[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by RhysJones

Maybe he just doesn't like him and doesn't trust him, not everyone in there has to like Raph. Not everyone in there likes each other. Is this so hard to get over or something

He said he was a nice guy, until Tom told him about him his VT.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He said he was a nice guy, until Tom told him about him his VT.

So then it's sort of Raph's fault is it not? for the god awful VT?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

So then it's sort of Raph's fault is it not? for the god awful VT?

Everyone lies on their VT to get it.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Everyone lies on their VT to get it.

That's not really the point though is it?

You're asking why Joe could possibly dislike Raph, him being wary after Tom explained his VT is a plausable reason - Raph literally said he was going to manipulate everyone and play a game nobody forced him to speak those words as a super fan he knows that.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

That's not really the point though is it?

You're asking why Joe could possibly dislike Raph, him being wary after Tom explained his VT is a plausable reason - Raph literally said he was going to manipulate everyone and play a game nobody forced him to speak those words as a super fan he knows that.

But Raph as done nothing to Joe. So maybe it's just a clash of personalities.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But Raph as done nothing to Joe. So maybe it's just a clash of personalities.

He doesn't have to do anything. If you hear somebody was bragging about manipulating others it's pretty normal to be wary of them.

I'd be wary of Raph tbh

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

That's not really the point though is it?

You're asking why Joe could possibly dislike Raph, him being wary after Tom explained his VT is a plausable reason - Raph literally said he was going to manipulate everyone and play a game nobody forced him to speak those words as a super fan he knows that.

I think after 7 days to still be using somebodies VT [Who you haven't even seen, just from word of mouth] as a reason is not really plausabile, and is infact very weak.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I think after 7 days to still be using somebodies VT [Who you haven't even seen, just from word of mouth] as a reason is not really plausabile, and is infact very weak.

Indeed

[Tinsel Toes]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I think after 7 days to still be using somebodies VT [Who you haven't even seen, just from word of mouth] as a reason is not really plausabile, and is infact very weak.

We saw their VT's when they entered - did we not ?

[MrWong]

I think Joe wanted to be the wise old sage of the house and if it wasn't for Raph and Charlotte he probably would be because the rest of the housemates are dumb AF.

[RhysJones]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He said he was a nice guy, until Tom told him about him his VT.

That was the first night, of course everyone is gonna seem nice unless they do something major