[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

that's exactly what i'm saying... whenever you think someone's a victim, you always find that the victimizer was also a victim, and so on. The idea of victimhood goes back to the beginning. But who was the original abuser that set off this chain reaction of victims and victimizers?

so who was the original abuser? you can go back centuries to try to find him/her.

if you are religious, you might have to say the original abuser was God.

the blame game can be played forever. and only God is forever.

God started it all. if you think there is one.

That's why i don't believe in God, because if there was a God, he's an asshole for starting this. I certainly wouldn't praise him for creating this mess.

There is no glory in what he's done if he does exist. If there is a God he owes us all an apology.

....God didn't think this all through, did he.........

..but yeah, I do understand what you're saying...and parents have such a responsibility to their children to not 'pass down' all of the bad stuff but inevitably it will happen to one degree or another, no matter how hard we try not to...Alex, just going off topic...have you ever traced your family tree or ever thought about it..?...