Premier League 2023-24 Season - General Discussion

[Zizu]

They just make stuff up about Barcelona. They havent even put in a bid for Silva. Barca simply don't have the cash


There’s a recent deal to raise cash just completed a few days ago - sold % of shares in one of their business interests

:)


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[bots]

There’s a recent deal to raise cash just completed a few days ago - sold % of shares in one of their business interests

:)


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they are barely in a position to cover wage costs, so taking on new players is going to hurt them

[Zizu]

they are barely in a position to cover wage costs, so taking on new players is going to hurt them


Hence the deal I just mentioned

Apparently Neymar was a done deal until Xavi closed it down .. he felt that Neymar would unsettle the changing room

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[Zizu]

Just been listening to City’s ex finance executive on TalkSport..
He says that Chelsea are deliberately failing the FFP guidelines… a calculated risk

Near guaranteed success and massive financial benefits against the risk of a nominal fine in the future ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1691192841031090177?s=20

[bots]

i liked that the only punishment handed out was to the wolves manager for losing his temper :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

blasting a ball from 2 foot onto someone's arm is a pen

that

no pen

🤡🤡🤡

[bots]

Just been listening to City’s ex finance executive on TalkSport..
He says that Chelsea are deliberately failing the FFP guidelines… a calculated risk

Near guaranteed success and massive financial benefits against the risk of a nominal fine in the future ..


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i think it's more wide ranging than that. It's only a matter of time until there is a tie up between Saudi and uefa/premier league. There is too much money on offer for these organisations to refuse. Once that happens ffp means nothing anyway

[bots]

blasting a ball from 2 foot onto someone's arm is a pen

that

no pen

🤡🤡🤡

so are you suggesting that when a corner comes in, a goalkeeper can't go for the ball when he is blocked by a player? I don't think so

[Zizu]

so are you suggesting that when a corner comes in, a goalkeeper can't go for the ball when he is blocked by a player? I don't think so


The ref has apparently been suspended


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[Crimson Dynamo]

so are you suggesting that when a corner comes in, a goalkeeper can't go for the ball when he is blocked by a player? I don't think so

the ref and var refs are suspended

that was a pen/assault

[Zizu]

i liked that the only punishment handed out was to the wolves manager for losing his temper :laugh:


Like a said the only way to compensation Wolves is to let them take a penalty at the start of the return fixture

:)


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[Zizu]

Pep Guardiola on Kevin De Bruyne

"It's a serious injury. We have to decide on surgery but he will be out for some time “

Paqueta incoming I think


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[Zizu]

Hopefully not correct


:

Chelsea have had offer accepted for less than 40m euros according to reliable french media.

Michael Olise to return to his boyhood club.

Personal terms had already been agreed

[bots]

Pep Guardiola on Kevin De Bruyne

"It's a serious injury. We have to decide on surgery but he will be out for some time “

Paqueta incoming I think


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De Bruyne likely to be out for 4 months

[Zizu]

De Bruyne likely to be out for 4 months


Plus a while to get fit to play .. he’s not the most natural athlete .. apparently constant struggle with his weight


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[Nicky91]

nah not Paqueta i think, more someone else on a loan deal would be more wise


4 months is not long, and when he's back, that replacement of his is on the bench, Paqueta wouldn't want that i reckon


--
same with Real Madrid now loaning Kepa as a replacement for Courtois and on a season loan deal, you can maybe also still use Kepa for the cup once Thibaut is back + Kepa will gain a lot of extra experience like this, upon returning to Chelsea next season

[Zizu]

nah not Paqueta i think, more someone else on a loan deal would be more wise


4 months is not long, and when he's back, that replacement of his is on the bench, Paqueta wouldn't want that i reckon


--
same with Real Madrid now loaning Kepa as a replacement for Courtois and on a season loan deal, you can maybe also still use Kepa for the cup once Thibaut is back + Kepa will gain a lot of extra experience like this, upon returning to Chelsea next season


They have already enquired about him .. this will make them more determined


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[Swan]

They have already enquired about him .. this will make them more determined


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It was also make West Ham's price go up for him

[Zizu]

It will also make West Ham's price go up for him


True


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[bots]

Paqueta will move to city, no way he will turn down that opportunity

[Zizu]

Paqueta will move to city, no way he will turn down that opportunity


Agreed


At least he will add a little inventiveness to their ‘paint by number’ style of play


It may help Barca get Silva out of there :)

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[Zizu]

At last a chance for the supposed generational talent Foden to start and shine in midfield tonight !


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[Zizu]

This game is crying out for KDB , Gündoğan and Mahrez


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[Mystic Mock]

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1691192841031090177?s=20

Well tbh we got a penalty against Leeds for less than what Onana did.

Tbf though there was no guarantee that Wolves would've scored the penalty if it was given anyway.

It looks like Wolves need to get a striker before the Window closes, but it doesn't take a genius to figure that out tbf.

[bots]

Chelsea fear Reece James will be out for months with a hamstring injury sustained in training

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So he lasted a week

[Swan]

It's so unfortunate and just when he got the captains armband too.

[Zizu]

It's so unfortunate and just when he got the captains armband too.


I’ve no idea what Poch was thinking


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[Mystic Mock]

Chelsea fear Reece James will be out for months with a hamstring injury sustained in training

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So he lasted a week

That's sad to hear.

We're getting a few prolonged injuries at the start of the season, I can't help but wonder if it is the amount of games that these people are playing is causing these lengthy injuries.

[bots]

That's sad to hear.

We're getting a few prolonged injuries at the start of the season, I can't help but wonder if it is the amount of games that these people are playing is causing these lengthy injuries.

i think it's also the type of game they are being expected to play these days. A high pressing tactic really takes it's toll, even on the fittest

[Zizu]

i think it's also the type of game they are being expected to play these days. A high pressing tactic really takes it's toll, even on the fittest


His injury record must be rivalling Darren Sick Note Anderton !!


Looks like he’s missed around 40 WEEKS of football in less than 3 seasons

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[Zizu]

Interesting https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230818/6635d0a5b37a6fc7288f24a405b03926.png


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[bots]

bournemouth goal disallowed after 1 minute :laugh:

[bots]

now its 1-0 for bournemouth after 2 mins :joker:

[bots]

liverpool have been crap

[bots]

1-1 Diaz

[bots]

now liverpool have conned a penalty 1-2

[bots]

Macallister sent off :laugh:

[Denver]

Macallister sent off :laugh:

Wasn't either a red but doesn't matter anyway

[Zizu]

Macallister sent off :laugh:


Endo time ?!


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[Swan]

Brighton are a remarkable team when you think about it. Just look at the players they've sold, and how they continue to produce such talent.

[Zizu]

Brighton are a remarkable team when you think about it. Just look at the players they've sold, and how they continue to produce such talent.


I’d love it if they beat Chelsea when they play them :)


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[Swan]

I’d love it if the beat Chelsea when they play them :)


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They probably will, they thrashed us last season.

[bots]

united are looking sharper tonight

Onanananana is adding an extra dimension too

[bots]

2nd half, united have been very poor

[Swan]

2nd half, united have been very poor

How did Rashford and Mount play?

[bots]

How did Rashford and Mount play?

rubbish, the midfield just doesnt work now

[Swan]

rubbish, the midfield just doesnt work now

Mount is gonna be one of those young English players who peaks in their early 20's, massive hype surrounding them, then they become an average/below average players for the rest of their careers.


Rashford is quality, he proved that in the 2nd half of last season, just hope for his sake he can find that form again.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Man U were terrible

every man

Mount a disgrace

Bruno is never a captain

this team wont get top 10

shocking pish

[Zizu]

They probably will, they thrashed us last season.


Only because Caicedo and the other guy ( from Southampton who would have been guaranteed a starting place in a very good Liverpool team) have put £££ ahead of their career


So I’d like to see them see the error of their ways :)


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[Zizu]

Man U were terrible

every man

Mount a disgrace

Bruno is never a captain

this team wont get top 10

shocking pish


Mount wasn’t that bad he’s just suffering in a rank bad team

Fernandes was MIA again as did Casemiro who were useless .


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[bots]

at least McTominay tries, but he is completely out of favour with ten hag

[Crimson Dynamo]

at least McTominay tries, but he is completely out of favour with ten hag

I said to the boy this game needs McTominay

[Zizu]

What is is with the refs and Martinez !!

He’s the filthiest player in the league yet he gets away with murder week after week .


He reminds me of Pepe where every challenge is actually a foul as he leaves his foot in every time and leads with his elbows .

Oh and how was that not a penalty??

He took Romaro out and hurt the guy … no penalty no yellow .. just play on .

There’s only one player equal or slightly more nasty in Europe and that’s the thug from Getafe .. Damián Suárez


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[Zizu]

On a positive note

The best two players by far that I’ve seen are

Bissouma for Spurs

AND

Szoboszlai for Liverpool


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[bots]

i will be surprised if city don't get turned over tonight

[Zizu]

i will be surprised if city don't get turned over tonight


I want them both to lose … so I guess I’ll be happy with a bloodbath draw with a few sendings off


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[bots]

that looks like a broken/dislocated shoulder

[Swan]

I know it's not PL, but talking of insanely young talented Brits, Bellingham has on a hatrick for Real right now.

[bots]

liverpool should have signed him

[bots]

haalands first touch has been poor recently

[Crimson Dynamo]

liverpool should have signed him

absolutely

total lack of ambition

[bots]

boom

[bots]

great goal

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1692975357673062401?s=20

[bots]

ten hag will sort it out, but it's been a couple of grim games, and liverpool are due up soon :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

ten hag will sort it out, but it's been a couple of grim games, and liverpool are due up soon :laugh:

easy 3 points incoming..:joker:

[bots]

Man U had 2 goalkeepers on the bench today :crazy:

[bots]

newcastle are very dirty

[Zizu]

newcastle are very dirty


I actually hate them .. shame that Isak plays for them as I like him


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[Zizu]

Man U had 2 goalkeepers on the bench today :crazy:


Their goalie is their most creative player and best passer

LOL


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[Zizu]

ten hag will sort it out, but it's been a couple of grim games, and liverpool are due up soon :laugh:


It’s crazy how all their players are underperforming


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[Crimson Dynamo]

putting the boot in

[bots]

foden has played a blinder tonight

[Zizu]

that looks like a broken/dislocated shoulder


Tough

He elbowed Haaland in the neck then fell and hurt himself


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[Zizu]

foden has played a blinder tonight


True enough


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[bots]

there was a noticeable gulf in quality between city and newcastle and that was after they played in searing heat in mid week

[Mystic Mock]

i think it's also the type of game they are being expected to play these days. A high pressing tactic really takes it's toll, even on the fittest

Fair point.

[Swan]

How on earth did they give a penalty for that Szoboszlai dive? :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

i will be surprised if city don't get turned over tonight

Well Bristol City got turned over if that counts.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

How on earth did they give a penalty for that Szoboszlai dive? :joker:

Was it like watching Argentina play at the Qatar World Cup kinda dive?

I haven't seen the game yet.

[Swan]

Was it like watching Argentina play at the Qatar World Cup kinda dive?

I haven't seen the game yet.

It was just so blatant, it was ridiculous.

Im watching MOTD, i'd almost forgot how bad Pearce was on commentary.

[Mystic Mock]

It was just so blatant, it was ridiculous.

Im watching MOTD, i'd almost forgot how bad Pearce was on commentary.

Fair enough.

MOTD is an iconic Show imo, I do remember the analysis from some of the pundits being wild though.:joker:

But tbf people like Stuart Pearce add to these kinds of Shows imo.

[Zizu]

How on earth did they give a penalty for that Szoboszlai dive? :joker:


The refs are all over the place ..

It was a 50/50 to my mind but why don’t refs take a look at every penalty claim ?

There’s been quite a few clear cut penalties completely waived away by refs and not even checked .

Forest should have had one today as should Spurs when Martinez clearly hacked down Romero


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[bots]

klopp complaining about the sending off, yet macalister went in with his studs .... clear red card

[Swan]

Klopp is like Mourinho, always think the refs are against him and his team. Always ranting about "injustices"

[bots]

Aston Villa are far superior to everton

[Crimson Dynamo]

Aston Villa are far superior to everton

Certainly up front

[bots]

they are ripping through evertons defence

[Crimson Dynamo]

omg that was shocking 4-0

[Swan]

Duran Duran

[bots]

everton will find it difficult to get off the bottom if they continue to play like that

[bots]

swan does a :rant:

[Swan]

Couldn't fit a fag paper between that, literally the closest call for offside ever

[Crimson Dynamo]

Miles offside

https://media.tenor.com/0T9VEI1iM5YAAAAC/father-ted.gif

[Swan]

https://kuzmitch.ru/files/2010/gif/father_ted-middle_finger.gif

[Swan]

**** me Jackson, he was on fire pre season, just shows pre season means **** all

[bots]

good goal

[Swan]

Lets goooooo

[bots]

at this point in the game last season, chelsea had already given up :laugh:

[Swan]

2 games in a row, start sluggish, go a goal behind and it lights a fire in our arses

[Swan]

****ING ****!!!!!!!

[bots]

haha

[bots]

sterling has had a good game

[Swan]

Jackson is complete ****

[Swan]

Yeah he has

[Swan]

Seriously, if Chelsea had someone up front who could finish, this game would be over!!

[bots]

oops

[Swan]

No excuses, had plenty of chances, this game should have been won in the first half. Just the Usual load of wank

[bots]

How can Paqueta argue that :laugh:

[Swan]

dogsh!te

[Crimson Dynamo]

sterling has had a good game

flatters to deceive

[Swan]

cba, going to sit out in the sun and have a beer

[Crimson Dynamo]

what a save!

[bots]

just as well swan left :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Get in

:dance2:

[bots]

the new record signing has had a mare of a start :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

the new record signing has had a mare of a start :laugh:

2 assists from JWP

[The Slim Reaper]

Another billion spend, and 150 year contracts on the way.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/PenaCartel/status/1693314892856434716?s=20

[Swan]

This is the beginning of the end for Chelsea. When the American owner gets bored (which im sure he is already) and pisses off, no one will want to get anywhere near us and we'll collapse under the wage bill. It's all over. Had a good run, on and off in the past 20 years, but we're done as a team. Spend over 50 trillion pounds, don't have a striker who can score, ever. Paid a billion for Enzo, useless prick who was carried in the world cup. Arista would be better than Mudryk. Our 2nd best player today and goal scorer off injured at HT (unlucky). Jackson played well in pre season, is now complete and utter fcuking sh!t when it matters. Can't seem to find a keeper. I love him, but our captain is 387 years old, yet we invest in all this youth????

Our best player today was Sterling, tragic. We're finished as a football club. It's done!

[The Slim Reaper]

You're backhand funded by Saudi Arabia. If Boehly gets bored, he'll be replaced. Chelsea will just keep spending until the law of averages takes over.

[Swan]

We deserve all the memes and sh!te.

[Swan]

You're backhand funded by Saudi Arabia. If Boehly gets bored, he'll be replaced. Chelsea will just keep spending until the law of averages takes over.

Nah it's done. I know you say about Liverpool scared to spend, but at least they aren't pathetic cucks like Chelsea and pay 9000000% more than a player is worth, on every single ****ing player.

[Swan]

That Enzo pen was disgusting. £100000000000000m for that??? Sad.

[The Slim Reaper]

Nah it's done. I know you say about Liverpool scared to spend, but at least they aren't pathetic cucks like Chelsea and pay 9000000% more than a player is worth, on every single ****ing player.

That's what I'm saying - you'll never be done because your backers will throw money at the wall until eventually something sticks. Liverpool have to get everything at least 90% right, just to compete at the top.

[bots]

i would be more positive, they are not far off from clicking, they just need to settle down

[Denver]

klopp complaining about the sending off, yet macalister went in with his studs .... clear red card

Wasn't a red just had people on VAR who hate us, let's not forget we had Gakpo have studs scraped across his chest last year that was deemed acceptable

[The Slim Reaper]

That said, I do think Chelsea are ruining careers with the contracts they're offering out, especially with the 7 year nonsense. Lavia would be starting for Liverpool, yet he could just be a league cup player for Chelsea.

[bots]

I've said it a few times now, but spending rules are going out of the window. Saudi offers the chance of too much money for anyone across europe to refuse

[Swan]

That's what I'm saying - you'll never be done because your backers will throw money at the wall until eventually something sticks. Liverpool have to get everything at least 90% right, just to compete at the top.

I don't agree, the market has changed, throwing money at the problem wont help teams anymore. You build from the ground up, get a unit and stick with it, adding a couple players at the most during the windows. Arsenal are a good example of this.

Pep and his City team don't apply as they're on a different level. Even when Liverpool are poor they can get results, and have a solid enough united team. Ever Spurs ffs, they're fighting after losing their best player. Newcastle are solid enough. Man Utd, i dunno about them.

We have the might of, and powerhouses Luton Town on Friday, it'll be a bloodbath.

[Swan]

i would be more positive, they are not far off from clicking, they just need to settle down

Nah, if we're gonna spend, what we needed to do was offer PSG a billion for Mbappe and hope for a striker who can score. The last striker we had who could score, here and there, was Costa, and he was let go by Wolves ffs,

[Zizu]

I've said it a few times now, but spending rules are going out of the window. Saudi offers the chance of too much money for anyone across europe to refuse


It’s generally accepted that Chelsea will be punished eventually for rule violations but it could take some time ( like the City case) but Chelsea are stockpiling players in the event off a transfer embargo


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[The Slim Reaper]

I don't agree, the market has changed, throwing money at the problem wont help teams anymore. You build from the ground up, get a unit and stick with it, adding a couple players at the most during the windows. Arsenal are a good example of this.

Pep and his City team don't apply as they're on a different level. Even when Liverpool are poor they can get results, and have a solid enough united team. Ever Spurs ffs, they're fighting after losing their best player. Newcastle are solid enough. Man Utd, i dunno about them.

We have the might of, and powerhouses Luton Town on Friday, it'll be a bloodbath.

Chelsea were about to go into administration in 2003 until Roman happened to fly over the stadium on his way to spurs, so I don't think you quite remember how quickly fortunes can change, especially when unlimited money is involved. You'll be fine, and never in the history of modernish football, has too much money been a problem or disadvantage. This squad with Nkunku up front and Poch in charge, will be a beast when everything comes together and settles down.

[The Slim Reaper]

I've said it a few times now, but spending rules are going out of the window. Saudi offers the chance of too much money for anyone across europe to refuse

Saudi could be a way for the greenwood stuff to end. Not like they will have a problem with that recording, and united get in £30/40million in the process.

[Swan]

Chelsea were about to go into administration in 2003 until Roman happened to fly over the stadium on his way to spurs, so I don't think you quite remember how quickly fortunes can change, especially when unlimited money is involved. You'll be fine, and never in the history of modernish football, has too much money been a problem or disadvantage. This squad with Nkunku up front, and Poch in charge, will be a beast when everything comes together when everything settles down.

The only, and i mean only excuse is we have been plagued with injuries over the past couple years. That said, we are just so poor at times, and never look like a threat. It's depressing.

Maybe if Nkunku had been playing today he could have finished all those chances missed by Jackson. I dunno.

I hope you're right Slim. But i dunno, we flirted with Administration back then, but in my opinion, even if Roman hadn't come along Chelsea would have survived. Securing CL football on the last day would have confirmed our safety.

[Swan]

Saudi could be a way for the greenwood stuff to end. Not like they will have a problem with that recording, and united get in £30/40million in the process.

Also, yeah i agree with that about Greenwood.

[Swan]

Also, when Chelsea spent big money all those years ago, we actually brought decent players, not one hit wonders and overrated/hyped players like we do today.

[bots]

Saudi could be a way for the greenwood stuff to end. Not like they will have a problem with that recording, and united get in £30/40million in the process.

Jose has offered to take him at Roma, so it's not like the guy doesn't have options

[The Slim Reaper]

The only, and i mean only excuse is we have been plagued with injuries over the past couple years. That said, we are just so poor at times, and never look like a threat. It's depressing.

Maybe if Nkunku had been playing today he could have finished all those chances missed by Jackson. I dunno.

I hope you're right Slim. But i dunno, we flirted with Administration back then, but in my opinion, even if Roman hadn't come along Chelsea would have survived. Securing CL football on the last day would have confirmed our safety.

You did more than flirt, you were less than a week away from admin. Club would have survived, but you'd have dropped at least a division.

Nkunku is ridiculous - you've got an absolute star in the making with that dude. you're suffering recency bias because you're pissed at today, but the future for Chelsea, is (unfortunately) extremely bright.

[Swan]

We should have never sold Hazard.I know he bombed at Real due to injury etc, but he was a leader at Chelsea. He was a core player. We have no core now.

Remember the spine of Chelsea back then - Cech....Terry....Lamps....Drogba.

[Crimson Dynamo]

red card all day long

https://e0.365dm.com/23/08/768x432/skysports-alexis-mac-allister_6256538.jpg?20230819213232

[Swan]

You did more than flirt, you were less than a week away from admin. Club would have survived, but you'd have dropped at least a division.

Nkunku is ridiculous - you've got an absolute star in the making with that dude. you're suffering recency bias because you're pissed at today, but the future for Chelsea, is (unfortunately) extremely bright.

My point is, that win over your lot for CL qualification would have a meant a buyer would have came in, even if RA hadn't. But i still think even if we finished 5th, we'd have been alright. I know it was touch and go, but people say RA saved us from collapse, that's bollocks imo.

No, sorry Slim, it doesn't look bright at all.

[Denver]

red card all day long

https://e0.365dm.com/23/08/768x432/skysports-alexis-mac-allister_6256538.jpg?20230819213232

Half of second the other way its would have been different, would you be wanting the Bournemouth player sent off? They both went for the ball both side footed they are heading to a situation where all tackles will be banned

[Denver]

You did more than flirt, you were less than a week away from admin. Club would have survived, but you'd have dropped at least a division.

Nkunku is ridiculous - you've got an absolute star in the making with that dude. you're suffering recency bias because you're pissed at today, but the future for Chelsea, is (unfortunately) extremely bright.

Actually if you get expelled from the PL then you will likely be denied entry into the football league and would have to go right to the bottom of the pyramid

[Swan]

Im not being funny Slim (i was actually hoping to make a truce with you anyway, this place is like boiling pot at times, you know how it is), but how many Chelsea games have you watched in the past 9 months?

We look soooooo bad. We actually played ok in the first half today, and second half against Liverpool. But it's just nowhere near good enough.

[The Slim Reaper]

Actually if you get expelled from the PL then you will likely be denied entry into the football league and would have to go right to the bottom of the pyramid

That's not how administration works. What happened to Leeds is what I think would have happened to Chelsea, as they would have got a points deduction and be forced to sell most of their players at the time, with then strict limits on how much they could spend on replacements.

[Swan]

Actually if you get expelled from the PL then you will likely be denied entry into the football league and would have to go right to the bottom of the pyramid

The worst they're gonna get is a points deduction, which for sure see us relegated at this rate.

[Zizu]

Saudi could be a way for the greenwood stuff to end. Not like they will have a problem with that recording, and united get in £30/40million in the process.


I reckon they will welcome him back into the fold tomorrow or Tuesday ..


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[bots]

it's very early days yet. I get the frustration with chelsea, but there is some genuine quality there. They dont have the champions league to worry about, which gives them much more time on the training ground. They will be fine

[Swan]

it's very early days yet. I get the frustration with chelsea, but there is some genuine quality there. They dont have the champions league to worry about, which gives them much more time on the training ground. They will be fine

Not in the same realm of Chelsea's spending over the years, but Utd have thrown huge money at the problem and got them nowhere title of CL contenders.

[The Slim Reaper]

Im not being funny Slim (i was actually hoping to make a truce with you anyway, this place is like boiling pot at times, you know how it is), but how many Chelsea games have you watched in the past 9 months?

We look soooooo bad. We actually played ok in the first half today, and second half against Liverpool. But it's just nowhere near good enough.

Didn't think you were being funny, but not really sure there is any mileage left in this topic, as it's just me going "Chelsea will be good when it settles down" and you going "no they won't."

You have a great manager and an absolute star in Nkunku. you've got a new team thrown together, and a new manager. Of course things don't instantly start working from day one. How did Pep do in his first season at city? He was mocked and laughed at at times, as his team were conceding goals from playing out that the back - now every team does it.

Any team that spends, spends, spends will never be a permanent failure, and if it was Spurs (as an example) who had your team, manager, and money, you'd be more objective, and you'd see it. When we were winning the league and Cl, I was busy pointing out it wouldn't last because of not spending, when winning the league in my adult lifetime was not something I ever expected to see - and I was still negative about the future, so my point is this; you'll spend until you get it right, so just enjoy it. it's far worse being a club hovering around top 6 (like us), than a team that has massive highs and massive lows.

[bots]

Have Man U ever not qualified for europe since fergie? I don't think so. There are different measures of success, most of which are genuinely meaningless and are supporter driven. Man U are still one of the biggest football businesses in the world as are chelsea. Liverpool, Newcastle, Arsenal don't come close. As long as there is that differential, Chelsea and Man U will always have the best opportunities to succeed on the pitch

[The Slim Reaper]

Have Man U ever not qualified for europe since fergie? I don't think so. There are different measures of success, most of which are genuinely meaningless and are supporter driven. Man U are still one of the biggest football businesses in the world as are chelsea. Liverpool, Newcastle, Arsenal don't come close. As long as there is that differential, Chelsea and Man U will always have the best opportunities to succeed on the pitch

I think I've been pretty objective about my team and others, but saying that Liverpool don't get close to united and Chelsea is weird. We just have owners who won't spend and won't sell, because they use the fact they own Liverpool as collateral to help them buy other sports teams. We've been in the top 3 for revenues in world footie over the last 5 years, behind city and Madrid.

I would never underplay the size of united, so come on dude, this is weird.

[Swan]

Out of curiosity, why don't Liverpool spend more, i mean with a few extra players you could seriously compete against City, and in Europe?!

[The Slim Reaper]

Out of curiosity, why don't Liverpool spend more, i mean with a few extra players you could seriously compete against City, and in Europe?!

Owners.

It's as simple as that.

FFP allows owners to pay for stadium improvements without any punishment. FSG have taken loans out to increase the stadium capacity (which only increases their value of the club for a sale), and made the club pay the loans back, so we've had around £400m taken out of our transfer budget over last 5-8 years to pay for a bigger stadium for the owners eventual sale price.

They also believed they FFP was stricter than it was, so they thought top clubs would only have about £50m to spend every season.

Here''s the real kicker - without coutinho being sold, we would never have bought VVD and Allisson, so would never have won anything. So even though they've seen how great we can be with a bit of investment, they don't care, and have no interest in spending anything.

[Swan]

Owners.

It's as simple as that.

FFP allows owners to pay for stadium improvements without any punishment. FSG have taken loans out to increase the stadium capacity (which only increases their value of the club for a sale), and made the club pay the loans back, so we've had around £400m taken out of our transfer budget over last 5-8 years to pay for a bigger stadium for the owners eventual sale price.

They also believed they FFP was stricter than it was, so they thought top clubs would only have about £50m to spend every season.

Here''s the real kicker - without coutinho being sold, we would never have bought VVD and Allisson, so would never have won anything. So even though they've seen how great we can be with a bit of investment, they don't care, and have no interest in spending anything.

So, they put 20% in success, 80% in profit? Ish?

[The Slim Reaper]

So, they put 20% in success, 80% in profit? Ish?

I think top 4 every season is more than enough for them. This was easily manageable on a minimal budget for a club our size with klopp in charge, but now Newcastle have come to the party, and Arsenal are back, it's looking like we'll be a top 6 club rather than a top 4 one until they fcuk off, and even then, I expect them to sell to their US friends, who will put the cost of the club back on us to pay for, like Hicks and Gillette, and the glazers, which will screw us even further into the dirt, and will leave us mid table.

[Swan]

I think top 4 every season is more than enough for them. This was easily manageable on a minimal budget for a club our size with klopp in charge, but now Newcastle have come to the party, and Arsenal are back, it's looking like we'll be a top 6 club rather than a top 4 one until they fcuk off, and even then, I expect them to sell to their US friends, who will put the cost of the club back on us to pay for, like Hicks and Gillette, and the glazers, which will screw us even further into the dirt, and will leave us mid table.

A team we've all failed to mention for top 4 contenders here is Brighton. Seriously impressive team all things considered.

[The Slim Reaper]

A team we've all failed to mention for top 4 contenders here is Brighton. Seriously impressive team all things considered.

Might be a threat for 2 years, but will eventually sell enough good players that they don't replace well enough and will drop. I think they'll be back in the football league within a decade.

[bots]

Southampton were the original variant of brighton and look where they are now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Southampton were the original variant of brighton and look where they are now.

only smashing Plymouth in the "no one cares about you south coast ponces derby 2-1"

think on bots

think on..

[Swan]

Might be a threat for 2 years, but will eventually sell enough good players that they don't replace well enough and will drop. I think they'll be back in the football league within a decade.

Southampton were the original variant of brighton and look where they are now.

Nah, Brighton built the Amex and haven't looked back since. They sell good players, but carry on producing quality. What would Mitoma, March and Encsio be worth???

And i see Pedro coming good.

They have funds now too, mostly thanks to Chelsea being gung ho with signings. I honestly think they'll be fine.

[MTVN]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5639&stc=1&d=1692561401

[MTVN]

Just sold my car, to bet on Paqueta :dance2:

[MTVN]

Well that's well and truly made up for the Lionesses

[Zizu]

A team we've all failed to mention for top 4 contenders here is Brighton. Seriously impressive team all things considered.


Yeah after two games

Arsenal or Liverpool to win
Man City 3rd
Brighton or Spurs 4 th


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[Denver]

Out of curiosity, why don't Liverpool spend more, i mean with a few extra players you could seriously compete against City, and in Europe?!

A number of things but had out contracts with crazy bonuses to everyone that made us have the highest wage bill and Klopp refusing to sell players who were not good enough hasn't helped, and the club overspent on the years before Klopp on players nowhere near good enough that we had to sell for crazy losses.

Also Americans expect money back so will always limit what they spend to maximise profits and I also belive FSG have way to many sports teams aswell as planning to buy more to even have enough money for their team which is why a sale is vital but I belive they are waiting to get their maximum profit although John Henry isn't getting any younger and I cant see him wanting to keep the team for much longer so I kinda feel they will sell when Klopp leaves in 3 years so they can let new owners deal with the next steps for the club.

Fun fact though we were meant to be what City became but our greedy former owners pulled the plug on a Dubai takeover after agreeing to it, they also did the same when China came calling but Chinese owners have a terrible track record

[Denver]

Thiugh I really wouldn't be surprised to see Liberty Media take a stake in us especially when them and FSG are besties

[Zizu]

Interesting

[emoji599] Jota is already set to leave Al-Ittihad, just one month after moving to Saudi Arabia! [emoji1201] [emoji15][emoji777][emoji1210]

No additional information has been given on the reason for his departure.


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[bots]

Gunners defender Jurrien Timber suffered a serious knee injury last weekend on his Premier League debut and will be out for around seven months.

[bots]

brighton have europe this season and they don't have the squad depth to cope, so, they will be lucky to finish in the top 10

[bots]

Does anyone know the reasoning for everton fans booing DCL after he had to come off with concussion ? It's a bit of a weird way for fans to behave

[The Slim Reaper]

Does anyone know the reasoning for everton fans booing DCL after he had to come off with concussion ? It's a bit of a weird way for fans to behave

I believe the reason is that it's Everton.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just sold my car, to bet on Paqueta :dance2:

:joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

A number of things but had out contracts with crazy bonuses to everyone that made us have the highest wage bill and Klopp refusing to sell players who were not good enough hasn't helped, and the club overspent on the years before Klopp on players nowhere near good enough that we had to sell for crazy losses.

Also Americans expect money back so will always limit what they spend to maximise profits and I also belive FSG have way to many sports teams aswell as planning to buy more to even have enough money for their team which is why a sale is vital but I belive they are waiting to get their maximum profit although John Henry isn't getting any younger and I cant see him wanting to keep the team for much longer so I kinda feel they will sell when Klopp leaves in 3 years so they can let new owners deal with the next steps for the club.

Fun fact though we were meant to be what City became but our greedy former owners pulled the plug on a Dubai takeover after agreeing to it, they also did the same when China came calling but Chinese owners have a terrible track record

Klopp has been there 7 years. Are you suggesting, that signing Andy Carroll is now impacting the available funds? Nonsense.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Does anyone know the reasoning for everton fans booing DCL after he had to come off with concussion ? It's a bit of a weird way for fans to behave

i guess they are fed up with him rivaling Darren Anderton

[Crimson Dynamo]

Despite spunking £164,000,000:shocked: already this summer Man U are pish

United have faced 40 shots in 2 games, only Bournemouth (42) have faced more

Last season United won just 6 points away against prem top 12

Across 20 away matched United goal diff was -13

Since TH took over United have lost 9 away games and won just 8

[bots]

the united midfield are not operating as a unit, thats why spurs and wolves cut through them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the united midfield are not operating as a unit, thats why spurs and wolves cut through them.

i think the last 4 windows have been pretty bad (casimero aside)

mount :umm2:
anthony
lisandro
malacia
sancho
varane
ronaldo
van de beek
diallo
telles
pellistri

[bots]

the most obvious indicator is that nobody wants the players that are surplus to requirements

[Crimson Dynamo]

all 3 men tonight in the studio with those dreadful white bumper trainers on tonight

absolute sheep

and that awful shoehorned in wummin :facepalm:

[Zizu]

Havertz has started well !


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[bots]

palace have started well

[bots]

i didnt think that was a penalty

[Swan]

It was a foul by the Arsenal player on the edge of the box for sure. The Palace player had seen what was about to happen and made his run, but was pushed off balance before he could close down Nketiah

[bots]

i don't see this as a title challenger performance from arsenal

[Zizu]

i don't see this as a title challenger performance from arsenal


There’s still time for transfers

Plus they are missing Jesus , Zinchenko and Timber …and still trying to get a tune out of Rice and Havertz


I think they’re missing Xhaka badly


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[Mystic Mock]

they are ripping through evertons defence

Tbf 90 year olds could rip through Everton's defense at the moment.

But granted I do think that Villa look strong going forward under Emery.

[Mystic Mock]

only smashing Plymouth in the "no one cares about you south coast ponces derby 2-1"

think on bots

think on..

Tbh I'm nervous about us playing Plymouth.:laugh:

The fact that they only narrowly lost to Southampton is one of the main reasons why I'm nervous.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

i think the last 4 windows have been pretty bad (casimero aside)

mount :umm2:
anthony
lisandro
malacia
sancho
varane
ronaldo
van de beek
diallo
telles
pellistri

Tbf Ronaldo carried them in that particular season.

[Zizu]

i think the last 4 windows have been pretty bad (casimero aside)

mount :umm2:
anthony
lisandro
malacia
sancho
varane
ronaldo
van de beek
diallo
telles
pellistri


Martinez is a nasty , cynical bar steward but a great defender and the rightful captain of United

Mount will be fabulous addition


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[bots]

There’s still time for transfers

Plus they are missing Jesus , Zinchenko and Timber …and still trying to get a tune out of Rice and Havertz


I think they’re missing Xhaka badly


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timber is out for 6 months, so basically forget him this season

[bots]

Manchester City released this statement: "Guardiola has been suffering with severe back pain for some time lately, and flew out to Barcelona for emergency surgery performed by Dr Mireia Illueca. The surgery was a success, and Pep will now recover and rehabilitate in Barcelona.

"In his absence, assistant manager Juanma Lillo will oversee coaching of the first team on the training field and will assume duties on the touchline until Pep’s return. He is expected to return after the forthcoming international break.

"Everyone at Manchester City wishes Pep a speedy recovery, and look forward to seeing him back in Manchester soon."

[Crimson Dynamo]

@ Swan

Dont worry mate

https://twitter.com/centregoals/status/1693641585525735646?s=20

[Nicky91]

Manchester City released this statement: "Guardiola has been suffering with severe back pain for some time lately, and flew out to Barcelona for emergency surgery performed by Dr Mireia Illueca. The surgery was a success, and Pep will now recover and rehabilitate in Barcelona.

"In his absence, assistant manager Juanma Lillo will oversee coaching of the first team on the training field and will assume duties on the touchline until Pep’s return. He is expected to return after the forthcoming international break.

"Everyone at Manchester City wishes Pep a speedy recovery, and look forward to seeing him back in Manchester soon."

wishing you a speedy recovery Pep, you legend :hug:

[Zizu]

Mac Allister ban overturned in appeal !!


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[Swan]

@ Swan

Dont worry mate

https://twitter.com/centregoals/status/1693641585525735646?s=20

And i wasn't even gonna drink today!!!

[Zizu]

@ Swan

Dont worry mate

https://twitter.com/centregoals/status/1693641585525735646?s=20


I’d be happy to just see him do this in a game ..
.. or in the warmup

https://youtube.com/shorts/21siGyLMTFk?si=pjVCSd9BAvSctLLh


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[Denver]

Klopp has been there 7 years. Are you suggesting, that signing Andy Carroll is now impacting the available funds? Nonsense.

They are americans, once they start losing money they will reign in the spending as much as possible no matter what changes

[The Slim Reaper]

They are americans, once they start losing money they will reign in the spending as much as possible no matter what changes

Right, so that isn't a reply to the question I asked you. Are you saying that signing Andy Carroll is the reason we can't now compete financially with Villa?

because that's insane. The most obvious answer is that FSG have always been terrible owners, and I haven't liked them from day one, because I knew exactly what they are.

Don't invest in the squad when we were on top, because CL money was rolling in.
Now can't invest in the squad because we don't have CL.

These ***** will do to the same managed decline on the club, as thatcher did on the city.

[The Slim Reaper]

1693935162210299989

[Zizu]

Kai Havertz

https://youtu.be/AfNNvDtfU5U


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[bots]

Manchester United midfielder Mason Mount is set to miss the club's next two Premier league matches with injury.

The Red Devils said Mount is expected to be out until after the international break because of a "small complaint" sustained in last weekend's 2-0 defeat by Tottenham.

:facepalm:

[bots]

Sheikh Jassim is set to complete a full £6bn takeover of Man Utd by mid-October and his team is currently completing due diligence on the club

[Zizu]

Oh dear , how sad , never mind

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230823/9faa000557acef442ee203c59ef929df.png


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[bots]

thats an old story

[Zizu]

thats an old story


Dated 19th August .. it resurfaced on the radio a few days ago .. that’s why I searched online


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[bots]

it was reported when he arrived at united

[Zizu]

it was reported when he arrived at united


Yes I remember .. but the story was on the radio a few days ago .. I just presumed it was developing further .. then I found that webpage also just a few days old


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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/MadnessFc4/status/1694661881200599195?s=20

[Zizu]

With all the talk about the damn Saudi league .. just look at the pace , closing down and defending !

This is all you need to know about the Saudi league

https://x.com/trollfootball/status/1695009263016411521?s=46&t=4Bt0aqTthADTQG3kMIaXcg


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[bots]

https://i.gifer.com/5gp.gif

[Zizu]

Caicedo must be feeling the pressure..

He just tried a simple turn and spin .. and fell over !!


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[Zizu]

Fernandez and the old Argentinian trick of tackling and leading with an elbow .. Martinez does that most of the time


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Caicedo must be feeling the pressure..

He just tried a simple turn and spin .. and fell over !!


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He has been ****

[Zizu]

He has been ****


Crazy that he had possibly the worst debut of all time costing £115 million whilst Barca gave a debut to a 16 year old schoolboy who had a marvellous debut


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[bots]

great goal

[Zizu]

Great run and goal from Sterling

Wow


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[Zizu]

Gallagher running the show


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[bots]

what a wonderful name .... Marvelous Nakamba :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jackson looks sh it

[Dogeatdog]

Idk why I predicted Luton would win this game, I thought they might’ve got an upset victory but I can’t see it happening.

[Zizu]

Jackson looks sh it


He has massive potential in my view .

Just needs a goal or two


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[Zizu]

Idk why I predicted Luton would win this game, I thought they might’ve got an upset victory but I can’t see it happening.


They look favourites to go back down tbh


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[Zizu]

That’s the real Sterling :)



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[bots]

luton are going to score a late goal, it's on it's way

[Zizu]

Spoke to soon .. the little blighter just scored a trademark tap in

:)


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[bots]

this will give chelsea a bit of confidence

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jackson finally

[Swan]

We needed that, not bad at all, and great from Sterling.

[Zizu]

We needed that, not bad at all, and great from Sterling.


From what I saw Sterling played very well apart from a couple of blips


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[bots]

An unnamed team in Albania is the only club interested in signing Mason Greenwood after it was announced the England forward, 21, would not play for Manchester United again

[Crimson Dynamo]

From what I saw Sterling played very well apart from a couple of blips


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he was MOTM

[Zizu]

he was MOTM


Fair enough.. I lost interest after a while and just had it on in the background


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[bots]

i would be very happy for sterling if he puts in a good show this season. I think he has had a tough time of it because he has been forced to play in a particular way that just doesn't suit him, until now

[Crimson Dynamo]

Spurs post an unchanged team

[Zizu]

I’m thinking a decent win for Spurs and an exciting , entertaining display


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[bots]

Good start

[Zizu]

Yves Bissouma reminds me slightly of Jay-Jay Okocha with his skilful play

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJG29Kn6/


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[Zizu]

I reckon the goals will soon start to flow for Richarlison


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[Zizu]

Mmmmmhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230826/b351ca92c37836fc9244bf6a36f956e1.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230826/6f51bf273f7c11c4f788a34289a24c0d.jpg


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[bots]

what a difference in spurs compared to Conte time

[bots]

ffs forest 2 united 0

[Zizu]

ManU 0:2 down to Forest after 4 minutes !


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[Zizu]

Crazy to see two young English stars being slaughtered for woeful play

Saka and Rashford to blame for two early goals apparently


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[Crimson Dynamo]

ManU 0:2 down to Forest after 4 minutes !


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https://24.media.tumblr.com/8fcb946ff21da421ae2f1a76490097eb/tumblr_ms157c6ugT1qc7cmzo3_400.gif

[bots]

i'm watching it, it's comical, united are absolute ****e

[The Slim Reaper]

Norwich scarves at the ready.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Norwich scarves at the ready.

:joker: