[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LukeB

he's already won. He's on big brother and getting everyone talking and getting some people acting like hypocrites by pretending they are perfect when they have done worse especially on this forum.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

No. Being cheated on is horrific either way. I was a mess when I got cheated on, I blamed myself which in hindesight was so silly.

He must have very little humility if he can do that to a person 4 times.

Yeh, cant be an accident if you do it more than once really.

It just sounds like hes tried to surpress his sexuality perhaps? But inevitably caved. And that does sound slightly less douchey than other reasons for cheating imo.

It does make him a bit douchey, especially considering he cheated on a man with a man.... but not as douchey as the average serial cheat from my perspective.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So remorseful he repeated the mistake in multiple relationships?

Yes because i obviously meant he was remoseful and then went on to cheat again, but you make up and believe what you like

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Clearly not as he cheated on four different people.

It's a Human flaw that he has, overall I like that he feels like a Human Being.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

he's already won. He's on big brother and getting everyone talking and getting some people acting like hypocrites by pretending they are perfect when they have done worse especially on this forum.

Who's done worse than cheat

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm not saying that what Raph did was right, but I'm sure that he'd said something like this on here in the past and it wasn't blown into such an epic proportion like it is now.

Tbf scrutiny is fair game when it's televised for the country to see

[Novo]

All was forgiven when he voted Trump, his sins have been revoked.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LukeB

he's already won. He's on big brother and getting everyone talking and getting some people acting like hypocrites by pretending they are perfect when they have done worse especially on this forum.

I agree just getting on there when he is such a fan makes him a winner, and it makes it s really interesting watch

[T*]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm not saying that what Raph did was right, but I'm sure that he'd said something like this on here in the past and it wasn't blown into such an epic proportion like it is now.

It really does feel like some people are being trendy on here by disliking Raph to say "look I dislike someone on the show that posts on the same Forum as me" I mean we've got some shocking people in there and people want to carry on some sort of grievance with a chilled out dude who's a bit eccentric on certain issues, and isn't perfect on everything.

This is ridiculous. 'Oh you don't like him, it's because you're trying to be edgy!!!'
not really, people are trying to have their opinions on him as a HM rather than having a bias by knowing him. Sorry.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Drew.

I don't condone it, but people feel remorse for all types of things, i don't know why cheating has to be excluded from it?

I'm not saying anyone is condoning his cheating but can you blame anyone for questioning how remorseful he is after he admitted he cheated on 4 partners?

Once is a mistake but 4 times? Nope.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm not saying that what Raph did was right, but I'm sure that he'd said something like this on here in the past and it wasn't blown into such an epic proportion like it is now.

It really does feel like some people are being trendy on here by disliking Raph to say "look I dislike someone on the show that posts on the same Forum as me" I mean we've got some shocking people in there and people want to carry on some sort of grievance with a chilled out dude who's a bit eccentric on certain issues, and isn't perfect on everything.

Because it wasn't a topic on an episode of the very TV show this forum was created to discuss? Whereas now... it is.

Shocking I know.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by T*

This is ridiculous. 'Oh you don't like him, it's because you're trying to be edgy!!!'
not really, people are trying to have their opinions on him as a HM rather than having a bias by knowing him. Sorry.

If another HM was the one exposed, they would have been righteously scrutinised also.

[T*]

This is purely speculation (about him as a HM, not as a member) but on BOTS yesterday Raph was in the diary room talking about his gameplan and this was analysed by Trisha Goddard

What i'm thinking is perhaps these two events might be connected and it was Raph explaining that he was fake crying for his game and it wasn't shown or something and he was trying to do something similar to BBUS and BBCAN where after a game move they were explaining his strategy?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yeh, cant be an accident if you do it more than once really.

It just sounds like hes tried to surpress his sexuality perhaps? But inevitably caved. And that does sound slightly less douchey than other reasons for cheating imo.

It does make him a bit douchey, especially considering he cheated on a man with a man.... but not as douchey as the average serial cheat from my perspective.

See that last paragraph is why its not better than being cheated on with another girl cos in your eyes the only time it was bad was when he cheated on a guy so the other relationships werent "real" but they would have been for the girls so thats an extra hurt to deal with

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm not saying that what Raph did was right, but I'm sure that he'd said something like this on here in the past and it wasn't blown into such an epic proportion like it is now.

It really does feel like some people are being trendy on here by disliking Raph to say "look I dislike someone on the show that posts on the same Forum as me" I mean we've got some shocking people in there and people want to carry on some sort of grievance with a chilled out dude who's a bit eccentric on certain issues, and isn't perfect on everything.

Also take into account he isn't exactly liked by the public either. It's hardly trendy or edgy.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's a Human flaw that he has, overall I like that he feels like a Human Being.

You can like it. I will continue not to.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

He's feeling sorry for himself because he knows he will look bad to the hms & public. He should have been more careful what he was telling the producers to get a place in the house.

I agree. He has obviously given this information to make good housemate material. He knows the show inside and out...don't tell me he didn't think this stuff would be exposed
Then crying about it purely out of concern on how it will make him look is pathetic.
TIBB member or not...I will judge him like any other housemate. He is not dislikeable by any means...I don't really care about what he has done. But just stand up and say you regret it instead of crying for the sympathy vote. The most telling thing is that he really only cares about the way it portrays HIM and how it may ruin his chances of progressing in his beloved programme.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Who's done worse than cheat

All i'm saying is twitter and ammi

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Tbf scrutiny is fair game when it's televised for the country to see

I just feel like some people will scrutinise Raph on here out of some sort of personal vendetta against him even if he said the Sky was blue.

I mean we've got some right twats in there, and people seem to think it's cool to go for Raph, I honestly don't get it as his a great Forum member on here, and his been a likable Housemate so far.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Yes because i obviously meant he was remoseful and then went on to cheat again, but you make up and believe what you like

I've not made anything up you're the one telling us what Raph thinks pal?

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I'm not saying anyone is condoning his cheating but can you blame anyone for questioning how remorseful he is after he admitted he cheated on 4 partners?

Once is a mistake but 4 times? Nope.

I don't blame anyone for questioning it, i just think it's a chance some people were waiting for to jump in to grill him

[T*]

Originally Posted by reece(:

If another HM was the one exposed, they would have been righteously scrutinised also.

I'm honestly just getting sick of feeling like walking on eggshells everytime I want to say something about him as a HM. Apparently it's 'overbearing' yet everytime the camera goes on him there's reams of posts about him. I get the excitement and everything, but the people saying criticism are apparently the overbearing ones. Hmm.

[Novo]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Also take into account he isn't exactly liked by the public either. It's hardly trendy or edgy.

Steady on Columbo, he hasn't faced a public vote yet

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

See that last paragraph is why its not better than being cheated on with another girl cos in your eyes the only time it was bad was when he cheated on a guy so the other relationships werent "real" but they would have been for the girls so thats an extra hurt to deal with

Yeh.. I presumed they werent really meaningful relationships.. like hes gay.. how far can he literally go with a girl? But perhaps im wrong, maybe they were meaningful. Guess id need more info.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

All i'm saying is twitter and ammi

Drop it Luke