[JerseyWins]

Even if you want to say I contradicted myself... like... do you understand it now then after I explain what I actually mean by what I said?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Even if you want to say I contradicted myself... like... do you understand it now then after I explain what I actually mean by what I said?

There was never a point when I didn't understand. Hence me pointing out your wild contradictions.

Like I'm exaggerating? I haven't suggested kids are psychologically affected by not being able to wear trainers at all.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Jersey: It's not serious...

Also Jersey:

Originally Posted by Marsh.

There was never a point when I didn't understand. Hence me pointing out your wild contradictions.

Like I'm exaggerating? I haven't suggested kids are psychologically affected by not being able to wear trainers at all.

You're being smug, condescending, and a sarcastic smartass in every post. It's a serious debate now from my perspective. I'm just trying to debate against school uniforms while you're simply zoning in on specific delusional contradictions even after I draw it out how they're not contradictions at all. It's just something you haven't wrapped around being more than a black and white concept lol.

The debate seems to be over for you at this point though... now I don't even know your counter-argument yet when it's ended after countless back and forth posts

Just curious, have you learned psychology? Many kids do and will get psychologically affected if they don't feel comfortable in their own clothes btw. It's actually a common argument FOR school uniforms as well (ie within the bullying argument) but it depends which way you look at it and which psychological side you agree with, for schools to have it or not. But that's already obvious and not an exaggeration unless you make it out to be something bigger than it is. My point with this in particular: I disagree that sheltering kids from wearing their own clothes is going to be a fix for bullying. It's putting a bandaid on a broken finger and not taking the right actions whatsoever.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

You're being smug, condescending, and a sarcastic smartass in every post.

And you're being contradictory, silly and a bit thick.

(See, we can both make personal remarks).

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

The debate seems to be over for you at this point though... now I don't even know your counter-argument yet when it's ended after countless back and forth posts

Just curious, have you learned psychology? Many kids do and will get psychologically affected if they don't feel comfortable in their own clothes btw. It's actually a common argument FOR school uniforms as well (ie within the bullying argument) but it depends which way you look at it and which psychological side you agree with, for schools to have it or not. But that's already obvious and not an exaggeration unless you make it out to be something bigger than it is. My point with this in particular: I disagree that sheltering kids from wearing their own clothes is going to be a fix for bullying. It's putting a bandaid on a broken finger and not taking the right actions whatsoever.

Many kids learning about psychology is not evidence that school uniforms affect kids psychologically. Hilarious that you think it is tbh.

Still confused why you keep bringing the bullying argument up, I haven't mentioned bullying. Read my posts properly.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Many kids learning about psychology is not evidence that school uniforms affect kids psychologically. Hilarious that you think it is tbh.

Still confused why you keep bringing the bullying argument up, I haven't mentioned bullying. Read my posts properly.

"Many kids do and will get psychologically affected if they don't feel comfortable in their own clothes btw." Erm that was supposed to be one sentence that wasn't connected to the sentence before. Had nothing to do with psychology classes. I hope I haven't contradicted myself again now.

That's yet another time you just have responded to one little part of my argument, and it just so happens I meant something else again.

Idk if you're trying to do this as a troll at this point. But I do legitimately think I worded that pretty poorly so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time lol.

School uniforms will have some psychological effect on some kids. There's literally no way around that statement... like it might not be a common thing to you but it still happens and it should not be this hard to believe.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

"Many kids do and will get psychologically affected if they don't feel comfortable in their own clothes btw." Erm that was supposed to be one sentence that wasn't connected to the sentence before. Had nothing to do with psychology classes. I hope I haven't contradicted myself again now.

That's yet another time you just have responded to one little part of my argument, and it just so happens I meant something else again.

Idk if you're trying to do this as a troll at this point. But I do legitimately think I worded that pretty poorly so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time lol.

School uniforms will have some psychological effect on some kids. There's literally no way around that statement... like it might not be a common thing to you but it still happens and it should not be this hard to believe.

Yep, every post has been worded pretty poor tbh.

Stating "Some school uniforms will have some psychological effect" doesn't make it fact. Any evidence to back up this claim?

(Hmm, now I'm a troll. Yeah, keep digging).

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Marsh

And you're being contradictory, silly and a bit thick.

(See, we can both make personal remarks).

You already said all of this a ton of times in your previous posts btw. Just because you keep stating it doesn't make it fact You can't just misquote part of my sentence out of context and call it contradictory.

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yep, every post has been worded pretty poor tbh.

Stating "Some school uniforms will have some psychological effect" doesn't make it fact. Any evidence to back up this claim?

(Hmm, now I'm a troll. Yeah, keep digging).

I've already spent much more than the amount of time I'd like on this to be mostly ignored for false accusations of contradictions... I'm not going to look for article proof of this or quotes from kids to prove a point


Is anyone providing any evidence for their arguments that school uniforms: prevent bullying, saves time, creates a better learning environment, etc. etc. etc.

I can explain to you many examples again, just off the top of my head?

You need an article for facts that are already obvious? I don't see how you can't fathom that a kid could feel: uncomfortable with the type of uniform they're given (particularly something like a skirt for a girl if it's not a choice), restricted in their own creative style, being forced into constant repetition every morning, etc. all of which are psychological distractions in a young kid's mind. (some people like change, some people like expressing their own style in a wardrobe, etc. and it's their bodies not the school's) Some people start going crazy just from wearing the same color every day and things like that. There are weird little psychological things so many people have in the world... being forced to wear school uniforms can easily trigger one of these. And it's only little kids we're talking about here. It's also an easy reason for a troubled kid to become rebellious from it and then they're only worsening their education for something that is far from helping their education. A kid like that should be helped, not punished further for a policy that is quite pointless when it comes down to it.

Side note: You're telling me if a kid doesn't have the correct uniform they're going to be denied an education that day or punished in some way? That's ridiculous imho Discipline them in ways that matter for learning.

Again, I think that you still think just because I say psychological, it has to be this big proposition that means the child is going to have to get some therapy sessions as a result of the uniforms. It's how you're acting when I say the word psychological. Whatever psychological impact it might have on a kid is not as big of a deal as YOU'RE thinking. But it could be any or all of these minor psychological effects that a kid can have and it's not as non-existent in kids as you're pretending it to be.

If the uniforms aren't helping their education then I don't think they should have to wear them. Feel free to argue why they should have to wear them whenever you'd like..... ?