[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

For convenience's sake? If I moved to, say, Germany with a friend or my family - would I continually speak to them in German?

I still find it ignorant tbh.

If you could speak perfect german, would you still chose to speak in english around other people who could not speak english?

Especially if you had a business which would generally require you to speak in german for the customers to understand you...

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I still find it ignorant tbh.

If you could speak perfect german, would you still chose to speak in english around other people who could not speak english?

Especially if you had a business which would generally require you to speak in german for the customers to understand you...

Well that's exactly my point - not many foreign-born people do speak perfect English, just as many of us don't speak another language perfectly. The difference is they NEEDED to move abroad to find work, we don't. They have enough to worry about other than judgmental English folk scolding them for not greeting every customer with an 'awright guv'nor?'

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Well that's exactly my point - not many foreign-born people do speak perfect English, just as many of us don't speak another language perfectly. The difference is they NEEDED to move abroad to find work, we don't. They have enough to worry about other than judgmental English folk scolding them for not greeting every customer with an 'awright guv'nor?'

Yes, but the example I gave, they DO speak perfect English. We are actually quite good mates with 3 of the 4 that work there, and have been out drinking and such with them

They just chose not to, and as I said, I can think of no reason at all to speak foreign around english customers at work...except to slag them off :S

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes, but the example I gave, they DO speak perfect English. We are actually quite good mates with 3 of the 4 that work there, and have been out drinking and such with them

They just chose not to, and as I said, I can think of no reason at all to speak foreign around english customers at work...except to slag them off :S

Oh right. Well I guess it must just be a convenience thing...and yea probably bitching about you too

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Oh right. Well I guess it must just be a convenience thing...and yea probably bitching about you too

Am used to it, just prefer when I hear/understand the attempts at whispering instead, too nosey and like to hear what people say about me/others

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I still find it ignorant tbh.

If you could speak perfect german, would you still chose to speak in english around other people who could not speak english?

Especially if you had a business which would generally require you to speak in german for the customers to understand you...

Its not a conversation involving you so you shouldn't be so nosey

As I said a few posts back I speak OK Spanish but still speak English when over there and with another English person. Its not ignorant, its just easier

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

Its not a conversation involving you so you shouldn't be so nosey

As I said a few posts back I speak OK Spanish but still speak English when over there and with another English person. Its not ignorant, its just easier

OK spanish is a little different to perfect though, and surely if you had a business in spain you would make the effort to try and speak spanish to the non-english speaking folk who were spending money?

As for the first bit, yeah, far too nosey for my own good

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

OK spanish is a little different to perfect though, and surely if you had a business in spain you would make the effort to try and speak spanish to the non-english speaking folk who were spending money?

As for the first bit, yeah, far too nosey for my own good

I'm bi-lingual and speak Spanish.. The Spanish really don't have the same concept of racism as the English do.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'm bi-lingual and speak Spanish.. The Spanish really don't have the same concept of racism as the English do.

Erm, what on earth does that have to do with what I wrote

I was simply asking if living in spain, and being able to speak spanish, when running a business, surely you would speak spanish to customers who are only able to speak spanish themselves :S

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'm bi-lingual and speak Spanish.. The Spanish really don't have the same concept of racism as the English do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_H...n#Racial_abuse

[fruit_cake]

erm.. In Spain maybe if you're black they'll shout monkey noises at you, if your fat they'll call you fat or if you're ugly they'll call you ugly.. whereas in England fat or ugly people are allowed to be abused but black people are not.. The Spanish would probably say that is the real racism.

I remember being called Spanish bitch once at school and the teacher told them of for calling me Spanish.. it was apparently fine to call me a bitch though. I'm not even Spanish really. Weird standards the English have for racism with your anti-racism banners everywhere. yet you are allowed to call people bitches no problem.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

erm.. In Spain maybe if you're black they'll shout monkey noises at you, if your fat they'll call you fat or if you're ugly they'll call you ugly.. whereas in England fat people are allowed to be abused but black people are not.. The Spanish would probably say that is the real racism.

I remember being called Spanish bitch once at school and the teacher told them of for calling me Spanish.. it was apparently fine to call me a bitch though. I'm not even Spanish really. Weird standards the English have for racism with your anti-racism banners everywhere. yet you are allowed to call people bitches no problem.

Yes, what weird standards we have where it's unacceptable to shout out monkey noises at black people(!)

You cant compare calling someone fat, or saying someone is a bitch, to racially abusing somebody.