[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure
But at least Bill Maher debates both sides.


Unlike MSNBC HD

I do like that about Bill Maher.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No comment necessary

…strangely I was just reading this story in more detail…apparently Corey Comperatore‘s wife told the New York Times that Trump or his camp hadn’t at all been in contact with the family since her husband lost his life at the rally…Joe Biden had contacted her but she didn’t speak to him because she didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to, being a staunch Republican all of his life…she didn’t in any way hold Biden responsible but she just didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to talk to a devoted democrat…

…so sad, even in death that the political divide takes prime position before anything else and all of those words of…’Corey lost his life just because of his politics…’…and yet his politics are still receiving the more consideration than anything else because apparently in death, his own wishes would have centred around his politics…in that he wouldn’t have wanted his widow to allow any condolences or words of comfort/empathy from a Democrat…

…I honestly believe that many people sadly don’t see people anymore, they just look at someone and see a political belief…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…strangely I was just reading this story in more detail…apparently Corey Comperatore‘s wife told the New York Times that Trump or his camp hadn’t at all been in contact with the family since her husband lost his life at the rally…Joe Biden had contacted her but she didn’t speak to him because she didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to, being a staunch Republican all of his life…she didn’t in any way hold Biden responsible but she just didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to talk to a devoted democrat…

…so sad, even in death that the political divide takes prime position before anything else and all of those words of…’Corey lost his life just because of his politics…’…and yet his politics are still receiving the more consideration than anything else because apparently in death, his wishes would have centred around his politics…

…I honestly believe that many people sadly don’t see people anymore, they just look at someone and see a political belief…

I 100% think that this is the case for a lot of people.

It's why some people don't care about what happened to the Firefighter, or what nearly happened to Trump because they're Republicans, which in some people's eyes is a dirty word.

Similar issues with the anti-Democrat side, only just add Paedophilia allegations into the mix as the only difference really.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…strangely I was just reading this story in more detail…apparently Corey Comperatore‘s wife told the New York Times that Trump or his camp hadn’t at all been in contact with the family since her husband lost his life at the rally…Joe Biden had contacted her but she didn’t speak to him because she didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to, being a staunch Republican all of his life…she didn’t in any way hold Biden responsible but she just didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to talk to a devoted democrat…

…so sad, even in death that the political divide takes prime position before anything else and all of those words of…’Corey lost his life just because of his politics…’…and yet his politics are still receiving the more consideration than anything else because apparently in death, his wishes would have centred around his politics…

…I honestly believe that many people sadly don’t see people anymore, they just look at someone and see a political belief…

Great point Ammi, I heard something similar being said yesterday on a radio show people just dont respect alterative views any more ...its just division and hate on both sides

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…strangely I was just reading this story in more detail…apparently Corey Comperatore‘s wife told the New York Times that Trump or his camp hadn’t at all been in contact with the family since her husband lost his life at the rally…Joe Biden had contacted her but she didn’t speak to him because she didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to, being a staunch Republican all of his life…she didn’t in any way hold Biden responsible but she just didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to talk to a devoted democrat…

…so sad, even in death that the political divide takes prime position before anything else and all of those words of…’Corey lost his life just because of his politics…’…and yet his politics are still receiving the more consideration than anything else because apparently in death, his own wishes would have centred around his politics…in that he wouldn’t have wanted his widow to allow any condolences or words of comfort/empathy from a Democrat…

…I honestly believe that many people sadly don’t see people anymore, they just look at someone and see a political belief…

That's so sad. And I absolutely agree with you.

[bots]

telling america to tone down political violence is like telling the french to do it. It's never going to happen. Their whole republic was born from political violence and the polarisation is such at the moment that it is nearly identical in how it is going to play out

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

telling america to tone down political violence is like telling the french to do it. It's never going to happen. Their whole republic was born from political violence and the polarisation is such at the moment that it is nearly identical in how it is going to play out

The problem with the Americans doing it is that some of their neighbouring countries and allies citizens might decide to copy them, if they can see that it's A-okay to dehumanize like the way a lot of Americans are currently dehumanizing each other.

[Ninastar]

That’s absolutely what it comes down to. Not seeing people as human, but seeing them as a political belief. It’s awful. And the sad thing is it’s on both sides. I can honestly say that I have always fought for people to look beyond political opinions and just see people for who they are.

I have friends and family all over the political spectrum. Not one of them has ever hated on me for my sexuality or personal beliefs and I even know some crazy maga ppl.

I just hate all the name calling, the baiting and the pettiness this brings from all sides of politics.

Being happy a firefighter is dead and calling him a nazi because he was a trump supporter…. It’s just gross and tells me a lot about you as a person

I always wonder how many of these people who just look for a reason to hate on republicans/democrats have ever actually been to America and experienced what it’s truly like, not just what the media feeds you

I remember being so nervous to move to the south of America because of all the **** I heard. It turned out to be the friendliest place I had ever lived. They had a pride parade yearly and where I lived in the UK didn’t even celebrate it yet. I met amazing people of all races, backgrounds, political alignments etc and honestly, the only really crazy stuff I hear is from people on the internet

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

That’s absolutely what it comes down to. Not seeing people as human, but seeing them as a political belief. It’s awful. And the sad thing is it’s on both sides. I can honestly say that I have always fought for people to look beyond political opinions and just see people for who they are.

I have friends and family all over the political spectrum. Not one of them has ever hated on me for my sexuality or personal beliefs and I even know some crazy maga ppl.

I just hate all the name calling, the baiting and the pettiness this brings from all sides of politics.

Being happy a firefighter is dead and calling him a nazi because he was a trump supporter…. It’s just gross and tells me a lot about you as a person

I always wonder how many of these people who just look for a reason to hate on republicans/democrats have ever actually been to America and experienced what it’s truly like, not just what the media feeds you

I remember being so nervous to move to the south of America because of all the **** I heard. It turned out to be the friendliest place I had ever lived. They had a pride parade yearly and where I lived in the UK didn’t even celebrate it yet. I met amazing people of all races, backgrounds, political alignments etc and honestly, the only really crazy stuff I hear is from people on the internet

So in your first paragraph you talk about not seeing people as human. And in your second paragraph you call Trump supporters "crazy MAGA people"

And in your third paragraph you say "I hate all the name calling"

Make your mind up.

[Ninastar]

Eh, I know people on here don’t see the “crazy maga supporters” as humans so that’s why I used the term. I’m trying to explain that crazy maga supporters are just people with opinions

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Eh, I know people on here don’t see the “crazy maga supporters” as humans so that’s why I used the term. I’m trying to explain that crazy maga supporters are just people with opinions

Fair enough.

[Ninastar]

My mind will never be made up, it will alway and forever continue to argue both sides of any case ever

It’s a blessing and a curse x

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

That’s absolutely what it comes down to. Not seeing people as human, but seeing them as a political belief. It’s awful. And the sad thing is it’s on both sides. I can honestly say that I have always fought for people to look beyond political opinions and just see people for who they are.

I have friends and family all over the political spectrum. Not one of them has ever hated on me for my sexuality or personal beliefs and I even know some crazy maga ppl.

I just hate all the name calling, the baiting and the pettiness this brings from all sides of politics.

Being happy a firefighter is dead and calling him a nazi because he was a trump supporter…. It’s just gross and tells me a lot about you as a person

I always wonder how many of these people who just look for a reason to hate on republicans/democrats have ever actually been to America and experienced what it’s truly like, not just what the media feeds you

I remember being so nervous to move to the south of America because of all the **** I heard. It turned out to be the friendliest place I had ever lived. They had a pride parade yearly and where I lived in the UK didn’t even celebrate it yet. I met amazing people of all races, backgrounds, political alignments etc and honestly, the only really crazy stuff I hear is from people on the internet

….yeah, I believe that as well and that neither can see it or choose not to, is more the thing…

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Eh, I know people on here don’t see the “crazy maga supporters” as humans so that’s why I used the term. I’m trying to explain that crazy maga supporters are just people with opinions

Well said.

[Ninastar]

I just feel like the media is determined to try and keep us all separated by our beliefs. It’s much easier to control people that way

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Eh, I know people on here don’t see the “crazy maga supporters” as humans so that’s why I used the term. I’m trying to explain that crazy maga supporters are just people with opinions

I see them as humans, personally. Just dumb ones, with dumb opinions.

And before you all start, yes it's OK to say that some opinions are dumb, let's not start validating Flat Earthers and Joe Rogan fans.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Ammi

….yeah, I believe that as well and that neither can see it or choose not to, is more the thing…

Right, they care more about trying to prove the other person ‘wrong’ rather than trying to educate and inform people of why they believe what they believe

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I see them as humans, personally. Just dumb ones, with dumb opinions.

And before you all start, yes it's OK to say that some opinions are dumb, let's not start validating Flat Earthers and Joe Rogan fans.

Joe Rogan is a legend excuse your cheek

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I see them as humans, personally. Just dumb ones, with dumb opinions.

And before you all start, yes it's OK to say that some opinions are dumb, let's not start validating Flat Earthers and Joe Rogan fans.

Yep, humans that have been radicalised by a conman

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I see them as humans, personally. Just dumb ones, with dumb opinions.

And before you all start, yes it's OK to say that some opinions are dumb, let's not start validating Flat Earthers and Joe Rogan fans.

And that is totally fair to you. I think it’s daft to say that all people who are X supporters are XYZ!!!

You get smarties and fruit loops on all sides, nothing will ever change there

[bots]

Maga is now a cult, i don't think the dems are anything close to a cult. That's the basic difference for me. Do i like the dems? No, i certainly don't, but we are not comparing like with like

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yep, humans that have been radicalised by a conman

But not radicalised by the mainstream media right. Because they're honest and truthful as it comes, right?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Right, they care more about trying to prove the other person ‘wrong’ rather than trying to educate and inform people of why they believe what they believe

…yeah absolutely, everything is a tribal ‘vs’ thing, isn’t it ….pick a team …and it very much is encouraged by governments and media’s and all of those in power who want to keep the general public distracted…divide and conquer, I think is the expression…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by soldier boy

joe rogan fans.

Like you have ever watched joe rogan

[Alf]

The media told you that Hunter Biden's laptop was fake Russian disinformation. It turned out it was true and they knew it. So it was them with the disinformation.

The media told you about Trump and Russia. Russia, Russia for 3 years. And that turned out to be all dishonest, made-up rub. It was them with the disinformation.

But you'll keep going back to them and listening to them. Because that's what you do.