and MTVN voting labour, it's not a position i ever expected to be in, but here we are

[joeysteele]

Truss has to go.
I really don’t want to vote for Kier Starmer to win, but rather him than the muppet ministers we have now.

May I enquire smudgie please.

I really am heartened by the views of those more strongly identified possibly as Con supporters.
Even looking at Labour for the first time or again.
What is the line or lines crossed that has got you even considering same.

Plus what would you and others, even just possibly thinking of looking at Labour, like to hear from Starmer and Labour for the future election.
Which would really matter to you.

[arista]

That's you, me and MTVN voting labour, it's not a position i ever expected to be in, but here we are

New Labour, in a way

Not the Union one
or like Corbyn

[bots]

May I enquire smudgie please.

I really am heartened by the views of those more strongly identified possibly as Von supporters.
Even looking at Labour for the first time or again.
What is the line or lines crossed that has got you even considering same.

Plus what would you and others, even just possibly thinking of looking at Labour, like to hear from Starmer and Labour for the future election.
Which would really matter to you.

i always knew Truss was going to be bad, but she has outright lied already to parliament and we are a month in. It was because Boris lied to parliament that i wanted him to go and Truss needs to do the same. Apart from that she is saying she is listening, but when were her and her cabinet supporters listening when every financial authority worth its salt said don't do this, it will be a disaster.

The harsh cuts we are now facing are as a direct result of the BoE having to step in and spend billions over the last couple of weeks for her and the tory parties mistakes. Thats just not good enough

[arista]

"was going to be bad,"



Did she have a bad smell?

[smudgie]

May I enquire smudgie please.

I really am heartened by the views of those more strongly identified possibly as Con supporters.
Even looking at Labour for the first time or again.
What is the line or lines crossed that has got you even considering same.

Plus what would you and others, even just possibly thinking of looking at Labour, like to hear from Starmer and Labour for the future election.
Which would really matter to you.

I have voted Labour in the past Joey.
My last three votes have gone to the Tories.
I look at the local candidates first, depending on who I trust the most to make my decision.
But we have to look at the bigger picture when it comes down to a general election and I could not vote for the government as it stands today.
Since Truss came in she has caused absolute havoc with the lives of people in this country, the mortgage rates and rent hikes won’t go away just because she thinks saying sorry will be ok.
Reversing all the tax cuts etc won’t change a lot in the long run.

[joeysteele]

i always knew Truss was going to be bad, but she has outright lied already to parliament and we are a month in. It was because Boris lied to parliament that i wanted him to go and Truss needs to do the same. Apart from that she is saying she is listening, but when were her and her cabinet supporters listening when every financial authority worth its salt said don't do this, it will be a disaster.

The harsh cuts we are now facing are as a direct result of the BoE having to step in and spend billions over the last couple of weeks for her and the tory parties mistakes. Thats just not good enough

Thank you bots and your last paragraph is a very strong one.

[joeysteele]

I have voted Labour in the past Joey.
My last three votes have gone to the Tories.
I look at the local candidates first, depending on who I trust the most to make my decision.
But we have to look at the bigger picture when it comes down to a general election and I could not vote for the government as it stands today.
Since Truss came in she has caused absolute havoc with the lives of people in this country, the mortgage rates and rent hikes won’t go away just because she thinks saying sorry will be ok.
Reversing all the tax cuts etc won’t change a lot in the long run.


I know you've floated in votes before smudgie.
Thank you for your response

I do recall I think your MP was James Wharton from our past conversations on here.
He was a really good MP.
So I understand the candidates part of your post.

The mortgage issue is one I am picking up from people I talk to.
A really worrying issue that will remain now for some likely considerable time.
Due to Truss absolutely.

Thank you again to both yourself and bots.

[arista]

The Prime Minister
has cancelled her visit to a UK Electronic company.

It was to has an
Answer and Questions from Press.
with that event


So maybe those nasty Press
scared her from going...........................

[arista]

6 Back benchers want her out
Officially, so far.

Sir Charles Walker,
Angela Richardson,
Jamie Wallis,
Andrew Bridgen
and Crispin Blunt.

and one other

[joeysteele]

The Prime Minister
has cancelled her visit to a UK Electronic company.

It was to has an
Answer and Questions from Press.
with that event


So maybe those nasty Press
scared her from going...........................


She'd be appearing likely nowhere then in any election campaign.
If she has developed an allergy to the press questioning her.

Useless ornament she is.
Pathetic.

[Cherie]

6 Back benchers want her out
Officially, so far.

Sir Charles Walker,
Angela Richardson,
Jamie Wallis,
Andrew Bridgen
and Crispin Blunt.

and one other

Gove has said she will be ousted soon

Cant come soon enough but it better not be Hunt who gets PM

[smudgie]

Gove has said she will be ousted soon

Cant come soon enough but it better not be Hunt who gets PM

Nooooo, the thought of Hunt as PM is a nightmare.

[Zizu]

Nooooo, the thought of Hunt as PM is a nightmare.


Agreed … another lilly-liveried slimeball


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Cherie]

Rishi should be instated end of

[arista]

Rishi should be instated end of


The Party is Split
on him.


So No

[joeysteele]

The Party is Split
on him.


So No

Well he was the better option of most of the candidates.

If I'd had a vote it would have been for Tom Tugendhat then Penny Mordaunt.
I'm now not sure what to think of Mordaunt.

Of the 2 in the run off I'd have chosen Sunak.
With Sunak the last weeks of dismal events wouldn't have likely happened.
Things would have been more stable.

Plus I don't think the polling would have gone to the scenario it's claimed they are now.

How anyone could look and listen to Truss and think there's even a possible PM material about her, is really beyond any rational understanding.

[arista]

Yes Joey

They need to find a New Leader
they can put in fast

Maybe tell them, give Penny , a go?

Until then
Truss stays

[joeysteele]

Yes Joey

They need to find a New Leader
they can put in fast

Maybe tell them, give Penny , a go?

Until then
Truss stays


They shouldn't put ANYONE in FAST.
That would be insulting to the electorate.

As I said, I'm now not sure on Mordaunt unfortunately.

[arista]

They shouldn't put ANYONE in FAST.
That would be insulting to the electorate.

As I said, I'm now not sure on Mordaunt unfortunately.


Thats the only way.

The Electorate can wait for the General Election

Tough Times Joey

[arista]

100 years ago today
at the Carlton Club

They got rid of that PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlton_Club_meeting

[arista]

Graham Brady MP has stated
he would need half of the MP's for any
rule change.


SkyNewsHD.

[arista]

Chief Whip has resigned
Wendy Morton


Ch4HDnews Live in Parliament


And the Deputy Chief Whip has also Resigned
Craig Whittaker

[bots]

Deja vu

[arista]

2023 Local Elections

Trouble Ahead,

[UserSince2005]

It’s a disgrace the media have decided that labour will be the in power with their impartial language. If labour get into power it’s not what the gbp want it whats the bbc wants. They have never given Liz a chance. Good luck kier Starman you’ll be done in a couple of month too.

[UserSince2005]

We should still have Boris. He should have never been bullied out by dirty media scum

[UserSince2005]

So are we just going to pretend that BBC have not just been reporting for the past 2 hours that the chief whip has resigned when she actually hasn’t!
The confusion and chaos seeems to be in the bbc news room

[joeysteele]

Absolute total farce of a government led by a gross incompetent.
That's 3 incompetent leaders in a row.
Shocking all through however as to this one Truss.

In her short spell already, her delusion has affected, the Nation, individual people's lives with heavier financial burdens and also impacted on her Party too.

I really hope the vast majority of decent voters do now realise the only way to get this absolute shambles out is to vote for the only real Party that can beat them in this awful electoral system.
That's Labour.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-943fa378-d151-40e1-ad1a-597ab7e54c50.jpeg

[UserSince2005]

Absolute total farce of a government led by a gross incompetent.
That's 3 incompetent leaders in a row.
Shocking all through however as to this one Truss.

In her short spell already, her delusion has affected, the Nation, individual people's lives with heavier financial burdens and also impacted on her Party too.

I really hope the vast majority of decent voters do now realise the only way to get this absolute shambles out is to vote for the only real Party that can beat them in this awful electoral system.
That's Labour.

Lol if you think labour will fair better. Give em two months and the bbc will want their heads on a platter too

[joeysteele]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-943fa378-d151-40e1-ad1a-597ab7e54c50.jpeg

I couldn't help but smile at that picture on the Star.

It actually makes her look better.:joker:

[joeysteele]

Graham Brady MP has stated
he would need half of the MP's for any
rule change.


SkyNewsHD.

I'd guess he may not be far from that figure.

[arista]

I'd guess he may not be far from that figure.

BBC2HD Newsnight 10:30PM
last night had 1922 committee member
David Simmonds MP

He has spoken with Liz Truss PM
and he is willing to let her carry on.
I do not think Brady has half of the MP's
to achieve a rule change.

I record Newsnight every night
it is an update after Live Ch4HDnews 7PM - 8PM
in Westminster.

Best to get News updates
from many solid sources

I have SkyNewsHD on 24/7
on a 22" LED
3-D TV
(Can still watch 3-D BluRay Movies
in that cool Finlux LED 1080P TV)

Also Times Radio Live Online
And LBC Live on a DAB with a wired speaker
to turn off any ads.

[bots]

i heard that she would be gone this morning, lets see whose right :laugh:

[joeysteele]

i heard that she would be gone this morning, lets see whose right :laugh:

I think you are nearer correct.

[arista]

No,
why would she go now?

[arista]

BBC stop showing Sir Charles Walker MP clip

He is Standing Down at the next election

Not a Sound View to have

[arista]

Kay Burley SkyNewsHD
is stupid being outside 10 Downing St.

As the Rain is all morning

[bots]

No,
why would she go now?

because she cannot continue

[arista]

because she cannot continue


She still has a Majority

Talk Sense, for once

[arista]

1582704961070456832

[Gusto Brunt]

because she cannot continue

:D

[arista]

1582814264590405632

[bots]

She still has a Majority

Talk Sense, for once

you are the one talking absolute nonsense, she will be gone. I know you love her, but face reality she doesnt have the support of her own mp's or anyone else

[arista]

you are the one talking absolute nonsense, she will be gone. I know you love her, but face reality she doesnt have the support of her own mp's or anyone else


I do not Love her

You said Today - That is Bonkers


At this time right now
The Prime Minister has a Majority

[Kazanne]

Its like school kids in a playground, infact if it were kids we would be up in arms about her being bullied, how childish to liken her to a lettuce and we are supposed to be adults and take this seriously, she may not be a "good" leader and should go but why the need for press and media to be so mean, whatever happened to #Bekind ? I will not be voting at all next time, Conservatives need a break to get their act together, but no one else is offering anything more. The press and media are vile, but there again always have been.

[Gusto Brunt]

I do not Love her

You said Today - That is Bonkers


At this time right now
The Prime Minister has a Majority


Arista, I know. You're always playing Devil's Advocate. :D

[arista]

Its like school kids in a playground, infact if it were kids we would be up in arms about her being bullied, how childish to liken her to a lettuce and we are supposed to be adults and take this seriously, she may not be a "good" leader and should go but why the need for press and media to be so mean, whatever happened to #Bekind ? I will not be voting at all next time, Conservatives need a break to get their act together, but no one else is offering anything more. The press and media are vile, but there again always have been.

#Bekind UK
Started in 2015
https://www.bekindmovement.co.uk/


Yes, it has,
Vanished.

[arista]

Arista, I know. You're always playing Devil's Advocate. :D


Yes but you know
she is staying there
until her Majority has gone.


And all we have is whispers.


I deal in Facts
not some Snotty Radio 4 report

[Cherie]

Its like school kids in a playground, infact if it were kids we would be up in arms about her being bullied, how childish to liken her to a lettuce and we are supposed to be adults and take this seriously, she may not be a "good" leader and should go but why the need for press and media to be so mean, whatever happened to #Bekind ? I will not be voting at all next time, Conservatives need a break to get their act together, but no one else is offering anything more. The press and media are vile, but there again always have been.

I am not a fan of the media bullying they should report facts end of, but it is the Daily Star after all

[bots]

1583010347505459202

[arista]

Kemi MP,
Cabinet Member
backing her PM

Staying in her Job

BBC Door stepped her

[joeysteele]

It shouldn't surprise anyone that gross Truss would be hard to get to resign.

To hold onto her Ministerial position and salary she'd never have resigned no matter what he did or how bad Johnson was or got to.
Even when promoting a sexual predator like Pincher.

So her morals were always questionable.
Now shown to have very little or none at all.

So no surprise she'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming to clear off.
Hopeless, useless and pathetic is what she is.

[arista]

Joey

Kemi is the Conservative Cabinet
she supports Truss.
Confirmed this morning


Johnson left his job
as his Cabinet
top 2 left

[arista]

Yet another Urgent Question From Poxy Labour


Parliament Live

Takes Starmer at the TUC Live, off the screen

[Crimson Dynamo]

1583010347505459202

how could any sane adult say they had high hopes for Truss?

anyone who has watched her abysmal performances on camera in the last 3 months must have realized she was incompetent.

[joeysteele]

Joey

Kemi is the Conservative Cabinet
she supports Truss.
Confirmed this morning


Johnson left his job
as his Cabinet
top 2 left

I couldn't care what Kemi Badenoch or other Cabinet Ministers say.
They are on an act of deceit to the Country saying they suppport the Prime Minister.
There are those still in Cabinet who also declared their so called firm support for Johnson until he was OUT.

They go with the wind not where they should be going or really get to.

This PM has sacked her Chancellor for doing ALL she wanted and told him to.
Plus she's lost her Home secretary.

Of course Cabinet Ministers will say they support Truss, they don't know if they could hold their ministerial positions under any further NEW leader.

This is shocking for the Country that we've now had in the last year alone now 2 Con leaders, ( when gross Truss finally does go), who should have been forced out or gone long before they did go.
It's like a soap opera shambolic farce now, nothing like a competent in any way government.
Absolute chaos.

[joeysteele]

how could any sane adult say they had high hopes for Truss?

anyone who has watched her abysmal performances on camera in the last 3 months must have realized she was incompetent.

Totally agree with you LT.
All the way on that.

[Gusto Brunt]

how could any sane adult say they had high hopes for Truss?

anyone who has watched her abysmal performances on camera in the last 3 months must have realized she was incompetent.

Yes, some of us did she was a complete incompetent fool, months back. Even before she was nominated.

But the day after she was elected, Talk TV's Kevin O'Sullivan was on Twitter saying she was gonna be a great PM.:shocked:

He had something like 2,700 likes for that comment. I posted a reply saying he was basically wrong and she'd be an utter disaster. Not one upthumb for my comment.

To yesterday, Kevin O'Sullivan was on Talk TV saying Truss must go. Unbelieveable. :joker:

[bots]

the number of tory mps publicly calling for her to resign goes up by the minute

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/19/23/63653667-11334127-image-a-56_1666219007874.jpg

Back in fashion
Cheap food

due to the governments Mess

[Oliver_W]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/19/23/63653667-11334127-image-a-56_1666219007874.jpg

Back in fashion
Cheap food

due to the governments Mess

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-n6iKTvI207o/WyJP95fu9ZI/AAAAAAAALMw/lcq_bwvcXa4hK9aI8O5cQh1QJ0lMaq7DACLcBGAs/s1600/giphy.gif

[bots]

truss is currently meeting Brady

[arista]

truss is currently meeting Brady


how nice

[arista]

https://www.simplystacie.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/blueberry-tea-cake-2-1.jpg


Tea and cake with Brady

[Crimson Dynamo]

She is gone

f me

SHAMBLES

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/20/11/63669081-11335257-image-a-58_1666261903979.jpg

Last night two Press called you
The C Word Not Hunt.


Ch4HDnews Krishnan Guru-Murthy

ITV1 Peston Robert Peston

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/20/09/63648403-11335257-image-m-56_1666254666035.jpg


Last Night
sorting the Voting out.


Or Bullying a few Conservatives

[bots]

Brady is using the back door

[arista]

bBIo42ws57s

[Oliver_W]

Brady is using the back door

Another gay scandal...

[arista]

Brady is using the back door


Yes, The Prime Minister called the Meeting
Jake Berry MP joined in.

[bots]

downing street statement at 1:30

[GiRTh]

Range rovers and a Jag parked outside number 10.

Is Liz Truss about to resign?

[bots]

Range rovers and a Jag parked outside number 10.

Is Liz Truss about to resign?

i think its a certainty

[GiRTh]

i think its a certainty:laugh::laugh:
She will have the shortest term in history.

[arista]

Yes a Fighter

[GiRTh]

What happens next?Surely can't have another leadership battle. We need a general to sort it all out

[Crimson Dynamo]

'PM to resign'
Beth Rigby, the political editor of Sky News, has just reported that she has been told that Liz Truss is about announce that she is going to resign.

A No 10 source told her "it is all over".

[GiRTh]

Here we go

[arista]

Truss LIVE now

[bots]

Truss resigns

[Crimson Dynamo]

will she say "deliver"

lol

[The Slim Reaper]

:laugh::laugh:
She will have the shortest term in history.

Shorter than the election campaign that put her in post :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Am I too late to choose chaos with Ed Miliband?

[bots]

i heard that she would be gone this morning, lets see whose right :laugh:

She still has a Majority

Talk Sense, for once

I will take your apology now Arista

[arista]

The King was notified

Leadership Election ONE WEEK ONLY


Truss stays there
until the next PM takes over

[Gusto Brunt]

She looked relieved. To be fair, she was totally unsuitable.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bring back Ted Heath!

[Gusto Brunt]

Sunak or Mordaunt. :D

[smudgie]

No other option really.

[arista]

I will take your apology now Arista


I apologise to you bitontheslide,
for being so rude.


It was Danny Kruger MP
that inspired me
on GMBHD itv

[GiRTh]

Shorter than the election campaign that put her in post :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[bots]

Am I too late to choose chaos with Ed Miliband?

Strong and stable :fist:

[The Slim Reaper]

I apologise to you bitontheslide,
for being so rude.


It was Danny Kruger MP
that inspired me
on GMBHD itv

You don't need to apologise. Bots should really be apologising to you for treating you seriously, when you are always wrong :smug:

[arista]

You don't need to apologise. Bots should really be apologising to you for treating you seriously, when you are always wrong :smug:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdzZ6AQWQAUT82h?format=jpg&name=small

[bots]

I apologise to you bitontheslide,
for being so rude.


It was Danny Kruger MP
that inspired me
on GMBHD itv

It's all good fun Arista, i'm pulling your leg :laugh:

[GiRTh]

don't like this one-week leadership election. Call a General

[bots]

don't like this one-week leadership election. Call a General

it wont matter what leader they pick, they are going to get wiped out

[arista]

It's all good fun Arista, i'm pulling your leg :laugh:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd1jQSbXkAQZsDL?format=jpg&name=small

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdzZ6AQWQAUT82h?format=jpg&name=small

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/444/486/f5a.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

And we go up to Holyrood where we can get Nicola STurgeon's reaction to the shock news...

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/09/09/2976A8F300000578-3116396-Miss_Sturgeon_laughed_when_asked_about_what_is_in_ haggis_and_why-m-15_1433837755767.jpg

[GiRTh]

it wont matter what leader they pick, they are going to get wiped out
If they call a general now...yes. I fear they will run out the clock till 2024 and due to Labour's lack of a spine, they might lose with Labour gaining a slim majority.

CAll a General now so Tories get wiped out in the commons.:laugh::laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffg3mYZWQAEA841?format=jpg&name=small

[The Slim Reaper]

I'll always be grateful to her for the speed at which she killed the queen.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'll always be grateful to her for the speed at which she killed the queen.

she served as PM under 2 monarchs - not many can say that!

[arista]

I'll always be grateful to her for the speed at which she killed the queen.


Yes Bad luck

On her handshake of death.

[arista]

Hunt is staying Solid in his Job.

[bots]

She was in power for 44 days. If the queen hadn't died it would have been 30

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that all she could say was "Deliver, deliver, deliver" and failed to so so, so badly is somewhat ironic today as the postmen are on strike

:skull:

[The Slim Reaper]

she served as PM under 2 monarchs - not many can say that!

This little guy remains undefeated

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffg2A2zXoAAerCC?format=jpg&name=small

[bots]

The pressure to call an election will be enormous. No way they can go 2 years, the max they will get away with is a year

[Swan]

Liz Truss will be entitled to claim up to £115,000 per year from the taxpayer for the rest of her life once she leaves office, despite likely being one of the shortest-serving prime ministers in history.

Link (https://www.nationalworld.com/news/politics/public-duties-cost-allowance-liz-truss-will-be-able-to-claim-up-to-ps115000-per-year-to-maintain-public-duties-after-leaving-office-3882642)

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iW7cM3OeB60o/v1/1200x800.jpg

[arista]

The pressure to call an election will be enormous. No way they can go 2 years, the max they will get away with is a year


No new leader in a week

Is Fab.


Starmer can PISS OFF

[bots]

She was always going to be a disaster, i just can't fathom how she won the leadership election

[arista]

She was always going to be a disaster, i just can't fathom how she won the leadership election


The Conservative Party Members wanted a White person
sadly

[The Slim Reaper]

She was always going to be a disaster, i just can't fathom how she won the leadership election

Was always a terrible choice. Rishi is an austerity hawk himself.

[arista]

£1 is now at $1.12

[The Slim Reaper]

The Conservative Party Members wanted a White person
sadly

What is a different way that you could say this? :smug:

[GoldHeart]

She's actually resigned?!?? ,That whole party is a BIG FAT JOKE.

She was in power 5 minutes :skull: :bored: .

[arista]

1583081993306517505

[GiRTh]

£1 is now at $1.12
Has she crashed the pound again?

[Oliver_W]

I'll always be grateful to her for the speed at which she killed the queen.

Scary time for people call Liz :hehe:

[arista]

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