[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

All I can do is ask you the same question I just asked Brillo;



You have plenty to say when it comes to reading posts and saying "that's not the case", but the question I've been attempting to address is "Why is there a difference between Muslims in certain other countries and Muslims in the UK; why doe some seem to have fewer problems".

Your answer, that it's just an inherent problem with a random minority taking control of others, doesn't make sense as an answer to that question. So in your opinion; why is there a difference?

To be fair I'm not sure if you've said that you think there is one, you might think that all countries are having the same issues. But Brillo did outright state that not all countries are having the problems the UK is having.

IF that is true - there is only ONE variable. The country itself. That is literally the only answer there can be, in my opinion, and by the rules of formal logic.

Our problem is being too lenient and accepting? I mean one of these guys was a C4 docu about the Jihadi next door, how did that even happen? was it assumed because he was so out in the open about it that he was like a reality star looking for 5 minute of fame...oh look at him with his outrageous views and Isis flag...its just too cute...

All I see is you making excuses, maybe there in lies the problem? too many liberals making excuses...? I consider myself quite liberal but in my view there is nothing that happens in society that justifies people knifing people on a night out whether that be as part of a gang or as in this case to cause terror there is just no excuses to be made, we don't make excuses for other murderers, I don't know how we can even begin to make excuses for these people, first it was our fault for getting involved in war, now its own our fault for not doing enough to integrate people, English as a second language is taught in every College around me and its generally free! , as Brillo pointed out some people don't want to integrate they are happy to live in their own communities and not embrace the wider community