Tibb Does The Apprentice 4. Vote Closed. Loukas wins! x

[Kate!]

Not that rude Jordan ignoring Kate yet again, that's ejection worthy imo

:grin2: I'll just post it in a minute...

(not weally)

[Jake.]

Don't worry nobody's interested in seeing that un-postable garbage anyway

[Loukas]

i've just seen this now, i will sleep on it and tomorrow i will not down my ideas, i already have a couple ;)

[Mitchell]

I had a think about the survey last night, maybe we should make a few alterations? Anyone have any suggestions?

[Mitchell]

8 people responded to that survey, a lot of people like Malta, but a lot of people also want a family holiday...

[Kate!]

Btw this is a two day task, so when I said it ended on Friday it doesn't, it ends on Thursday :pipe:

[Loukas]

what i think would be best for this task would be to find something to please everyone in our target market not just stick with just families, backpackers or 18-30's, we think of them as one group of people that we can please. I was thinking something along the lines of team building, bungee jumping, zip wires ect in a forest/jungle type area but somewhere thats like a 10 minute walk from a beach too? Maybe Australia?

[Mitchell]

Australia is one of the most popular tourist destinations though, Kate said it had to be one not as well known

[Loukas]

Australia is one of the most popular tourist destinations though, Kate said it had to be one not as well known

True, then maybe it's sister country New Zealand? :amazed:

[Loukas]

The top 6 countries for short term visits to New Zealand

Year ended Nov. 2012 || Year ended Nov. 2013
The amount of tourists in years 2012 & 2013

Australia
1,299,600 - 1,350,032

China, People's Republic of
194,752 231,120

United States
177,856 196,880

United Kingdom
191,360 190,816

Japan
69,968 75,052

Germany
62,656 68,384

New Zealand have seen a drop in british tourists in the last year..
In November 2012, readers of UK paper The Telegraph voted New Zealand the best country in the world to go to on holiday.

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_New_Zealand)

[Loukas]

Maybe Brazil? however somewhere not obvious in Brazil, like Rio. Maybe Ouro Preto? Ouro Preto has beautiful 17th century colonial architecture. Families can visit museums, the old mines, the churches ect. The 18-30YO's and backbackers can travel up to the forest which is a mile away to do outdoor activities. It's a designated World Heritage Site by UNESCO because of its outstanding Baroque architecture. Main economic activities are tourism, transformation industries, and mineral riches such as deposits of iron, bauxite, manganese, talc and marble.

Minerals of note are: gold, hematite, dolomite, tourmaline, pyrite, muscovite, topaz and imperial topaz. The imperial topaz is a stone only found in Ouro Preto.

http://brazil2world.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/ouro-preto-11.jpg

Theres alot to work with with this place..
what do guys think?

[Jake.]

I like it Loukas, though I doubt that this current young-generation would be attracted to it as much.. if we aren't looking to sell to them then that's fine

[Loukas]

I like it Loukas, though I doubt that this current young-generation would be attracted to it as much.. if we aren't looking to sell to them then that's fine

yeah i can see what you mean Jake, they do also have carnivals in the summer, we can also play on that. It's only a suggestion but we should really have a location by this evening

[Jake.]

yeah i can see what you mean Jake, they do also have carnivals in the summer, we can also play on that. It's only a suggestion but we should really have a location by this evening

yeah agreed :) then choosing things for all of us to do would be a good idea

[Loukas]

we could create wood cabins for people to stay in in the near by forest? That would appeal more to the younger audience?

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/35725749.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ChHynB77vPM/UDGCX3eJ33I/AAAAAAAAsgs/gyoXOzTi5jk/s400/2.jpg

http://www.jornalismo.ufop.br/historiadamidia/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/itacolomi.jpg

[Jake.]

yes! and maybe some beer tents or somthing

[Loukas]

yes! and maybe some beer tents or somthing

yeah! Totally, we could also set up loads of outdoor activities.

Assault course
Tunnelling
Archery
Rafting
Lake Crossing challenge - A team task involving some rope, poles and a lake
canoeing
Zip wire
Climbing & abseiling
Bungee jumping
ect..

[Jake.]

Ah I love it

[Loukas]

Ah I love it

thanks, anything else to make it more appealing for the youth?

i think the location for this place is perfect for appealing to families, backpackers and the younger generation!

http://i61.tinypic.com/2wco39z.png

[Jake.]

You could have things like tug of war competitions at a certain of the day

[Loukas]

:amazed:
yeah!!
Let wait and see what Jordan and Poth think of this idea

[Ammi]

..will we get to meet Chuck as well..?..:amazed:..

[Mitchell]

You do know we're only promoting a place rather than building log cabins?

[Kate!]

..will we get to meet Chuck as well..?..:amazed:..

:D

[Jake.]

You do know we're only promoting a place rather than building log cabins?

and the place we're promoting could have log cabins built in them, I doubt it's matter?

[Mitchell]

and the place we're promoting could have log cabins built in them, I doubt it's matter?

Yeah but then we are building a whole activity centre and accommodation, our task is to promot a current place and use existing things?

[Jake.]

true, i'm not fussed really we were just throwing ideas about

[Mitchell]

I know and that's fine, if anything I encourage that, but I'm just saying

[Loukas]

true, i'm not fussed really we were just throwing ideas about

Yeah that's all it was, it was only an idea. What/where and what do you suggest then??

[Loukas]

Yeah but then we are building a whole activity centre and accommodation, our task is to promot a current place and use existing things?

Where does it say that we can't create an activity centre? It suitable to host those activities in the area so why not, plus i mentioned loads of other things that are available to do in the area too! We are meant to boost the tourism, an activity centre could do that?

[Jake.]

What about East Timor? It only has 40,000 tourists, its scenery, hiking and scuba diving activities could be advertised to many fanatics

[Loukas]

I like it but i don't love the idea of having it there. So far i'm still rooting for Brazil, but i'll see what the others have to say.

[Mitchell]

Where does it say that we can't create an activity centre? It suitable to host those activities in the area so why not, plus i mentioned loads of other things that are available to do in the area too! We are meant to boost the tourism, an activity centre could do that?

We're told to promote a certain place that currently exists, with that I assume it means this is a promoting task, not a design task.

[Kate!]

We're told to promote a certain place that currently exists, with that I assume it means this is a promoting task, not a design task.

You may ask Ben to clarify this if you guys wish.

[Jake.]

I like it but i don't love the idea of having it there. So far i'm still rooting for Brazil, but i'll see what the others have to say.

Yeah but Brazil's a popular destination is it not? We need to target somewhere with a low tourist ratio

[Loukas]

We're told to promote a certain place that currently exists, with that I assume it means this is a promoting task, not a design task.

so this place doesn't exist? :conf:

http://i61.tinypic.com/2wco39z.png

I don't understand what you are trying to say? What exactly have i designed? I'm so baffed lol.

The idea was to promote the area by saying it has an activity centre for the younger audience, thats all.

There are 4 museums, numerous churches, many famous for their religious art and baroque architecture, A number of former gold mines in the city also offer tours to tourists.

and like i said before Pothuthic, what/where do you suggest??

[Loukas]

Yeah but Brazil's a popular destination is it not? We need to target somewhere with a low tourist ratio

Brazil it's self is massive, it's the 5th largest country in the world. This is a tiny, tiny part of it that could do with a boost of tourism.

[Jake.]

Well it's up to you guys but we need a decision really

[Kate!]

- observes -

[Loukas]

Well it's up to you guys but we need a decision really

i completely agree, doesn't it need to be a group decision though?

[Jake.]

Yes of course lol

[Loukas]

so where's Jordan and Pothuthic, have either of them even suggested anywhere? :idc:

[Loukas]

-begins to design and build log cabin-

:laugh2:

[Jordan.]

Yeah I'm pretty much taking myself out of this since I'm gonna be busy for the rest of the night and working tomorrow, good luck in the final you 3.

[Cherie]

People firing themselves left, right and centre, maybe this is a concept that could be taken on by Lord Sugar in the Telly version :laugh2:

[Loukas]

People firing themselves left, right and centre, maybe this is a concept that could be taken on by Lord Sugar in the Telly version :laugh2:

:laugh: :laugh:

[Kate!]

How many of you are online?

[Loukas]

i'm here, but i wont be for that long.

[Kate!]

Yeah I'm pretty much taking myself out of this since I'm gonna be busy for the rest of the night and working tomorrow, good luck in the final you 3.

Are you seriously kidding?

[Jake.]

Jordan D:

[Kate!]

Might as well not bother doing the task guys as you're all in the final then by default.

Marvellous.

[Loukas]

Might as well not bother doing the task guys as you're all in the final then by default.

Marvellous.

is this decision final?

[Kate!]

Candidates please continue with the task. There will be a two candidate final instead of three.

[Loukas]

Candidates please continue with the task. There will be a two candidate final instead of three.

:thumbs:

[Jake.]

right

[Mitchell]

so where's Jordan and Pothuthic, have either of them even suggested anywhere? :idc:

I'm sorry, I have been extremely busy today and had to go and deal with something to do with my personal life.

I suggested Malta, Serbia etc as they seem to be lesser known countries, don't People from Malta speak English?

[Jake.]

okay can we just go with the place Loukas wanted, I'm all up for debating but we really don't have the time and we need quick and snappy decisions

[Loukas]

I'm sorry, I have been extremely busy today and had to go and deal with something to do with my personal life.

I suggested Malta, Serbia etc as they seem to be lesser known countries, don't People from Malta speak English?

It's fine, don't worry about it.

Can we decide what we are gonna do before the end of the hour please

Poth do you have any other suggestions?

[Benjamin]

Holiday Hotspot

Needless to say a lot of the time the team work has been underwhelming, and teamwork is a big factor in the success of a business.

For this next project you will ALL be working together to create a promotional pitch for a holiday destination. The destination must be a real place, but one that comes from a lesser known country; your job is trying to boost their tourism trade.

How you promote this is up to you; you can look at creating an advert, poster, statistics of the country, things it offers, flight, hotels, activity costs etc. You need to make this destination seem like the next best thing to go to for holiday. You should also think about your market; are you aiming for families, backpackers, 18-30's and what is has to offer for them. Research of things may help you with this and focus on USP's will help.

At the end one of you will pitch your piece to us and then will be questioned about it (only that person can respond so choose wisely and make sure they are well briefed).

This close in communication should be a lot smoother and you should all be wanting to show-case your strengths, let's see how well it works...

[Mitchell]

I am really not keen on this whole 'make up an activity centre' etc, I'd rather do a presentation with pictures of a real place (I know Brazil is real, but you get my point), a real hotel in that place, real activities that already exist?

And surely Brazil isnt really a not known country?

[Jake.]

http://www.garfors.com/2013/01/the-25-least-visited-countries-in-world.html

[Loukas]

I am really not keen on this whole 'make up an activity centre' etc, I'd rather do a presentation with pictures of a real place (I know Brazil is real, but you get my point), a real hotel in that place, real activities that already exist?

And surely Brazil isnt really a not known country?

right ok fine
Brazil is a well know country but it's a HUGE country and i wanted to boost that towns tourism. Ben put lesser in bold so im assuming he's trying to hint at something lol

Maybe somewhere like

Gdansk in Poland?
Gdańsk is a Polish city on the Baltic coast, the capital of the Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland's principal seaport and the centre of the country's fourth-largest metropolitan area.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/0b/19/3b/gdansk-at-night.jpg

Families - Parks, A zoo, boat trips
Backpackers - Słowiński National Park with movable dunes and Bory Tucholskie National Park, nine landscape parks and a few dozens of nature reserves
The Youth - a bustling nightlife/cheap drinks ect

??

[Mitchell]

10. Afghanistan: 17,500 tourists (2012, New York Times)

This is actually me in Herat. Photo by Marius Arnesen.
Why so few?
There's a war. Taliban is in it.

Why you may still want to visit
The mountains of Afghanistan are wild and beautiful. They are also hiding places for bandits and terrorists, so you may want to wait until it becomes a little more peaceful.

What else
You'll have a unique chance to try on a traditional blue burqa. I did for two minutes. Poor women! Do also remember to get your visa to the country you will return to in advance. Getting it inside Afghanistan may not be the easiest of tasks. Saying that you are in the country as a tourist will make you appear a liar, so do have a cover story *or be prepared to be declared less than smart.

Hmm this list is interesting for sure.

[Mitchell]

right ok fine
Brazil is a well know country but it's a HUGE country and i wanted to boost that towns tourism. Ben put lesser in bold so im assuming he's trying to hint at something lol

Maybe somewhere like

Gdansk in Poland?
Gdańsk is a Polish city on the Baltic coast, the capital of the Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland's principal seaport and the centre of the country's fourth-largest metropolitan area.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/0b/19/3b/gdansk-at-night.jpg

Families - Parks, A zoo, boat trips
Backpackers - Słowiński National Park with movable dunes and Bory Tucholskie National Park, nine landscape parks and a few dozens of nature reserves
The Youth - a bustling nightlife/cheap drinks ect

??

That city looks really beautiful, I like that it has the family element and elements for others, serves everyone pretty much

[Jake.]

that does look like a really nice city

[Jake.]

and the cheap drinks are appealing heh

[Mitchell]

Way hey get us a vodka ;)

Just researching on adventure in gdansk

[Loukas]

Quito, Ecuador

http://images.essentialtravel.co.uk/et-magazine/hot-right-now/quito-ecuador.jpg

You may know Peru's Machu Picchu very well, after all it's been a popular tourist destination for many years. But Quito, the capital city of Ecuador, was also founded on the ruins of an Inca city in the 16th Century.

Families - Museums and local tours
Backpackers - Mountain biking, rafting or exploring the Amazon forest
Youth - water sports

[Loukas]

what do you wanna go for guys? Any more suggestions?

[Mitchell]

Gdansk has kayaking and a sky diving school

[Loukas]

Gdansk it is then? are we agreed?

[Mitchell]

Warkow in gdansk maybe? They have bungee jumping and white river rafting

[Jake.]

I'm fine with that

[Loukas]

Warkow in gdansk maybe? They have bungee jumping and white river rafting

How about we sell Gdansk as a whole. Cause it really does have a lot of things to do?

[Mitchell]

Gdansk it is then? are we agreed?

I'm loving the idea of it.

First we need to find flight prices, hotel prices, transfers etc

After that how about me and jake work on the presentation and Loukas you try and get some graphics made? Maybe a 4 page brochure just with a front cover, page for adventure, page for family and page for clubbing? I can help you with this too?

[Loukas]

i can't design right away cause i need my friends computer to use photoshop and stuff. I can ask her if i can come over in a bit to do it, until then im gonna help with the research. Is that ok with you both?

[Mitchell]

Oh thats fine Loukas :)

I've managed to get this quote from easyjet;


WyspianskiTotal holiday price per person from****£249.44IncludesAdmin feeExcludesBaggage & Transfers Best Seller

Krakow | Krakow City


Our rating:
(3 Star)
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The Wyspianski is a comfortable city hotel that enjoys s a convenient location close to the town centre. The surrounding area is filled with inviting bars, nightclubs and countless shopping venues. Ma

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I will look for others, Loukas can you look for prices of adventures?

Jake can you look at like family stuff, resturants, local life?

[Loukas]

Oh thats fine Loukas :)

I will look for others, Loukas can you look for prices of adventures?



Adventures being what exactly? sky diving ect?

[Mitchell]

Just checked a few other websites, them dates etc aren't showing up?

[Mitchell]

Adventures being what exactly? sky diving ect?

Yep the sky diving school, river rafting, bungee jump etc

[Mitchell]

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/pothuthic2/9c2fe2e28bccaa57b095c77d977610b7.jpg

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh569/pothuthic2/63355d69114ca8729990a9a3cf8eaa9f.jpg

[Mitchell]

I have to head off now, but I will be on tomorrow to start writing the presentation with y'all?

[Loukas]

skydiving infomation

SkyDive-Club 3miasto

http://i60.tinypic.com/34ngth5.png

[Loukas]

Night Life (basic info)

http://i61.tinypic.com/eheiw7.png

[Jake.]

Top Five Resturants (according to a site comparer) -

http://i.imgur.com/kE5snuj.png

http://i.imgur.com/OEI0Wmm.png

http://i.imgur.com/eEjYLTE.png

http://i.imgur.com/HdRTjg9.png

http://i.imgur.com/1hz9SQt.png

Gdansk Night Life -

http://i.imgur.com/BHAonvR.png

http://i.imgur.com/U5RM7Ur.png

Night life within the town:

http://i.imgur.com/gfslsjt.png

Nightlife within Sotpot, a nearby popular town for party goers

http://i.imgur.com/yP3FHKz.png

[Loukas]

Gdansk History Museum
http://i58.tinypic.com/25ixg7l.png

[Jake.]

Sorry loukas, didn't mean to post the same thing as you lol

[Loukas]

Sorry loukas, didn't mean to post the same thing as you lol

It's fine, lets keep working.. im going to my friends house in a sec to use photoshop! :)

[Jake.]

Sopot could really be used to our advantage here imo

[Loukas]

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/5a/f2/41/dlugi-targ.jpg

Długi Targ (Long Market) was once the main city market and is now the major focus for visitors. Sadly it’s all got a bit tacky in recent years and is now hemmed with tourist-class eateries, dubious amber stalls, quick-tongued touts and sun-shades keeping overpriced beer and their drinkers out of the sun.

According to local legend, the Neptune Fountain (Fontana Neptuna), next to the Town Hall, once gushed forth with the trademark Gdańsk liqueur, Goldwasser. As the story goes, it spurted out of the trident one merry night and Neptune found himself endangered by crowds of drunken locals who couldn’t believe their luck. Perhaps that’s why, in 1634, the fountain was fenced off with a wrought-iron barrier. The bronze statue itself was the work of another Flemish artist, Peter Husen; made between 1606 and 1613, it is the oldest secular monument in Poland. A menagerie of stone sea creatures was added in the 1750s during the restoration of the fountain.

[Loukas]

Brovarnia

http://www.smaki-piwa.pl/wp-content/gallery/gdaanglia/imgp4230.jpg

Northern Poland’s best microbrewery cooks up award-winning dark, wheat and lager beers in polished copper vats amid sepia photos of old Gdańsk. Tables are tightly packed but this place lacks a beer-hall feel, possibly as it’s squeezed into vacant granary space in the posh Hotel Gdańsk.

[Jake.]

http://i.imgur.com/5e1pegY.png

'Golden Gate (Polish: Złota Brama) in Gdańsk (Danzig), Poland, German Langgasser Tor, is one of the most notable tourist attractions of the city.
It was raised in 1612–14 in place of the 13th century gothic gate (Brama Długouliczna). It is located at one end of Long Lane (Długa street, German: Langgasse), where, together with Brama Wyżynna and Wieża Więzienna, it forms a part of the old city fortifications.
It was designed by architect Abraham van den Blocke and was constructed by Jan Strakowski. The architectural style of the gate is Dutch manierism. Next to it is the late-gothic building of the Brotherhood of St.George.
Both sides of the gate have attiques, with figures symbolising citizen's qualities. They were designed in 1648 by Jeremias Falck ("Polonus"), and reconstructed in 1878 due to the originals being damaged by time and climate.
From the West side they represent: Pax (Peace), Libertas (Freedom), Fortuna (Wealth) and Fama (Fame). From the East side (Long Lane) they are Concordia (Agreement), Iustitia (Justice), Pietas (Piety) and Prudentia (Prudency). The Latin inscription on the gates reads: Concordia res publicæ parvæ crescunt - discordia magnæ concidunt, which means "In agreement small republics grow, because of disagreement great [republics]fall".
Destroyed in World War II, it was rebuilt in 1957. The original German inscription has recently been restored: Es müsse wohl gehen denen, die dich lieben. Es müsse Friede sein inwendig in deinen Mauern und Glück in deinen Palästen (Psalm 122)'

[Loukas]

do you think a brochure is the best way of advertising it?

[Jake.]

yeah, deffo

[Loukas]

cool :)
a brochure comes in either 6 parts or a 8 parts. How do you want information placed on it? :) you guys could create something too :) or i could create something else too cause i feel like we have far too much information on this place for a brochure :laugh:

[Kate!]

Taking shape now :thumbs:

[Jake.]

What would you want me to create Loukas? Obviously we don't want to create the same information lol

[Jake.]

And whatever it is I can try and do tomorrow after college :)

[Loukas]

an advert in some shape or form? That could be used in magazines or something? be creative with it, it could be very basic cause it's a beautiful place it sells itself :love:

Education comes first :laugh: but yeah after college would be cool man :)

[Jake.]

What as in a general advert covering the whole thing yeah? :)

[Loukas]

Taking shape now :thumbs:

With loosing a member so suddenly could we have until Friday please Kate :whistle: :tongue:

[Loukas]

What as in a general advert covering the whole thing yeah? :)

yeah i guess, whatever you want really :laugh: i would say something general though yeah :)

[Kate!]

With loosing a member so suddenly could we have until Friday please Kate :whistle: :tongue:

You are really cheeky :p

Jake....... What are your shifts like today (Thursday) and Friday?

[Loukas]

ahhh the computer crashed and i lost the work i did :(

oh wait i've recovered it :)

[Kate!]

ahhh the computer crashed and i lost the work i did :(

D:

oh wait i've recovered it :)

:flutter:

[Loukas]

please extend it till friday cause this is harder than i thought it would be tbh lol :/

[Jake.]

You are really cheeky :p

Jake....... What are your shifts like today (Thursday) and Friday?

I'm at college both days till half 4

[Mitchell]

You are really cheeky :p

Jake....... What are your shifts like today (Thursday) and Friday?

I might be out most of the day if it helps our case

[Kate!]

Ok guys Friday at 8pm then

[Mitchell]

Kate I love you.

[Vanessa]

Good luck everyone! I love what you've done so far. :flutter:

[Mitchell]

Good luck everyone! I love what you've done so far. :flutter:
We miss you Vanessa :xyxwave:

[Loukas]

Kate you angel :angel:

[Kate!]

Kate you angel :angel:

:hugesmile: - polishes halo -

[Jake.]

About to upload the advert I attempted (did this instead of college work heh)

[Jake.]

okay so I done it as a word doc and now idk how to get it on here

[Kate!]

Hang on I'll see who's online who could help Jake.

[Jake.]

ta Kate

[Kate!]

Nathan suggested you could screen shot it, upload to to imgur?

[Jake.]

I dunno if you'll be able to see the writing though haha

[Jake.]

http://i.imgur.com/r4htIcB.png?1

[Jake.]

Yeah I need to increase the bloody size

[Kate!]

Loukas might be able to help?

[Jake.]

He's offline but I'm sure he'll take a look when he gets on :)

[Kate!]

It looks good :) I'll read it properly later when it's resized.

[Loukas]

i dont know how to resize it but keep that quality

It's really good though Jake! :)

[Jake.]

pretty gutted, you can't even see it lol :(

[Loukas]

I'm currently at home, i've saved the work i've done on my friends computer, i should have sent it to my email. I'm going over to hers later to keep working on later :)

[Loukas]

pretty gutted, you can't even see it lol :(

we can still use it though, you can just type the information that you put on that advert on here and colour code it. It still shows you've done work for this task! :)

[Jake.]

yeah true :)

[Kate!]

Yes and I'm still working on getting someone to resize it. I'll ask Glenn if he knows how?

- waits for Shaun to kick my ass for helping -

D:

[Mitchell]

Heya guys, I must admit I won't be the most active person tonight due to various reasons, anything I can do for the time being?

[Mitchell]

What needs doing?

[Loukas]

sorry i've just seen this, have you got the presentation lined up, i should be finished with the brochure tomorrow afternoon at the latest, going to put the finish touches on it tomorrow

[Kate!]

8pm deadline chaps. One of you should be online prompt and l ready to pitch to Ben and answer his questions.

[Mitchell]

I'll do the presentation and Q&A?

[Kate!]

I'll do the presentation and Q&A?

When the pitch is finished could one of you please submit it by pm to Ben, myself, Shaun and Josy. Anytime right up to deadline (8) is ok, bit earlier if you can though please :)

[Kate!]

Currently writing my feedback and thoughts on which two of you should make the final :pipe:

It's a tough decision, I've more or less decided, and then there's all the other judges opinions to be taken into consideration as well :whistle:

Nervous?

:devil:

[Mitchell]

I'm not 'giving up' by any standards, in fact I am staying and fighting, but I'm not going to kid myself, it's obvious who is the final 2 and I'm extremely happy for them as they really do deserve it.

My aim is to leave on a high ;)

[Kate!]

Tibb Apprentice 4: Statistics


Main Thread Post Count (As of 4pm today)

Jake 202
Pothuthic 180
Loukas 153

Star Performer wins

Jake 1
Pothuthic 1
Loukas 2

Post Count for Semi Final Task (as of 4pm today)

Loukas 46
Jake 45
Pothuthic 31

Betting Odds to follow...,

[Jake.]

sorry all, just got home

[Kate!]

Finalists revealed and Question Time tonight.

[Kate!]

Betting odds from AndyBet

To win

Jake 1/200
Loukas 50/1
Pothuthic 80/1

[Mitchell]

I'm working on it as we speak

[Jake.]

hold on Poth, about to upload the advertisement again along with the what's written on the advertisement so that people can read it

[Jake.]

http://i.imgur.com/r4htIcB.png?1

The Nightlife: There was a time when Gdansk's nightlife seemed a tad limited but things have changed. Whilst Sopot is recognised as the tri-city's party town, there are more than enough great bars and the odd club which will keep you in check.

The Scenery: Although many expect Gdansk to be covered in snow in freezing conditions, Gdansk provides warm sun-sets, lovely beach walks and beautiful buildings to give the scenery fanatics what they desire most!

The Culture: Gdansk's culture is wrapped up in its religion and history, and its numerous museums, monuments and sacred buildings attest to the senses of both itself and the divine.

St Mary's Street is a beautiful walk of historical houses with decorative facades, all of which culminate aesthetically in the world-renown St Mary's Church. The largest brick church in the world, St Mary's is a beautiful center of Medieval and Baroque art and architecture which dates its construction back to a late fifteenth-century completion.

Unfortunately the information regarding the Old City Hall must have been deleted from the word document by mistake, and I'm not able to fully read the information from the uploaded image, which I do apologise for.. I can't seem to recover it..

[Mitchell]

I've pmd you what I have, once Loukas' stuff is added to it, it will be perfect.

Did we get all the information about the adventure? If so could someone get it for me so I can add it as my iPad is being as slow as anything -_-

[Mitchell]

I really need it...

[Loukas]

I'm sorry i'm still working on it i lost the back somehow, i don't know what happened?! I'm going to have to present only the front :(

[Jake.]

Doesn't matter Loukas, you tried your best :)

[Jake.]

I've pmd you what I have, once Loukas' stuff is added to it, it will be perfect.

Did we get all the information about the adventure? If so could someone get it for me so I can add it as my iPad is being as slow as anything -_-

I don't know what you mean lol..

[Ammi]

..good luck guys...

[Jordan.]

I'm here to see Jake fall at the final hurdle

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[Vanessa]

Good luck everyone! :)

[Kate!]

Waiting for this pm ..... Needs to be sent by 8 to judges including Ben. Tick tock 15 minutes.....

[Mitchell]

Dont worry I'll add something quick Jake :)


Loukas, can you send me it quick? Or are you presenting it separately?

[Jake.]

I'm here to see Jake fall at the final hurdle

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go back to stacking those chicken kievs in the freezer at Icelands

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[Kate!]

Dont worry I'll add something quick Jake :)


Loukas, can you send me it quick? Or are you presenting it separately?

This should all have been done :p there's no separate presentations - as per Ben's task description only one of you can pitch and answer questions.

[Jordan.]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7u3ryBO5M1qh01r8o1_400.gif

[Mitchell]

This should all have been done :p there's no separate presentations - as per Ben's task description only one of you can pitch and answer questions.

I'm sorry, ive been awfully busy with my sisters birthday yesterday and my brothers birthday today.

Yeah I guessed that, but I'm still waiting on Loukas' stuff, I have Jakes

[Kate!]

?????

Ben's gonna kick your arses

Lol

:love: love you all haha!

[Mitchell]

I have all mine done Kate, I just don't have Loukas'

[Benjamin]

I hope the person pitching this is ready

[Mitchell]

I'm ready to pitch Benjamin ;)

[Jake.]

me searching for Loukas's lost entry

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[Benjamin]

You have 5 minutes. I expect it to be with me by then and no later.

[Mitchell]

I'll just have to send it without.

[Kate!]

Why have you left it to the last minute, that's to Poth and Loukas btw. Communication?

[Jake.]

how can you send it without one of the main pieces of work lol

[Benjamin]

Right I have the pitch.


Poth I am right in assuming you are pitching this to myself?

[Mitchell]

Why have you left it to the last minute, that's to Poth and Loukas btw. Communication?

1. I've been busy all day as you can probably expect with organising things for the party that's currently going on in my house that I am currently looking like an antisocial bastard since I'm not with them :p

2. I did ask Loukas for it a while ago but it wasn't sent

[Benjamin]

how can you send it without one of the main pieces of work lol

Because you had until 8pm to get it to me.

[Jake.]

Because you had until 8pm to get it to me.

I'm not questioning you or your time limit, believe me.

[Mitchell]

Right I have the pitch.


Poth I am right in assuming you are pitching this to myself?

Yes I am pitching it to you (and obviously the panel of judges), but I do feel that my presentation is adaptable to present to other people

[Benjamin]

Poth, firstly who was responsible for choosing this location and what was the logic behind it?

[Kate!]

Smh.

We knew nothing about any problems, could have mentioned it in here you fiends lol. :p

[Mitchell]

Poth, firstly who was responsible for choosing this location and what was the logic behind it?

Well we all suggested multiple places, but for us the idea of Gdansk was too good to miss out on.

We chose it as we felt it looked so beautiful which I am sure you can appreciate, we also felt it had everything that we aimed for, so for us if was perfect! This was validated to me by the taxi driver yesterday

[Loukas]

It's all done and i sent it to Poth, my apologies Ben it's only half of a brochure as the the other file *******ed up. It's been a stressful couple of hours!

[Mitchell]

how can you send it without one of the main pieces of work lol

Well I think it's better than nothing?

[Benjamin]

It was everything you hoped for Poth, so explain to me who your target market was for this and what its USP's are?

[Loukas]

did you submit it without my brochure cause i worked my ass off :suspect:

[Benjamin]

You can post the bits in here (Poth) as you are pitching this to me and can use them as reference (and only Poth)

[Mitchell]

It was everything you hoped for Poth, so explain to me who your target market was for this and what its USP's are?

I don't think we had a precise target audience in mind after choosing Gdansk because it is so perfect for everybody in the family, but before it we were going for the adventure aspect, but when we found Gdansk it was obvious that a whole family could go and all enjoy something.

I think the above sums it up, it is unique as its perfect for everyone, you will struggle to find anywhere at this price with enough to do for every single member of a mixed family (even if you added grandads, grandma's etc they'd all have something to do too!)

[Kate!]

Ben : I received the presentation from Poth with seconds to deadline but without Loukas stuff attached. I received Loukad contribution from him personally 5 minutes late with apologies.

[Loukas]

Ben : I received the presentation from Poth with seconds to deadline but without Loukas stuff attached. I received Loukad contribution from him personally 5 minutes late with apologies.

major apologies :love:

[Benjamin]

I did ask to think about a target audience, I'm curious as to why you focused on "everyone" when you could have focused on one particular market. No place is perfect for everyone.

You also mention it is perfect for everyone but still haven;t told me what exactly are its unique selling points (USP's) that stands it out from other holiday destinations in Europe that are possibly cheaper?

[Mitchell]

For reference here is Loukas' brochure that he created which explains everything Gdansk has to offer!

http://i61.tinypic.com/xnud8k.jpg

[Mitchell]

I did ask to think about a target audience, I'm curious as to why you focused on "everyone" when you could have focused on one particular market. No place is perfect for everyone.

You also mention it is perfect for everyone but still haven;t told me what exactly are its unique selling points (USP's) that stands it out from other holiday destinations in Europe that are possibly cheaper?

Because as much as one target audience is always nice to have, if it fits on even more people, it's better IMO, but I do get your point, maybe we could have worked on that better, but I do think we made a good case for it.

The scenery is absolutely beautiful, the old town hall is stunning and the sky diving school is out of this world from what I saw on their website, even I'd like to try it!

[Mitchell]

Can I also add I don't like going abroad for holidays unless it's somewhere like Disney, any other holidays don't appeal to me, but I've even seriously considered going to Gdansk! My family would tell you me choosing a place that isn't a Disney property is a miracle! I spent ,y whole week in Mallorca in my hotel room on my iPad.

[Benjamin]

I don't care much for your own person preferences, that was not the aim of this task.


Tell me more about the location. I see you have flights listed and a price. Is this a generic price, what are the flight times like, and what say I wanted to travel from Bristol, Manchester or Edinburgh to this destination? Do you not feel you have isolated your target market to just London and surrounding areas?

[Mitchell]

I know it wasn't, but if I can fall in love with this place, literally anyone can!

This is the cheapest I could find as I know price matters a lot to customers too, I don't feel like we isolated, we just gave an estimate on what the price was like, you could also say "Do you feel like you isolated people who don't want to go on holiday in July" but it was just an estimate to tell people approximately how much it costs rather than how much it will cost for them.

[Pete.]

here for car crash entertainment

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[Jordan.]

here for car crash entertainment

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lmao

[Pete.]

here for quality entertainment

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[Shaun]

*received no PMs wut*

[Benjamin]

So say three of us wanted to travel in February from Manchester, what would be the best option for us?

[Pete.]

kate changed her name :sad:

[Mitchell]

So say three of us wanted to travel in February from Manchester, what would be the best option for us?

EasyJets website will have all the information for your individual dates and needs as I do not have the information with me right now.

[Benjamin]

Hmm, I see.

Going back to the attractions. You really feel an Amber museum, a skydive place and paint balling is a big enough selling point to lure people here? Do you not see these to be naff attractions to try catch people's attention to come here especially when people can do paintballing in the comfort of their own hometown without having to buy a flight and travel to do so?

[Kate!]

I received pms. lol. Even with the name change. It's not on that Shaun didn't get them. It was asked of the candidates to submit to all judges.

[Benjamin]

They sent it to Shaun, but Shaun with a fullstop in his name. :tongue:

[Mitchell]

Hmm, I see.

Going back to the attractions. You really feel an Amber museum, a skydive place and paint balling is a big enough selling point to lure people here? Do you not see these to be naff attractions to try catch people's attention to come here especially when people can do paintballing in the comfort of their own hometown without having to buy a flight and travel to do so?

Obviously I cannot speak for Loukas as he designed the brochure and I'm sure there was more information on the bits that were sadly lost.

If you can find a home town with the same beauty of Gdansk that has all 3 of those activities plus all the others I named, I will accept that point, odds are nowhere in Britain is as beautiful as Gdansk for a start

[Mitchell]

They sent it to Shaun, but Shaun with a fullstop in his name. :tongue:

I will get my coat.

[Benjamin]

I beg to differ that point.


Focusing on the team. Do you feel you worked well together for this and got the best result you could?

[Shaun]

what kinda cheap ass bitch has a full-stop in their name

[Mitchell]

I beg to differ that point.


Focusing on the team. Do you feel you worked well together for this and got the best result you could?

I don't think we did the best we could as Loukas' work was lost and I'm sure that would've made it brilliant, but I seriously don't have one bad thing to say about either of my fellow candidates on this task.

[Benjamin]

Who would you put as your weakest contributor to this task?

[Kate!]

what kinda cheap ass bitch has a full-stop in their name

Awks

:laugh:

[Mitchell]

Who would you put as your weakest contributor to this task?

Jordan for obvious reasons.

[Benjamin]

Jordan quit.

Which of you three was the weakest?

[Kate!]

Jordan's not in this task?

[Pete.]

what kinda cheap ass bitch has a full-stop in their name
*cough* Jordan...


what?

[Mitchell]

Jordan quit.

Which of you three was the weakest?

Yes but he was still part of this task.

I will not be answering that question as I have gone through this whole competition with integrity, I have always kept it a fair game and i don't think it would be fair to name a weak link other than Jordan.

[Benjamin]

Okay well you best step up your game and fight as all three of you have 10 minutes before I question you all as to why I should put you through to the final.

I will be touching more on this project and your team, you three best brace yourselves.

See you in ten.

[Kate!]

:hugesmile:

[Mitchell]

Okay well you best step up your game and fight as all three of you have 10 minutes before I question you all as to why I should put you through to the final.

I will be touching more on this project and your team, you three best brace yourselves.

See you in ten.

I will be fighting don't you worry ;)

[Mitchell]

Jake and Loukas, good luck :)

[Vanessa]

Good luck Jake, Loukas and Mitch. :love:

[Jordan.]

Jordan for obvious reasons.

I'm walking away from all the lies you made me believe

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[Loukas]

Good luck guys! :)

[Mitchell]

I'm walking away from all the lies you made me believe

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K babe, go look at the me task you room part in xoxoxoxoxoxoxo

I kid ;) or do I ;)

[Loukas]

Our ten minutes are up now?

Ben, i'm ready for your question!

[Pete.]

good luck y'all

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[Jordan.]

K babe, go look at the me task you room part in xoxoxoxoxoxoxo

I kid ;) or do I ;)

this makes no sense to me

[Mitchell]

good luck y'all

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Such a flawless bitch

[Benjamin]

All of you what do you feel your strengths were in this project?

[Pete.]

Such a flawless bitch
sure

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[Mitchell]

All of you what do you feel your strengths were in this project?

I felt I wrote a good pitch, I felt that I took on a bit of a leader role when I was present (other things stopped me from not being here at points) and I felt that I did well in the Q&A

[Loukas]

I suggested a large percentage of the locations before we all agreed on Gdańsk. I also spent a long time working on 2 sides of the brochure, sadly the file corrupted on one of them and i lost it. The other side included restaurants and bars that vary in prices to suit everyone, direction's to the local beach and a map pinpointing all places mentioned on the brochure. I think this is a strong point because i worked really, really hard.

[Benjamin]

And who do you feel deserves to be fired based on the merits of this task?

[Jake.]

All of you what do you feel your strengths were in this project?

I said at the beginning that we needed a certain target market, and I compiled the advertisement which I felt captured what point we were trying to get across.

[Jake.]

And who do you feel deserves to be fired based on the merits of this task?

Poth, only because of the level of effort loukas put into the task from a design point of view.. fair play to Poth for doing his best with the pitch though

[Mitchell]

And who do you feel deserves to be fired based on the merits of this task?

Well I don't think I should be fired and I honestly see a fantastic candidate in Loukas which showed during this task

So due to process of elimination it'd have to be Jake.

But I feel we all have done a great job

[Kate!]

- goes for a wee -

[Loukas]

And who do you feel deserves to be fired based on the merits of this task?

This is a hard one but sadly i would have to go for Poth only because i feel like his pitch was good but could have stronger, when you mentioned flights i thought his answer would have been stronger as he posted flight information earlier in the thread.

[Benjamin]

Based on the fact the focus of this was not a design task, do you not feel your efforts could have been better spent focusing more on trying to gather as much information or research as you could to make a stronger case for your final piece? Poth you yourself started market research, why did this not come through?

[Jake.]

Based on the fact the focus of this was not a design task, do you not feel your efforts could have been better spent focusing more on trying to gather as much information or research as you could to make a stronger case for your final piece? Poth you yourself started market research, why did this not come through?

I do agree, what with people being busy the results weren't produced to a high enough standard and the research suffered because of this

[Mitchell]

Based on the fact the focus of this was not a design task, do you not feel your efforts could have been better spent focusing more on trying to gather as much information or research as you could to make a stronger case for your final piece? Poth you yourself started market research, why did this not come through?

I did do a lot of research when I had time to do it which was rare during this task due to personal circumstances, but not much of it covered the grounds of what would have been appropriate for the presentation.

I did share the results saying people wanted a family holiday, but the team seemed very keen on an adventure holiday, so I had to go with my team.

[Loukas]

Based on the fact the focus of this was not a design task, do you not feel your efforts could have been better spent focusing more on trying to gather as much information or research as you could to make a stronger case for your final piece?

Yes i do. But i was instructed to create the brochure so thats exactly what i did. I did send some information on various locations as i told the other candidates i could do more before i started designing.I mentioned this unique bar that wasn't mentioned that i saw as a selling point for both the young adults and and backpackers http://www.brovarnia.pl/en/.

[Mitchell]

I do agree, what with people being busy the results weren't produced to a high enough standard and the research suffered because of this

To an extent I agree with this, but I think I made up for this with personal research and on top of that the other things that I did, so personally I think the positives heavily outnumber the negatives.

[Benjamin]

The team also spent a lot of time at the start looking at places like Brazil, Australia and New Zealand. These are 3 massive tourist destinations and then you all wasted more time discussing building lodges and activities centers etc(which would have raised questions about taking jobs from the local community/businesses and planning permission etc) and was miles away from the objective of this project.

Who was responsible for most of this time wasting and why did nobody curb this idea sooner?

[Jake.]

To an extent I agree with this, but I think I made up for this with personal research and on top of that the other things that I did, so personally I think the positives heavily outnumber the negatives.

What personal research did you do?

[Jake.]

The team also spent a lot of time at the start looking at places like Brazil, Australia and New Zealand. These are 3 massive tourist destinations and then you all wasted more time discussing building lodges and activities centers etc(which would have raised questions about taking jobs from the local community/businesses and planning permission etc) and was miles away from the objective of this project.

Who was responsible for most of this time wasting and why did nobody curb this idea sooner?

Myself and Loukas were guilty of this, and Pothuthic made the point of the task clearer, I think I let go of the prospect a bit quicker than Loukas

[Mitchell]

What personal research did you do?

Yesterday I researched the history of Gdansk, I researched reviews on the hotel that I suggested and I looked at the 4 'adventurer' attractions

[Benjamin]

I'll ask the questions.

[Mitchell]

The team also spent a lot of time at the start looking at places like Brazil, Australia and New Zealand. These are 3 massive tourist destinations and then you all wasted more time discussing building lodges and activities centers etc(which would have raised questions about taking jobs from the local community/businesses and planning permission etc) and was miles away from the objective of this project.

Who was responsible for most of this time wasting and why did nobody curb this idea sooner?

I did bring this up constantly if you remember, from the start I suggested 4 European countries that weren't as popular (Slovenia, Slovakia, Serbia and Malta)

I also made it clear that I did not agree with the brazil or Australia ideas and I felt the whole lodges and activity centre ideas werent what we were tasked with, so I do feel like the other two were the two wasting time.

I tried to curb this idea, but I kept being told that it was a good idea :/

[Loukas]

The team also spent a lot of time at the start looking at places like Brazil, Australia and New Zealand. These are 3 massive tourist destinations and then you all wasted more time discussing building lodges and activities centers etc(which would have raised questions about taking jobs from the local community/businesses and planning permission etc) and was miles away from the objective of this project.

Who was responsible for most of this time wasting and why did nobody curb this idea sooner?

-puts hand up-
Me, i would say i wasted the most time. I mentioned New Zealand because New Zealand was the only country saw a drop in british tourists in the last year.

The top 6 countries for short term visits to New Zealand

Year ended Nov. 2012 || Year ended Nov. 2013
The amount of tourists in years 2012 & 2013

Australia
1,299,600 - 1,350,032

China, People's Republic of
194,752 231,120

United States
177,856 196,880

United Kingdom
191,360 190,816

Japan
69,968 75,052

Germany
62,656 68,384

i also mentioned Ouro Preto in Brazil cause it was a part of Brazil that not many people would know about. Looking back i could have focused more on the smaller countries of the world.

[Benjamin]

Loukas you say you were instructed to create the brochure, but this was a team effort. If you could see things were struggling why did you not step in and correct them or are you happy to pass the blame to one of your team mates?


To you all, who was the one in charge here or leading this task or were you all just scrambling around trying to make things work?

[Mitchell]

-puts hand up-
Me, i would say i wasted the most time. I mentioned New Zealand because New Zealand was the only country saw a drop in british tourists in the last year.

The top 6 countries for short term visits to New Zealand

Year ended Nov. 2012 || Year ended Nov. 2013
The amount of tourists in years 2012 & 2013

Australia
1,299,600 - 1,350,032

China, People's Republic of
194,752 231,120

United States
177,856 196,880

United Kingdom
191,360 190,816

Japan
69,968 75,052

Germany
62,656 68,384

i also mentioned Ouro Preto in Brazil cause it was a part of Brazil that not many people would know about. Looking back i could have focused more on the smaller countries of the world.

To be honest 500 people isn't a huge drop really? Especially for a country that is so highly visited.

With that point, the task did say to promote a lesser known country rather than a lesser known part of a very well known country.

[Jake.]

Loukas you say you were instructed to create the brochure, but this was a team effort. If you could see things were struggling why did you not step in and correct them or are you happy to pass the blame to one of your team mates?


To you all, who was the one in charge here or leading this task or were you all just scrambling around trying to make things work?

There wasn't a clear leader, nobody appointed themselves and it was all a bit of a mess