[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Ok, I suppose there isn't very much more to say on it. I understand the point you're making but I don't agree with it

Last question, so you believe transpeople exist because of stereotypes, and nothing to do with their brains? Or you just think there must be some other explanation?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Withano

Last question, so you believe transpeople exist because of stereotypes, and nothing to do with their brains? Or you just think there must be some other explanation?

No I don't think transpeople exist because of stereotypes, honestly I think it's a type of dysphoria and I have an awful lot of sympathy for anyone who is transsexual.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No I don't think transpeople exist because of stereotypes, honestly I think it's a type of dysphoria and I have an awful lot of sympathy for anyone who is transsexual.

And (sorry) that their brains tend to develop in a way more stereotypically opposite-sex-way because of their dysphoria, instead of them being born with just a brain that would have always developed that way?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Withano

And (sorry) that their brains tend to develop in a way more stereotypically opposite-sex-way because of their dysphoria, instead of them being born with just a brain that would have always developed that way?

So you agree that gender is a bunch of stereotypes now

But no I don't agree that their brain develops into a female brain or whatever, I feel that they're unhappy with themselves and want to change who they are

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So you agree that gender is a bunch of stereotypes now

But no I don't agree that their brain develops into a female brain or whatever, I feel that they're unhappy with themselves and want to change who they are

I always agreed with that, the brain differences between most males and most females has created stereotypes.

Do you remember when Courtney from Celeb Big Brother would identify his gender a '4' on a scale from 0 'entirely female' to 6 'entirely male'. Don't you think its that a transmale would probably identify their gender as a 0 or 1 which makes them unhappy and want to change?
Like I don't think any 6s who are unhappy with themselves would change their sex?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Withano

I always agreed with that, the brain differences between most males and most females has created stereotypes.

Do you remember when Courtney from Celeb Big Brother would identify his gender a '4' on a scale from 0 'entirely female' to 7 'entirely male'. Don't you think its that a transmale would probably identify their gender as a 0 or 1 which makes them unhappy and want to change?
Like I don't think any 7s who are unhappy with themselves would change their sex?

Withano we're just back to having the same argument again now though, I already told you that I don't agree with the whole "male" female" stereotype making you male or female so I can't really answer that question. I loved Courtney/Shane but I didn't agree with his opinions on everything

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Withano we're just back to having the same argument again now though, I already told you that I don't agree with the whole "male" female" stereotype making you male or female so I can't really answer that question. I loved Courtney/Shane but I didn't agree with his opinions on everything

I'm not talking about stereotypes, I'm suggesting that Courtneys brain is midway between the typical man and the typical womans brain - nothing to do with stereotypes. He is non-binary like the majority of people.
I'm asking if you think that if a male that had a brain more feminine than Courtneys would be unhappy with themselves and want to change their sex, whereas a male who had a brain more masculine than Courtneys would be unhappy with themselves but not consider a sex change.