[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

Its not a conversation involving you so you shouldn't be so nosey

As I said a few posts back I speak OK Spanish but still speak English when over there and with another English person. Its not ignorant, its just easier

OK spanish is a little different to perfect though, and surely if you had a business in spain you would make the effort to try and speak spanish to the non-english speaking folk who were spending money?

As for the first bit, yeah, far too nosey for my own good

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

OK spanish is a little different to perfect though, and surely if you had a business in spain you would make the effort to try and speak spanish to the non-english speaking folk who were spending money?

As for the first bit, yeah, far too nosey for my own good

I'm bi-lingual and speak Spanish.. The Spanish really don't have the same concept of racism as the English do.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'm bi-lingual and speak Spanish.. The Spanish really don't have the same concept of racism as the English do.

Erm, what on earth does that have to do with what I wrote

I was simply asking if living in spain, and being able to speak spanish, when running a business, surely you would speak spanish to customers who are only able to speak spanish themselves :S

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'm bi-lingual and speak Spanish.. The Spanish really don't have the same concept of racism as the English do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_H...n#Racial_abuse

[fruit_cake]

erm.. In Spain maybe if you're black they'll shout monkey noises at you, if your fat they'll call you fat or if you're ugly they'll call you ugly.. whereas in England fat or ugly people are allowed to be abused but black people are not.. The Spanish would probably say that is the real racism.

I remember being called Spanish bitch once at school and the teacher told them of for calling me Spanish.. it was apparently fine to call me a bitch though. I'm not even Spanish really. Weird standards the English have for racism with your anti-racism banners everywhere. yet you are allowed to call people bitches no problem.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

erm.. In Spain maybe if you're black they'll shout monkey noises at you, if your fat they'll call you fat or if you're ugly they'll call you ugly.. whereas in England fat people are allowed to be abused but black people are not.. The Spanish would probably say that is the real racism.

I remember being called Spanish bitch once at school and the teacher told them of for calling me Spanish.. it was apparently fine to call me a bitch though. I'm not even Spanish really. Weird standards the English have for racism with your anti-racism banners everywhere. yet you are allowed to call people bitches no problem.

Yes, what weird standards we have where it's unacceptable to shout out monkey noises at black people(!)

You cant compare calling someone fat, or saying someone is a bitch, to racially abusing somebody.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yes, what weird standards we have where it's unacceptable to shout out monkey noises at black people(!)

You cant compare calling someone fat, or saying someone is a bitch, to racially abusing somebody.

why can you not compare them?? because you say so?? MTVN It you are being victimised it doesn't matter whether its because you are fat or because of your skin colour...

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

why can you not compare them?? because you say so?? MTVN It you are being victimised it doesn't matter whether its because you are fat or because of your skin colour...

Fat people have an element of control over how they look, they only really have themselves to blame for being the size they are and they are well within their capabilities to silm down, it's a health issue you cant say the same about somebodys race.

Black people cannot change their skin colour, they cannot change the way they were born. A self-inflicted health problem and somebodys race are not comparable. And if you want to look back through the history of discrimination I wonder whos had it worse? I doubt it's those who get the odd "fat" jibe every now and then