New Prime Minister aged 42, Rishi Sunak : Oct 2022

[arista]

Has she crashed the pound again?

A little

[joeysteele]

Good riddance.

[bots]

Its going to be Rishi thats picked, he has the most support among mp's and he kept his mouth shut during all this mess

[Swan]

A company needs to make some Truss masks immediately. They'll make a killing for halloween

[arista]

Bring back Ted Heath!


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Edward_Heath_monument.jpg/900px-Edward_Heath_monument.jpg?20070821100424

[Denver]

There has to be a general election, how can the public have faith in a party where there own members have not had faith in a leader in about 10 years

[arista]

There has to be a general election, how can the public have faith in a party where there own members have not had faith in a leader in about 10 years

NO
only the UK Prime Minister
calls that



Not you.

[GoldHeart]

There has to be a general election, how can the public have faith in a party where there own members have not had faith in a leader in about 10 years

Exactly
The conservatives need to be BOOTED out ,12 years we've put up with their garbage & their false promises . Things have gotten so terrible now ... It's utter embarrassment .

[James]

She was always going to be a disaster, i just can't fathom how she won the leadership election

I called it before she got made PM - https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11192331&postcount=967

The problem is what she was proposing - low tax, smaller state - is just not where the country's head space is at this point in time, after two years of the pandemic and everything else.

I said also back then that the system they used for electing a new leader (and Prime Minister) was wrong - should have only been MPs that made the decision.

People who join political parties are ideological - in the case of Conservatives they want a smaller state. The general public however is mostly pragmatic - they just want whatever works to be done, and MPs represent the people who elect them.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/20/13/63672845-11336361-image-a-42_1666270542522.jpg

Loyal Husband

[GiRTh]

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

If they called an election now, Tories would end up with fewer seats than SNP

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/20/08/63664683-11335127-image-a-16_1666251710334.jpg

[bots]

i can see there being a GE within 3 months ... i called it first :laugh:

[arista]

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

If they called an election now, Tories would end up with fewer seats than SNP


Chris Hope
called it the same as 1997

[arista]

i can see there being a GE within 3 months ... i called it first :laugh:


NO

[bots]

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

If they called an election now, Tories would end up with fewer seats than SNP

yes, they would be down to a handful and the SNP would be the official opposition :laugh:

[James]

Odds from Bet 365 for next permanent 'Next Permanent Conservative Party Leader'. There is different odds for 'Next Prime Minister After Liz Truss. :s

Rishi Sunak 4/6
Penny Mordaunt 6/4
Ben Wallace 10/1
Boris Johnson 12/1

[Denver]

Odds from Bet 365 for next permanent 'Next Permanent Conservative Party Leader'. There is different odds for 'Next Prime Minister After Liz Truss. :s

Rishi Sunak 4/6
Penny Mordaunt 6/4
Ben Wallace 10/1
Boris Johnson 12/1
Because of how quick they want the new Prime minister in i feel they will have a Richie vs Penny h2h seeing as they finished in the top 3 last time

[bots]

isn't it amazing that a guy who lied to parliament and was thrown out is back in the mix :joker:

[bots]

Because of how quick they want the new Prime minister in i feel they will have a Richie vs Penny h2h seeing as they finished in the top 3 last time

no, it will be 1 person only, otherwise the rules state it has to go to the membership

[GiRTh]

isn't it amazing that a guy who lied to parliament and was thrown out is back in the mix :joker:Its incredible. Why do the public fall for the same thing over and over again? :laugh:

[James]

Odds from Bet 365 for next permanent 'Next Permanent Conservative Party Leader'. There is different odds for 'Next Prime Minister After Liz Truss. :s

Rishi Sunak 4/6
Penny Mordaunt 6/4
Ben Wallace 10/1
Boris Johnson 12/1

Also noticed the bookmakers have Labour only slightly better than 50-50 to win a majority at the next election.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/government-after-the-next-general-election

[Cherie]

If Bojo throws his hat in the ring it will be the icing on the cake lol

[Denver]

Charles only in the job for a few weeks already has to elect his first prime minister

[James]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/20/13/63672845-11336361-image-a-42_1666270542522.jpg

Loyal Husband

I wondered who that was. Apparently if Liz Truss used her first name and her married name she would be called Mary O'Leary.

[Denver]

If Bojo throws his hat in the ring it will be the icing on the cake lol

Honestly Penny is the only person who can save the tories but either how I just can't see them beating Labour

[arista]

Odds from Bet 365 for next permanent 'Next Permanent Conservative Party Leader'. There is different odds for 'Next Prime Minister After Liz Truss. :s

Rishi Sunak 4/6
Penny Mordaunt 6/4
Ben Wallace 10/1
Boris Johnson 12/1

Silly
as Ben does not want that job.

And Johnson is not wanted
by enough
However
The Times Newspaper says Johnson will run!

[Cherie]

Its incredible. Why do the public fall for the same thing over and over again? :laugh:

The public haven’t had any say since 2019?

[GoldHeart]

https://i.postimg.cc/4xwmYgw8/35b12d4b-0b23-4987-b469-c37c13dfed8c.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

We love a revolving door at downing Street :hee:

[arista]

The public haven’t had any say since 2019?


Yes that's fine


I never Voted Pathetic New Labour Brown in.

[Denver]

The Times are saying Boris Johnson will stand for Party Leadership

[arista]

Friday Oct 28th New Leader
to be annouced

[bots]

The Times are reporting that Boris will stand in the leadership election

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[arista]

The Times are saying Boris Johnson will stand for Party Leadership

Yes
less money though,
than his USA tour

[Redway]

This actually isn’t good. Ouch.

[joeysteele]

The Times are reporting that Boris will stand in the leadership election

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

Good grief the farce has potential to get even worse.

[GoldHeart]

The Times are reporting that Boris will stand in the leadership election

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

Ridiculous if true !

[Crimson Dynamo]

Iv just been out with the dog

WHo is the PM now?

[The Slim Reaper]

There has been so much sh1t since he resigned, that folks have probably forgotten the scandal after scandal, law breaking Johnson regime.

[The Slim Reaper]

Iv just been out with the dog

WHo is the PM now?

It's yours if you want it.

[Gusto Brunt]

I wonder if the new PM will keep the currenct Chancellor, or sack him?! :D

[GoldHeart]

Seriously how can anyone STILL support the Tories ,or have any shred of faith in them !?? .

This is pathetic ,we had Boris & his many shambles & rule breaking,and now Truss quitting after saying "I'm a fighter not a quitter" :skull: :facepalm: .

[bots]

if the leader is Rishi, he will already have a financial plan which could be very different from Mr ****

[bots]

the reality is that they are unlikely to come to an agreement on anyone

[arista]

I wonder if the new PM will keep the currenct Chancellor, or sack him?! :D


Keep Him


As the markets
like him

[bots]

lets consider the positives, the first thing the new PM will do is sack the health secretary

[arista]

lets consider the positives, the first thing the new PM will do is sack the health secretary


Yes that
makes sense

[Crimson Dynamo]

DM readers want Boris back!

[arista]

DM readers want Boris back!


Yes and a few MPs

But he has not yet said
he will run.

[bots]

DM readers want Boris back!

they would, wouldn't they :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Just heard on our news "The British Taoiseach has resigned" :fan:

[joeysteele]

lets consider the positives, the first thing the new PM will do is sack the health secretary

Absolutely YES, from me to that.

[GoldHeart]

DM readers want Boris back!

Ew gross

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffhiw29WIAEwwNR?format=jpg&name=small

[Liam-]

What a sad state of affairs that a man who resigned in shame could possibly get the job back

[bots]

there are so many waring factions within the party that they can't possibly go 2 years without another bust up

[UserSince2005]

Boris back please, first thing he should do is defund the BBC and jail twatty journalists.

[arista]

Boris back please, first thing he should do is defund the BBC and jail twatty journalists.


He is making Mega Cash
in the USA
speaking tour.



He has not bothered to say he will run again.

[arista]

Brady NOW LIVE


with Jake Berry

[Zizu]

He is making Mega Cash
in the USA
speaking tour.



He has not bothered to say he will run again.


If I were Boris I’d tell the Tories to F off ..


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[arista]

Threshold of 100 MP's

should keep Johnson out


Brady confirmed

[arista]

BBC1HD Question Time LIVE 8PM


Tonight

[Zizu]

Bloody hell

Just when you thought things were bad ..

Angela Rayner


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[bots]

100 nominations required to enter the contest ... by monday

[Zizu]

Classic Rayner

“ They’ve done more U turns than a cul de sac “


????


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[Zizu]

100 nominations required to enter the contest ... by monday


What if nobody gets close to that number ?


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[bots]

What if nobody gets close to that number ?


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rishi got 130 in the last contest, penny got > 100

[arista]

Extra Addition to the LIVE 8PM BBC1HD QT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfhYRDjaEAA9SnX?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

100 nominations required to enter the contest ... by monday



Yes makes good sense

[Zizu]

Why are they planning to announce the new PM by next Friday ?

Didn’t the last one take about 4 weeks ?


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[Zizu]

rishi got 130 in the last contest, penny got > 100


Fair enough


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[arista]

Why are they planning to announce the new PM by next Friday ?

Didn’t the last one take about 4 weeks ?




Simple to STOP labour having a General Election


Because this is Fast
Labour can get STUFFED

[UserSince2005]

Classic Rayner

“ They’ve done more U turns than a cul de sac “


????


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than her council estate more like.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfhX7YNXoAAM9kE?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

They need to Sweep up all the leaves
in Downing Street.


Disgrace

[bots]

Why are they planning to announce the new PM by next Friday ?

Didn’t the last one take about 4 weeks ?


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it was 8 weeks or more i believe and look what that achieved :laugh:

[MTVN]

Big Dog is coming home!

[Cherie]

Just heard on our news "The British Taoiseach has resigned" :fan:

:laugh:

[Cherie]

Big Dog is coming home!

Nothing would surprise me now, he was probably ‘advising’ Liz all along

[Crimson Dynamo]

is it a bird?

Is it a plane?


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/03/article-2182965-1453AD23000005DC-394_634x792.jpg


....

[arista]

BBC1 News One hour

So Local News now 7PM BBC1

[Zizu]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffg0FfzXwAEByf-?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffg0FfzXwAEByf-?format=jpg&name=small

The local pussy getting briefed about the Big Dog return?

[Gusto Brunt]

Truss will get a reported £128,000 per year 'EX-PM pension' on top of other perks.

Surely she should not get a penny!:fist:

[joeysteele]

Truss will get a reported £128,000 per year 'EX-PM pension' on top of other perks.

Surely she should not get a penny!:fist:

It is obscene when you think about it.

[Zizu]

Truss will get a reported £128,000 per year 'EX-PM pension' on top of other perks.

Surely she should not get a penny!:fist:


This country is balmy


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[Dogeatdog]

Cj8awpgK928

[thesheriff443]

Truss will get a reported £128,000 per year 'EX-PM pension' on top of other perks.

Surely she should not get a penny!:fist:

If it’s in the contract she should get it, no different to football managers who get paid millions after being sacked early into their contracts

[joeysteele]

Well there can really only be a maximum of 3 candidates on Monday.
With needing 100 nominations.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-365dd7d3-0a98-4f09-a632-b7695e2b4f1b.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-4595dd8b-f0e0-4bd8-9a03-d0adc0e7c61a.jpeg

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-25168f84-1aab-4be0-9674-64d2fe10d5af.png

[GoldHeart]

Can you imagine if a regular Joe quit his job at a supermarket ,or factory after 44 days !!! . They would get nothing in their bank balance! :bored: . madness really.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-a75d84ab-2709-403a-806e-88f138f78f94.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3a7bdda1-9ad5-4db4-be9f-9d5b79be9f20.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-006fe4e6-8459-471e-8f6c-2d9d11b60edb.png

[bots]

Truss will get a reported £128,000 per year 'EX-PM pension' on top of other perks.

Surely she should not get a penny!:fist:

All mp's get a handsome pension for life, even if they serve in parliament for 1 day

[arista]

If only One of the 3 gets 100 nominations
on Monday - then they will win on Monday

Which could be better

Conclude on Monday

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/21/01/63700047-0-image-a-26_1666312472160.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11338693/Boris-plots-Churchillian-return-No10-hits-50-MP-backers-bid-replace-Liz-Truss.html

[bots]

i'm sure the 100 minimum was to try and make sure Boris didn't make the cut

[bots]

scratch that, those in the know say that boris has 140 nailed on nominations :skull:

all i can do is :joker:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfjHbOsXkAIMDHb?format=jpg&name=small

so far after 9 hours

[Gusto Brunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfjHbOsXkAIMDHb?format=jpg&name=small

so far after 9 hours

:joker::joker:

[bots]

if boris were to win i think the tory party would implode, it may even implode if Rishi wins because there is so obviously an enormous split

[arista]

Starmer now Live on GMBHD itv

He calls it Utter Chaos

[Cherie]

I guarantee you Bojo will be back, bookmark me now

[joeysteele]

It is absolutely beyond belief the Country face the farce of the Cons allowing a wholly deceitful, lying rulebreaker and lawbreaker to even have the chance to come back.

His deceit and support for undesirables like sexual predators and other rulebreakers in his circle is how the Cons fell into disarray in the first place.

Just when you think surely the Cons have learned something and won't let the farce get even more damagingly farcical and WRONG.

It seems they maybe haven't learned anything and it can get even worse.

The Con members have to be excluded from this in my view.
What a chaotic mess.

Johnson was the start of the chaos by his own creation of it.

[Gusto Brunt]

It is absolutely beyond belief the Country face the farce of the Cons allowing a wholly deceitful, lying rulebreaker and lawbreaker to even have the chance to come back.

His deceit and support for undesirables like sexual predators and other rulebreakers in his circle is how the Cons fell into disarray in the first place.

Just when you think surely the Cons have learned something and won't let the farce get even more damagingly farcical and WRONG.

It seems they maybe haven't learned anything and it can get even worse.

The Con members have to be excluded from this in my view.
What a chaotic mess.

Johnson was the start of the chaos by his own creation of it.

I agree. But who'd have thought they'd pick an idiot like Truss.

[Gusto Brunt]

I guarantee you Bojo will be back, bookmark me now

:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

[arista]

I guarantee you Bojo will be back, bookmark me now

Yes he is in flight
returning early from
USA.


One Viewer stated it was not the Public
that got rid of him
it was the MP's


The political experts say
he can reach the 100 backing MP's
by Monday

[bots]

if it goes to the tory members and boris is in the mix, he will win

It's maybe for the best for Boris to win because at least half the mp's wont accept that and are talking about becoming independent mps. If that happens, boris has lost his majority and the tories will be thrown out with a vote of no confidence

[arista]

"Johnson was the start of the chaos by his own creation of it."


Yes Joey
but these 100 MP's say they like
he brought in Labour voters
in 2019


Lets hope
it is Done and Dusted
by 2PM Monday 24th of Oct

[joeysteele]

Well it appears there are a growing number of Con MPs who if Johnson does get back.
That they'd leave the Con whip and sit as Independents and some may even cross the floor.

So if the Cons really want further farce and Party and political chaos continuing, all they need to do is have the creep Johnson back.

His plummeting poll ratings and a strengthening opposition lead was part too of why he was turfed out.
If they want all the old mess and rulebreaking misleading and deceit.
Then yeah, get him back.

So much for a REALLY fresh start for and cleaning the Con Party and politics up.
No way does or CAN that happen with the odious creep Johnson.

[joeysteele]

"Johnson was the start of the chaos by his own creation of it."


Yes Joey
but these 100 MP's say they like
he brought in Labour voters
in 2019


Lets hope
it is Done and Dusted
by 2PM Monday 24th of Oct


Those votes were already being greatly lost because of his deceit and lawbreaking BEFORE he was forced out.

Not to dwell on the Pincher issue too.
Unbelievable.

[arista]

Those votes were already being greatly lost because of his deceit and lawbreaking BEFORE he was forced out.

Not to dwell on the Pincher issue too.
Unbelievable.


Yes they ignore Pincher
He is no longer a Conservative
now a Independent MP

https://www.christopherpincher.com/

[joeysteele]

Yes they ignore Pincher
He is no longer a Conservative
now a Independent MP

https://www.christopherpincher.com/

It's Johnson who promoted him to be a Con party whip.
Doesn't matter what Pincher is now.

It was by Johnson's judgement he got to higher status.

[arista]

It's Johnson who promoted him to be a Con party whip.
Doesn't matter what Pincher is now.

It was by Johnson's judgement he got to higher status.


Very True Joey


But they are ignoring all that
These Back Benchers are trouble

[arista]

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[bots]

i think its the end of the tory party as we know it. Even without Boris back they were going to implode, the fighting during the last vote shows where the party is. If Boris wins, all the Rishi supporters will make it as difficult as possible for the government to do anything.

I don't think Boris cares if people resign the whip, because he got shot of loads before the last election and won, and he will think he can do the same again. The only thing it will do is hasten a GE, but he is so confident in his election winning capability that wont phase him at all

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/10/21/TELEMMGLPICT000313501451_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqp FlyLIwiB6NTmJwcAO_1AV4S_o6oUUj5pfJc0.jpeg?imwidth= 1280

[joeysteele]

i think its the end of the tory party as we know it. Even without Boris back they were going to implode, the fighting during the last vote shows where the party is. If Boris wins, all the Rishi supporters will make it as difficult as possible for the government to do anything.

I don't think Boris cares if people resign the whip, because he got shot of loads before the last election and won, and he will think he can do the same again. The only thing it will do is hasten a GE, but he is so confident in his election winning capability that wont phase him at all


Interesting read that bots.
I agree too.

My Party's Labour but I know the importance of as strong government as can be with a strong opposition in place too.
Whichever party is in one or the other.

I can't see either with Johnson all I can see is a return to the sick pantomime scenario of at least over a year and a half ago again.

Once Johnson was OUT, I hoped for a better politics, with more consensus and a really fresh new beginning.
It didn't happen with Truss.

However now looking at any growing number in the Con party even considering looking backwards and not forward is desperately sad.

Imagine were Labour to even think of bringing back Corbyn.
The outcry from Cons and the media would be relentless and suffocating.

[MTVN]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2022/10/21/TELEMMGLPICT000313501451_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqp FlyLIwiB6NTmJwcAO_1AV4S_o6oUUj5pfJc0.jpeg?imwidth= 1280

Brilliant!

[MTVN]

Poll out this morning putting the Tories on 14%, 39 behind Labour :skull:

When Boris left they were 5 points behind. That's what a lot of MPs will be thinking about

[arista]

Poll out this morning putting the Tories on 14%, 39 behind Labour :skull:

When Boris left they were 5 points behind. That's what a lot of MPs will be thinking about


Yes 2PM Monday

[bots]

the opposition parties will have a meltdown if Boris returns, if it didn't affect us all it would be hilarious. It also leads the way for a Trump return

[arista]

the opposition parties will have a meltdown if Boris returns, if it didn't affect us all it would be hilarious. It also leads the way for a Trump return



how nice

[Kazanne]

If I were Boris I’d tell the Tories to F off ..


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Yes,me too Zizu, worst thing they did ,pushing him out.

[arista]

Any that want a General Election

Pauses our Parliament for 8 Weeks



That is wrong, at this time.

[bots]

It's almost inevitable that the GE will be early, i think the maximum time now would be 1 year, more likely May next year

[joeysteele]

There were various polls in July where Labour was more like 7 to 9% ahead .
Plus Johnson's approval rating had crashed strongly from May onwards.

Yougov had smaller leads for Labour.

I don't and never will believe the Cons could be on or below 20%

I haven't a clue what methodology pollsters are using at present but I don't think any party is or could be on or over 50% of votes for election.

That was never acheived even just from the 1900s starting.
Never ever.

At a time post war even when Labour and the Cons were taking around 95% of the votes cast between them.

To even think of bringing the odious, deceitful and deliberately misleading Johnson back would be an insult to the vast majority of the voters.
To even allow him to would be an insult to the vast majority of responsible not blinkered voters.

He and Truss must be the worst ever Prime Ministers the UK has had in modern democracy periods.

The fact the equally odious Rees-Mogg and Dorries support him speaks volumes.
The UK under this shambles of a government and the present Con party, really does look like it is likely losing its mind.

I still however don't believe the current polls.

[arista]

"an insult to the vast majority of the voters."


Its more 50/50
like in USA

[bots]

Joey, i think with that lead in the polls it would take labour back to the position they were in when Tony Blair won. When put in that context, it seems perfectly realistic to me.

Whether the polls are are still so far apart come election time is a different thing, but the economy isnt going to fix itself in 2 years, striking workers arent going to get an acceptable pay rise in that time, the tory party isn't going to become united etc etc etc :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/20/14/63675711-11336621-image-a-43_1666273476284.jpg

[bots]

One for LT

1583372255496896512

[bots]

Boris or Bust is the 3 word slogan tories understand

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1583377166120943616?s=20&t=5sLD7E_mSBe6bn01jR14FA
https://twitter.com/stephenfry/status/1583110655745277952?s=20&t=ta6S3ryGm4LyS3HMpw0C_A

[arista]

£1 is now $1:11

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfiJQiGX0AAiqIX?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

The ERG have an online meeting today and meet in person Monday.
Boris and his team meet Saturday to discuss tactics. If Boris can square the
ERG he gets about 60 MP's in his back pocket. But first Boris will need to make
a sincere apology!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/10/21/boris-johnson-could-return-no-10-just-one-word/

[arista]

The ERG have an online meeting today and meet in person Monday.
Boris and his team meet Saturday to discuss tactics. If Boris can square the
ERG he gets about 60 MP's in his back pocket. But first Boris will need to make
a sincere apology!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/10/21/boris-johnson-could-return-no-10-just-one-word/


Yes thats needed

[joeysteele]

Joey, i think with that lead in the polls it would take labour back to the position they were in when Tony Blair won. When put in that context, it seems perfectly realistic to me.

Whether the polls are are still so far apart come election time is a different thing, but the economy isnt going to fix itself in 2 years, striking workers arent going to get an acceptable pay rise in that time, the tory party isn't going to become united etc etc etc :laugh:

I hear all you're saying bots.
All I know is in the election Blair won.
Labour only had around 44% and the Cons around 30%

Starmer has nothing of the charisma Blair had.
Well others call it charisma I wouldn't.

Yes however on those figures Blair won a 179 overall majority.
Repeated more or less in 2001.

That kind of lead would satisfy me.
Because the larger the majority the more it seems PMs and government increase any arrogance they have already.
Which is not what I like about politics.

[UserSince2005]

We want the dream team back

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2019_49/3130301/191203-bois-trump-mc-853.JPG

[bots]

I saw a clip from question time last night where the speaker blamed the labour party for the tory mess. She said if they were competent it would make the tories competent :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

A decision on whether to go ahead with the Government’s medium-term fiscal plan on
October 31 will be for the next prime minister, Downing Street has said.

[bots]

A decision on whether to go ahead with the Government’s medium-term fiscal plan on
October 31 will be for the next prime minister, Downing Street has said.

Absolutely, if rishi won, i cant see him just accepting a plan from **** that would tie his hands for years

[Crimson Dynamo]

Absolutely, if rishi won, i cant see him just accepting a plan from **** that would tie his hands for years

Id think he has one already baked and ready?

[bots]

Id think he has one already baked and ready?

certainty

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rishi Sunak has become the first Conservative leadership candidate to reach 50 public
endorsements from Tory MPs.


Sunak now stands at the halfway point of the required threshold of 100 Tory MPs thanks
to endorsements from Sir Bob Neill and Mark Harper.

Boris Johnson currently has 37 public nominations, and Penny Mordaunt 16.

[The Slim Reaper]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-006fe4e6-8459-471e-8f6c-2d9d11b60edb.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffk8iVNXkAIAn8N?format=jpg&name=small

[bots]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/10/21/6a06902b-e9f3-4440-a79f-d222999ed7d9.png

[arista]

Ben Wallace MP, is not running
but stated he backs Johnson


Politics Live BBC2HD

Not normally Live on a Friday

[Gusto Brunt]

If Boris wins, he will be partying all the way to Christmas and New Year's Eve. :p

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ffk8iVNXkAIAn8N?format=jpg&name=small

tbf one is the personal view of a journalist - Vine

one the DM Leader comment

[arista]

Yes Slim


The Swords are out

Papers change Fast

[bots]

Rishi Sunak has become the first Conservative leadership candidate to reach 50 public
endorsements from Tory MPs.


Sunak now stands at the halfway point of the required threshold of 100 Tory MPs thanks
to endorsements from Sir Bob Neill and Mark Harper.

Boris Johnson currently has 37 public nominations, and Penny Mordaunt 16.

with boris in the mix, penny wont get the threshold. It will go to the members ... boris vs Rishi ... unless boris doesnt make the cut either :laugh:

[arista]

Roger Gale MP

Live BBC2HD Politics Live

He will Resign his Whip.
if Johnson becomes PM, again,


Old Roger
like an Angry old Dog

[bots]

there will be a small handful that will resign the whip, the rest will make votes uncomfortable

[arista]

there will be a small handful that will resign the whip, the rest will make votes uncomfortable


Yes it appear that way

[bots]

none of them will say they are joining the race until they hit the threshold, so we likely wont find out if anyone's running until 2pm monday

[Zizu]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221021/4b1fbc30bea28af0d97d3519083f05df.jpg


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[arista]

Clever Image

Zizu.

Make a Great Series

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fb-qogBXkAIlwog?format=jpg&name=small

Liz in Spitting Image

[Swan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fb-qogBXkAIlwog?format=jpg&name=small

Liz in Spitting Image

Remember when Bojo tackled the cost of living crisis with some sound advice - Buy a new kettle for 20 quid, which can save you up to a tenner a year, so after year 3 you'll be a tenner better off?

With advice like that, it makes you wonder what all this cost of living crisis fuss is about?! :hehe:

[bots]

the tory party imploding in front of our eyes is better than anything spitting image could come up with :laugh:

[Withano]

She’s a ****

[arista]

The 2nd Cabinet member
Simon Clarke MP
backs Johnson.

Many are saying he has the proper Mandate?

SkyNewsHD

[arista]

She’s a ****


How Very Nice
of you to post

[jet]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfiJQiGX0AAiqIX?format=jpg&name=small

Good for her!
Though like Zizu and Kaz, if I were Boris I'd tell them to F off too. The backstabbers shouldn't have plotted to oust him in the first place.

[bots]

Penny has declared!

[arista]

Snap


Penny Mordaunt MP
has announced she is now running for PM.

Which means she must have many
MP's backing her

[bots]

Penny Mordaunt MP
has announced she is now running for PM.

Which means she must have many
MP's backing her

she must have > 100

[Gusto Brunt]

Snap


Penny Mordaunt MP
has announced she is now running for PM.

Which means she must have many
MP's backing her

Feel a bit sorry for her. Looks like if Boris stands Penny will be last. :(

[arista]

she must have > 100


Yes, you would think so.

So on Monday
Penny Vs Rishi
and possible Johnson.

[bots]

Feel a bit sorry for her. Looks like if Boris stands Penny will be last. :(

i wouldnt bet on it, she is the middle ground

[Gusto Brunt]

i wouldnt bet on it, she is the middle ground

I like her. She's brilliant at the Despatch Box. :)

[Zizu]

Clever Image

Zizu.

Make a Great Series


House of Imbeciles


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[Zizu]

Remember when Bojo tackled the cost of living crisis with some sound advice - Buy a new kettle for 20 quid, which can save you up to a tenner a year, so after year 3 you'll be a tenner better off?

With advice like that, it makes you wonder what all this cost of living crisis fuss is about?! :hehe:


I like the story of the guy who said he only put £20 of petrol in his car each week so the rising cost didn’t effect him


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[Zizu]

Good for her!
Though like Zizu and Kaz, if I were Boris I'd tell them to F off too. The backstabbers shouldn't have plotted to oust him in the first place.


Agreed


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[joeysteele]

I'm obviously not a Con.

Of the 3 who it seems possibly may be the runners.

Obviously Johnson I would never support that odious creep for anything in fact.
He shouldn't be in any elected office.
(The candidate who will just bring even more controversy and sickening questionable behaviour yet again to the Con party).

Sunak, I think he could turn out to be the bigger threat to Labour actually because of the credibility he's gained after his prediction of how devastating the policies of Truss would be.
( The safer candidate).

Mordaunt, I like her and while she's okay in speeches she falls short when scrutinised more deeply.
In campaigning she'd be more like Mrs May sadly.
(The more a risk candidate).

If I was a Con the one I'd think would do better to start to turn things around would be Sunak.

[bots]

Sunak has a lot in the party that want to see him fail, and would throw him under a bus in an instant, the same would be true of boris if he actually gets enough noms, and i'm not convinced he will get them, so penny is the more likely to listen to people and take advice ... in my opinion, may didnt reach out to mp's for advice, she kept to her own 2 unelected advisors.

[Swan]

I like the story of the guy who said he only put £20 of petrol in his car each week so the rising cost didn’t effect him


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That's brilliant :joker:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfmaOyCWYAAMoR2?format=jpg&name=900x900

Penny Vs Rishi

[arista]

1583210763996794880

Fantastic Image
Sally Lockwood
SkyNewsHD

[Crimson Dynamo]

1583210763996794880

Fantastic Image
Sally Lockwood
SkyNewsHD

there may be no filter but its not a true image she has lens flare from the sun which has altered it somewhat

typical lying journo

:idc:

[arista]

there may be no filter but its not a true image she has lens flare from the sun which has altered it somewhat

typical lying journo

:idc:


Longer Exposure
is how you achieve that LT

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfmeBX0WYAMoGOx?format=jpg&name=900x900


Reporter Becca Hutson
Paddington London Studio,

Clever to have
BBCnewsHD
SkyNewsHD
Talk TV HD
and
ITV1HD news with subtitles
on in the Studio room

[Zizu]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221021/c18910a164e12eb95f4e720452c92dab.jpg


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[Zizu]

That's brilliant :joker:


It still amuses me when I think about it . . Although guys like that really don’t have all the stresses and worries that the rest of us do :)


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[Crimson Dynamo]

longer exposure
is how you achieve that lt

no or the man in yellow jogging would have motion blur
its flare and a slightly unsteady hand (DT's)

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfmeBX0WYAMoGOx?format=jpg&name=900x900


Reporter Becca Hutson
Paddington London Studio,

Clever to have
BBCnewsHD
SkyNewsHD
Talk TV HD
and
ITV1HD news with subtitles
on in the Studio room


id watch the excellent Ian Collins on Talk TV - bottom left

[arista]

no or the man in yellow jogging would have motion blur
its flare and a slightly unsteady hand (DT's)


Look at the Red on the Crossing
Blur

You can put some on Long Exposure

[The Slim Reaper]

Anyone have LT and Arista discussing photography on their Tibb bingo card? :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

look at the red on the crossing
blur

you can put some on long exposure

that is shift no blur

[Swan]

It still amuses me when I think about it . . Although guys like that really don’t have all the stresses and worries that the rest of us do :)


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True haha.

I vote for Phil Schofield for next PM

[arista]

Anyone have LT and Arista discussing photography on their Tibb bingo card? :laugh:


Slim
who do you think will win?

Penny
Rishi
or
B. Johnson

[The Slim Reaper]

Slim
who do you think will win?

Penny
Rishi
or
B. Johnson

Genuinely have no idea. If I cared about labour, I wouldn't want to see Penny in charge, but as someone who won't vote for either main party in the nest GE, I don't really see how Boris doesn't beat both of them, and the scandals will start straight back up all over again.

[Crimson Dynamo]

genuine question - Do the Lib dems exist anymore

I swear i have not heard about them in 2022?

[The Slim Reaper]

genuine question - Do the Lib dems exist anymore

I swear i have not heard about them in 2022?

I think they lost the perception of a centrist party as soon as they did whatever Tories wanted in the coalition, so signed their own death certificate.

[arista]

genuine question - Do the Lib dems exist anymore

I swear i have not heard about them in 2022?


It has 14 Members of Parliament


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats_(UK)

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think they lost the perception of a centrist party as soon as they did whatever Tories wanted in the coalition, so signed their own death certificate.

yep

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/21/16/63715149-11340629-Bannon_carried_a_copy_of_Friday_s_Financial_Times_ into_the_court-a-17_1666365897515.jpg

[arista]

https://i0.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/1700-leadership-chart-21-10-22.jpg?w=1200&ssl=1

At this time
88 Rishi Sunak
65 Boris Johnson
24 Penny Mordaunt

https://order-order.com/

[Crimson Dynamo]

Penny does not know what a woman is

she is NO chance

[Zizu]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221021/9f9efcf7b7a9a833555ecd98ed4a0726.jpg


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[arista]

[Transport secretary backs Boris Johnson
Anne-Marie Trevelyan has come out this evening
to say she will be supporting Boris Johnson
if he puts himself forward in the party’s
leadership contest.]

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1583176534545682432?s=20&t=YtjHK1SRVp4mOFQtw4oF0w

Nigel and Joey singing from then same hymn-sheet :omgno:

[GiRTh]

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1583176534545682432?s=20&t=YtjHK1SRVp4mOFQtw4oF0w

Nigel and Joey singing from then same hymn-sheet :omgno:
Incredible. Farage claims people cant get on the housing ladder due to immigrants.:conf::conf:

This is true head scratcher. Can anyone explain cuz I dont see the connection.

When did we become this country? Where the Prime Minister is cheered for saying the 'Juries out' regarding her thoughts on Macron - who at the time she hadnt even met as Prime Minister. Where the Home secretary's dream to watch people be deported. When did it get this bad?

[joeysteele]

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1583176534545682432?s=20&t=YtjHK1SRVp4mOFQtw4oF0w

Nigel and Joey singing from then same hymn-sheet :omgno:

I didn't agree with Farage on the EU or immigration.
However a lot of social policies I could have.

I fully now support electoral reform and even the Labour conference voted for it too.
However Starmer still needs a lot of convincing sadly but we're getting there.
Slowly.

[Zizu]

I didn't agree with Farage on the EU or immigration.
However a lot of social policies I could have.

I fully now support electoral reform and even the Labour conference voted for it too.
However Starmer still needs a lot of convincing sadly but we're getting there.
Slowly.


Farage is another imbecile of the highest order .

Surely nobody takes him seriously ?


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[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfnQQaQWYAAlaa5?format=jpg&name=small

[GoldHeart]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfnQQaQWYAAlaa5?format=jpg&name=small

Brilliant :joker:

[GoldHeart]

On another note , I thought Truss was older than 47 ! :skull: .

[arista]

Rishi Sunak has reached 100 MP's.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-83d418e8-a2cd-422a-be59-42830278471b.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-f034e70b-605b-4ca2-bd77-66cbeecbd952.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-64f31af6-9e31-42ae-b7f8-7d4af7cd4cc2.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-ecd920a4-8272-451c-811d-3d30816a602a.jpeg

[arista]

The Online Paper

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c629b4eb-31e4-47aa-9abe-3b27fe54ce28.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8c86731c-9bea-46fb-9fbe-43d80c65d0e7.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-9e243778-9a6f-4ec5-beb7-2f154f812d4f.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-939bf09f-28c3-4183-b72b-8f6a1cd5d8c5.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-21daf85d-843e-443d-a996-e604718e384e.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-2db205db-558a-471a-a126-47d5b05011f6.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-f3ebdc68-27f9-4e6f-9c8e-8e287d7f0b13.jpeg

[bots]

1583576544919711744

[Gusto Brunt]

Looks like the Tories could be making another horrific mistake installing Boris again.

They will never learn.

[Zizu]

If Boris wins, he will be partying all the way to Christmas and New Year's Eve. :p


I hope his next party amounts to more than his last one which was basically half a sandwich and a glass of lemonade in his own back garden .. and some wanted him flogged for that …


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[Zizu]

Looks like the Tories could be making another horrific mistake installing Boris again.

They will never learn.


They just want to win …
Like all parties they don’t care a jot about the people


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[bots]

They just want to win …
Like all parties they don’t care a jot about the people


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Boris may be a draw to the tory party membership, but he has dropped significantly to everyone else across the country. It won't be as big a loss as it would be with truss, but the tories will still lose .... and deserve it

[Gusto Brunt]

They just want to win …
Like all parties they don’t care a jot about the people


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Very true.

I hope his next party amounts to more than his last one which was basically half a sandwich and a glass of lemonade in his own back garden .. and some wanted him flogged for that …


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:joker:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/22/09/63739119-0-image-m-2_1666426110368.jpg

[arista]

Johnson BA flight has landed
at Gatwick,

Press Frenzy

Johnson Vs Rishi

Take to members
who wins?

[arista]

Only Johnson
has the Legal Mandate.

So Logical,
he takes over


Labour Get Stuffed

[bots]

i'm thinking that Sunak might not run and give his votes to Penny. She stands a better chance of beating Boris when it goes out to the membership

[arista]

i'm thinking that Sunak might not run and give his votes to Penny. She stands a better chance of beating Boris when it goes out to the membership


If only he would give her votes


I think Not

[Gusto Brunt]

Only Johnson
has the Legal Mandate.

So Logical,
he takes over


Labour Get Stuffed

He HAD it but he threw it away when he thought it acceptable to party while others couldn't attend funerals, or visit dying relatives in hospital.

He threw away everything he won. Now he has nothing, except a selfish desire to be PM again.

[arista]

Gusto
yes he failed.

But now we are where we are
this weekend.


No General Election until Jan 2025

So the Legal Mandate is Johnson
again


Feel The Force

[Zizu]

He HAD it but he threw it away when he thought it acceptable to party while others couldn't attend funerals, or visit dying relatives in hospital.

He threw away everything he won. Now he has nothing, except a selfish desire to be PM again.


He attended one get together in his own back garden for a few short minutes and social distanced .


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[Liam-]

And I’m brainwashed?

[bots]

Only Johnson
has the Legal Mandate.

So Logical,
he takes over


Labour Get Stuffed

It is perfectly legal for any of them to stay as PM until the next election. They all have a legal mandate

[arista]

It is perfectly legal for any of them to stay as PM until the next election. They all have a legal mandate


Of course
but many members and MP's now say
Johnson has the Best Mandate

[arista]

And I’m brainwashed?




No you are a Clever Lad

[The Slim Reaper]

If anyone wants to understand how media propaganda works, read Aristas posts. Few days ago he was dead set against BJ, but after a couple of days of GB news spewing conformist nonsense about a legal mandate, Arista repeats verbatim without any thought.

[bots]

The current tally is:

Rishi Sunak - 102 MPs
Boris Johnson - 46 MPs
Penny Mordaunt - 21 MPs

[bots]

Former Brexit minister David Frost is backing Rishi Sunak to be the next prime minister.

Also,

Former health secretary Matt Hancock has urged both Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak to work together in the national interest and called on the former prime minister to back his apparent rival to lead the country.

The West Suffolk MP - who was health secretary under Johnson - is backing former Chancellor Sunak, but urged the pair to "talk to each other".

Hancock tells BBC Radio Suffolk that co-operation is needed to bring "stable leadership" during a time of economic and political instability.

"We need to all come together and we need to deliver for the country," he adds.

Asked if he thought a deal between the pair possible, Hancock says it would be "superb and strongly in the national interest" for his former boss to get behind Sunak.