[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..hmmmmm, do you think they're all 'damaged' though..maybe some just make bad choices and then if they have children, their children sometimes become 'victims' of their bad choices...?...

that's exactly what i'm saying... whenever you think someone's a victim, you always find that the victimizer was also a victim, and so on. The idea of victimhood goes back to the beginning. But who was the original abuser that set off this chain reaction of victims and victimizers?

so who was the original abuser? you can go back centuries to try to find him/her.

if you are religious, you might have to say the original abuser was God.

the blame game can be played forever. and only God is forever.

God started it all. if you think there is one.

That's why i don't believe in God, because if there was a God, he's an asshole for starting this. I certainly wouldn't praise him for creating this mess.

There is no glory in what he's done if he does exist. If there is a God he owes us all an apology.