[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What if there was a bakery that only offered birthday cakes would that be discrimination to other events ? . Or what if there was a bakery that didn't do bar mitzvah celebration cakes? is that offensive to jewish people? .

It's not as simple as to just say "oh it's discrimination" , is that the answer to everything when you don't get what you want? go to court ? i don't agree with that .

That's not what happened? So, again, you're debating something no one else is.

The bakery doesn't "only offer birthday cakes" he declined to make a cake for a wedding because they are gay. That's what actually happened. Discrimination, no matter what silly diversionary arguments you make.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's not what happened? So, again, you're debating something no one else is.

You're not addressing what i just said . If you don't get what you want or if somebody has offended you ? is the answer to always go to court? no matter how petty it is ?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You're not addressing what i just said . If you don't get what you want or if somebody has offended you ? is the answer to always go to court? no matter how petty it is ?

No. Because, again, that's not what happened here and is not what's being discussed.

They didn't rock up to an ice cream shop and ask for a pork sandwich.
They didn't rock up to a "Birthday Cake Bakery" and ask for a wedding cake.
They turned up at a bakery that bakes cakes for weddings and other occasions and were declined what they asked for on the basis that they are a same sex couple. (ie. discrimination).

That's what happened.

So, go off on a tangent with stories and examples that mock them, but the facts don't change.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No. Because, again, that's not what happened here and is not what's being discussed.

They didn't rock up to an ice cream shop and ask for a pork sandwich.
They didn't rock up to a "Birthday Cake Bakery" and ask for a wedding cake.
They turned up at a bakery that bakes cakes for weddings and other occasions and were declined what they asked for on the basis that they are a same sex couple. (ie. discrimination).

That's what happened.

So, go off on a tangent with stories and examples that mock them, but the facts don't change.

I never mocked anyone , i'm just giving my opinion .

There was a story about a bakery in indonesia who refused to write "merry Christmas" on a cake for a customer due to religious beliefs is that discrimination? .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I never mocked anyone , i'm just giving my opinion .

There was a story about a bakery in indonesia who refused to write "merry Christmas" on a cake for a customer due to religious beliefs is that discrimination? .

You are.

"What if there was a bakery that only offered birthday cakes would that be discrimination to other events ? . Or what if there was a bakery that didn't do bar mitzvah celebration cakes? is that offensive to jewish people?"

This is not a comparison but a complete exaggeration and mocking of the facts.
This didn't happen.

As for the Indonesian bakery, I don't know, I haven't heard/read that story.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You are.

"What if there was a bakery that only offered birthday cakes would that be discrimination to other events ? . Or what if there was a bakery that didn't do bar mitzvah celebration cakes? is that offensive to jewish people?"

This is not a comparison but a complete exaggeration and mocking of the facts.
This didn't happen.

As for the Indonesian bakery, I don't know, I haven't heard/read that story.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...-religious-row

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...-religious-row

That's discrimination too.

Refusing to serve someone on the basis of their colour, race, sexuality, gender, creed etc is discrimination.

So, mocking with "You wouldn't go into a book shop and ask for a wedding cake" type facetiousness is pointless.

If they were refusing actual offensive/hateful/criminal material then that would be one thing. They're not. They're applying religious discrimination, just as the US bakery were discriminatory on the basis of sexuality.

It would be like a bakery over here turning away a Jewish family for a bar mitzvah cake on the grounds they are Christian. It's completely ridiculous.