[the truth]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Sorry but this post makes me very uncomfortable. I am a white Briton of Christian descent but I see neither Islam nor immigrants as my enemy. And I'll pass on your street marches thanks.

not as uncomfortable as being assassinated for drawing cartoons?

[the truth]

diffeence is Jesus preached love forgiveness redemption etc the islamic code is infinitely harder line. but we brits in our mindless idiocracy, have sacrificed Christ and handed over the keys to all his churches to these hardliners who dont believe in forgiveness or redemption. we are insane

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

I think it's a shame that more people will hate normal islamic people because of this.

It is a shame... but instead of playing the victim, what a lot of Islamic people need to do is agree that these people give them a bad name. They need to agree that we have to do something about it. But making trends and posting things on the internet like 'not all muslims are bad!!!!!!1111' doesn't help. Anyone with a brain knows that all muslims arent bad. They need to pay respects to the victims and not complain and turn it into a sob story.

(I'm on about internet warriors... not the standard Muslim person. Every Muslim person I know IRL has mentioned how awful this is)

[billy123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I don't see how we would need to waive any of our rights to freedom and free speech Bitonthe side? We are already waiving away those rights daily by allowing these bastards to intimidate us and stop Nativity plays in our Christian schools, stop the wearing of crucifixes around the necks of our nurses, and a host of other 'forced' changes to our Western democratic way of life, and we are already allowing them to intimidate us and curb our rights to free speech because we dare not speak any truths if it is a truth about Muslims, immigrants or foreigners in general.

It is time to stop ALL immigration but especially of Muslims - be they Black, Brown, Asian or Eastern Europeans, and feck the EU - what are they going to do, slap us?

Time is NOT on our side and we have NOT got several generations. By that time we will all definitely be under Sharia law or dead.

Lebanon was a Westernised Christian democracy, and it became Islamified in less than half a generation.

When germs enter our bodies through our skin, the body's defence mechanicism kicks into action; the wound is sealed off to stop further infestation, and the little white soldiers which are our antibodies swoop on the invaders and kick the feck out of them to protect our bodies.

We should learn from nature - seal off our borders and stop letting the bastards in, thereby making it easier for our Security Services to deal with the millions already here.

We should also learn from current affairs because the atrocities in Holland, Australia and Paris weren't committed by an invading army, but by fecking IMMIGRANTS which those countries had welcomed and embraced and and allowed to live there. FFS even Jihadi John hails from the UK.

It's time now for the UK people to take to the streets, shout from the rooftops and go on strike if need be to FORCE our weak leaders to CLOSE our borders and stand up to the bastards who are already here. It's time to Stop appeasing them and start INVESTIGATING them. Sniff out the 5th columnists and sympathisers and BOOT the ***** out. Feck Brussels.

Possibly the most small minded and bigoted crap post i have ever read on here and that takes some doing. I have many friends of all religions and origins and some of them shock and horror are also people that have immigrated here and have just as much right to be here as you do.
Twice in my life i have had had to be evacuated due to bombs placed by Christian extremist groups and once been within earshot of a huge bomb detonated by Christians should i hate them? should i tar them all with the same brush?
No because that would be idiotic.
Get a sense of perspective ffs and stop reading too much right wing propaganda it's rotting your brain.
The amount of religious intolerance you display is so hypocritical coming from someone that claims to be a Christian and yet takes a piss fit whenever anyone sniggers at people that believe in a god.
Your post is offensive and discriminatory to almost a quarter of the people on the planet and is uneducated reactionary bollocks based on the actions of 3 lunatics.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Strict Muslims have nothing to do with any terrorism Arista. Only psychotic murdering devils carry out these atrocities using Islam as an excuse.

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I don't see how we would need to waive any of our rights to freedom and free speech Bitonthe side? We are already waiving away those rights daily by allowing these bastards to intimidate us and stop Nativity plays in our Christian schools, stop the wearing of crucifixes around the necks of our nurses, and a host of other 'forced' changes to our Western democratic way of life, and we are already allowing them to intimidate us and curb our rights to free speech because we dare not speak any truths if it is a truth about Muslims, immigrants or foreigners in general.

It is time to stop ALL immigration but especially of Muslims - be they Black, Brown, Asian or Eastern Europeans, and feck the EU - what are they going to do, slap us?

Time is NOT on our side and we have NOT got several generations. By that time we will all definitely be under Sharia law or dead.

Lebanon was a Westernised Christian democracy, and it became Islamified in less than half a generation.

When germs enter our bodies through our skin, the body's defence mechanicism kicks into action; the wound is sealed off to stop further infestation, and the little white soldiers which are our antibodies swoop on the invaders and kick the feck out of them to protect our bodies.

We should learn from nature - seal off our borders and stop letting the bastards in, thereby making it easier for our Security Services to deal with the millions already here.

We should also learn from current affairs because the atrocities in Holland, Australia and Paris weren't committed by an invading army, but by fecking IMMIGRANTS which those countries had welcomed and embraced and and allowed to live there. FFS even Jihadi John hails from the UK.

It's time now for the UK people to take to the streets, shout from the rooftops and go on strike if need be to FORCE our weak leaders to CLOSE our borders and stand up to the bastards who are already here. It's time to Stop appeasing them and start INVESTIGATING them. Sniff out the 5th columnists and sympathisers and BOOT the ***** out. Feck Brussels.

Well that's quite the escalation between posts

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

It is a shame... but instead of playing the victim, what a lot of Islamic people need to do is agree that these people give them a bad name. They need to agree that we have to do something about it. But making trends and posting things on the internet like 'not all muslims are bad!!!!!!1111' doesn't help. Anyone with a brain knows that all muslims arent bad. They need to pay respects to the victims and not complain and turn it into a sob story.

(I'm on about internet warriors... not the standard Muslim person. Every Muslim person I know IRL has mentioned how awful this is)

I totally agree

I ended up having an argument with my friend about this. As soon as i mentioned what happened in France, she started saying "but you shouldn't label them islamic extremists!!! islam is about peace so they arent exactly following islam!!!" like hello why can't people just acknowledge that these terrorists are awful, instead of spending their time defending islam when no-one even insulted islam in the first place ffs.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I totally agree

I ended up having an argument with my friend about this. As soon as i mentioned what happened in France, she started saying "but you shouldn't label them islamic extremists!!! islam is about peace so they arent exactly following islam!!!" like hello why can't people just acknowledge that these terrorists are awful, instead of spending their time defending islam when no-one even insulted islam in the first place ffs.

Glad you agree.

One of the reasons that they are getting so much stronger is because you can't even call them what they are.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Glad you agree.

One of the reasons that they are getting so much stronger is because you can't even call them what they are.

You are free to call them what they are who said you cant they are lunatics they are evil pieces of ****. they are the scum of the earth.
These type of deluded scum aren't typical of any race or religion these evil bastards are found in equal measures everywhere in the world.
They are sick individuals.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by bobnot

You are free to call them what they are who said you cant they are lunatics they are evil pieces of ****. they are the scum of the earth.
These type of deluded scum aren't typical of any race or religion these evil bastards are found in equal measures everywhere in the world.
They are sick individuals.

why didnt you mention muslim?

[billy123]

Originally Posted by the truth

why didnt you mention muslim?

For the same reason i didnt mention their shoe size or didnt mention they have fingers and toes.
Should i have done?
Ok i will. Im ****ing sick of these wankers with arms and legs murdering people shut the borders and stop letting them in hurrr durrr.

I bet they were users of the evil that is water as well grrrr.

[bots]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I don't see how we would need to waive any of our rights to freedom and free speech Bitonthe side? We are already waiving away those rights daily by allowing these bastards to intimidate us and stop Nativity plays in our Christian schools, stop the wearing of crucifixes around the necks of our nurses, and a host of other 'forced' changes to our Western democratic way of life, and we are already allowing them to intimidate us and curb our rights to free speech because we dare not speak any truths if it is a truth about Muslims, immigrants or foreigners in general.

It is time to stop ALL immigration but especially of Muslims - be they Black, Brown, Asian or Eastern Europeans, and feck the EU - what are they going to do, slap us?

Time is NOT on our side and we have NOT got several generations. By that time we will all definitely be under Sharia law or dead.

Lebanon was a Westernised Christian democracy, and it became Islamified in less than half a generation.

When germs enter our bodies through our skin, the body's defence mechanicism kicks into action; the wound is sealed off to stop further infestation, and the little white soldiers which are our antibodies swoop on the invaders and kick the feck out of them to protect our bodies.

We should learn from nature - seal off our borders and stop letting the bastards in, thereby making it easier for our Security Services to deal with the millions already here.

We should also learn from current affairs because the atrocities in Holland, Australia and Paris weren't committed by an invading army, but by fecking IMMIGRANTS which those countries had welcomed and embraced and and allowed to live there. FFS even Jihadi John hails from the UK.

It's time now for the UK people to take to the streets, shout from the rooftops and go on strike if need be to FORCE our weak leaders to CLOSE our borders and stand up to the bastards who are already here. It's time to Stop appeasing them and start INVESTIGATING them. Sniff out the 5th columnists and sympathisers and BOOT the ***** out. Feck Brussels.

With respect Kirk, your response is exactly what these terrorists want. They want to disrupt western life, feed hatred, make us react violently and harshly toward them because that ultimately feeds their cause and recruits them further support. This will take generations to resolve, because you cannot remove hatred in a generation, and by reacting to their actions negatively all we are doing is further feeding hatred on all sides. In this respect, the turn the other cheek philosophy is actually the best response because we can then maintain the society that we in the west have worked so hard to create.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

It is a shame... but instead of playing the victim, what a lot of Islamic people need to do is agree that these people give them a bad name. They need to agree that we have to do something about it. But making trends and posting things on the internet like 'not all muslims are bad!!!!!!1111' doesn't help. Anyone with a brain knows that all muslims arent bad. They need to pay respects to the victims and not complain and turn it into a sob story.

(I'm on about internet warriors... not the standard Muslim person. Every Muslim person I know IRL has mentioned how awful this is)

There actually are those type of organizations that muslims themselves started but it doesn't get much media coverage so people don't know about it.

[Ammi]

..18yr old terror suspect surrenders to the police...




The youngest of three suspects in the Paris terror attack on a French satirical magazine has surrendered to police.

Reports suggest Hamyd Mourad, 18, handed himself in to officers.

Meanwhile images have been released of brothers Said Kouachi and Cherif Kouachi, both in their 30s, who are suspected of being part of the attack that left 12 people dead.

Officials have said the suspects are linked to a Yemeni terror network.

On Wednesday night heavily armoured French police raided an apartment in the city of Reims, east of Paris, as they continued a massive manhunt to find the killers.

Thousands of officers have reportedly been deployed in the hunt for the men behind the attack on the offices of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.

It has previously been targeted over its portrayal of the Prophet Mohammed.

In Wednesday's attack, three masked gunmen stormed the offices and called out their victims by name before opening fire during a morning editorial meeting.

They were armed with Kalashnikov rifles and a rocket-propelled grenade.

They were let inside the Charlie Hebdo building by a female employee who was threatened at gunpoint along with her daughter and forced to punch in a security code to allow them inside.

The editor and a cartoonist for the newspaper, who went by the pen names Charb and Cabu, were among those killed.

Radio France chief executive Mathieu Gilet announced revealed that contributor Bernard Maris was also killed.

Two police officers were among the dead, including one assigned as Charb's bodyguard after he had received death threats and another who was shot in the head as he lay wounded on the ground outside the offices.

French President Francois Hollande has declared today a national day of mourning.

In a televised address on Wednesday he said: "We have to respond according to the crime, first of all by finding the authors of this infamy and we have to ensure that they are arrested, judged... and punished very severely.

Tens of thousands of people have staged silent protests in France and across the world in solidarity for the victims of the attack.

Social media users have used the hashtag #jesuischarlie to show solidarity for the victims of the shooting, with the Charlie Hebdo website also using the image as its masthead.



...18yrs old, barely more than a child...this is nothing to do with any religion at all, it's conditioning/brainwashing and perpetrating hate because hate has to try to give itself a cause..it has to try and justify it's murderous actions..there is no religion on this earth that trains assassins from children and closing borders etc will never stop hate from spreading it's seed, hate is not an immigration issue..nor will trying to fight it with more hate stop it either because all it does is multiply it, which is exactly what it wants/it's what it thrives on...

[Crimson Dynamo]

7 arrests overnight

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-drawings.html

these are amazing

[arista]

UK's Steve Bell

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-drawings.html

these are amazing

Yes they are.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

With respect Kirk, your response is exactly what these terrorists want. They want to disrupt western life, feed hatred, make us react violently and harshly toward them because that ultimately feeds their cause and recruits them further support. This will take generations to resolve, because you cannot remove hatred in a generation, and by reacting to their actions negatively all we are doing is further feeding hatred on all sides. In this respect, the turn the other cheek philosophy is actually the best response because we can then maintain the society that we in the west have worked so hard to create.

[arista]

The 2 Brothers still on the run


http://news.sky.com/story/1403975/pa...ers-on-the-run

[Cherie]

Question for Kirk, during the troubles, were you advocating the closure of free movement between the UK and Ireland, just curious.

[Ammi]

..it's not known yet whether there is any connection but two policemen injured in a second Paris shooting...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...un-attack.html

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

With respect Kirk, your response is exactly what these terrorists want. They want to disrupt western life, feed hatred, make us react violently and harshly toward them because that ultimately feeds their cause and recruits them further support. This will take generations to resolve, because you cannot remove hatred in a generation, and by reacting to their actions negatively all we are doing is further feeding hatred on all sides. In this respect, the turn the other cheek philosophy is actually the best response because we can then maintain the society that we in the west have worked so hard to create.

So perhaps we should do nothing, keep quiet, preserve the status quo ?

Let's carry on and pretend everything in the garden is rosy, ignore atrocity after atrocity after all it's not my workplace that has had its employees murdered in cold blood for drawing cartoons, it's not me or anyone in my family who has had their head almost decapitated on a London street.

No let's turn a blind eye to that and just sit back like sheep and let over 20 centuries of British Culture and Christianity be slowly flushed down the toilet.

Judging by some of the posts on here people are still hanging on to the deluded idea that in a generation or two we will all be friends all living in harmony.

Sorry , if you actually took time out and looked at what is happening in Europe you will see that a process of islamification is under way and that changes are happening , have been happening to change our way of life forever.

Yesterday's outrage is but one more in a long line of atrocities , it's creeping closer folks and all the brotherhood and kingship and love won't stop it.

And years from now when you are forced to get up at 4am for the call to prayer in your black tent garments with you face covered, years from now when Arabic is the UK 's official language and sharia law is in force, you will cast a wistful eye back and wonder how it all came to this and how nobody saw it happening.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

So perhaps we should do nothing, keep quiet, preserve the status quo ?

Let's carry on and pretend everything in the garden is rosy, ignore atrocity after atrocity after all it's not my workplace that has had its employees murdered in cold blood for drawing cartoons, it's not me or anyone in my family who has had their head almost decapitated on a London street.

No let's turn a blind eye to that and just sit back like sheep and let over 20 centuries of British Culture and Christianity be slowly flushed down the toilet.

Judging by some of the posts on here people are still hanging on to the deluded idea that in a generation or two we will all be friends all living in harmony.

Sorry , if you actually took time out and looked at what is happening in Europe you will see that a process of islamification is under way and that changes are happening , have been happening to change our way of life forever.

Yesterday's outrage is but one more in a long line of atrocities , it's creeping closer folks and all the brotherhood and kingship and love won't stop it.

And years from now when you are forced to get up at 4am for the call to prayer in your black tent garments with you face covered, years from now when Arabic is the UK 's official language and sharia law is in force, you will cast a wistful eye back and wonder how it all came to this and how nobody saw it happening.

I don't think anyone is advocating "doing nothing" Nedusa, but turning on your Muslim neighbour just because they happen to be Muslim is not the answer here, I do agree with you that we need to perserve our own customs and traditions and beliefs, however the deterioration in this is more to do with people turning away from Christianity, I doubt any of those people will be converting to Islam anytime soon.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

So perhaps we should do nothing, keep quiet, preserve the status quo ?

Let's carry on and pretend everything in the garden is rosy, ignore atrocity after atrocity after all it's not my workplace that has had its employees murdered in cold blood for drawing cartoons, it's not me or anyone in my family who has had their head almost decapitated on a London street.

No let's turn a blind eye to that and just sit back like sheep and let over 20 centuries of British Culture and Christianity be slowly flushed down the toilet.

Judging by some of the posts on here people are still hanging on to the deluded idea that in a generation or two we will all be friends all living in harmony.

Sorry , if you actually took time out and looked at what is happening in Europe you will see that a process of islamification is under way and that changes are happening , have been happening to change our way of life forever.

Yesterday's outrage is but one more in a long line of atrocities , it's creeping closer folks and all the brotherhood and kingship and love won't stop it.

And years from now when you are forced to get up at 4am for the call to prayer in your black tent garments with you face covered, years from now when Arabic is the UK 's official language and sharia law is in force, you will cast a wistful eye back and wonder how it all came to this and how nobody saw it happening.

I am not suggesting that we do nothing though, I am suggesting that we take appropriate action that still maintains our ideals and values. This, in my opinion, is the approach that is now being taken, and which will ultimately be successful. Will there be many further atrocities - probably, its not nice, its obscene, but its a fact that reverting to their tactics will just escalate conflicts and not lead to resolution.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't think anyone is advocating "doing nothing" Nedusa, but turning on your Muslim neighbour just because they happen to be Muslim is not the answer here, I do agree with you that we need to perserve our own customs and traditions and beliefs, however the deterioration in this is more to do with people turning away from Christianity, I doubt any of those people will be converting to Islam anytime soon.

I am not saying we should turn on our Muslim neighbours or bring back internment camps, but ALL Muslim immigrants must try and integrate into British society observe our laws,culture and traditions.

We are a Christian Country regardless of how many people go to church so all our Christian holidays should be allowed to be celebrated fully without any dumbing down to other faiths.

Our press freedoms and freedom of speech are part of our democracy and as such we have the right to poke fun or satirise ALL religious icons including Mohammed.

We have a right to smoke and drink alcohol and we have a right to wear the shortest skirts we can fit into. It is NOT against our laws.

We have a right to let our hair be shown , freely uncovered.

We ( women) have a right to an education, to have a career , drive a car go out at night unchaperoned.

And we have a right NOT to be stoned to death because someone thinks we don't have these rights.

This is just a snapshot of some of the things we have fought for over the decades with millions dying in World Wars to preserve these rights.

I for one will resist to my dying breath any attempt to take away these rights.

It does not take a genius to see that we as a Country have started to play down and dilute our holiest days like Christmas or Easter . Why are we doing this ?

Now our freedom of speech is under attack...... No British Newspaper has the balls today to publish the cartoons that caused the atrocity yesterday. No they are fearful so you could argue the terrorists are winning.

So back to our Muslim neighbours yes live here in peace, integrate and respect our laws, culture, religion etc....

If they are not happy to do that then they should crawl back under the sand dune they came from.




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