[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

but they do have the monopoly on advocating it. Are there secular people who are abusive? yes. but they don't justify it with their secularism. They don't feel justified for doing it, and they were never Taught to do it in the name of secularism.

Unlike Xtians and Jews and Muslims who are taught that being abusive is okay and even required. They are taught from an early age to be submissive and that anyone who rebels deserves punishment.

I was never taught that being abusive is okay - never, ever. So when you say "they", I'm not really sure who you're talking about. Certainly not me... and certainly not anyone I know.