[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

but you were taught that you should be submissive. and that people who don't submit deserve to be punished.

Do I seem submissive to you?

Really Alex, this is a thread about a moron who beat his child till he was bloody. It's got bugger-all to do with me or with religion. There's only one person to blame and that's the idiot who obviously doesn't know right from wrong.