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Zizu
19-05-2024, 03:32 PM
No chance, complete domination from City.


Crazy as Everton are defending like their lives depended on it


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Father Chris Mouse
19-05-2024, 03:33 PM
Crazy as Everton are defending like their lives depended on it


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I need to win the other fantasy league im in, i badly need Arsenal to score to prevent an Everton clean sheet, and need Arsenal to keep a clean

bots
19-05-2024, 03:41 PM
loool Everton score at Arsenal

Father Chris Mouse
19-05-2024, 03:41 PM
I need to win the other fantasy league im in, i badly need Arsenal to score to prevent an Everton clean sheet, and need Arsenal to keep a clean

Lol, fcuk off

bots
19-05-2024, 03:44 PM
city could lose and still win now

bots
19-05-2024, 03:45 PM
ohhhhh WH score

Zizu
19-05-2024, 03:45 PM
Na

One goal from West Ham and City will crumble

I’m still hopeful


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Whoooooooo !!


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Father Chris Mouse
19-05-2024, 03:45 PM
And Arsenal, wow, lets fcuking go

bots
19-05-2024, 03:46 PM
it's going crazy .... love it :laugh:

Father Chris Mouse
19-05-2024, 03:47 PM
it's going crazy .... love it :laugh:

Yep, so glad we have a 2nd half now

bots
19-05-2024, 04:08 PM
just seen the opening chelsea goal .... amazing

Father Chris Mouse
19-05-2024, 04:13 PM
Yeah, but now we're doing our real best to fcuk up 6th spot

bots
19-05-2024, 04:23 PM
3-1 city

Father Chris Mouse
19-05-2024, 04:24 PM
Now it's all over

bots
19-05-2024, 04:26 PM
palace score 4 against Villa :laugh:

Christmas Dynasnow
19-05-2024, 04:28 PM
BOOM BOOM BOOM MATETA’S IN THE ROOM
There is no striker better
Than John Phillipe Mateta

Nicky91
19-05-2024, 04:29 PM
deffo am watching europa league final wednesday


could be a stunning match tbh, Atalanta also aren't that bad


curious if Leverkusen can pull off part 2 of potentially the treble



meanwhile

Parma returning to highest level in Serie A next season :)


Holstein Kiel set to debut in Bundesliga top level in their entire 125 years!


Willem II returning to Eredivisie, same as FC Groningen

bots
19-05-2024, 04:32 PM
Man U score against Brighton

GiRTh
19-05-2024, 04:46 PM
Got to win this. Cant lose when we've come this far

Father Chris Mouse
19-05-2024, 04:50 PM
It was easy for City lets be fair

Zizu
19-05-2024, 04:52 PM
West Ham score !?!?!?!?


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Christmas Dynasnow
19-05-2024, 04:52 PM
var handball

Zizu
19-05-2024, 04:52 PM
2:1 to the Arsenal !!!!!!


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James
19-05-2024, 04:53 PM
Sky haven't reported the Arsenal goal yet.

Christmas Dynasnow
19-05-2024, 04:54 PM
Havertz

Zizu
19-05-2024, 04:54 PM
West Ham goal scratched off by fecking VAR
!!

We were robbed guvnor !!


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James
19-05-2024, 04:55 PM
West Ham goal scratched off by fecking VAR
!!

We were robbed guvnor !!


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Should have been yellow? Or can VAR not do that?

Zizu
19-05-2024, 04:55 PM
WTF

VAR disallow the Arsenal goal as well !!

What the hell is occurring


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Zizu
19-05-2024, 04:57 PM
How much injury time for the Hammers to score 2 !!


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Christmas Dynasnow
19-05-2024, 04:57 PM
WTF

VAR disallow the Arsenal goal as well !!

What the hell is occurring


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no they didnt

Zizu
19-05-2024, 04:58 PM
West Ham apparently playing keep ball !!!

Sounds fishy ££££££


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Zizu
19-05-2024, 04:59 PM
Villa who somehow got 4th place are losing 5:0 .. what a waste of a CL spot


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James
19-05-2024, 05:00 PM
West Ham apparently playing keep ball !!!

Sounds fishy ££££££


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They haven't looked interested second half.

Zizu
19-05-2024, 05:01 PM
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Zizu
19-05-2024, 05:03 PM
They haven't looked interested second half.


So much for Declan’s mates dying on the beach … sorry pitch


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Merry Mockmas
19-05-2024, 06:13 PM
Anyone watching the womens game ?

ManU v Chelsea ?

Thoughts ?

Looks shocking tbh



Also featured is women’s player of the year .. the United keeper who was at the centre of that shirt name debacle - thoughts on her performance thus far !?

United 2:0 after 20 minutes


Edit - she just fell to the floor and bought a free kick .. thought they didn’t do all this nonsense ?!

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Diving and cheating will be in most versions of Football sadly.

Especially when the Football authorities doesn't really do anything to try and stamp it out.

Merry Mockmas
19-05-2024, 06:29 PM
So the Chelsea winger who keeps forcing her way through the United defence used to be a bloke !?

No wonder they can’t live with ‘her’ pace and power ffs

Things are even worse than I thought !

They are asking for equal pay !?!?

The united keeper looks as she’s never played as a goalie !
She’s let 4 in already and it’s not half time yet


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Who's trans in the Chelsea Women's team? Curiosity has gotten the better of me.:laugh:

Merry Mockmas
19-05-2024, 06:38 PM
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This clip was better than the actual match.:hehe:

I'm half joking.

Zizu
19-05-2024, 06:40 PM
Who's trans in the Chelsea Women's team? Curiosity has gotten the better of me.:laugh:

This 5’ 11” powerhouse of winger ..

‘She’ scored two and made two assists yesterday and won ‘man of the match’ … apparently



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Father Chris Mouse
19-05-2024, 06:42 PM
Caicedo with goal of the season on the last day :joker:

Zizu
19-05-2024, 06:44 PM
Caicedo with goal of the season on the last day :joker:


Did he score with the ball or someone’s head

:)


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Father Chris Mouse
19-05-2024, 06:47 PM
Did he score with the ball or someone’s head

:)


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Even you won't be able to deny the quality of the goal.

Merry Mockmas
19-05-2024, 06:47 PM
Villa who somehow got 4th place are losing 5:0 .. what a waste of a CL spot


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Well tbf, if Tottenham weren't busy deliberately tanking their rivals, maybe they would've got 4th spot instead.

I mean Villa just took advantage of other teams being off form for numerous different issues that those teams were having.

Merry Mockmas
19-05-2024, 06:51 PM
This 5’ 11” powerhouse of winger ..

‘She’ scored two and made two assists yesterday and won ‘man of the match’ … apparently



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Thanks for the confirmation, Zizu.

My guess was correct then.

Zizu
19-05-2024, 06:55 PM
Even you won't be able to deny the quality of the goal.


I’ll check later ..

Chelsea on a great run of form .. wonder if you can carry it forward into the new season


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Father Chris Mouse
19-05-2024, 07:01 PM
I’ll check later ..

Chelsea on a great run of form .. wonder if you can carry it forward into the new season


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Probably not knowing us. We need a striker, and a decent central defender badly in the summer.

Cherry Christmas
19-05-2024, 07:07 PM
Caicedo with goal of the season on the last day :joker:

fantastic goal

Cherry Christmas
19-05-2024, 07:08 PM
How come Arsenal were not on telly? .....bizarre

Liverpool who were playing for nothing on....:nono:

Zizu
19-05-2024, 07:10 PM
How come Arsenal were not on telly? .....bizarre

Liverpool who were playing for nothing on....:nono:


The Arsenal game was shown by TNT


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Cherry Christmas
19-05-2024, 07:10 PM
and I wasn't surprised though I haven't seen it to hear a Wolves player had been sent off....couldn't have Liverpool being beaten at home on Klopps last game now could we

Zizu
20-05-2024, 05:53 AM
The Brighton manager is walking away from the job tomorrow !!

Favourite for ManU or Juventus or Bayern Munich or FC Barcelona !!


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Just seen his record this season !!

6 home wins !!!!

That’s pants


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Zizu
20-05-2024, 06:25 AM
Soooo

My current DREAM Euro England team

3:5:2


Keeper

Back 3

Ben White , John Stones and Tyrone Mings ( all out nasty defender)



Midfield 5

TAA , Rice , Palmer , Foden and Bellingham



Front 2

Kane and Toney


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bots
20-05-2024, 06:44 AM
if England don't win the euros this summer, they never will

Merry Mockmas
20-05-2024, 07:55 AM
I was just seeing top 10 most attractive women Footballers at the moment on YouTube, and I've got to say that I've become a big fan of Croatia all of a sudden, if they can look like number 3.:laugh:

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bots
20-05-2024, 03:40 PM
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Father Chris Mouse
20-05-2024, 03:56 PM
Completely underwhelming last day. Highlight for me was Caicedo's wonder goal. Doesn't make up for his poor season, but what a hit.

Zizu
20-05-2024, 04:47 PM
Completely underwhelming last day. Highlight for me was Caicedo's wonder goal. Doesn't make up for his poor season, but what a hit.

Excellent goal indeed .. plus he’s apparently been playing well of late .. didn’t he get MoM
last week ?

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Zizu
20-05-2024, 04:54 PM
Soooo I wonder where Ross Barkley will end up in the summer. ??


Spurs
Arsenal
Manu


England euro squad


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bots
20-05-2024, 05:35 PM
man u wont be getting in to any bidding wars, so you can knock their name off from most of the deals. Their deals will be done in quiet

Christmas Dynasnow
20-05-2024, 05:52 PM
Completely underwhelming last day. Highlight for me was Caicedo's wonder goal. Doesn't make up for his poor season, but what a hit.

no one wants to see foreign cheats prosper

so yes awful last day

Zizu
20-05-2024, 06:50 PM
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Christmas Dynasnow
20-05-2024, 06:57 PM
no

Rangers have been beset with chronic injury this season too....

bots
20-05-2024, 07:46 PM
the minute you get a couple of injuries, it puts pressure on the rest of the squad, some of them then become injured adding even more pressure to the remainder of the squad. Add on the playing every 3 days and the big fact that they have started adding on 15 minutes to the length of every game, and it's no great surprise that injuries have gone through the roof.


Extending the time of every game just wasn't thought through

Merry Mockmas
21-05-2024, 03:46 AM
Completely underwhelming last day. Highlight for me was Caicedo's wonder goal. Doesn't make up for his poor season, but what a hit.

Kudus's goal against Man City was also very good imo.

Caicedo's was reminiscent of Beckham's goal against Wimbledon, which I mean that as a compliment.

bots
21-05-2024, 12:34 PM
Cristiano Ronaldo has been included in Portugal's Euro 2024 squad ahead of his 11th major tournament.

The 39-year-old Al Nassr forward is joined by 41-year-old Porto defender Pep as the two veterans who played in Portugal's victory at Euro 2016.

Zizu
21-05-2024, 01:03 PM
England squad of 33

7 won’t make the final 26


No Sancho or Barkley !!

Criminal

Gareth Safegate


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bots
21-05-2024, 01:05 PM
No Sancho or Barkley !!

Criminal

Gareth Safegate


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Sancho was sent home by the england squad previously for bad behaviour so why would he be picked now

Zizu
21-05-2024, 01:07 PM
Sancho was sent home by the england squad previously for bad behaviour so why would he be picked now


He was man of the match in the champions league semifinal and was unplayable


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bots
21-05-2024, 01:10 PM
He was man of the match in the champions league semifinal and was unplayable


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yeah but he doesn't behave himself and previously pissed off Southgate, so he has no chance now

Zizu
21-05-2024, 01:12 PM
What the fek is Southgate waffling on about ‘


You can have too many forwards.. forwards need love and that can be complicated !


I thought he was supposed to be intelligent?


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Zizu
21-05-2024, 02:26 PM
No Rico Lewis
No Gibbs White


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Zizu
22-05-2024, 05:47 PM
Vincent Kompany and Bayern. He’s really keen on this possibility, Bayern have discussed project with Belgian coach.

Supervisory board approval needed but he’s a strong candidate, as exclusively revealed on Monday.


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Christmas Dynasnow
22-05-2024, 06:08 PM
how the hell can you fail miserably with Burnley and get the Bayern job??

Zizu
22-05-2024, 06:34 PM
how the hell can you fail miserably with Burnley and get the Bayern job??


He did marvellously well in the championship with a team who’d lost their best players

His teams play brilliant football


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Zizu
22-05-2024, 08:35 PM
Who the hell is Lookman!?

Just scored three fabulous goals - 2 with left foot and one right foot as well

Bayern unbeaten all season all competitions are 3:0 down after 75 minutes


Possibly the best EVER hattrick !!


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Zizu
22-05-2024, 08:37 PM
Why on earth is Xaby Alonso staying with Levercusan !!??

What’s his thought process I wonder


All the massive opportunities he’s missed out on they’re looking toothless against Atalanta
- 3:0 down

Plus he will probably lose some of his best players to bigger teams in the summer


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James
22-05-2024, 08:39 PM
Just found out I can watch this on Discovery+.

They are making it more and more difficult to watch these finals for free.

Merry Mockmas
22-05-2024, 09:53 PM
I know I keep moaning on the Football section lately.

But wtf! At what I think was Joe Cole's comment after the match, saying "that's what they call love."

What has happened to Humanity that this is actually deemed acceptable dialogue in what's meant to be a discussion about Atalanta winning the Europa League?

I know that Football Shows have always had the odd daft comment here or there, but the last few years have brought in a whole new world of lameness.

Merry Mockmas
22-05-2024, 10:01 PM
What the fek is Southgate waffling on about ‘


You can have too many forwards.. forwards need love and that can be complicated !


I thought he was supposed to be intelligent?


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Southgate said the dreaded words.

They're paid to do a job, they either do it or they don't, and if they don't do it then they should face constructive criticism, it's part and parcel of any job out there.

These players should be receiving love from their family, friends, and the fans should preferably have the player's back if he is playing for their team.

Merry Mockmas
22-05-2024, 10:03 PM
how the hell can you fail miserably with Burnley and get the Bayern job??

He is doing a Wayne Rooney.

Failing upwards, even though it was Kompany's woeful tactics that got Burnley relegated.

Nicky91
23-05-2024, 07:37 AM
Why on earth is Xaby Alonso staying with Levercusan !!??

What’s his thought process I wonder


All the massive opportunities he’s missed out on they’re looking toothless against Atalanta
- 3:0 down

Plus he will probably lose some of his best players to bigger teams in the summer


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in all fairness

Atalanta are a pretty strong team either, from the small place of Bergamo, a solid top 5 team in the Serie A against the bigger city teams from Rome, Turin, Milan

Lookman is a huge talent, could see him leaving for many millions soon i think


Koopmeiners also a amazing tough force in midfield

De Ketelaere back in his good old form, compared to his weak first year at AC Milan, this loan spell does him very good

Scamacca very important up front not just himself scoring goals but also creating scoring opportunities for other players

Kolasinac tough defender (i always liked him, even at Schalke, Arsenal)

Scalvini, a talented defender who is hyped up to be the next Bonucci, Chiellini



Gian Piero Gasperini, i have sympathies for him as well, finally winning a prize, in his 8 years at the club



was a good and enjoyable final, Leverkusen wasn't that bad, but Atalanta were consistently good on every position basically, also they did a good job in blocking Xhaka, Wirtz from getting in their usual strong form



so what not a treble, maybe a double still, on saturday vs Kaiserslautern the cup final


a party on sunday nevertheless ;)

Zizu
23-05-2024, 11:31 AM
in all fairness

Atalanta are a pretty strong team either, from the small place of Bergamo, a solid top 5 team in the Serie A against the bigger city teams from Rome, Turin, Milan

Lookman is a huge talent, could see him leaving for many millions soon i think


Koopmeiners also a amazing tough force in midfield

De Ketelaere back in his good old form, compared to his weak first year at AC Milan, this loan spell does him very good

Scamacca very important up front not just himself scoring goals but also creating scoring opportunities for other players

Kolasinac tough defender (i always liked him, even at Schalke, Arsenal)

Scalvini, a talented defender who is hyped up to be the next Bonucci, Chiellini



Gian Piero Gasperini, i have sympathies for him as well, finally winning a prize, in his 8 years at the club



was a good and enjoyable final, Leverkusen wasn't that bad, but Atalanta were consistently good on every position basically, also they did a good job in blocking Xhaka, Wirtz from getting in their usual strong form



so what not a treble, maybe a double still, on saturday vs Kaiserslautern the cup final


a party on sunday nevertheless ;)


BayerLev looked tired and lethargic last night

Looks like all those last minute rescue jobs took a toll after all


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Nicky91
23-05-2024, 12:43 PM
BayerLev looked tired and lethargic last night

Looks like all those last minute rescue jobs took a toll after all


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:conf:

not at all


some moments they just had some bad luck, other moments was proper defending by Atalanta



also where some players might be leaving, the team is quite attractive due to the CL group stage


Frimpong for 40 million probably


new goalkeeper i guess


i wouldn't sell Wirtz for less than 50 or 60 million, same goes for Tah and Andrich, no way these should leave on too low offers tbh



let's give Atalanta more praise than trashtalking on Leverkusen, its long due that they win a big trophy now anyway, idk what it is but they have some magic touch regarding talented youngsters, also Robin Gosens whom became a german international when he played over there too, while before that he was a unknown at heracles almelo


same with Hans Hateboer too (also wasn't from a top dutch team but PEC Zwolle i believe)

bots
24-05-2024, 02:34 AM
Harry Kane moved to Bayern to win trophies. 1 season later his manager is going to be the guy who got Burnley relegated from the premier league :joker:

Zizu
24-05-2024, 04:09 AM
Harry Kane moved to Bayern to win trophies. 1 season later his manager is going to be the guy who got Burnley relegated from the premier league :joker:


They will still be favourites to win the league I bet


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Merry Mockmas
24-05-2024, 06:12 AM
He is doing a Wayne Rooney.

Failing upwards, even though it was Kompany's woeful tactics that got Burnley relegated.

There's honestly no justice in Football.:facepalm:

I could honestly out manage Rooney and Kompany in my sleep, yet they just keep getting offered jobs in big Leagues even though they can't manage for toffee.

And I don't mean it to be nasty (as Kompany seems like a decent guy tbf) but Rooney in particular can't take any responsibility for relegating teams (when it's his fault) and decides to blame the team instead for his failure at understanding the basics of Football tactics.

And listen, I'm no Pep Guardiola, but even I know that you need to do two things as a Football Manager.

1. Have a god damn midfield.

And 2. Play to your players strengths.

Rooney did neither, and couldn't accept that he did neither, therefore he hasn't learned anything positive from his time with us to then improve at Plymouth.

I don't know why I'm getting worked up, Plymouth isn't my team, if they want to get relegated that badly then go for it.

Zizu
24-05-2024, 06:24 AM
There's honestly no justice in Football.:facepalm:

I could honestly out manage Rooney and Kompany in my sleep, yet they just keep getting offered jobs in big Leagues even though they can't manage for toffee.

And I don't mean it to be nasty (as Kompany seems like a decent guy tbf) but Rooney in particular can't take any responsibility for relegating teams (when it's his fault) and decides to blame the team instead for his failure at understanding the basics of Football tactics.

And listen, I'm no Pep Guardiola, but even I know that you need to do two things as a Football Manager.

1. Have a god damn midfield.

And 2. Play to your players strengths.

Rooney did neither, and couldn't accept that he did neither, therefore he hasn't learned anything positive from his time with us to then improve at Plymouth.

I don't know why I'm getting worked up, Plymouth isn't my team, if they want to get relegated that badly then go for it.


Thing is .. Kompany likes to play from the back ..it was extremely successful and great to watch in the championship ..

Now transfer that style to Bayern’s players who CAN play out from the back and you should have a winning formula


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Merry Mockmas
24-05-2024, 06:29 AM
Thing is .. Kompany likes to play from the back ..it was extremely successful and great to watch in the championship ..

Now transfer that style to Bayern’s players who CAN play out from the back and you should have a winning formula


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Kompany can only do any good when his team is exceptional for the League they're in, that imo isn't a good Manager.

I look at Thomas Frank or David Moyes as examples of Managers that can bring the best out of ordinary teams.

John Eustace last season for Blues when we were everyone's tip to get relegated, and he kept us up with games to spare.

They're good Managers imo, not someone that has to have the best team in the League.

Zizu
24-05-2024, 06:55 AM
Kompany can only do any good when his team is exceptional for the League they're in, that imo isn't a good Manager.

I look at Thomas Frank or David Moyes as examples of Managers that can bring the best out of ordinary teams.

John Eustace last season for Blues when we were everyone's tip to get relegated, and he kept us up with games to spare.

They're good Managers imo, not someone that has to have the best team in the League.


Like I said

Horses for courses!

They loved the football Pep played and Kompany csn obviously give them that again


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Merry Mockmas
24-05-2024, 07:05 AM
Like I said

Horses for courses!

They loved the football Pep played and Kompany csn obviously give them that again


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I think that Bayern are begging for Levekusen and Stuttgart to be the top 2 again, with Dortmund and Leipzig also above them this time.

Merry Mockmas
24-05-2024, 07:09 AM
Plus not every team can play Guardiola's style of Football.

That kind of thinking that every team is doing is killing the enjoyment of Football for me.

I remember growing up when Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, Benitez, and Allardyce (to name a couple of controversial styles here) all had different ways of approaching the game.

And with Klopp gone next season, the Pep clones are only going to get worse in Football.

bots
24-05-2024, 12:04 PM
Kompany failed in the premier league because he couldn't adapt his tactics to the team they are playing. Arteta and Pep tweak their tactics every game, and that's why they continue to be successful. Kompany either doesn't know how to do that or is unwilling to do it. Either way, when you become predictable, the opposition will adapt their tactics to expose your weaknesses and that what will happen to Bayern

Zizu
24-05-2024, 12:48 PM
Kompany failed in the premier league because he couldn't adapt his tactics to the team they are playing. Arteta and Pep tweak their tactics every game, and that's why they continue to be successful. Kompany either doesn't know how to do that or is unwilling to do it. Either way, when you become predictable, the opposition will adapt their tactics to expose your weaknesses and that what will happen to Bayern


You can’t compare lowly Burnley to the talent of Arsenal and ManC ..

If he had to go against all his principles and played death football like Everton or the other UFC teams he would’ve quit ..

By sticking to his principles he’s earned himself one of the most prestigious jobs in

Who’s laughing now


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Zizu
24-05-2024, 01:10 PM
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Merry Mockmas
25-05-2024, 01:52 AM
Kompany failed in the premier league because he couldn't adapt his tactics to the team they are playing. Arteta and Pep tweak their tactics every game, and that's why they continue to be successful. Kompany either doesn't know how to do that or is unwilling to do it. Either way, when you become predictable, the opposition will adapt their tactics to expose your weaknesses and that what will happen to Bayern

I agree with you on that tbf.

It's why I expect another 3rd Place finish for Bayern next season.

Merry Mockmas
25-05-2024, 01:54 AM
You can’t compare lowly Burnley to the talent of Arsenal and ManC ..

If he had to go against all his principles and played death football like Everton or the other UFC teams he would’ve quit ..

By sticking to his principles he’s earned himself one of the most prestigious jobs in

Who’s laughing now


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You play to your players strengths, if that means going "UFC" to win the match then you take that approach.

If you want to be a good Manager anyway.

Zizu
25-05-2024, 03:07 AM
You play to your players strengths, if that means going "UFC" to win the match then you take that approach.

If you want to be a good Manager anyway.


Well he showed that he’s a strong , principled guy and has won himself a dream job ….


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Zizu
25-05-2024, 01:45 PM
Great .. FA Cup final

I woke up with this banging sinus headache ..

Switch onto ITV


Two women .. complete unknowns .. waffling .. no .. shrieking on about .. basically nothing .. now ten minutes of bladdy adverts !!


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Zizu
25-05-2024, 01:51 PM
Great .. FA Cup final

I woke up with this banging sinus headache ..

Switch onto ITV


Two women .. complete unknowns .. waffling .. no .. shrieking on about .. basically nothing .. now ten minutes of bladdy adverts !!


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Edit ..

It’s on BBC as well !!

Switched over to the BeeB

Quiet a relief to see Lineker and Rooney plus no adverts !


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Zizu
25-05-2024, 01:53 PM
Nice singing by the young lad .. not sure if the woman is doing expressive dance or if she’s ‘signing’ the wordsz - she looks good though

:)


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Zizu
25-05-2024, 02:00 PM
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Zizu
25-05-2024, 02:01 PM
Come on United ..

Break City’s dominance


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Zizu
25-05-2024, 02:02 PM
Looked like a shove on Haaland

Well disguised foul by Martinez the master of the dark arts


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Zizu
25-05-2024, 02:19 PM
Ten Haag apparently did an interview for Dutch tv yesterday where he stated that the new bosses were going to make loads of changes.. some have already commenced but added that they have told him that they want him to take the club forward in the forthcoming years !!!


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Merry Mockmas
26-05-2024, 12:16 AM
Well he showed that he’s a strong , principled guy and has won himself a dream job ….


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But how long will he keep the job, if he can't adapt?

Merry Mockmas
26-05-2024, 12:19 AM
Edit ..

It’s on BBC as well !!

Switched over to the BeeB

Quiet a relief to see Lineker and Rooney plus no adverts !


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I'd rather listen to the two women over the guy that somehow managed to take Blues from sixth place to relegated, plus has relegated Derby and soon to be Plymouth.

Zizu
26-05-2024, 02:17 AM
I'd rather listen to the two women over the guy that somehow managed to take Blues from sixth place to relegated, plus has relegated Derby and soon to be Plymouth.


You may dislike him , many do , but he’s still one of the best ever footballers and so he’s more than qualified to offer an opinion


I wasn’t a big fan as he played for bladdy Manu but he knows his stuff as he’s been there, done that , wore the t shirt plus he doesn’t waffle on aimlessly in a thrill voice


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Merry Mockmas
26-05-2024, 04:39 AM
You may dislike him , many do , but he’s still one of the best ever footballers and so he’s more than qualified to offer an opinion


I wasn’t a big fan as he played for bladdy Manu but he knows his stuff as he’s been there, done that , wore the t shirt plus he doesn’t waffle on aimlessly in a thrill voice


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I actually was fine with Rooney until he tried to blame Blues for his own incompetence.

I mean Eustace, Mowbray, and Rowett all did better than him with the same squad and owners, but apparently it wasn't his fault that we couldn't even be competitive against Stoke at home.

He was a talented Footballer, but him commenting on Ten Hag's performance as Man Utd Manager is imo laughable when he couldn't even get Blues to win 3 matches under his tutelage.

And who has a shrill voice out of the women? They all tend to sound more masculine than the men to me.:joker:

Zizu
26-05-2024, 06:42 AM
I actually was fine with Rooney until he tried to blame Blues for his own incompetence.

I mean Eustace, Mowbray, and Rowett all did better than him with the same squad and owners, but apparently it wasn't his fault that we couldn't even be competitive against Stoke at home.

He was a talented Footballer, but him commenting on Ten Hag's performance as Man Utd Manager is imo laughable when he couldn't even get Blues to win 3 matches under his tutelage.

And who has a shrill voice out of the women? They all tend to sound more masculine than the men to me.:joker:


They were pitchside and were practically shouting for some reason …. plus they were both waffling .

Like it or not it’s what women do - they talk more than guys - it’s a thing
They probably got even more carries away with the excitement of everything.
It doesn’t help that neither of them have any credibility given we have more idea if either if them were any good at football

( Note a few paragraphs on Wiki doesn’t give anyone footballing credibility .. we all respect the ex player pundits because we actually WITNESSED them playing at the highest level.. week after week , season after season !


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Zizu
26-05-2024, 06:43 AM
… and before the knives come out ..

::::


Research shows that most women speak on average 20,000 words per day, approximately 13,000 more than the average male. Women generally speak more quickly and devote more brainpower to verbal communication.


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Zizu
29-05-2024, 08:52 AM
Reports that ManU are confident on signing Michael Olise in the coming hours !!


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Zizu
29-05-2024, 08:52 AM
With the thought of having no football to watch .. for 6 weeks ??

I felt we needed a general thread to keep things going ..


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Back to this situation ..


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Christmas Dynasnow
29-05-2024, 09:07 AM
Back to this situation ..


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the Euros start in a couple of weeks or so

Zizu
29-05-2024, 09:53 AM
the Euros start in a couple of weeks or so


Generally speaking … not specifically 6 weeks ..


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bots
29-05-2024, 10:00 AM
Generally speaking … not specifically 6 weeks ..


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they start 14th June. 2 weeks on Friday .... and there will be some friendlies before that

Father Chris Mouse
29-05-2024, 10:40 AM
Who's gonna organise the Euro's Fantasy?

Christmas Dynasnow
29-05-2024, 10:42 AM
For my club we have now slided into full-scale into transfer and signings mode and have tons of videos out daily on youtube so nothing stops - not like when you were a kid and all you had to tide you over was wimbledon, the open golf and a bit of cricket

it was a LONG summer

bots
29-05-2024, 10:57 AM
For my club we have now slided into full-scale into transfer and signings mode and have tons of videos out daily on youtube so nothing stops - not like when you were a kid and all you had to tide you over was wimbledon, the open golf and a bit of cricket

it was a LONG summer

there are 3 youtube videos daily from united stand, and countless others as well. There is plenty to keep interest going

Christmas Dynasnow
29-05-2024, 11:43 AM
there are 3 youtube videos daily from united stand, and countless others as well. There is plenty to keep interest going

Goldbridge must be staying at some relatives as the last 2 have been in a kitchen!

bots
29-05-2024, 11:56 AM
Goldbridge must be staying at some relatives as the last 2 have been in a kitchen!

yeah with a weird microphone. It's half term, he must be on holiday somewhere

Christmas Dynasnow
29-05-2024, 12:12 PM
Iv just watched the League Cup initial draw in Scotland live!

PREMIER SPORTS CUP 24/25 GROUP STAGE DRAW | SPFL

First games will be 13/14 July

Nicky91
29-05-2024, 12:20 PM
tonight Olympiakos vs Fiorentina

conference league final in athens


sort of home game for Olympiakos, but not exactly, Athens is the home of their rivals AEK

Zizu
29-05-2024, 02:29 PM
The next BIG thing apparently…

https://www.footballtransfers.com/en/transfer-news/uk-premier-league/2024/05/chelsea-transfer-news-blues-blasted-for-scandalous-wonderkid-transfer


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Zizu
29-05-2024, 03:01 PM
tonight Olympiakos vs Fiorentina

conference league final in athens


sort of home game for Olympiakos, but not exactly, Athens is the home of their rivals AEK


3rd division Euro cup final ?


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Christmas Dynasnow
29-05-2024, 03:32 PM
Kompany is the new manager of Bayern

Nicky91
29-05-2024, 04:20 PM
3rd division Euro cup final ?


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i'm gonna watch that


any Olympiakos game can be quite entertaining tbh

Zizu
30-05-2024, 04:43 PM
Soooo

Wayne Rooney has managed 150 games with a win ratio of 22% !!!


Thats basically a win every FIVE games !!


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Zizu
31-05-2024, 08:08 AM
Wow … all this fuss about players playing too much football …

Latest stats reveal-


Bellingham has played 18,000 minutes by the age of 20


Beckham had only played 4,000 minutes by exactly the same age !!


That is crazy !!


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Zizu
31-05-2024, 10:46 AM
Wow … all this fuss about players playing too much football …

Latest stats reveal-


Bellingham has played 18,000 minutes by the age of 20


Beckham had only played 4,000 minutes by exactly the same age !!


That is crazy !!


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Players strike incoming !?!?!


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Nicky91
31-05-2024, 01:07 PM
i'm gonna watch that


any Olympiakos game can be quite entertaining tbh

i wanted to watch that :skull:


but we had a huge power outage wednesday evening here :idc: like 84 people had no power in our city of eindhoven - the power company are investigating this thoroughly how this sudden power outage could happen on a clear day, also no one were using airconditioning units etc




so i only had seen 40 minutes of that


i looked up the result on text page the next day


Olympiakos won with 1-0, making them the first greek club to win a european cup trophy :)

The Slim Reaper
31-05-2024, 01:13 PM
Wow … all this fuss about players playing too much football …

Latest stats reveal-


Bellingham has played 18,000 minutes by the age of 20


Beckham had only played 4,000 minutes by exactly the same age !!


That is crazy !!


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Bellingham was playing at 16 for BCFC. Beckham didn't start playing for yernited until he was around 20, i think.

You need to find a player from a previous generation who also started playing at 16, if you want to find an equivalent match.

Zizu
31-05-2024, 08:36 PM
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[emoji599]𝐉𝐔𝐒𝐓 𝐈𝐍! | Tottenham have now pinpointed Crystal Palace attacking midfielder and versatile winger Eberechi Eze as a target ahead of the upcoming summer transfer window.

[emoji360]Palace will only listen to offers which exceed £60M.


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Zizu
02-06-2024, 11:18 PM
England ladies BEST player !?!?

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Merry Mockmas
02-06-2024, 11:56 PM
Soooo

Wayne Rooney has managed 150 games with a win ratio of 22% !!!


Thats basically a win every FIVE games !!


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With us, it would've been a win in every ten games.:joker:

I'm exaggerating a little bit.

Zizu
03-06-2024, 10:15 AM
Why are we playing a weakened team tonight with the competition just two weeks away


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bots
03-06-2024, 12:31 PM
one of the Saudi teams has offered over 70m for Casemiro :dance:

Zizu
03-06-2024, 12:44 PM
one of the Saudi teams has offered over 70m for Casemiro :dance:


They aren’t exactly bursting with amazing talent over there

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Father Chris Mouse
03-06-2024, 01:15 PM
Why are we playing a weakened team tonight with the competition just two weeks away


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That friendly is on tonight?

Christmas Dynasnow
03-06-2024, 01:39 PM
That friendly is on tonight?

channel 4

Father Chris Mouse
03-06-2024, 01:57 PM
channel 4

Nice one thanks

Zizu
03-06-2024, 04:02 PM
That friendly is on tonight?


Yep

Why wouldn’t he play the best starting eleven in these two friendlies ??

What’s the point in playing fringe players who he won’t even play in the actual competition because he’s so scared of losing


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Zizu
03-06-2024, 06:28 PM
What sn absolute dik

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Zizu
03-06-2024, 06:29 PM
I hope they score 9 in the first half and it all backfires on Southgate


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Zizu
03-06-2024, 06:55 PM
Their guy just fell down - no contact from Trippier .. ref buys the dive as usual


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Zizu
03-06-2024, 06:56 PM
TAA and Palmer have an instinctive understanding .. both class players


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Christmas Dynasnow
03-06-2024, 06:58 PM
Southgate is such a dweeb

Zizu
03-06-2024, 07:05 PM
Eze and Palmer looking classy at international level


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Zizu
03-06-2024, 07:09 PM
Have internet teams ever played against a club team .. in a friendly ??


I’d like to see England v Arsenal or England v Liverpool .. both would be a far stiffer test than this pub team


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Zizu
03-06-2024, 07:14 PM
How is that not a free kick on the edge of the box ?

Eze clearly taken out


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Zizu
03-06-2024, 07:21 PM
Bowen , Guehi , Dunk are not good enough at this level .. even Gallagher’s limitations are apparent


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Zizu
03-06-2024, 07:29 PM
Bowen and Guewi can’t even make simple passes


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Father Chris Mouse
03-06-2024, 07:35 PM
I can't take anymore of this, going to watch some paint dry

Christmas Dynasnow
03-06-2024, 07:39 PM
I can't take anymore of this, going to watch some paint dry

iv sewn my eyelids together

The Slim Reaper
03-06-2024, 07:40 PM
England ladies BEST player !?!?



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Whats your point?

Zizu
03-06-2024, 08:33 PM
Whats your point?


She doesn’t look like a professional athlete..


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Zizu
03-06-2024, 08:34 PM
I can't take anymore of this, going to watch some paint dry


This is football under Southgate


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Zizu
03-06-2024, 08:37 PM
Bowen misses an absolute sitter then gives yet another poor pass .. an easy pass to Kane


Southgate is a complete imbecile if he takes Bowen to the Euros given we have Saka , Palmer and Foden for that position


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The Slim Reaper
03-06-2024, 08:44 PM
She doesn’t look like a professional athlete..


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A professional athlete doesn't have a set look. Tyson Fury exists.

You've brought her up twice in 2 different threads with the same pic, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Zizu
03-06-2024, 09:19 PM
A professional athlete doesn't have a set look. Tyson Fury exists.

You've brought her up twice in 2 different threads with the same pic, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

She needs to lose about a stone in weight.

Frank Lampard used to get lambasted for his weight and he was skinny compared to her .




Tyson Fury is a freak of nature and even he was found out when he came up against an elite , super-fit opponent as he was blowing out of his ar** to the end of the fight .

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Zizu
03-06-2024, 09:30 PM
Why on earth didn’t he give Toney the second half ??

Kane starts the Iceland game on Friday


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The Slim Reaper
03-06-2024, 09:38 PM
She needs to lose about a stone in weight.

Frank Lampard used to get lambasted for his weight and he was skinny compared to her .




Tyson Fury is a freak of nature and even he was found out when he came up against an elite , super-fit opponent as he was blowing out of his ar** to the end of the fight .

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I'm not really sure it's your place to be telling female athletes to lose weight - it's not a good look for you, especially when you've already said she's Ingurlands best player.

Merry Mockmas
03-06-2024, 09:57 PM
I can't take anymore of this, going to watch some paint dry

It was a thrill a minute.

The lack of chances until the 900th minute were amazing to see.

I couldn't take my eyes off the screen, the next GOT was spawned from the England vs Bosnia match.

Merry Mockmas
03-06-2024, 09:59 PM
This is football under Southgate


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This is England more like.

When has England ever played exciting Football?

Zizu
03-06-2024, 10:12 PM
I'm not really sure it's your place to be telling female athletes to lose weight - it's not a good look for you, especially when you've already said she's Ingurlands best player.


She is generally accepted as England’s most gifted player and a role model - as such I would expect her to at least look reasonably fit/athletic.


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The Slim Reaper
03-06-2024, 10:47 PM
She is generally accepted as England’s most gifted player and a role model - as such I would expect her to at least look reasonably fit/athletic.


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People have different body types. She's obviously fit if she's playing her sport at the top level.

Zizu
03-06-2024, 11:03 PM
People have different body types. She's obviously fit if she's playing her sport at the top level.


It suggests that the ladies game isn’t quite at the level as we are being told in media imho

Something we can clearly see for ourselves - if we are being honest or realistic for a moment.


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Zizu
04-06-2024, 09:21 AM
Getting back to the Euro squad …

Southgate has been speaking of Wharton in glowing terms this morning !!

Says he’s really impressed in training and played really well in the second half .
Plus his 100% pass completion rate was impressive and indeed vital .

I’m wondering if he has played himself into the squad .. maybe at the expense of Curtis Jones or even Gallagher ?


Thoughts


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Zizu
04-06-2024, 09:36 AM
So who are the seven who will probably miss out ??




If Maguire goes .. then I wouldn’t take Dunk and I think Southgate thinks far too much of Maguire to omit him

That leaves Dunk , Trafford , Shaw , Jones missing out .

The other three … well Watkins showed nothing last night .. he couldn’t find space against a novice , experimental Bosnian defence.

I’d probably ditch Gordon, Branthwaite who’s inexperienced and who had a poor end to the season and Gueli who made some terrible passes out of defence last night .


Who do you see missing out ?


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Zizu
04-06-2024, 10:25 AM
Given that Rooney , Lampard and Gerard who were all fabulous players all basically flopped in management .. which ex players do you see being a managerial success in the Premier League ??


Its rhe current topic on TalkSport and two names are being mentioned a lot

Michael Carrick and John Terry - i kinda agree with both. John Terry is actually going through the process.. the tried and trusted way of gaining all the experience through being backroom staff , reserve team manager .. assistant manager .


The only thing that may play against him arw the skeletons in his wardrobe (or is it cupboard ?)


Thoughts ?!!!


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Christmas Dynasnow
04-06-2024, 10:59 AM
New look, new club?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPOSqDcXsAAJodC?format=jpg&name=small

Zizu
04-06-2024, 11:09 AM
New look, new club?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPOSqDcXsAAJodC?format=jpg&name=small


Maybe its time

He was a shadow of himself last season


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Zizu
04-06-2024, 11:54 AM
Bruno Fernandes’s agent is apparently touting his client all around Europe as we speak


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Zizu
04-06-2024, 11:55 AM
ManU are supposedly scouring the market for at least one left footed centre back

Suggesting Maguire will be moved on after the Euros


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Christmas Dynasnow
04-06-2024, 12:16 PM
Bruno Fernandes’s agent is apparently touting his client all around Europe as we speak


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he will have plenty takers but why on earth would Man U sell their best player?

Father Chris Mouse
04-06-2024, 12:19 PM
John Terry is doing everything right it seems. He was an amazing leader for Chelsea during their most successful period, and i imagine his ego has calmed with age. He could be right up there as a top manager one day.

Father Chris Mouse
04-06-2024, 12:19 PM
Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard will never make it as managers.

Zizu
04-06-2024, 12:32 PM
he will have plenty takers but why on earth would Man U sell their best player?

8th place , no European football ..

If he demands a move they won’t want to keep him - he’s moody enough at the best of times


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Zizu
04-06-2024, 12:35 PM
John Terry is doing everything right it seems. He was an amazing leader for Chelsea during their most successful period, and i imagine his ego has calmed with age. He could be right up there as a top manager one day.


Yeah , I agree .. just a couple of incidents in his past may hamper his chances


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Zizu
04-06-2024, 12:36 PM
Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard will never make it as managers.


Lamps did ok with you initially


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The Slim Reaper
04-06-2024, 03:14 PM
City owners trying to bully the PL.

1797998795084423191

if they operate so successfully within PL rules, why are they so desperate to see their end?

Looks like a potential quid pro quo dropping both law suits. Hopefully the league stands strong.

bots
04-06-2024, 05:00 PM
it's all a big mess. There is good reason to have rules that stop clubs allowing big losses, but, apart from that, the rest is big business doing what they do.

The premier league want the big money owners, indeed it could be argued that they need them. Personally, I don't think Man U owners should be allowed to put the club in huge amounts of debt based on the future speculation that they will still be able to service their debt loans decades into the future, but the premier league allow it

The premier league was never meant to be an organisation whose prime function was to be a financial regulator, and that is what it's become (when it suits them)

Zizu
04-06-2024, 05:13 PM
City owners trying to bully the PL.

1797998795084423191

if they operate so successfully within PL rules, why are they so desperate to see their end?

Looks like a potential quid pro quo dropping both law suits. Hopefully the league stands strong.


Yep

City using their vast wealth to pressurise the League .


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bots
04-06-2024, 05:24 PM
looks to me like Newcastle will be all in behind Man City on this one as if that fairness rule is struck down, it opens the door for PIF to flood Newcastle with money.

I don't know enough about the law in that area to know if the PL acted illegally or not.

Christmas Dynasnow
04-06-2024, 06:32 PM
Citeh using Saudi money to bully the league

absolutely Vile

Zizu
04-06-2024, 07:57 PM
Last night’s game was Southgate’s 94th in charge !!

We still don’t have tried and trusted playing system and won diddly squat squared !

Another wasted golden generation


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Christmas Dynasnow
04-06-2024, 08:04 PM
Last night’s game was Southgate’s 94th in charge !!

We still don’t have tried and trusted playing system and won diddly squat squared !

Another wasted golden generation


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really cant stand him

bots
04-06-2024, 08:36 PM
Southgate will be the new man u manager

Zizu
04-06-2024, 08:49 PM
Southgate will be the new man u manager


Perfect

I have detested them for about 40 years

:)


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Merry Mockmas
04-06-2024, 09:17 PM
She is generally accepted as England’s most gifted player and a role model - as such I would expect her to at least look reasonably fit/athletic.


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What if you got your wish and it ended up taking something away from her game?

The Slim Reaper
04-06-2024, 09:20 PM
What if you got your wish and it ended up taking something away from her game?

As long as he gets to perv at her thighs, he's ok with that trade off :laugh:

The Slim Reaper
04-06-2024, 09:22 PM
New look, new club?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPOSqDcXsAAJodC?format=jpg&name=small

Definite hair transplant. He's had those corners filled in.

bots
04-06-2024, 09:24 PM
if i were to get a hair transplant it would be a hell of a big corner :laugh:

Merry Mockmas
04-06-2024, 09:36 PM
As long as he gets to perv at her thighs, he's ok with that trade off :laugh:

I like to perv as much as the next person.

But not at the expense of hurting the Lionesses chance of performing well.:laugh:

Zizu
04-06-2024, 11:27 PM
As long as he gets to perv at her thighs, he's ok with that trade off :laugh:


Well I don’t watch women’s football .. basically because it’s pants - soooooo


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Zizu
04-06-2024, 11:28 PM
What if you got your wish and it ended up taking something away from her game?


How could being slimmer, lighter and faster be a negative though


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Merry Mockmas
05-06-2024, 05:29 AM
How could being slimmer, lighter and faster be a negative though


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Some players do play better being more bulky.

Zizu
05-06-2024, 08:43 AM
Some players do play better being more bulky.


Names ?



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Merry Mockmas
05-06-2024, 09:20 AM
Names ?



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Wayne Rooney
Troy Deeney
Akinfenwa (who used to play for Wycombe.)
Emile Heskey

They're just a few that I could think of.

Zizu
05-06-2024, 10:27 AM
Wayne Rooney
Troy Deeney
Akinfenwa (who used to play for Wycombe.)
Emile Heskey

They're just a few that I could think of.


That’s 4 out of 10,000 and Rooney was a freak of nature


:)


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Zizu
05-06-2024, 11:05 AM
TalkSport are reporting that Chelsea are trying to offload Gallagher for £50 million - his sale will apparently solve all their problems with ffp


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The Slim Reaper
05-06-2024, 11:08 AM
That’s 4 out of 10,000 and Rooney was a freak of nature


:)


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Neil Ruddock
John Barnes
Jan Molby
Gazza

Zizu
05-06-2024, 11:21 AM
Neil Ruddock
John Barnes
Jan Molby
Gazza


8

2 were freaks of nature

8 Dec 2023 — Overall, FIFA estimated that there were 123,694 professional soccer players worldwide.


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The Slim Reaper
05-06-2024, 11:30 AM
8

2 were freaks of nature

8 Dec 2023 — Overall, FIFA estimated that there were 123,694 professional soccer players worldwide.


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Maybe she is a freak of nature, too?

They will definitely be in the minority, but there will be hundreds/thousands of people who don't conform to what you have decided should be the standard.

Zizu
05-06-2024, 11:35 AM
Maybe she is a freak of nature, too?

They will definitely be in the minority, but there will be hundreds/thousands of people who don't conform to what you have decided should be the standard.


She ain’t no Gazza ..

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The Slim Reaper
05-06-2024, 11:57 AM
OK, zeez. You're getting perilously close to Arista levels of woman hate. I think I'll leave you to your opinion and keep it moving.

Zizu
05-06-2024, 12:12 PM
OK, zeez. You're getting perilously close to Arista levels of woman hate. I think I'll leave you to your opinion and keep it moving.


Women hate !?


I absolutely worship and adore women…

Just not a fan of women’s football / boxing or professional sportspeople not being professional ( fit) or female soccer pundits taking work off the more respected male counterparts

Edit

You suggested she may be a freak of nature when in fact she’s nothing special . She stands out because the level of the others is average ( at best) compared to proper football.
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Zizu
05-06-2024, 12:28 PM
Incidentally Gazza and Rooney were both unprofessional to their cost !

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We know all about Gazza and his indiscretions ..

Rooney

For, the feeling persists that Rooney could have eked more from his body. That might seem harsh, but the talent Rooney possessed dictates that his career should be measured against the highest standards.
And those standards are set by his former team-mate Ronaldo. Why? Well, there was, of course, a debate, roughly a decade ago, as to who was the better player. It seems almost laughable now. The debate becomes a little less laughable when it is crystallised down to who was the more talented player. It remains a debate with no definite answer. And the gulf in those two debates answers the question as to whether Rooney fulfilled his potential: the answer is no and by a distance.
The fact Rooney's most impressive showing in the international arena came at the Euros in 2004, when he was still an Everton player, demonstrates both the level of his potential at such a tender age and his inability to capitalise on it in the peak years of his career. Granted, there were mitigating factors, but his showings at international tournaments from that peak in Portugal were largely forgettable.
Alongside those mitigating circumstances, lies further context. Rooney, in this opinion, lived right on the edge of the guidelines, wavered at times and, as such, did not fulfil his incredible potential.
There are instances that add weight to the argument that Rooney had strayed outside these guidelines; like when he was dropped on New Year's Eve in 2011 for, what boss Sir Alex Ferguson saw as a "lethargic” showing in training following Christmas celebrations and in 2013, for the crucial Champions League second-leg tie against Real Madrid, he was once again jettisoned to the bench. Louis van Gaal also dropped him during his tenure. It is a failure of professionalism to be dropped for training indiscretions, and a failure that has not punctuated the careers of Ronaldo or Messi. Again this is not to say Rooney has not, did not and does not make huge sacrifices for his craft but has he made total sacrifice for his craft?


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Zizu
05-06-2024, 07:15 PM
Sooooooo

Why are ManU extending Johnny Evans’s contract BEFORE a decision on the manager has been made ?!?


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Zizu
05-06-2024, 07:16 PM
…. and why is Connor Gallagher earning just a quarter of Fernandez or Kickedo earn ?!?


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bots
05-06-2024, 08:21 PM
Sooooooo

Why are ManU extending Johnny Evans’s contract BEFORE a decision on the manager has been made ?!?


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because Man U are moving to a system where the manager has next to no input on who is in the squad. It stops the squad being a mismatch of incompatible players who were favoured by a long list of previous managers.

It's a sensible approach if you don't intend to keep a manager long term

Zizu
05-06-2024, 11:04 PM
Maddison has walked out of the England camp !!


Fell out with fecking Southgate apparently

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Merry Mockmas
05-06-2024, 11:09 PM
Maddison has walked out of the England camp !!


Fell out with fecking Southgate apparently

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Typical England player.

Zizu
05-06-2024, 11:14 PM
Typical England player.


Bladdy Southgate will blow yet another tournament
I dread to think who else he leaves out

Ezi , Palmer , TAA , Toney

I swear if he leaves out any of these fabulously talented guys to incorporate Shaw , Gallagher, Jones and Bowen then I will be supporting Spain


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Merry Mockmas
05-06-2024, 11:18 PM
Bladdy Southgate will blow yet another tournament
I dread to think who else he leaves out

Ezi , Palmer , TAA , Toney

I swear if he leaves out any of these fabulously talented guys to incorporate Shaw , Gallagher, Jones and Bowen then I will be supporting Spain


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I'll support England regardless.

I'm prepared for us to lose though, regardless of who gets picked.

Zizu
06-06-2024, 08:57 AM
Sounds like Jarell Quansah will be next to go home ffs


Don’t tell me flaming Dunk is a better option !

Quansah played at a better level all season , finished the season strongly .. whilst Dunk was possibly the main reason for Brighton’s poor season.. making loads of ricks !


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Zizu
06-06-2024, 11:22 AM
Curtis Jones has gone home ( no great loss)

Three players not able to train due to injuries

Dunk
Maguire
Shaw


Southgate is gonna mess things up before we even set off .. I can feel it in my water ..


He’s gonna send home a couple of the strikers plus Liverpool’s fabulous, in form defender Jarell Quansah and keep those three injured, blooper prone defenders above


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Zizu
06-06-2024, 03:12 PM
What the actual F*K. !!


Latest is Jack Grealish who’s been ditched along with Maddison !!


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Zizu
06-06-2024, 03:16 PM
Southgate reportedly sending home Maguire , Kuansa and Branthwaite !!


So that leaves Walker , Stones ( unfit ) , Dunk ( useless) and Luke Shaw ( lingering hamstring problem) !!

Keystone Kops defence and discarding two if our super-talented guys ( Grealish and Maddison )


We have no chance of winning !


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Cherry Christmas
06-06-2024, 04:28 PM
Grealish didn't play much for Citeh this year absolutely no loss

Christmas Dynasnow
06-06-2024, 04:36 PM
Here we go . . .
England’s final Euro 2024 squad announced.

Goalkeepers Dean Henderson (Crystal Palace), Jordan Pickford (Everton), Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal).

Defenders Lewis Dunk (Brighton & Hove Albion), Joe Gomez (Liverpool), Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), John Stones (Manchester City), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle United), Kyle Walker (Manchester City).

Midfielders Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Conor Gallagher (Chelsea), Kobbie Mainoo (Manchester United), Declan Rice (Arsenal), Adam Wharton (Crystal Palace).

Forwards: Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Jarrod Bowen (West Ham United), Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Anthony Gordon (Newcastle United), Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Cole Palmer (Chelsea), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Ivan Toney (Brentford), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa).

Christmas Dynasnow
06-06-2024, 04:37 PM
Who has missed out?

Jarrod Branthwaite
Harry Maguire
James Maddison
Jack Grealish
Jarrell Quansah
Curtis Jones
James Trafford

bots
06-06-2024, 04:59 PM
The Branthwaite omission is a bit suspect.

Luke Shaw will likely get injured again during the euros and be unavailable to play for united

Denver
06-06-2024, 05:04 PM
Quansah has had a stand out season and I feel he deserved to be there over the likes of Dunk, but it could come back to bite Southgate if he now choices to change nationalities

Denver
06-06-2024, 05:14 PM
Southgate has revealed Quansah is staying with the England squad and is on standby

Zizu
06-06-2024, 05:18 PM
Grealish didn't play much for Citeh this year absolutely no loss


He was just getting back to fitness though as was Maddison- both game changers .

Bowen’s final pass the other night was woeful plus he’s the 4th best in that position .


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Zizu
06-06-2024, 05:18 PM
The Branthwaite omission is a bit suspect.

Luke Shaw will likely get injured again during the euros and be unavailable to play for united


He’s a calculated risk apparently


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Zizu
06-06-2024, 05:21 PM
Quansah has had a stand out season and I feel he deserved to be there over the likes of Dunk, but it could come back to bite Southgate if he now choices to change nationalities


Mind boggling decision given Dunk has been hapless the last few months and Guehi gave the ball away at least 3 times the other night and in dangerous situations


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bots
06-06-2024, 06:16 PM
He’s a calculated risk apparently


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luke shaw didn't play when he was need in the last few games of the season, so he could be ready to play for england. There is a pretty good chance he will be injured again playing for england and then be unavailable to play for united for months. United pay his wages, it is all wrong

Zizu
07-06-2024, 01:42 AM
Apparently the German squad celebrated wildly after hearing that GREALISH had been culled- they had marked him as a major problem


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Merry Mockmas
07-06-2024, 02:52 AM
He was just getting back to fitness though as was Maddison- both game changers .

Bowen’s final pass the other night was woeful plus he’s the 4th best in that position .


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Grealish needs to move from Man City if he wants to get back into the England team.

He hasn't settled at Man City, I think West Ham wouldn't be a bad move for him as they're a decent team, and it could build his confidence back up.

bots
07-06-2024, 05:44 AM
grealish has been useless in more england games than he has been useful.

It's not about individuals, it's about a coherent team and Southgate hasn't worked that out yet or he would have players known for their team play rather than their individual ability

Merry Mockmas
07-06-2024, 06:00 AM
grealish has been useless in more england games than he has been useful.

It's not about individuals, it's about a coherent team and Southgate hasn't worked that out yet or he would have players known for their team play rather than their individual ability

Well it's a good thing that you said it first and not me, because nobody can accuse you of having an agenda against him because of him playing for Villa at one time, plus him also being a Villa fan.

Nicky91
07-06-2024, 01:07 PM
grealish has been useless in more england games than he has been useful.

It's not about individuals, it's about a coherent team and Southgate hasn't worked that out yet or he would have players known for their team play rather than their individual ability

you should give Koeman this advice though :skull:


him sticking with what he already knows (but has the mold on it): Daley Blind, Georginio Wijnaldum, rather than trying out something new

Zizu
07-06-2024, 01:15 PM
you should give Koeman this advice though :skull:


him sticking with what he already knows (but has the mold on it): Daley Blind, Georginio Wijnaldum, rather than trying out something new


I bet those two end up being the best players !


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Zizu
07-06-2024, 02:47 PM
There’s a story circulating suggesting that the senior players questioned Southgate as regards his decision to ditch Grealish .

They claimed they needed to know so they could explain the decision to the rest of the squad!!


Sounds like things aren’t quite as rosy as we are being led to believe!!


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Zizu
07-06-2024, 02:51 PM
SoccerAid on Sunday evening


Both teams are in training as we speak ..


Interestingly Theo Walcot has apparently challenged Usain Bolt to a sprint race .. not 100m but more likely 40 to 60 metres !!


If anyone learns the result or sees a clip please let us know in this thread. !


My money is on Theo !!


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Christmas Dynasnow
07-06-2024, 03:24 PM
SoccerAid on Sunday evening


Both teams are in training as we speak ..


Interestingly Theo Walcot has apparently challenged Usain Bolt to a sprint race .. not 100m but more likely 40 to 60 metres !!


If anyone learns the result or sees a clip please let us know in this thread. !


My money is on Theo !!





Always watch this

bots
07-06-2024, 04:09 PM
There’s a story circulating suggesting that the senior players questioned Southgate as regards his decision to ditch Grealish .

They claimed they needed to know so they could explain the decision to the rest of the squad!!


Sounds like things aren’t quite as rosy as we are being led to believe!!


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if anyone questions his decisions they will be sent home.

Grealish has played about 2 full games all season, he has been crap. It wouldn't surprise me if city offload him over the next few weeks

Zizu
07-06-2024, 05:10 PM
if anyone questions his decisions they will be sent home.

Grealish has played about 2 full games all season, he has been crap. It wouldn't surprise me if city offload him over the next few weeks


Yet the squad were still mystified


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bots
07-06-2024, 05:17 PM
the squad can be outwardly mystified while laughing on the inside. Grealish is a disruptive drunk

Zizu
07-06-2024, 06:00 PM
the squad can be outwardly mystified while laughing on the inside. Grealish is a disruptive drunk


When in reality .. he was by far the most popular lad in the dressing room


Martin Keown ( of all people) said that he would have taken just for his positive influence with the others who maybe away for 3 weeks or so


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Zizu
07-06-2024, 06:01 PM
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Zizu
07-06-2024, 06:02 PM
I would have taken Grealish and Maddison instead of Bowen and Gordon



The German dressing room are still cheering and laughing at the same time

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The Slim Reaper
07-06-2024, 06:03 PM
Apparently the German squad celebrated wildly after hearing that GREALISH had been culled- they had marked him as a major problem


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Yeah, that never happened.

Zizu
07-06-2024, 06:08 PM
Yeah, that never happened.

Well it did !

One of Germany’s top soccer writer /reporter relayed the whole story on TalkSport . They had even done sessions in response to all the free kicks they expected him to win on his side of the pitch.

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The Slim Reaper
07-06-2024, 06:12 PM
What do you want me to do with that? Firstly, Germán players aren't lining up to tell English journalists how weirded out they are by an English squad selection. Secondly, even that tiny sentence seems to be more about who is going instead of Grealish, and thirdly and finally, nothing in this miniscule amount of information indicates celebration.

Zizu
07-06-2024, 06:19 PM
What do you want me to do with that? Firstly, Germán players aren't lining up to tell English journalists how weirded out they are by an English squad selection. Secondly, even that tiny sentence seems to be more about who is going instead of Grealish, and thirdly and finally, nothing in this miniscule amount of information indicates celebration.


That is what was reported


You have to read between the lines like most things

The German guy on TalkSport told what happened behind the scenes in the dressing room .. these guys pay good money for little snippets from back room staff.

Obviously the official story won’t include any possibly embarrassing detais


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Zizu
07-06-2024, 06:26 PM
Moving on …

[emoji599]𝐉𝐔𝐒𝐓 𝐈𝐍! | Tottenham Hotspur are ready to submit a £40M bid to Brentford for striker Ivan Toney.

[emoji3456]Spurs are preparing a package of personal terms for the forward, who scored four goals in 17 Premier League games after returning from a suspension that prevented him from featuring in the first half of the season.


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07-06-2024, 06:28 PM
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07-06-2024, 06:40 PM
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