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Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 07:12 PM
Donald Trump has announced that Ohio senator JD Vance will be his running
mate in November’s presidential election.
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arista
15-07-2024, 07:14 PM
Good Pick
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 07:16 PM
Born in Middletown, Ohio, Vance served in the Marine Corps before studying
political science and philosophy at The Ohio State University and earning a Juris
Doctor from Yale Law School. His memoir, which describes his upbringing in
Middletown and his family's Appalachian values, became a New York Times
bestseller and attracted significant press attention during the 2016 United
States presidential election. Vance launched his first political campaign for
Ohio's Senate seat in 2021 and won the Republican nomination after being
endorsed by former President Donald Trump. He defeated Democratic nominee
Tim Ryan in the general election. Trump announced Vance as his nominee for
vice president during the 2024 Republican National Convention.
Liam-
15-07-2024, 07:18 PM
He himself was calling Trump a Nazi not all that long ago :joker:
I read his book a few years ago. Fascinating insight and very good for understanding blue collar republicanism in the US. At that time he wasn't too keen on Trump
Liam-
15-07-2024, 07:47 PM
Pro national abortion ban, pro Russia, anti IVF, anti gay marriage, believes abused women should stay in marriages for the sake of marriage, he’s a real charmer
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 08:09 PM
Great choice Donald, onwards to victory
:dance:
The Don just loves his VPs with the surname ending in nce
Glenn.
15-07-2024, 08:25 PM
Pro national abortion ban, pro Russia, anti IVF, anti gay marriage, believes abused women should stay in marriages for the sake of marriage, he’s a real charmer
He sounds an absolute delight of a human.
I’m amazed so many TiBBers think this is a great idea considering how they champion women’s rights!
Jordan.
15-07-2024, 08:28 PM
The Don just loves his VPs with the surname ending in nce
One of his mates was a nce too
Liam-
15-07-2024, 08:35 PM
He also quite enjoys letting people try to publicly lynch his VP’s, so good luck Vance
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 08:36 PM
JD Vance on Israel:
"Hamas started the war and now, they hide behind Palestinian civilians. So if you want to learn the lessons of the last 40 years, the most important thing is we have to defeat Hamas as a viable military organization. You’re never going to defeat the ideology of Hamas, but you can root out those commanders, those final military-trained battalions, and I think you should empower the Israelis to do it.”
it will be interesting if Vance will comply with trumps request to dial down the temperature
Black Dagger
15-07-2024, 08:39 PM
Pro national abortion ban, pro Russia, anti IVF, anti gay marriage, believes abused women should stay in marriages for the sake of marriage, he’s a real charmer
Oh doesn’t he sound lovely?!
arista
15-07-2024, 08:39 PM
[Trump classified documents case
dismissed by Florida judge]
[A Florida judge has dismissed the
US justice department's classified documents
case against Donald Trump in a huge
victory for the former president just days
after a gunman attempted to assassinate him.
Judge Aileen Cannon granted Mr Trump's
motion to dismiss the federal case on the basis
that the justice department's appointment
of special prosecutor Jack Smith violates
the Appointments Clause of
the US Constitution.
He pleaded not guilty to several charges
in the case over his handling of classified
documents, including wilful retention
of national defence information.]
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz5rpdrxevro
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 08:43 PM
The appointment seems to be upsetting the right people.
Go Donald/Vance
:joker:
Black Dagger
15-07-2024, 08:47 PM
The appointment seems to be upsetting the right people.
Go Donald/Vance
:joker:
Least you can proudly confirm yourself as a bigot now then. It’s taken you long enough
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 08:51 PM
Vance’s response to the assassination attempt at a Trump rally on Saturday was also notable. “The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs,” Vance wrote on X. “That rhetoric led directly to President Trump’s attempted assassination.”
Liam-
15-07-2024, 08:57 PM
People that care about other people and their rights don’t like people who actively want to take away peoples rights? Shocker
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 09:05 PM
Wil be reading Hillbilly Elegy later
:clap1:
arista
15-07-2024, 10:57 PM
Mondays Paper
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arista
15-07-2024, 11:00 PM
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arista
15-07-2024, 11:00 PM
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arista
15-07-2024, 11:03 PM
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arista
15-07-2024, 11:11 PM
Typical of Biden
He was at the airport with Secret Service near him
press lady shouted "JD Vance" at the 81-year-old.
Biden said "he is Clone of Trumps thoughts"
arista
15-07-2024, 11:22 PM
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https://x.com/boricuabc2/status/1812554165748683187
[ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos
has been slammed for claiming that
Donald Trump helped spread the
'violent rhetoric' that led to an
assassination attempt just hours
after the ex-president was shot.
During Sunday's episode of ABC's
This Week Stephanopoulos
and chief global affairs anchor Martha Raddatz
discussed the current political environment.
The former president, 78,
survived the attempt on his life when
the bullet missed him by less than an inch
on Saturday afternoon, at a rally
in Butler, Pennsylvania.
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[ABC News issued their own statement on
what Stephanopoulos had been caught saying.
'George expressed his own point of view and
not the position of ABC News.']
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13637097/george-stephanopoulos-abc-news-trump-assassination-attempt.html
arista
15-07-2024, 11:50 PM
https://x.com/SharkpuncherTR/status/1812675089181167767
2nd Video
WWF as it was called, many years ago
Vince and Trump
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arista
16-07-2024, 01:02 AM
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One of Trump’s many gorgeous advisors / employees - excuse the poor photo
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Donald Trump has announced that Ohio senator JD Vance will be his running
mate in November’s presidential election.
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He looks like he could be cast as a male lead in a Lifetime flick.
His ear must look gnarly:
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Was surprised to see Tucker Carlson sitting next to him. I must be out of the loop... :laugh:
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Weird, Ivanka was missing? Didn't see her there. That's surprising.
Cherie
16-07-2024, 05:59 AM
He sounds an absolute delight of a human.
I’m amazed so many TiBBers think this is a great idea considering how they champion women’s rights!
People that care about other people and their rights don’t like people who actively want to take away peoples rights? Shocker
The sudden interest in womens rights boys ...only when it suits :idc:
Cherie
16-07-2024, 06:00 AM
This guy sounds like he is straight out of ...A Handmaids Tale
This guy sounds like he is straight out of ...A Handmaids Tale
he is the worst of all worlds, he doesn't believe a word of the maga crap, but he likes power, so he goes along with it
and it's about time someone says this. Everyone that is supporting Trump and amplifies his politics both here and in America, is championing women losing their rights and the end of democracy
he is the worst of all worlds, he doesn't believe a word of the maga crap, but he likes power, so he goes along with it
and it's about time someone says this. Everyone that is supporting Trump and amplifies his politics both here and in America, is championing women losing their rights and the end of democracy
…I mean, there is no other way to put it…he stands against everything that females have fought for and stands against equality and he’s been praised as a good choice …the world really is a crazy place and not in any good way…patriarchy rulez, ok…
Nicky91
16-07-2024, 06:55 AM
very good choice :clap1: :clap1:
Trump/Vance, yup yup landslide victory here they come :cheer:
…I mean, there is no other way to put it…he stands against everything that females have fought for and stands against equality and he’s been praised as a good choice …the world really is a crazy place and not in any good way…patriarchy rulez, ok…
what i find particularly insane is that people with daughters are supporting Trump and Farage, knowing what effect this will have on their daughters as it spreads through the world
what i find particularly insane is that people with daughters are supporting Trump and Farage, knowing what effect this will have on their daughters as it spreads through the world
…I think also it’s good and apt to consider the ages of US Presidents as well atm…as is being done with Biden…?…I mean, I know anything can happen when a VP then become the leader, that’s the whole point of them…but with older Presidents, it all starts to become something that is considered more…all of the inequalities that we’ve talked about over the years in certain USA states…all of the things that have outraged or saddened us in ‘backward steps’ and stripping women of any voice completely, especially etc…?….Vance stands for them all, all of those beliefs that are incredibly sad to think that people still believe the world should be a patriarch society…
Cherie
16-07-2024, 07:08 AM
…I think also it’s good and apt to consider the ages of US Presidents as well atm…as is being done with Biden…?…I mean, I know anything can happen when a VP then become the leader, that’s the whole point of them…but with older Presidents, it all starts to become something that is considered more…all of the inequalities that we’ve talked about over the years in certain USA states…all of the things that have outraged or saddened us in ‘backward steps’ and stripping women of any voice completely, especially etc…?….Vance stands for them all, all of those beliefs that are incredibly sad to think that people still believe the world should be a patriarch society…
and whats worse is women will vote for this.....mind blowing
How has Trump managed to get the majority of the Latino and Hispanic voters ??
Didn’t he spend his last term building a wall to keep them out ?
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Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 07:12 AM
He himself was calling Trump a Nazi not all that long ago :joker:
So this matchup should be interesting.:laugh:
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 07:18 AM
Pro national abortion ban, pro Russia, anti IVF, anti gay marriage, believes abused women should stay in marriages for the sake of marriage, he’s a real charmer
I seriously hope that he was joking when he made this comment.
Don't get me wrong the other comments are also really bad, but I especially can't stand it when people trivialize Domestic Abuse, especially when Biologically speaking in the example that this guy is referring to, men are more likely to be more of an endangerment to an abused woman than the other way around.
I know that some people might see that as a sexist comment, but to me that's a line that people really shouldn't trivialize, especially a Politician.
and whats worse is women will vote for this.....mind blowing
…I must try to find it but I read a very interesting piece quite a few years ago…(…actually, I think that it was after Trump became President ….)…how the voting married women of America will always vote to align with their husband’s views and how that would be expected of them…and I guess that in itself is a very telling thing of what a male society it is…
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 07:23 AM
The appointment seems to be upsetting the right people.
Go Donald/Vance
:joker:
If Vance has said all of those things then that's disgusting of Trump to hire him.
One or two of these comments you could put down to him making mistakes (which we all have done tbf,) but Liam listed off about four to five horrible takes imo.
arista
16-07-2024, 07:24 AM
Weird, Ivanka was missing? Didn't see her there. That's surprising.
I do not think so.
Not her style
At least she gave a nice statement
after that horrid Terrorist who nearly killed Trump.
arista
16-07-2024, 07:29 AM
How has Trump managed to get the majority of the Latino and Hispanic voters ??
Didn’t he spend his last term building a wall to keep them out ?
I was amazed last night
Live on BBCnewsHD had a live feed of a nice
Young Rapper Lady spoke about how Trump
would improve the USA.
So Young and so Bright
Trump was smiling
Others the BBC live feed
but the spoke over them
arista
16-07-2024, 07:34 AM
If Vance has said all of those things then that's disgusting of Trump to hire him.
One or two of these comments you could put down to him making mistakes (which we all have done tbf,) but Liam listed off about four to five horrible takes imo.
Slick Liam is good at that
arista
16-07-2024, 07:35 AM
and whats worse is women will vote for this.....mind blowing
Yes
but they do not want Older Biden.
arista
16-07-2024, 07:38 AM
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Yes Alf
Clever Remix
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 07:40 AM
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Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 07:44 AM
what i find particularly insane is that people with daughters are supporting Trump and Farage, knowing what effect this will have on their daughters as it spreads through the world
I think what needs to be asked, but I feel like both sides of the aisle will get defensive when being asked this very important question.
Why are such unlikable people like Donald Trump and Nigel Farage gaining so much support?
And away from Politicians, why are people like Andrew Tate gaining so many followers? Again I think even his support base deep down knows that he is a prick, but something about their current situation in their lives, draws them to him.
We've got a broken society in the Western side of the world, but people are either too scared of pointing it out, or too blinded by the Sports team logic that they're not even realistically looking at any options on how to try and nip these guys support in the bud.
I obviously don't have the answer to any of these problems, but surely the brighter people of this world should have some good ideas about how to fix these issues.
People are clearly unhappy with current life if they're worshipping Trump or Tate imo, and I don't mean that in a hostile way (in fact I have some sympathy) because current life in certain areas in western countries is terrible and drone like.
But a happy person in society would not be voting for Donald Trump.
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 07:47 AM
Slick Liam is good at that
But what I find interesting is that nobody has said that Liam is lying.
Nicky91
16-07-2024, 07:47 AM
Vance's childhood was marked by poverty and abuse, and his mother struggled with drug addiction
By February 2018, Vance began changing his opinion, saying Trump "is one of the few political leaders in America that recognizes the frustration that exists in large parts of Ohio, Pennsylvania, eastern Kentucky and so forth".[152]
Vance supported Trump in 2020.[153] In July 2021, he apologized for calling Trump "reprehensible" and deleted posts from 2016 from his Twitter account that were critical of him.[154][155] Vance said that he now thought Trump was a good president and expressed regret about his criticism during the 2016 election.[147] Vance visited Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trump and Peter Thiel ahead of an official announcement regarding his U.S. Senate campaign.[57]
In October 2021, Vance reiterated Trump's false claims of election fraud, saying that Trump lost the 2020 presidential election because of widespread voter fraud.[156] On April 15, 2022, Trump endorsed Vance for U.S. Senate.[148]
After historian Robert Kagan wrote a November 2023 Washington Post opinion piece titled "A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending", Vance wrote Attorney General Merrick Garland a letter suggesting Kagan be prosecuted for promoting "open rebellion" by Democrat-controlled states. Kagan said that his piece did not advocate rebellion and remarked, "It is revealing that their first instinct when attacked by a journalist is to suggest that they be locked up
a much better running mate than Pence the Rat
also how relatable he is, coming from nothing to this, a great example of Self Made :clap1: :clap1: same like Rihanna almost in terms of childhood
Cherie
16-07-2024, 07:50 AM
If Donald Trump was looking for an attack dog to join his presidential ticket, then Senator JD Vance of Ohio has already proved himself more than ready and willing to fit the bill.
As recently as Saturday, in the immediate aftermath of Trump’s attempted assassination in Pennsylvania, Vance posted on social media so inflammatory that even some seasoned Republican observers believed that he was too toxic to be selected as Trump’s sidekick.
Denying the attack on Trump was an “isolated incident”, Vance claimed that “the central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs. That rhetoric led directly to President Trump’s attempted assassination”.
On Monday afternoon, just as the Republican Convention was getting underway here, Trump unveiled Vance as his running mate, and effectively anointed him as his successor to lead the “Make America Great Again” movement at the end of his second term in the White House. “J.D. will continue to fight for our Constitution, stand with our Troops, and will do everything he can to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN”, Trump claimed in a social media posting.
Vance’s selection is the culmination of an extraordinary journey for both men that led them to appear together on Monday night for the official launch of the 2024 Republican ticket.
Trump announces J.D. Vance as Vice President pick
Eight years ago, when Trump first sought the Presidency, Vance was one of his most outspoken critics. He called Trump “America’s Hitler” in a private message to a friend. In a New York Times editorial, he insisted that Trump was “unfit for the nation’s highest office”. In an article for The Atlantic, he called Trump’s policy balms the “Opioid of the Masses”.
But following Trump’s 2016 election victory, Vance began the process of recreating himself in the image of America’s new president. In 2022 he won election to the Senate in his home state of Ohio, where his hardscrabble early life – chronicled in his best-selling memoir “Hillbilly Elegy” – struck a chord with working class voters.
His career first in the Marines, then studying at Yale Law School before working in Silicon Valley as a venture capitalist brought him to Trump’s attention via Paypal’s co-founder Peter Thiel, a longtime supporter of the former President.
By the time this year’s Presidential cycle was underway, Vance had adhered himself firmly to Trump, embracing his stances on tariffs (he supports them), Ukraine (he opposes American assistance for Kyiv) and immigration (he’s against it, because he think it floods America with cheap labour that corporate behemoths must learn to live without).
Vance has traditionally been a fierce opponent of abortion rights, describing himself as “solidly pro-life”. He opposes surgical abortions, even in the case of rape or incest except when a mother’s life is in danger.
But, perhaps sensing he may soon have to debate Vice President Kamala Harris on the issue, last week he told NBC that he favors the legality of mifepristone, the abortion pill that is now responsible for more than 50% of pregnancy terminations in the United States.
Vance has also been burnishing his foreign policy credentials in recent months.
He attended the Munich Security Conference in February and delivered what he called a “wake-up call to say that Europe has to take a bigger role in its own security”. America under Trump, he warned, would be pivoting away from the continent and focusing instead on Chinese expansionism in the Asia-Pacific region.
Among those officials he met in Europe, was then-Shadow Foreign Secretary David Lammy. The two men reportedly had a productive conversation that led to Lammy later visiting Washington to engage in further outreach with prominent figures in Trumpworld ahead of the UK’s election and his appointment as Foreign Secretary.
On the convention floor, delegates embraced Trump’s selection of Vance enthusiastically. “He’s one of our best Senators”, former Republican Congressman Madison Cawthorne told i in an interview on the convention floor. “I’m so excited to have such a strong conservative as VP”, he enthused.
Congressman Anthony D’Esposito of New York told i that at the age of 39 – 20 years younger than Kamala Harris – Vance is helping the Republican Party prepare for a transition to a younger generation of leaders. “I think it shows that our party is not only unified, but that the Republican Party is also embracing youth”, he said shortly after Vance was officially nominated.
But some right-leaning voices harbour doubts about Vance, and his new-found willingness to be Trump’s Mini-Me. “He was a hard-core Never Trumper not many years ago, and he reversed himself completely not that long ago”, observed Brit Hume, Fox News analyst and veteran White House Correspondent.
“Did he get it because he was really the best qualified to be President, or did he get it because he sucked up effectively to be the nominee. People will have questions about that”, he told possibly startled Fox News viewers.
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I think what needs to be asked, but I feel like both sides of the aisle will get defensive when being asked this very important question.
Why are such unlikable people like Donald Trump and Nigel Farage gaining so much support?
And away from Politicians, why are people like Andrew Tate gaining so many followers? Again I think even his support base deep down knows that he is a prick, but something about their current situation in their lives, draws them to him.
We've got a broken society in the Western side of the world, but people are either too scared of pointing it out, or too blinded by the Sports team logic that they're not even realistically looking at any options on how to try and nip these guys support in the bud.
I obviously don't have the answer to any of these problems, but surely the brighter people of this world should have some good ideas about how to fix these issues.
People are clearly unhappy with current life if they're worshipping Trump or Tate imo, and I don't mean that in a hostile way (in fact I have some sympathy) because current life in certain areas in western countries is terrible and drone like.
But a happy person in society would not be voting for Donald Trump.
it has all happened because the general public across the western world are unhappy that their living standards have really not improved for the last 20 years. When you get that level of discontent and near instant messaging anywhere in the world you give a voice to extremists
Liam-
16-07-2024, 08:00 AM
Vance really doesn’t help Trump appeal to more than has rabid base, if he had gone for someone that isn’t quite so ‘maga’ he could have made a bit of progress with the independents who don’t like how extreme he is, Vance is not going to do that for him
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 08:12 AM
it has all happened because the general public across the western world are unhappy that their living standards have really not improved for the last 20 years. When you get that level of discontent and near instant messaging anywhere in the world you give a voice to extremists
I think it's definitely playing a part.
But I also think one of the other reasons is that a lot of people are getting fed up of the Media (in all of it's various forms) dictating to people on what is right and wrong, and if you happen to disagree with them on a topic, you're public enemy number 1, as the Media will make sure to get the public on your case.
It's hard to put it into words (because I'm never the best at explaining these things) but society over the last decade in particular has just not so slowly gotten more and more stiff in the West, I feel like people are scared of saying anything with actual character and personality if their face is out there (even if it's just with friends,) there's an uneasiness and false morality/beliefs that some (not all) pretend to have just to fit in, and not potentially get their face splashed all over Social Media to be harassed and threatened over something that they've said.
It's why I think that such a troll like Trump has garnered such a loyal fanbase, because whilst what he says is disgusting 95% of the time, his supporters love how spontaneous he can be with his comments (and tbh, I can admire that aspect of him too) it's just such a shame that I don't agree with him on almost anything.:laugh:
But his fanbase hears what he says at his rallies, and they see him as an "honest" man which they see as refreshing, plus they'll agree with some of his points obviously.
There's probably other reasons too for his sudden support, but I'm just not thinking of them right now.
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 08:16 AM
Vance really doesn’t help Trump appeal to more than has rabid base, if he had gone for someone that isn’t quite so ‘maga’ he could have made a bit of progress with the independents who don’t like how extreme he is, Vance is not going to do that for him
I hope that you're right.
Someone like Vance should not be the VP.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 08:26 AM
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Why are such unlikable people like Donald Trump and Nigel Farage gaining so much support?
:joker:
Mock its because they are likeable they are popular
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 08:29 AM
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Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 08:29 AM
Why are such unlikable people like Donald Trump and Nigel Farage gaining so much support?
:joker:
Mock its because they are likeable they are popular
If people are really thinking that, then that's another interesting thing to try and figure out why a horrible person like Trump, would be seen as a likable Human Being.
Because I honestly think that if we went back a few decades, that Trump would not be quite so popular with the way that he speaks about people.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 08:30 AM
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Cherie
16-07-2024, 09:03 AM
Why are such unlikable people like Donald Trump and Nigel Farage gaining so much support?
:joker:
Mock its because they are likeable they are popular
I have no idea what Farages view is on women and their rights as its not something I have ever heard him speak about, but dont you have any qualms about Trump and Vance?
Liam-
16-07-2024, 09:06 AM
Trump and Farage are not likeable, that’s a complete myth, their only appeal is that they prey on peoples weakness and hate minorities to speak to the bigots that most politicians rightfully ignore
Vance really doesn’t help Trump appeal to more than has rabid base, if he had gone for someone that isn’t quite so ‘maga’ he could have made a bit of progress with the independents who don’t like how extreme he is, Vance is not going to do that for him
The reason trump went for Vance is because he thinks he has the election won already, without needing to appeal to non maga types. The way things are shaping up, he is probably right. The dems are on a downward spiral
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 09:21 AM
I have no idea what Farages view is on women and their rights as its not something I have ever heard him speak about, but dont you have any qualms about Trump and Vance?
No as I am not an American voter but half of the people who will vote for them will be women. In a binary type choice I doubt any USA voter is for every stance its more the amalgamation of the lot.
Cherie
16-07-2024, 09:41 AM
No as I am not an American voter but half of the people who will vote for them will be women. In a binary type choice I doubt any USA voter is for every stance its more the amalgamation of the lot.
That is true, which is why centrist politics is usually more palatable, Women dont have a great choice in American politics the other side have opened up safe spaces and womens sport to abuse...so rock and a hard place for alot of women in the main
At least here you have more choices to vote for even it that still makes it difficult :laugh:
Are there any other smaller parties in the US?
Are there any other smaller parties in the US?
nope, they have a 2 party system and then independents that can stand, but they have no party
Vance is a practicing Catholic hence his stance on abortion. I think it's a bit more nuanced than is being presented though; you can oppose abortion in principle and still not support a blanket ban across the country. I believe he thinks those decisions should be made at state level
Cherie
16-07-2024, 09:46 AM
nope, they have a 2 party system and then independents that can stand, but they have no party
Right... so basically independents have no chance?
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 09:47 AM
That is true, which is why centrist politics is usually more palatable, Women dont have a great choice in American politics the other side have opened up safe spaces and womens sport to abuse...so rock and a hard place for alot of women in the main
At least here you have more choices to vote for even it that still makes it difficult :laugh:
Are there any other smaller parties in the US?
Yep scary time to be a woman in America.
Liam-
16-07-2024, 09:47 AM
No he has said he supports a national ban on abortion, he’s an adult covert Christian and wants to push his ‘beliefs’ on the country
Right... so basically independents have no chance?
Robert F Kennedy Jr is running as an independent and polling at about 8% which is higher than most independents would get
No he has said he supports a national ban on abortion, he’s an adult covert Christian and wants to push his ‘beliefs’ on the country
Mr. Vance opposes abortion rights, even in the case of incest or rape, but says there should be exceptions for cases when the mother’s life is in danger. He praised the U.S. Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade. As he ran for Senate in 2022, a headline on the issues section of his campaign website read simply: “Ban Abortion.”
That said, Mr. Vance, like Mr. Trump, opposes a national abortion ban, saying the issue should now be left to the states. “Ohio is going to want to have a different abortion policy from California, from New York, and I think that’s reasonable,” he said in an interview with USA Today Network in October 2022.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/us/politics/jd-vance-abortion-immigration-issues.html
Right... so basically independents have no chance?
unless they are billionaires like trump, they have no chance.
Trump started as an independent and was then basically adopted by the GoP because he blew their candidates away in the debate by publishing fake news about them in the media :laugh:
Liam-
16-07-2024, 10:14 AM
https://twitter.com/bidenhq/status/1812992994611540079?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Project 2025 that wants to ban abortion nationally, both Trump and Vance have worked with, Vance specifically thanking them for all the hard work they put into ‘our’ policies.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 10:43 AM
https://twitter.com/bidenhq/status/1812992994611540079?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Project 2025 that wants to ban abortion nationally, both Trump and Vance have worked with, Vance specifically thanking them for all the hard work they put into ‘our’ policies.
One wonders why he didn't show the text?
:joker:
user104658
16-07-2024, 11:25 AM
unless they are billionaires like trump, they have no chance.
Trump started as an independent and was then basically adopted by the GoP because he blew their candidates away in the debate by publishing fake news about them in the media :laugh:
This is a good point really. If an independent ever did realistically look like they were going to win, they'd likely be adopted by Red or Blue (whichever most closely aligns/is most willing to realign slightly)
Whats the thinking of Trump picking a guy who has viciously slagged him off for years ?
Surely that looks weak ??
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user104658
16-07-2024, 12:11 PM
Whats the thinking of Trump picking a guy who has viciously slagged him off for years ?
Surely that looks weak ??
Because the weirdo hootin' redneck Trumpists are not enough to get him over the line, he needs to entice some of the straighter-laced hard republicans.
Because the weirdo hootin' redneck Trumpists are not enough to get him over the line, he needs to entice some of the straighter-laced hard republicans.
By enlisting a known detractor ?
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user104658
16-07-2024, 12:18 PM
By enlisting a known detractor ?
Literally anyone straight-laced, by necessity, will have been a Trump detractor, as he is the opposite. Seems this one's sold his soul :joker:.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 12:22 PM
Whats the thinking of Trump picking a guy who has viciously slagged him off for years ?
Surely that looks weak ??
There is no point having a mind of young cant change it when you get more information
Donald is above petty vendettas and leaves that to whackjob Biden
No he has said he supports a national ban on abortion, he’s an adult covert Christian and wants to push his ‘beliefs’ on the country
There is nothing wrong in that, and he cant just click his fingers for it to happen. Many have tried in the past, and failed. He wont be any different, but If that's his belief, then he should be free to have it.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 02:21 PM
Biden "I have not engaged in such rhetoric"
Also Biden
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSnQ6A8WoAEUd7Y?format=jpg&name=900x900
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 02:28 PM
Literally anyone straight-laced, by necessity, will have been a Trump detractor, as he is the opposite. Seems this one's sold his soul :joker:.
Didn't Kamala Harris do the same when she became Bidens VP, she had previously called him racist iirc?
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 02:44 PM
Didn't Kamala Harris do the same when she became Bidens VP, she had previously called him racist iirc?
Not quite she said he had been defending racist endeavours
(I'm pretty sure she has called every main USA political figure a racist at some point tho)
S6-UC8yr0Aw
Didn't Kamala Harris do the same when she became Bidens VP, she had previously called him racist iirc?She's allowed to, it's not Trump's side.
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 02:47 PM
She's allowed to, it's not Trump's side.
Don't get me wrong here, I think both sides are awful :smug:
Don't get me wrong here, I think both sides are awful :smug:You'd be wrong. Trump has done nothing awful. If he had they wouldn't need to try and kill him.
Infact, Trump brought peace.
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 02:51 PM
You'd be wrong. Trump has done nothing awful. If he had they wouldn't need to try and kill him.
Infact, Trump brought peace.
Trump caused a ****ing riot when he lost the election last time.
Trump caused a ****ing riot when he lost the election last time.No he didn't.
user104658
16-07-2024, 02:53 PM
Infact, Trump brought peace.
Where?
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 02:56 PM
No he didn't.
Yes, yes he did
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 03:05 PM
https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/GettyImages-2162173792.jpg?w=681&h=383&crop=1
The DEI hire Secret Service Director should RESIGN after Saturday’s
catastrophic failure.
Secretary Mayorkas is responsible as well. I already tried to fire him after the
House passed my Articles of Impeachment.
We expect the Secret Service Director to appear in front of the Oversight
Committee on Monday.
https://x.com/mtgreenee/status/1813227322650005514
Yes, yes he didBy your logic. George Floyd was at fault for dying. He caused all that rioting because he died when he should have stayed alive so it could have stayed peaceful.
What a bad man Floyd is for dying.
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 03:36 PM
By your logic. George Floyd was at fault for dying. He caused all that rioting because he died when he should have stayed alive so it could have stayed peaceful.
What a bad man Floyd is for dying.
Nope that's not my logic at all. I have no idea how you think the two are similar in anyway, George Floyd died, he didn't incite anything because he was dead. Trump lied to his followers telling them the election was rigged and he encouraged them to all go and protest at the capitol, he even said he'd join them (which he didn't of course)
Yes, yes he did
If you are using that one then you have to accept Biden's bullseye comment did the same here.
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 03:46 PM
If you are using that one then you have to accept Biden's bullseye comment did the same here.
Not sure why you think I'm a Biden fan and would defend his comments? Totally irresponsible comment to make from sleepy Joe :shrug:
Cherie
16-07-2024, 03:49 PM
Not sure why you think I'm a Biden fan and would defend his comments? Totally irresponsible comment to make from sleepy Joe :shrug:
you have to pick a side :fist: how dare you think both sides are just the pits
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 03:51 PM
you have to pick a side :fist: how dare you think both sides are just the pits
I know right? :laugh: I don't envy the average American voter
Not sure why you think I'm a Biden fan and would defend his comments? Totally irresponsible comment to make from sleepy Joe :shrug:
I can see you're not a fan of either, but it appears you find one mans words more inciteful than the others, even though both men have absolutely no power over how those words are taken. It's almost as though you dont want to believe Biden's words can be construed as inciteful as you believe trumps words were.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 03:53 PM
cVvl2DGrMoc
DONALDS'S VERY EMOTIONAL ENTRANCE LAST NIGHT FROM 0.41
you have to pick a side :fist: how dare you think both sides are just the pits
It's not the sides these days..its the 2 men. So even though you dint appreciate Biden, you still favour his parties stance on world issues so will always find it hard to come down on Biden's actions as you would trumps.. its it works.
Liam-
16-07-2024, 03:54 PM
A bad choice of words in the context of a discussion of how to get the attention back onto Trump reprehensible character and terrible record, is not the same as Trump calling for bloodshed if he loses the election again
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 03:56 PM
I can see you're not a fan of either, but it appears you find one mans words more inciteful than the others, even though both men have absolutely no power over how those words are taken. It's almost as though you dont want to believe Biden's words can be construed as inciteful as you believe trumps words were.
Are you telling me what I think now?
Whats the thinking of Trump picking a guy who has viciously slagged him off for years ?
Surely that looks weak ??
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It is better he picked someone whose stripes and colors he has seen and is willing to argue. I don't like the people he surrounds himself with normally (pillow guy), but if this guy is legit and is strongwilled, but logical as they say, then down the line it is healthy for his Presidency to have that relationship between the two. Trump is not young. There is a good chance he dies in office and a VP will have to replace. If both can set an example for the party that disagreement is healthy, then maybe we get less sh*t tier candidates in the future. We need more young people to replace these establishment figures...
Are you telling me what I think now?
I'm telling you how it appears to me from reading your posts. Is that illegal these days?
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 03:58 PM
It's not the sides these days..its the 2 men. So even though you dint appreciate Biden, you still favour his parties stance on world issues so will always find it hard to come down on Biden's actions as you would trumps.. its it works.
Nope, there's plenty I dislike about both sides as well.
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 03:59 PM
I'm telling you how it appears to me from reading your posts. Is that illegal these days?
Well, it appears wrong, I have issues with both men and both sides
Well, it appears wrong, I have issues with both men and both sides
I'm surprised you spend so much energy thinking about it with all the shite going in in your own nation.
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 04:02 PM
I'm surprised you spend so much energy thinking about it with all the shite going in in your own nation.
You seem extremely hostile atm pram. I think I'll leave you to it. :douf:
Just asking questions, no need to be defensive and silly name calling isnt needed either.
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 04:06 PM
Just asking questions, no need to be defensive as soon as I mention irelands mess.
:joker: Ok
arista
16-07-2024, 04:07 PM
Last Night
That Young Rapper Lady was Amber Rose
it was 9:19PM USA Time
at the Republican National Convention.
She Supports Trump.
Live on CNN HD Live USA on UK TV.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSlNngeWUAAWlTw?format=jpg&name=small
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 04:15 PM
Just asking questions, no need to be defensive and silly name calling isnt needed either.
Name calling? what are you on about?
Nope that's not my logic at all. I have no idea how you think the two are similar in anyway, George Floyd died, he didn't incite anything because he was dead. Trump lied to his followers telling them the election was rigged and he encouraged them to all go and protest at the capitol, he even said he'd join them (which he didn't of course)The election was rigged. It was clear to see from anyone that was taking notice.
The media lied about the Hunter Biden laptop. A load of FBI agents lied about Hunter Bidens laptop saying it was Russian disinformation, when they actually had the laptop in their possession.
Then there was the fake pandemic, that was gonna be around for years, but seem to disappear soon after the election result. But it was useful for the mail in ballots before the election.
And those are just a couple of many things that played a part in rigging the election. But two major, treasonous things.
So you say Trump told them to protest? What's wrong with that? How is that inciting a riot?
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 04:23 PM
The election was rigged. It was clear to see from anyone that was taking notice.
The media lied about the Hunter Biden laptop. A load of FBI agents lied about Hunter Bidens laptop saying it was Russian disinformation, when they actually had the laptop in their possession.
Then there was the fake pandemic, that was gonna be around for years, but seem to disappear soon after the election result. But it was useful for the mail in ballots before the election.
And those are just a couple of many things that played a part in rigging the election. But two major, treasonous things.
So you say Trump told them to protest? What's wrong with that? How is that inciting a riot?
It wasn't
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 04:25 PM
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Unbelievable. Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle now admits that the
USSS knew the building 125 yards from President Trump was a huge
vulnerability, but didn’t station an agent there because it had a “sloped roof.”
“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you
know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't
want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, you know, the decision
was made to secure the building, from inside.”
This is “safetyism” run amok at its absolute worst.
Cheatle shouldn’t be trusted with protecting the food court of a shopping
mall, let alone the US president. She should resign or be fired IMMEDIATELY.
https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1813217646436909550
It wasn'tYeah. Creepy, touchy, SENILE Joe Biden got the most vote in history. Even though Trump got ten million votes than the previous election.
Trump was leading on election night. Everyone went to bed thinking a Trump win. Then the halted the count and 3 or 4 days later declared Biden the winner, with the most votes in history.
You do know that a thing called corruption exists, right? Or do you just believe what you're told, when things don't seem to look like what you're being told.
user104658
16-07-2024, 04:37 PM
Honestly how long are we going to have to put up with this cyclical QAnon bull**** on here? It's been the same claptrap for years. Literally, YEARS.
I'd like to think it might stop when Trump dies (of old age/natural causes, of course, he is elderly) but I have a horrible feeling he'll simply be replaced with some new conspiracy theorists messiah.
Liam-
16-07-2024, 04:52 PM
Honestly how long are we going to have to put up with this cyclical QAnon bull**** on here? It's been the same claptrap for years. Literally, YEARS.
I'd like to think it might stop when Trump dies (of old age/natural causes, of course, he is elderly) but I have a horrible feeling he'll simply be replaced with some new conspiracy theorists messiah.
He’ll be replaced by one of his moronic, druggie sons
Remember Trump being banned from social media in the run up to the election? Another bit of election interference.
But obviously that didn't happen. He didn't get banned, that was just a Qanon conspiracy theory.
And because I said it was a Qanon conspiracy theory. That means I win the argument.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 05:25 PM
Remember Trump being banned from social media in the run up to the election? Another bit of election interference.
But obviously that didn't happen. He didn't get banned, that was just a Qanon conspiracy theory.
And because I said it was a Qanon conspiracy theory. That means I win the argument.
the BlueAnon attempts to stop him will one day in the future be looked at as incredible - when all else failed they ramped up the rhetoric (deliberately) that culminated in their last throw of the dice....
that was Saturday
the BlueAnon attempts to stop him will one day in the future be looked at as incredible - when all else failed they ramped up the rhetoric (deliberately) that culminated in their last throw of the dice....
that was SaturdayThere's gonna be one more throw of the dice.
They're gonna try to start a civil war. They want to get the MAGA supporters out on the streets rioting. They won't be able to do that, because the MAGA know it's coming, just like they knew the assassination attempt was coming. But they will dress up their agent provocateurs up as MAGA and use that as their last chance saloon propaganda to stop Trump.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 05:43 PM
There's gonna be one more throw of the dice.
They're gonna try to start a civil war. They want to get the MAGA supporters out on the streets rioting. They won't be able to do that, because the MAGA know it's coming, just like they knew the assassination attempt was coming. But they will dress up their agent provocateurs up as MAGA and use that as their last chance saloon propaganda to stop Trump.
If Joe Biden had been attempted assassination the Democrats would not be
calling for “unity…”
They would be rioting in the streets of the USA, attacking the police ,
destroying small businesses, and MURDERING innocent people just like we
have seen them do time and time again
this is not even up for debate because everyone knows that is exactly what
the far left would have done
chilling
Name calling? what are you on about?
My name is parm, parmy, or parmnion..not Pram, as though I belong in one for my response.
user104658
16-07-2024, 05:57 PM
the BlueAnon attempts to stop him will one day in the future be looked at as incredible - when all else failed they ramped up the rhetoric (deliberately) that culminated in their last throw of the dice....
that was Saturday
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/df/e9/60/dfe96084459d7fd73560adcd8cca226c.jpg
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 06:02 PM
CaitlinSinclairTV
@CSinclairtv
This is my Uber driver here in Milwaukee
He voted Democrat his whole life. No more.
"They messed with the wrong dude. Donald Trump now has my vote. "
The shift is happening.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSntxRFWcAAH5Qq?format=jpg&name=small
Just cant stop with the personal comments SB
you had several removed yesterday..
Just stick to the thread topic and do the forum a favourSB would have called Tucker a nutter for actually believing this just a month or two ago.
SB just doesn't understand what's going on, he thinks he's intelligent, but he can't see what's in front of his eyes in plain sight.
1812273702563692815
Liam-
16-07-2024, 07:31 PM
https://twitter.com/calltoactivism/status/1813244434735116451?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Even his VP knows that Trump practices in violent, extreme rhetoric to stoke violence from his cult
https://twitter.com/calltoactivism/status/1813244434735116451?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Even his VP knows that Trump practices in violent, extreme rhetoric to stoke violence from his cultYet no violence from his cult. Only violence from his opponents so far.
His opponents must have much worse rhetoric.
GoldHeart
16-07-2024, 07:38 PM
https://twitter.com/calltoactivism/status/1813244434735116451?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Even his VP knows that Trump practices in violent, extreme rhetoric to stoke violence from his cult
Yet no violence from his cult. Only violence from his opponents so far.
Why not admit that both sides are crazy
Why not admit that both sides are crazyThat would mean that I'd have admit that you're crazy. Because you either have, are or will take a side. But I'm not sure you are crazy. You seem fairly sane to me
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 08:02 PM
JDot will be a great VP
The reaction from the far left tells you Trump made the right pick
They are terrified
:joker:
GoldHeart
16-07-2024, 08:04 PM
That would mean that I'd have admit that you're crazy. Because you either have, are or will take a side. But I'm not sure you are crazy. You seem fairly sane to me
That's where you're wrong ,I'm neither right wing nor left wing :hee: .
That's where you're wrong ,I'm neither right wing nor left wing :hee: .But in the past and right now, and likely in the future. You have, are or will have an opinion leaning one way.
You're a soldier in the information wars, just like the rest of us.
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 08:11 PM
My name is parm, parmy, or parmnion..not Pram, as though I belong in one for my response.Well, if I had a million dollars for every time you accidentally mistyped my name.....
Well, if I had a million dollars for every time you accidentally mistyped my name.....Well said Neem
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 08:18 PM
Well said Neem:hee:
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 09:13 PM
:joker:
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 09:41 PM
Because the weirdo hootin' redneck Trumpists are not enough to get him over the line, he needs to entice some of the straighter-laced hard republicans.
By picking someone that thinks that it's okay for women to stay in relationships where they're being abused?
Surely even a lot of Republicans have got to be questioning this decision.
When it's pointed out to you in plain sight, do you see what they do?
1813258598434369546
user104658
16-07-2024, 09:49 PM
SB would have called Tucker a nutter for actually believing this just a month or two ago.
SB just doesn't understand what's going on, he thinks he's intelligent, but he can't see what's in front of his eyes in plain sight.
1812273702563692815
I sure wish I was a clever king like you, Alf. Which Q forums do I need to go to to copy-paste "my" opinions from? Then I can be a woke Tucker genius too :worry:
Also quite like it when my "posts get deleted" - the forum is largely unmoderated these days so it means LT got weepy enough to report them :joker:
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 10:02 PM
JDot will be a great VP
The reaction from the far left tells you Trump made the right pick
They are terrified
:joker:
Trust me, it's not just the far left that has an issue with Vance.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 10:08 PM
Trust me, it's not just the far left that has an issue with Vance.
Enlighten us Mock
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 10:12 PM
Enlighten us Mock
Well for starters I have an issue with him, and I am not far left.
Also I would imagine that a lot of women of all political spectrums are not going to be happy about his views on Domestic Abuse.
Then any right wing LGBT members of the public aren't going to love Vance's stance on gay marriage.
arista
17-07-2024, 03:53 AM
BBC News Text:
[The Financial Times focuses on how
Donald Trump's choice of running mate,
"arch-isolationist" JD Vance,
has "fuelled fear" in Europe,
especially over US aid to Ukraine.]
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/6792/live/521e36d0-43b8-11ef-b74c-bb483a802c97.png.webp
every woman that believes in democracy and the freedom to choose how to live her life should be concerned about Vance. He wants to return to the marriage is for life scenario where woman are not free to walk away from marriage. The supreme court want to return the law to its origins where it isn't a crime for a husband to hit his wife, but, LT in his wisdom, thinks this is great
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 05:12 AM
every woman that believes in democracy and the freedom to choose how to live her life should be concerned about Vance. He wants to return to the marriage is for life scenario where woman are not free to walk away from marriage. The supreme court want to return the law to its origins where it isn't a crime for a husband to hit his wife, but, LT in his wisdom, thinks this is great
I honestly don't know what Trump is playing at here.
It feels like a replay of John McCain picking Sarah Palin all over again.
Well for starters I have an issue with him, and I am not far left.
Also I would imagine that a lot of women of all political spectrums are not going to be happy about his views on Domestic Abuse.
Then any right wing LGBT members of the public aren't going to love Vance's stance on gay marriage.
Ih I think the LGBT brigade are stupid enough to accept anything, just look at queers for palastine. I mean, that's stupid, could one be anymore stupid?
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 05:53 AM
Ih I think the LGBT brigade are stupid enough to accept anything, just look at queers for palastine. I mean, that's stupid, could one be anymore stupid?
Admittedly some of the LGBT community need to have better self-preservation.:joker:
Glenn.
17-07-2024, 08:23 AM
Ih I think the LGBT brigade are stupid enough to accept anything, just look at queers for palastine. I mean, that's stupid, could one be anymore stupid?
LGBTQ community is going to accept having their rights taken away?
Well, if I had a million dollars for every time you accidentally mistyped my name.....
Im not lazy like the neemsters. At least I try, and am polite enough to attempt to get your name right.
It will forever be Neem from now on though, just dont see it as me being friendly though.
Liam-
17-07-2024, 08:26 AM
Some of the maga nuts have already turned on Vance because his wife is an Indian immigrant, it’s hateful and ignorant, but I find the irony hysterical
Some of the maga nuts have already turned on Vance because his wife is an Indian immigrant, it’s hateful and ignorant, but I find the irony hysterical
lets not mention Milania :laugh:
America is multi cultural, it has been that way for decades. There wont be a single maga follower whose family is all "pure bred" and it is certainly the case for the leaders
Liam-
17-07-2024, 08:37 AM
lets not mention Milania :laugh:
America is multi cultural, it has been that way for decades. There wont be a single maga follower whose family is all "pure bred" and it is certainly the case for the leaders
Melania and her anchor baby aren’t a problem for these people, because on the outside they’re just like them
LGBTQ community is going to accept having their rights taken away?
Probably.. they seem fine with supporting anti gay regimes in other countries.:shrug:
user104658
17-07-2024, 08:47 AM
There wont be a single maga follower whose family is all "pure bred" and it is certainly the case for the leaders
I beg to differ bots. There will be podunk MAGA families who consider anything beyond a first cousin to be a genetic stretch too far :hehe:.
Niamh.
17-07-2024, 09:03 AM
Im not lazy like the neemsters. At least I try, and am polite enough to attempt to get your name right.
It will forever be Neem from now on though, just dont see it as me being friendly though.
No fear of that :laugh:
Liam-
17-07-2024, 09:17 AM
https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1813357303820886054?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Sounds like yet another threat of violence if they lose the election, business as normal in the maga cult
No fear of that :laugh:
I dont laugh with hypocrites.
So how are the Democrats gonna get rid of Biden before the election?
Pay him off to retire?
Impeachment?
Assassinate him? (Obviously if they take this route, they will make it look like a Trump supporter did it)
Hillary is making a comeback.
Niamh.
17-07-2024, 09:30 AM
I dont laugh with hypocrites.
:thumbs:
Glenn.
17-07-2024, 10:08 AM
Probably.. they seem fine with supporting anti gay regimes in other countries.:shrug:
What?
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 09:14 PM
FIRE 🔥🔥🔥🔥
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSt8e69akAAHbwB?format=jpg&name=small
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 11:45 PM
Some of the maga nuts have already turned on Vance because his wife is an Indian immigrant, it’s hateful and ignorant, but I find the irony hysterical
I saw a nutjob going off on one on Twitter yesterday about this.
I wish that I could remember his name.:laugh:
I don't remember if it came up here or not about whether people are getting more radicalized. But if their daily diet consists mainly of news and places like X with no real exposure to the thing they are reading about, and rejecting communication with individuals whose views are more nuanced, then it is very easy to become more radical in views... especially given enough time. I would say it is 80-90% chance, it is pretty much guaranteed. Addictively reading the news is probably worse for us than having an addiction to liking puppy photos on Instagram. If it is real world information, it is harder to get addicted.... we don't see people get addicted to wikipedia in the same way and yelling at other people over a page of botany (think banal)
arista
18-07-2024, 04:31 AM
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I don't remember if it came up here or not about whether people are getting more radicalized. But if their daily diet consists mainly of news and places like X with no real exposure to the thing they are reading about, and rejecting communication with individuals whose views are more nuanced, then it is very easy to become more radical in views... especially given enough time. I would say it is 80-90% chance, it is pretty much guaranteed. Addictively reading the news is probably worse for us than having an addiction to liking puppy photos on Instagram. If it is real world information, it is harder to get addicted.... we don't see people get addicted to wikipedia in the same way and yelling at other people over a page of botany (think banal)
…yeah I think that’s a huge part, isn’t it…not having any balance and too much single focus on specific negative areas or topics or world event, you know…there’s that saying, step out and touch the grass or something similar…?..it’s not a literal thing, it’s just more about absorbing balances of information to keep more sound perspectives…
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 07:48 AM
1813767878354903546
beautiful speech
Cherie
18-07-2024, 07:54 AM
Cute, we tend to forget the families surrounding the candidates and that goes for both of them
Cute, we tend to forget the families surrounding the candidates and that goes for both of themJust for you Cherie. To show I'm not bias.
VX0wEBAxY1o
Liam-
18-07-2024, 10:27 AM
https://twitter.com/bidenhq/status/1813682161423151515?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
I for one am shocked at this revelation
Niamh.
18-07-2024, 10:30 AM
https://twitter.com/bidenhq/status/1813682161423151515?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
I for one am shocked at this revelation
What a time to be a woman in America!
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 10:37 AM
Jdot will be a fine President in the future
:clap1:
…I didn’t realise that Stephen King was a big non-fan….
1813566903358742835
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 10:42 AM
…I didn’t realise that Stephen King was a big non-fan….
1813566903358742835
He is a rabid leftist and is going madder by the week, sadly :sad:
Niamh.
18-07-2024, 10:45 AM
Jdot will be a fine President in the future
:clap1:
Do you think abortion should be banned?
Niamh.
18-07-2024, 10:50 AM
Wow this guy is a real piece of work.............. Chilling.
"https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1812936472095232385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 10:57 AM
Do you think abortion should be banned?
Its up to each state to make its policy regarding abortion in a democratic way
Look the Dems have latched on to this non story because they genuinely have nothing else :shrug:
They are finished and need to sort out who is actually going to be standing against Trump and Vance - that is a far more pressing concern for their own voters!
I guess this distraction tactic is to buy them time to get that huge issue sorted
user104658
18-07-2024, 10:59 AM
Its up to each state to make its policy regarding abortion in a democratic way
Politician's answer, too many Farage YouTube videos. The question was do you think abortion should be banned, not even do you think each state should have the right to decide, let alone "does each state have the right to set the policy" (the question you answered that was never asked).
Niamh.
18-07-2024, 11:00 AM
Its up to each state to make its policy regarding abortion in a democratic way
Look the Dems have latched on to this non story because they genuinely have nothing else :shrug:
They are finished and need to sort out who is actually going to be standing against Trump and Vance - that is a far more pressing concern for their own voters!
I guess this distraction tactic is to buy them time to get that huge issue sorted
Claiming he wants a nationwide ban on abortion and that he thinks women should stay married to violent men may be a distraction to you, would be a bit more than that for a lot of people though.
More soundbites cherry picked to stir up more hatred and division.
user104658
18-07-2024, 11:10 AM
Claiming he wants a nationwide ban on abortion and that he thinks women should stay married to violent men may be a distraction to you, would be a bit more than that for a lot of people though.
It's more insidious than that really; the idea that abusive relationships should persist "for the children" is already one that's quite firmly ingrained for many people, so even if it never gets anywhere near law or policy, just saying it as a high-profile politician will further the mindset and cause untold damage.
Niamh.
18-07-2024, 11:17 AM
It's more insidious than that really; the idea that abusive relationships should persist "for the children" is already one that's quite firmly ingrained for many people, so even if it never gets anywhere near law or policy, just saying it as a high-profile politician will further the mindset and cause untold damage.
Absolutely. His logic of staying for the sake of the children is crazy as well. He thinks it's better for them to grow up seeing their mother being beaten by their father and thinking this is how relationships are, than for them to be be shown this is not ok and should not be tolerated? So sending sons out thinking men hit their wives and daughters out thinking that being hit by their husband is ok and normal?
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 11:25 AM
More soundbites cherry picked to stir up more hatred and division.
desperation I'm afraid
user104658
18-07-2024, 11:28 AM
More soundbites cherry picked to stir up more hatred and division.
desperation I'm afraid
Whether it is or isn't is irrelevant; clearly people get so caught up in the politics that they're blinkered to the real-world effects of the discourse itself.
Niamh.
18-07-2024, 11:30 AM
Whether it is or isn't is irrelevant; clearly people get so caught up in the politics that they're blinkered to the real-world effects of the discourse itself.
Exactly. No one on this forum (or maybe 1 person - Maru?) is going to be voting for any of them so I don't get where these party loyalties even come from
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 11:40 AM
https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/ftcms%3A1f424dbe-dcd9-4ca0-a425-dbc242d75ad8?source=next-article&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&width=800&dpr=1
user104658
18-07-2024, 12:00 PM
Exactly. No one on this forum (or maybe 1 person - Maru?) is going to be voting for any of them so I don't get where these party loyalties even come from
I mean, there's been a suspicious uptick in the focus on US politics (which appears to be trending towards Republican at the moment) since the UK voted Labour and all of the Reform hoohaa died down post-General Election.
Same reason when I was a young 'un in Ayrshire, Scotland, we had kids declaring themselves passionate Manchester United fans (who were at the time coincidentally, dominating the English Premier League) :joker:. Funnily enough it was immediately following Ranger's infamous "9-in-a-row" when they stopped winning everything in Scotland :think:. All coincidental probably.
tl;dr people like to be on the winning side, but politics is so partisan these days that people won't do a "polar flip" (Rangers fans could never stomach a flip to Celtic, 'cos sectarianism) to feel like a winner... they'll just find a different team to suckle for those winning-warm-feelings. They don't have to think about a Labour landslide if they can celebrate by latching onto a Trump win across the ocean.
We called it "glory hunting" I think :think:.
user104658
18-07-2024, 12:03 PM
"Hahaha! Trump won! You don't like Trump and he won! You must be so pressed! Hahaha!"
- TiBB SD's, November 2024 :hehe:
But we shan't have personal attacks :nono:
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 12:37 PM
President Trump being hugged by his grandson. The side of Trump the
MSM refuses to show you.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSvjU6QWsAAtf-p?format=jpg&name=900x900
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 12:40 PM
🚨🇺🇸NEW FOOTAGE SHOWS TRUMP DODGED PERFECTLY AIMED SHOT
Close-up footage reveals Thomas Crooks' shot was perfectly centered on Trump's head.
Trump’s 'head tilt' to look at a screen graphic and leaning into the microphone saved his life.
The footage was captured just seconds before the shot.
see the amazing graphic here: https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1813626264957440282
WOW
user104658
18-07-2024, 12:46 PM
WOW
Trigger warning: DISGUSTING gif joke inside do not click if you are overly sensitive or inclined to be performatively so. You have been warned!
:omgno: He is the one.
https://up.gc-img.net/post_img/2021/12/anCGN2l9WEg991k_HRHGx_23.gif
arista
18-07-2024, 02:31 PM
The FBI Lady Boss
needs to be Sacked
It is OK for Secret Service Snipers on
to stay on a sloped roof
But her agents on health and safety
would not go on the Terrorist's roof.
How the hell did the Lady get to the top?
Boxes needed ticked unfortunately arista.
Liam-
18-07-2024, 02:59 PM
https://twitter.com/wilson__valdez/status/1813766705346228246?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
user104658
18-07-2024, 03:01 PM
"During his son's speech" - understandable to be fair.
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 03:05 PM
https://twitter.com/wilson__valdez/status/1813766705346228246?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
More fake news from LIAM
Fact Check: Trump’s eyes were closed during prayer at RNC; he was not asleep
https://www.reuters.com/resizer/v2/GGUXGTGFHJERPOGHJ5UIW6CULA.jpg?auth=6bb8d15fb83eba 989d7fc7aa72e62b0aa50204320a19f0e7018cd7f69e166bf2&width=720&quality=80
VERDICT
Misleading. The image shared online shows Donald Trump with his eyes
closed during a prayer at the Republican National Convention, not asleep.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about
our fact-checking work.
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/trumps-eyes-were-closed-during-prayer-rnc-he-was-not-asleep-2024-07-17/
arista
18-07-2024, 03:06 PM
Boxes needed ticked unfortunately arista.
Yes
but the FBI Lady Boss
must get sacked
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 03:09 PM
Yes
but the FBI Lady Boss
must get sacked
She should never have been given the job
DEI madness has nearly led to a catastrophe for USA
Liam-
18-07-2024, 03:14 PM
Every headline across America would be about Biden if he had fallen asleep at event like this, the media is protecting sleepy Don to appease their billionaire, Trump donating bosses
user104658
18-07-2024, 04:15 PM
More importantly -- bad pictures of Biden when he happens to be making a goofy expression, mid sentence, slinking or whatever are used constantly by RW media outlets as "evidence" that he's failing mentally/has dementia or whatever.
Anyone who has ever seen a screenshot of a Teams call knows that if you take a snapshot of people at any time, sometimes a face is going to be caught in a weird position for a split second.
Infamously there is a picture of my workplace when we were being visited by a "high profile person" and by poor coincidence, all 6 of us who were in the office must have blinked at the same time, 'cos it looks like EVERYONE is asleep :joker:.
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 04:43 PM
More importantly -- bad pictures of Biden when he happens to be making a goofy expression, mid sentence, slinking or whatever are used constantly by RW media outlets as "evidence" that he's failing mentally/has dementia or whatever.
Anyone who has ever seen a screenshot of a Teams call knows that if you take a snapshot of people at any time, sometimes a face is going to be caught in a weird position for a split second.
Infamously there is a picture of my workplace when we were being visited by a "high profile person" and by poor coincidence, all 6 of us who were in the office must have blinked at the same time, 'cos it looks like EVERYONE is asleep :joker:.
I watched Biden go up and come down the steps of Airforce one today and if that was my Father I would never allow him to do that unaccompanied - its so cruel - I know they don't want a person to support him but where the actual f.uck is is evil heartless wife - she should demand it?
If he fell coming down I swear he would die
Its beyond heartless and cruel
user104658
18-07-2024, 05:05 PM
US Politics being thrown into turmoil by Joe Biden falling head first down the steps of Airforce One would actually be iconic.
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 05:08 PM
US Politics being thrown into turmoil by Joe Biden falling head first down the steps of Airforce One would actually be iconic.
don't rule it out! :laugh:
…what they were all wearing this week at the Republican National Convention…
https://www.reuters.com/resizer/v2/P7ZJCCKG3ZMNRD6GIYQYTA34EA.jpg?auth=685bacb28f360b ed4036894de9c361da6b1524e785e67fe0e102cd835d4bb916&width=1200&quality=80
Liam-
18-07-2024, 05:21 PM
…what they were all wearing this week at the Republican National Convention…
https://www.reuters.com/resizer/v2/P7ZJCCKG3ZMNRD6GIYQYTA34EA.jpg?auth=685bacb28f360b ed4036894de9c361da6b1524e785e67fe0e102cd835d4bb916&width=1200&quality=80
But they wouldn’t wear masks because they aren’t ‘sheep’
But they wouldn’t wear masks because they aren’t ‘sheep’
…hmmmm, yeah there’s that…but tbf…(…and I’m no fan of Mr Trump at all…)…the MAGA hats have made it evident that his fans are all perfectly fine with representing their support for their guy in a ‘uniform’ type style…but the masks weren’t something that supported him, they were something that represented something that some felt didn’t exist…their refusal to wear masks was more a denial thing I would have thought…
But they wouldn’t wear masks because they aren’t ‘sheep’You did, because your masters told you too.
They're doing this of their free will.
…what they were all wearing this week at the Republican National Convention…
https://www.reuters.com/resizer/v2/P7ZJCCKG3ZMNRD6GIYQYTA34EA.jpg?auth=685bacb28f360b ed4036894de9c361da6b1524e785e67fe0e102cd835d4bb916&width=1200&quality=80
a lot of them started wearing nappies when it was revealed that trump wore one :laugh:
a lot of them started wearing nappies when it was revealed that trump wore one :laugh:
…please…that’s way too much information …
More importantly -- bad pictures of Biden when he happens to be making a goofy expression, mid sentence, slinking or whatever are used constantly by RW media outlets as "evidence" that he's failing mentally/has dementia or whatever.
Anyone who has ever seen a screenshot of a Teams call knows that if you take a snapshot of people at any time, sometimes a face is going to be caught in a weird position for a split second.
Infamously there is a picture of my workplace when we were being visited by a "high profile person" and by poor coincidence, all 6 of us who were in the office must have blinked at the same time, 'cos it looks like EVERYONE is asleep :joker:.
John mcrirrick?
Liam-
18-07-2024, 05:54 PM
…hmmmm, yeah there’s that…but tbf…(…and I’m no fan of Mr Trump at all…)…the MAGA hats have made it evident that his fans are all perfectly fine with representing their support for their guy in a ‘uniform’ type style…but the masks weren’t something that supported him, they were something that represented something that some felt didn’t exist…their refusal to wear masks was more a denial thing I would have thought…
a lot of them started wearing nappies when it was revealed that trump wore one :laugh:
It’s literally a cult and anybody that denies it, at this point, is either seriously stupid or wilfully blind
I think the american people see an 80yr old multi billionaire who could be lounging about on yachts playing golf anywhere he chose till the end of his days. He didnt do that, instead he devoted it to saving america, and making it great again. The fact that it has now nearly cost him his life but for an act of god will only make him more appealing to people.
It's funny how the Christians of America side with Trump, and despise Biden, they must see evil in Biden.
It’s literally a cult and anybody that denies it, at this point, is either seriously stupid or wilfully blind
…the ‘Messiah’/‘Saviour’ and similar type descriptives etc are for sure very cult-like and not something generally seen so much in the western world of politics and country leaders…
arista
18-07-2024, 06:04 PM
It’s literally a cult and anybody that denies it, at this point, is either seriously stupid or wilfully blind
Sure Slick Liam
but on the Election
Half the Nation backs Trump
Democrats are awaiting a younger New Leader
Biden was meant to be a one-time leader.
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 06:11 PM
It’s literally a cult and anybody that denies it, at this point, is either seriously stupid or wilfully blind
:joker:
You are getting more and more desperate
Liam-
18-07-2024, 06:12 PM
Sure Slick Liam
but on the Election
Half the Nation backs Trump
Democrats are awaiting a younger New Leader
Biden was meant to be a one-time leader.
Who said Biden was going to be a one term president?
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 06:14 PM
Sure Slick Liam
but on the Election
Half the Nation backs Trump
Democrats are awaiting a younger New Leader
Biden was meant to be a one-time leader.
more than half now
people are deserting the desperate Dems in their millions
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 06:30 PM
Donald Trump vs Kamala Harris Polling by Insider Advantage
GEORGIA
🟥 Trump: 47% (+10)
🟦 Harris: 37%
🟪 Other: 7%
—
FLORIDA
🟥 Trump: 49% (+10)
🟦 Harris: 39%
🟪 Other: 7%
—
PENNSYLVANIA
🟥 Trump: 47% (+7)
🟦 Harris: 40%
🟪 Other: 8%
—
NEVADA
🟥 Trump: 50% (+10)
🟦 Harris: 40%
🟪 Other: 7%
—
ARIZONA
🟥 Trump: 48% (+6)
🟦 Harris: 42%
🟪 Other: 7%
—
#86 (2.0/3.0) | 7/15-16 | 4,000 LV
Big Mike Obama and Killary Clinton will be the Democrat ticket.
The Obama's and Clinton's are posistioning themselves in the background.
How they get to there is gonna be an interesting watch.
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 06:39 PM
Big Mike Obama and Killary Clinton will be the Democrat ticket.
The Obama's and Clinton's are posistioning themselves in the background.
How they get to there is gonna be an interesting watch.
Obama and Big Mike have been running the show for the last 12 months
Obama and Big Mike have been running the show for the last 12 monthsTrue
They will be more popular with the Democrat base. Two Women. One Black one White. The left love anything like that. They love their identity politics.
The problem for them is Trump still has his Trump cards to play. He declassified everything when he was last President. He has the dirt on them all.
All hail the 2nd coming
Coming live on stage shortly..
https://www.youtube.com/live/RSbbCPPFjQ0?si=kmVLsKsdriMHZfmU
arista
18-07-2024, 11:25 PM
Live on CNN HD USA on UK TV
Linda McMahon (former CEO of WWE)
JD on stage now.When is Hulk Hogan on?
What you gonna do when MAGA and Hulkamania run wild on yoooou?
1814078876911362427
The Hulkster has arrived.
1814076597764575544
arista
18-07-2024, 11:59 PM
LIVE CNN HD USA on UK TV
Clever to put a fella with a microphone,
at the lower levels,
but his mic has no name on it.
Get em' Hulkster
1814086561241166256
This is a very very strong speech by the next vice president.
When is Hulk Hogan on?
I think wcw used to be 11.35pm midweek, an hour before Prisoner Cell Block H . That's all I know.
And did you see lizzie in a top hat during the assassination attempt?
arista
19-07-2024, 12:42 AM
FoxNewsHD USA Live
is showing the bloke they sacked
Tucker Carlson
BBCnewsHD had him on a Split Screen
but has 3 talking
over him
arista
19-07-2024, 12:44 AM
When is Hulk Hogan on?
CNN HD USA Live on UK TV
Just showed the big screen
Coming Up
Hulk Hogan
Silly thought..
But wasnt there 2 or 3 bullets before trump grabbed his ear.
Lol. My minds on over drive trying to distrust this guy. He is just to perfect for a leader of a nation that can provide for itself.
Luckily we have pacts with america he wont break..
arista
19-07-2024, 01:12 AM
Trump is going live at around 3AM
UK Time.
arista
19-07-2024, 01:15 AM
Silly thought..
But wasnt there 2 or 3 bullets before trump grabbed his ear.
Lol. My minds on over drive trying to distrust this guy. He is just to perfect for a leader of a nation that can provide for itself.
Luckily we have pacts with america he wont break..
No First shot missed his head
got his ear.
Secret Service Fired
many shots back at the young Evil Terrorist
Right in his head
Through his mouth, in fact. I've a picture of the head and shoulders portion of his corpse that someone shared with me.
arista
19-07-2024, 01:20 AM
Through his mouth, in fact. I've a picture of the head and shoulders portion of his corpse that someone shared with me.
The point is once that Terrorist took
his first shot
he was dead, it was fast,
I know, I wasn't disputing it.
Ah ok..one more thing arista.and thank you for answering that last question...
Is it true the snipers have to wait until a shot has been fired? I read thay somewhere but never followed through on seeing if it was true.
Through his mouth, in fact. I've a picture of the head and shoulders portion of his corpse that someone shared with me.
Does it look like one of those upper body martial arts training dummies?
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