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Oliver_W
18-12-2019, 01:24 PM
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The EU may well collapse under its own weight at some point. There's no need for it to be anything more than a set of trading agreements. Having laws set by them including border control is what turns people off, and very few people are happy with further integration.

Twosugars
18-12-2019, 01:47 PM
They will compromise. Hard right in Poland wont risk leaving, EU is popular there.

Hard right is a menace wherever it governs.

Twosugars
18-12-2019, 01:50 PM
The EU may well collapse under its own weight at some point. There's no need for it to be anything more than a set of trading agreements. Having laws set by them including border control is what turns people off, and very few people are happy with further integration.

:laugh: the collapse has been predicted since forever.
Sure EU needs to reform as always, to respond as best it can. But collapse? No,

Oliver_W
18-12-2019, 03:10 PM
:laugh: the collapse has been predicted since forever.
Sure EU needs to reform as always, to respond as best it can. But collapse? No,

Sure it's beeb predicted forever; but ever since the Ravelling Nancy people have been predicting that manual labour will die out. It's always been poopooed, but it looks increasingly likely due to further automation. Similarly, the EU keeps ravelling itself up in more red tape.

Twosugars
18-12-2019, 03:37 PM
Sure it's beeb predicted forever; but ever since the Ravelling Nancy people have been predicting that manual labour will die out. It's always been poopooed, but it looks increasingly likely due to further automation. Similarly, the EU keeps ravelling itself up in more red tape.

They said we'd work less bc of computers :laugh:

We can trade predictions like a game of ping pong

The bottom line is european countries are stronger together and that will keep them as a bloc.

bots
18-12-2019, 04:27 PM
They said we'd work less bc of computers :laugh:

We can trade predictions like a game of ping pong

The bottom line is european countries are stronger together and that will keep them as a bloc.

there will be a lot less money in the pot when the uk leaves, germany is going through big political changes. Nothing is certain in this life

Twosugars
18-12-2019, 04:54 PM
there will be a lot less money in the pot when the uk leaves, germany is going through big political changes. Nothing is certain in this life

They will reduce spending and adjust contributions :shrug:

Tom4784
18-12-2019, 07:20 PM
It's typical British arrogance to assume something will fall apart because we are no longer part of it.

The UK is not a power player on the world stage, we haven't been a super power since the days of the Empire. We are not the be all and end all and the sun does not rise and fall at our command. People need to adjust their expectations.

Kizzy
18-12-2019, 07:26 PM
It's maybe for the best we are leaving as our lurch to the right makes Poland look like Corbyn land. ..the EU is better off without far right usurpers.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-far-right-extremists-join-conservatives-support-britain-first-a9252201.html?fbclid=IwAR0YzcPPIbjN1irkA9KKYGmyNZY 00Grk-rBU_Kyp2EMhRil6SM5eSpTDuq0

The Slim Reaper
18-12-2019, 08:00 PM
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arista
18-12-2019, 11:28 PM
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arista
18-12-2019, 11:31 PM
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Kizzy
19-12-2019, 03:00 AM
Meanwhile this was buried untill after the election...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/homeless-disabled-ill-rough-sleeping-housing-crisis-a9251756.html

arista
19-12-2019, 03:03 AM
Meanwhile this was buried untill after the election...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/homeless-disabled-ill-rough-sleeping-housing-crisis-a9251756.html


No It is not
The BBC & SkyNewsHD are reporting on all that
on TV and Radio.

It will get far worse.

arista
19-12-2019, 03:08 AM
Today in Parliament
it is the New Queens Speech

Ammi
19-12-2019, 04:09 AM
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...but Jeremy Corbyn hasn’t had the ‘right image’ for Labour...?...Lordy, Lord...scary stuff, Slim...these are the times we live in...


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arista
19-12-2019, 07:32 AM
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Kizzy
19-12-2019, 09:04 AM
No It is not
The BBC & SkyNewsHD are reporting on all that
on TV and Radio.

It will get far worse.

Yes it was... we needed to know about this prior to the election. Not that I think it will have mattered to the brexit obsessed, who will see a few deaths as collateral damage for the govt who will deliver the hard brexit they fantasise about.

Crimson Dynamo
19-12-2019, 09:13 AM
1206985469529141249

haha brilliant

called it

Kizzy
19-12-2019, 09:24 AM
It begins. This is what was voted in.. suck it up proles.

Why Boris Johnson’s changes to courts could affect your job

The government’s proposal to permit lower British courts to overrule existing case law set by the European Court of Justice will have far-reaching consequences.

Trade unions warned that the move could allow exploitative bosses to try to challenge protections for low-paid workers, which have been built up over several decades.

Sean O’Grady explains the significance of the plan – and looks at how it could impact on employment rights.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-live-brexit-no-deal-queens-speech-labour-leadership-corbyn-a9252921.html

Crimson Dynamo
19-12-2019, 09:29 AM
It begins. This is what was voted in.. suck it up proles.

Why Boris Johnson’s changes to courts could affect your job

The government’s proposal to permit lower British courts to overrule existing case law set by the European Court of Justice will have far-reaching consequences.

Trade unions warned that the move could allow exploitative bosses to try to challenge protections for low-paid workers, which have been built up over several decades.

Sean O’Grady explains the significance of the plan – and looks at how it could impact on employment rights.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-live-brexit-no-deal-queens-speech-labour-leadership-corbyn-a9252921.html

more trolling by that awful failing rag

Kizzy
19-12-2019, 09:39 AM
more trolling by that awful failing rag



It's a report on events happening, this is not quite a post truth world... yet.
Do you have an opinion on the report?

arista
19-12-2019, 10:39 AM
The Queen is Live
in the House of Lords.


"no more selling your home
for a ill relative"


"improved Internet for all"

Kizzy
19-12-2019, 11:59 AM
More lies... the tories never have give a toss about the NHS and never will.

ZTnIOh6yl6Y

The Slim Reaper
19-12-2019, 12:03 PM
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Back from the dead is this absolute tosh. "We've got der Uropeans where we want em' boyzzzzzzz"

Stacks/sticks was correct, just on the wrong timeline, we're leaving without a deal.

Tom4784
19-12-2019, 01:12 PM
The arrogance of brexiters knows no bounds if they think we're in a position of strength.

Beso
19-12-2019, 01:49 PM
Strongest position we have been in since the start..Boris will get this done and we will all live in harmony and everything will be fine.

Marsh.
19-12-2019, 01:53 PM
Strongest position we have been in since the start..Boris will get this done and we will all live in harmony and everything will be fine.

Yeah and Santa's coming next Wednesday.

Twosugars
19-12-2019, 01:56 PM
Strongest position we have been in since the start..Boris will get this done and we will all live in harmony and everything will be fine.

https://i.imgur.com/8Dh24qX.gif

Tom4784
19-12-2019, 01:59 PM
Strongest position we have been in since the start..Boris will get this done and we will all live in harmony and everything will be fine.

And then the fever dream will end and you'll realise that the Tories have made us an international laughing stock. We are in no position to act like the world turns at our command.

arista
19-12-2019, 02:09 PM
The arrogance of brexiters knows no bounds if they think we're in a position of strength.



Do Not Forget The Utter Arrogance of Jo Swinson
and The Labour Party.


Its not hard
to Respect Labour Leaver Voters.
5million of them.

arista
19-12-2019, 02:10 PM
Corbyn is Live in the House Commons
now

Tom4784
19-12-2019, 02:11 PM
Do Not Forget The Utter Arrogance of Jo Swinson
and The Labour Party.


Its not hard
to Respect Labour Leaver Voters.
5million of them.

Pointing at people who aren't in power and screeching about them does little to change the fact that we're in a bad position and that's entirely down to the governments we've had throughout this nightmare.

You may prefer to distract yourself but I prefer to face reality as it is.

The Slim Reaper
19-12-2019, 02:11 PM
Let's assume that this legislation is a valid piece of negotiating strategy, as is putting no deal back on the table. Doesn't the fact we've gone round for 2 years telling anyone who'll listen, that this is part of our negotiation strategy, sort of undermine the fact that this will make dem foreigners take us seriously now?

Twosugars
19-12-2019, 02:15 PM
Do Not Forget The Utter Arrogance of Jo Swinson
and The Labour Party.


Its not hard
to Respect Labour Leaver Voters.
5million of them.

Respect Remain Voters


16,141,241

arista
19-12-2019, 02:23 PM
The PM is now Live

arista
19-12-2019, 02:24 PM
Respect Remain Voters


16,141,241


Sure but as well as Respecting Labour Leaver votes
also the Large UK Leavers
even some in Scotland , no less

arista
19-12-2019, 02:29 PM
Pointing at people who aren't in power and screeching about them does little to change the fact that we're in a bad position and that's entirely down to the governments we've had throughout this nightmare.

You may prefer to distract yourself but I prefer to face reality as it is.


Sure we will see
after 31st of January
2020

Not long to go.

Bliss

Beso
19-12-2019, 02:30 PM
And then the fever dream will end and you'll realise that the Tories have made us an international laughing stock. We are in no position to act like the world turns at our command.

I would say the opposition and the failure to honour a public vote without screams for it to be cancelled is the main reason you believe us to be an international laughing stock.

Crimson Dynamo
19-12-2019, 02:32 PM
I would say the opposition and the failure to honour a public vote without screams for it to be cancelled is the main reason you believe us to be an international laughing stock.

bang on right parmy

Tom4784
19-12-2019, 02:33 PM
I would say the opposition and the failure to honour a public vote without screams for it to be cancelled is the main reason you believe us to be an international laughing stock.

You're entitled to be completely and utterly wrong.

Blaming the opposition when Brexiters have been in control since the referendum is silly and delusional but then I don't expect most Brexiters to ever take responsibility for their own choices, it's always someone else's fault.

Twosugars
19-12-2019, 02:33 PM
I would say the opposition and the failure to honour a public vote without screams for it to be cancelled is the main reason you believe us to be an international laughing stock.

You mean the vote that has everyone abroad looking away in embarrassment?
Except trump and putin of course :laugh:

Twosugars
19-12-2019, 02:34 PM
bang on right parmy

Said while getting ready for independence and rejoining the EU :joker:

arista
19-12-2019, 02:42 PM
The SNP Leader is Speaking


Loads have left the the House
as usual.

arista
19-12-2019, 04:15 PM
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Beso
19-12-2019, 04:22 PM
You're entitled to be completely and utterly wrong.

Blaming the opposition when Brexiters have been in control since the referendum is silly and delusional but then I don't expect most Brexiters to ever take responsibility for their own choices, it's always someone else's fault.


May was a remainer as I think Cameron was as well.

Im vwry happy to take all the responsibility....and congratulations for my choices cause it ain't going to be the **** show you desperately want it to be.

Marsh.
19-12-2019, 04:25 PM
My my, she's looking back with rose-tinted specs already.

Twosugars
19-12-2019, 04:51 PM
May was a remainer as I think Cameron was as well.

Im vwry happy to take all the responsibility....and congratulations for my choices cause it ain't going to be the **** show you desperately want it to be.

And bojo tossed a coin after writing two articles, one for leave and another for remain

Beso
19-12-2019, 05:12 PM
And bojo tossed a coin after writing two articles, one for leave and another for remain

And now he is doing the countries bidding like he and all the rest of them should.:dance:

arista
19-12-2019, 05:15 PM
Zac Goldsmith
Conservative who lost his seat in Putney
has been sent to the House Of the Lords
as he is keeping his job as Environment Minister.
Lord Goldsmith.

Do not Forget Blair did the same
in New Labour

Ref: ITV1HD London.

A link
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/zac-goldsmith-boris-johnson-house-seat-peerage-commons-parliament-a9253991.html

Twosugars
19-12-2019, 05:16 PM
And now he is doing the countries bidding like he and all the rest of them should.:dance:

Based on lies he produced. So in fact he's doing his own bidding

Twosugars
19-12-2019, 05:17 PM
Zac Goldsmith
Conservative who lost his seat in Putney
has been sent to the House Of the Lords
as he is keeping his job as Environment Minister.
Lord Goldsmith.

Do not Forget Blair did the same
in New Labour

:joker::joker:

Beyond joke

arista
19-12-2019, 05:21 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/17D10/production/_110225579_daily-mail-19-dec.jpg

Well Done PM
helping the High Street

The Slim Reaper
19-12-2019, 05:46 PM
Zac Goldsmith
Conservative who lost his seat in Putney
has been sent to the House Of the Lords
as he is keeping his job as Environment Minister.
Lord Goldsmith.

Do not Forget Blair did the same
in New Labour

Ref: ITV1HD London.

A link
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/zac-goldsmith-boris-johnson-house-seat-peerage-commons-parliament-a9253991.html

That was years ago. Unfortunately Arista is always posting old news. :smug:

arista
19-12-2019, 07:42 PM
That was years ago. Unfortunately Arista is always posting old news. :smug:

no its New News

arista
19-12-2019, 07:42 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/12EF0/production/_110225577_telegraph-19-dec.jpg

The Slim Reaper
19-12-2019, 07:49 PM
no its New News

New labour is new news? I post vids of Farage saying scrap the nhs and you say 2013 is too old.

Tom4784
19-12-2019, 08:53 PM
May was a remainer as I think Cameron was as well.

Im vwry happy to take all the responsibility....and congratulations for my choices cause it ain't going to be the **** show you desperately want it to be.

Cameron quit as soon as the results of the referendum was announced and May pretty much did everything she could to get Brexit done, I hate the tories with every fibre of my being but it's foolish to pretend that May didn't do everything she could in regards to brexit.

You say it's not going to be a ****show but most economical and financial experts disagree with you, hell, the government disagrees with you. Go look up the Yellowhammer report and that's one of the better predicted outcomes of brexit. They never released the worst reports.

I don't desperately want it to fail but it's nothing short of arrogance to disregard all the warning signs because you don't want to listen to things you don't like to hear. I'd love to be proved wrong but I'm not going to be because I don't cherry pick the news depending on whether it's pleasing to me or not. I listen to the good and the bad and that's why I'm more in tune with what's going to happen then most brexiters who are still living on hopes and prayers.

You deal with the worst through preparation, Brexiters would have us sit around making anti-EU daisy chains instead because they can't deal with the fact that there's more than a distinct possibility that they made a bad choice.

I'd rather know what's ahead then be ignorant of it.

Tom4784
19-12-2019, 08:54 PM
New labour is new news? I post vids of Farage saying scrap the nhs and you say 2013 is too old.

If it benefits his agenda, it's okay. If it doesn't then there will be a reason to discount it somewhere godamnit!

arista
20-12-2019, 12:43 AM
New labour is new news? I post vids of Farage saying scrap the nhs and you say 2013 is too old.

Thats a relevant side point
on how so many get job transfers
to the House of Lords.

All you need to try
is add a date with old videos you post

Lord Zac Goldsmith
is the main point and that is New TODAY

arista
20-12-2019, 12:46 AM
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arista
20-12-2019, 12:48 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/A5AE/production/_110241424_i.jpg

arista
20-12-2019, 01:50 AM
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SLIM
stop posting FAKE NEWS please


[Britain First leader Paul Golding's Conservative Party application 'not approved]


Thank you to poster Jet
who posted the the link on my Corbyn thread.

The Slim Reaper
20-12-2019, 06:52 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMNrW3uVAAIhkX4?format=jpg&name=900x900

Toy Soldier
20-12-2019, 06:55 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMNrW3uVAAIhkX4?format=jpg&name=900x900Trickle-down economics illustrated.

Ammi
20-12-2019, 07:01 AM
....we used to feel that country leaders were chosen for some fine qualities/ideals/beliefs/visions etc...and now we have elected leaders who are being endorsed by groups like the Klu Klux Klan, Britain First...groups that are known for their prejudice and ‘elitism’....these are really concerning times that we’re living in...I don’t really see what’s ‘fake news’ about that ...

The Slim Reaper
20-12-2019, 07:07 AM
Trickle-down economics illustrated.

A lot of those places would have been propped up with EU funding. Turkeys really will vote for Christmas.

Crimson Dynamo
20-12-2019, 07:59 AM
....we used to feel that country leaders were chosen for some fine qualities/ideals/beliefs/visions etc...and now we have elected leaders who are being endorsed by groups like the Klu Klux Klan, Britain First...groups that are known for their prejudice and ‘elitism’....these are really concerning times that we’re living in...I don’t really see what’s ‘fake news’ about that ...

One tiny minority organisation tells their members to join the Conservatives because they won

the last estimate of their membership number was 800

If that merits "concerning times" then im a Dutchman:joker:

Crimson Dynamo
20-12-2019, 08:00 AM
A lot of those places would have been propped up with EU funding. Turkeys really will vote for Christmas.

keep insulting people who disgaree with you. :conf:

DO you not understand that is why the party you support lost again and will continue to lose?

The Slim Reaper
20-12-2019, 08:02 AM
keep insulting people who disgaree with you. :conf:

DO you not understand that is why the party you support lost again and will continue to lose?

HOW is that an insult?

Crimson Dynamo
20-12-2019, 08:13 AM
HOW is that an insult?

calling voters Turkeys who are "so stupid" they vote for their own death

its beyond insulting and arrogant

Toy Soldier
20-12-2019, 08:13 AM
....we used to feel that country leaders were chosen for some fine qualities/ideals/beliefs/visions etc...and now we have elected leaders who are being endorsed by groups like the Klu Klux Klan, Britain First...groups that are known for their prejudice and ‘elitism’....these are really concerning times that we’re living in...I don’t really see what’s ‘fake news’ about that ...I mean to be fair, we've had plenty of counterexamples in the past... People just gloss over it with time. Good ol Churchill had some very dodgy views but people on here get a bit miffed if you talk about that [emoji23]

arista
20-12-2019, 08:15 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/096E/production/_110241420_guardian.jpg

The Slim Reaper
20-12-2019, 08:17 AM
calling voters Turkeys who are "so stupid" they vote for their own death

its beyond insulting and arrogant

:joker:

arista
20-12-2019, 08:18 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/11C0A/production/_110241727_express.jpg

Ammi
20-12-2019, 08:21 AM
I mean to be fair, we've had plenty of counterexamples in the past... People just gloss over it with time. Good ol Churchill had some very dodgy views but people on here get a bit miffed if you talk about that [emoji23]

...hmmmm, it couldn’t be said though at the time of his election to PM..that he was being endorsed by prejudice/hate groups in the same way...I get what you’re saying but it’s not really a comparable...?...

Ammi
20-12-2019, 08:26 AM
....’turkeys voting for Christmas’ is a widely known and acknowledged philosophy...I’m just looking at the wiki page on it...in the USA, it’s ‘turkeys voting for thanksgiving’, which is used for the philosophy...or ‘chickens voting for Colonel Sanders’...Germany apparently has...’Only the most stupid calves would vote for their butchers’....

Crimson Dynamo
20-12-2019, 08:57 AM
It is, of course, palpable nonsense to suggest that Boris Johnson’s government is further to
the right that its recent predecessors, and even more ridiculous to claim it’s more
Thatcherite than Thatcher. This all hails from the “Everyone I disagree with is Hitler” school
of Leftist thought.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/18/labours-retreat-tories-fascists-insulting-predictable/

good article about insulting voters

arista
20-12-2019, 08:59 AM
The PM was Live in Parliament
pushing his New Brexit Deal through.

Sad Corbyn is talking now

Ammi
20-12-2019, 09:06 AM
....hmmmm no, it doesn’t appear that ‘everyone I disagree with is Hitler’ is a widely known and acknowledged leftist school philosophy...I’m thinking that one might be more the ...keep insulting people who disgaree with you/type...

The Slim Reaper
20-12-2019, 09:07 AM
It is, of course, palpable nonsense to suggest that Boris Johnson’s government is further to
the right that its recent predecessors, and even more ridiculous to claim it’s more
Thatcherite than Thatcher. This all hails from the “Everyone I disagree with is Hitler” school
of Leftist thought.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/18/labours-retreat-tories-fascists-insulting-predictable/

good article about insulting voters

So...a phrase in common parlance to describe voters voting against their own interests is bad, but the strawmanning of the left is good?

Since the election, Johnson has gone back on his pledge to protect workers rights in his deal, he's now put conditions on his hourly wage pledge, rips up his pledge to protect migrant children, is being promoted by the far right, he's about to redistrict voting areas to make sure the tories remain in power. All perfectly normal though.

Crimson Dynamo
20-12-2019, 09:09 AM
So...a phrase in common parlance to describe voters voting against their own interests is bad, but the strawmanning of the left is good?

Since the election, Johnson has gone back on his pledge to protect workers rights in his deal, he's now put conditions on his hourly wage pledge, rips up his pledge to protect migrant children, is being promoted by the far right, he's about to redistrict voting areas to make sure the tories remain in power. All perfectly normal though.

Johnson won and won by a barrelload - people like him and what he is doing, you dont like him and will try to find anything possible to be negative, at some point slim you have to accept your views are not popular and people dont agree with your worldview

and move on

The Slim Reaper
20-12-2019, 09:16 AM
Johnson won and won by a barrelload - people like him and what he is doing, you dont like him and will try to find anything possible to be negative, at some point slim you have to accept your views are not popular and people dont agree with your worldview

and move on

I don't disagree with most of that, but the fact people like what he's doing says absolutely nothing about whether it will help their lives, and I'm not trying to find anything to be negative about, he's doing these things out in the open.

I've moved on, I said the day after the election how badly I misjudged the public. Again, that says nothing about the reality of what Johnson is doing.

Finally, telling everyone to act like a serf and subjugate themselves at the feet of Boris seems like the antithesis of what I would expect from a political tough talker like your good self..

Tom4784
20-12-2019, 01:11 PM
calling voters Turkeys who are "so stupid" they vote for their own death

its beyond insulting and arrogant

You're strangely offended given that you say you voted for SNP. Why would a phrase aimed at Tory voters upset you so much when your party of choice literally has gotten where it's gotten to by opposing the tories?

Doesn't make much sense.

Also pearl clutching never works out for you, I don't know why you keep defaulting back to it when it's easy enough to drum up posts where you describe a child with asperger's as disturbed and worse besides.

Kizzy
20-12-2019, 01:44 PM
SLIM
stop posting FAKE NEWS please


[Britain First leader Paul Golding's Conservative Party application 'not approved]


Thank you to poster Jet
who posted the the link on my Corbyn thread.

Again...that was 1 man. There are 1000s of Britain first members obviously not as high profile who have been instructed to join the conservatives. Read the articles posted by myself and slim again.
Please don't be railroaded by misinformation arista.

Crimson Dynamo
20-12-2019, 01:47 PM
Again...that was 1 man. There are 1000s of Britain first members obviously not as high profile who have been instructed to join the conservatives. Read the articles posted by myself and slim again.
Please don't be railroaded by misinformation arista.

no there are 800 members and the number who actually do try and become tory members will be a fraction of that

the 2 words that would be ideal here are totally inconsequential

Beso
20-12-2019, 01:47 PM
They sure did..which is why the labour party got the biggest kick in its balls it's ever had..yet there he is, the cause of it all...still clinging onto the tiniest slither of power he has, which was the only thing that mattered to him.

But we saw through that as well and sent him on his way..now do the decent thing Jeremy and **** of to the backbench where you belong, plotting against your own party.

Kizzy
20-12-2019, 01:52 PM
no there are 800 members and the number who actually do try and become tory members will be a fraction of that

the 2 words that would be ideal here are totally inconsequential

Oh look at you jumping about in an attempt to discredit the article.. hmm

Crimson Dynamo
20-12-2019, 01:54 PM
Oh look at you jumping about in an attempt to discredit the article.. hmm

no i am correcting your error

you should be thanking me

Kizzy
20-12-2019, 01:56 PM
no i am correcting your error

you should be thanking me

When I need your help I'll ask for it, untill then hold your breath... :joker:

Oliver_W
20-12-2019, 02:55 PM
Oh look at you jumping about in an attempt to discredit the article.. hmm

Which part of the article said Britain First have "thousands" of members?

I hope someone didn't let herself be railroaded by misinformation.

jet
20-12-2019, 07:07 PM
Again...that was 1 man. There are 1000s of Britain first members obviously not as high profile who have been instructed to join the conservatives. Read the articles posted by myself and slim again.
Please don't be railroaded by misinformation arista.

Instructed or not, whether or not they manage to join anonymously as not being BF members, they are not welcome.

The article I posted clearly states:

.....membership applicants receive an automatic confirmation ahead of a fuller vetting process.....members of Britain First and the individual you cite would certainly not be welcome in the Conservative Party."

Is that clear enough for you...

Beso
20-12-2019, 07:14 PM
Maybe it's just Britain first members changing thier minds like a large percentage of the labour party did in the voting...

And then papers jazzing it up for the chickens that would vote for not being part of a joke.

arista
21-12-2019, 08:10 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/145C3/production/_110259338_times.jpg

arista
22-12-2019, 10:40 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMWYeAcWwAAMaHS?format=jpg&name=small

Fella you better Fly to NZ
then.

arista
22-12-2019, 10:50 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/13BA7/production/_110270808_express.jpg

The Slim Reaper
22-12-2019, 11:40 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/13BA7/production/_110270808_express.jpg

Basic maths proves this as laughable. Best government guesses at the moment (and they're obviously pro-brexit so theres a chance they're heavily weighted for), shows that brexit will cost 1.6% of the economy and they're saying trade deals with US and Australia will mitigate that loss to 1.4%.

Livia
22-12-2019, 11:44 AM
It is, of course, palpable nonsense to suggest that Boris Johnson’s government is further to
the right that its recent predecessors, and even more ridiculous to claim it’s more
Thatcherite than Thatcher. This all hails from the “Everyone I disagree with is Hitler” school
of Leftist thought.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/18/labours-retreat-tories-fascists-insulting-predictable/

good article about insulting voters

Good post, and interesting article.

Kizzy
22-12-2019, 02:08 PM
Good post, and interesting article.

It's only interesting if you're subscribed.
It's not a good post, it's a very skewed post that doesn't examine any reasoning why that corellation has been drawn at all.

Could it not be classes as 'palpable nonsense' that there is a leftist school of thought that believes that everyone who disagrees with them is Hitler? :/

This is a very hipocritical post that attempt to pass wild accusations off as debate.

arista
22-12-2019, 02:21 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1187417079965720578/15r0rwrA?format=jpg&name=small

Yes Nigel
Johnson Got a Massive Win.
As you called it
The Brexit Election.

arista
22-12-2019, 02:26 PM
It's only interesting if you're subscribed.
It's not a good post, it's a very skewed post that doesn't examine any reasoning why that corellation has been drawn at all.

Could it not be classes as 'palpable nonsense' that there is a leftist school of thought that believes that everyone who disagrees with them is Hitler? :/

This is a very hipocritical post that attempt to pass wild accusations off as debate.

Yes its Far to Expensive to buy the Telegraph online.
I buy the paper.

Kizzy
22-12-2019, 10:16 PM
Strangely I don't buy the telegraph.

arista
24-12-2019, 12:33 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/2254/production/_110288780_tim24.jpg

Kizzy
24-12-2019, 12:42 AM
Mustique eh? ...suck on that plebs!

Twosugars
24-12-2019, 05:50 AM
Hasn't visited the flooded areas though.
People's prime minister

The Slim Reaper
24-12-2019, 07:07 AM
1209275218797088768

And let the bells ring out for Christmas.

arista
24-12-2019, 07:49 AM
1209111593038106626

A Collection of Clips from this years
Busy Politics.

The Slim Reaper
24-12-2019, 07:55 AM
1209111593038106626

A Collection of Clips from this years
Busy Politics.

Sure

This is normal for Arista
to post old clips

do you have a comment
on tories kicking disabled people
off benefits just before
the birthday of our
lord and saviour?

Toy Soldier
24-12-2019, 08:57 AM
1209275218797088768



And let the bells ring out for Christmas.To be fair this is an inaccurate representation of something that is accurately horrible.

Nothing has been "cut" since the election, it's that the figures were released showing the number affected by cuts and changes that have been going on for the last 5 years.

Not that I trust Johnson or don't expect that he may well introduce yet more cuts... But, I'm not sure fake headlines ever really help.

Kizzy
24-12-2019, 12:01 PM
There have been a number of reports released post election that were suppressed on child poverty and homelessness too.
Nobody can be surprised at this though surely? If you voted Tory this is what you voted for. Project eugenics is well established.

Toy Soldier
24-12-2019, 12:55 PM
Nobody can be surprised at this though surely? If you voted Tory this is what you voted for. Project eugenics is well established.

The rabble of the Tory masses is basically "good becoz I heard lots of them r faking anyway maybe taking their money will teach them a lesson". So not only are they not surprised... They straight up don't care / are happy to hear about disability cuts.

Kizzy
24-12-2019, 01:04 PM
The rabble of the Tory masses is basically "good becoz I heard lots of them r faking anyway maybe taking their money will teach them a lesson". So not only are they not surprised... They straight up don't care / are happy to hear about disability cuts.

Yep all that poverty porn paid off, they created an 'us and them' divide that has manifested into a division so deep that anything can happen to them and there's no public outcry whatsoever.
The ' I'm alright jacks' ... only 3 wageslips away from homelessness themselves, moralising over whether Lisa from Blackpool should order her shoes out of a catalogue...pffft!

arista
24-12-2019, 01:36 PM
Sure

This is normal for Arista
to post old clips

do you have a comment
on tories kicking disabled people
off benefits just before
the birthday of our
lord and saviour?





Unlike You
these are all from this year.
Rob Burley of the BBC do some
good editing there.

And I stated
"this Year busy Politics"

arista
24-12-2019, 01:46 PM
1209482577360441344

arista
24-12-2019, 01:53 PM
1209404904982417408

Better Go Back to Petrol
UK Police

arista
25-12-2019, 01:55 PM
1209377285230477312

arista
25-12-2019, 02:07 PM
HMS Queen at 3PM
said Come Together.
Mentioned WW2
and how everything has now changed.

Scarlett.
25-12-2019, 03:04 PM
No debates today! Christmas truce is on!

arista
25-12-2019, 03:27 PM
The Temp LibDem
Co Leader Ed Davey
Xmas message was love your enemy.

Twosugars
25-12-2019, 04:01 PM
No debates today! Christmas truce is on!

:hee:

Kizzy
25-12-2019, 10:03 PM
HMS Queen at 3PM
said Come Together.
Mentioned WW2
and how everything has now changed.

Yep she knows we're all feked.

michael21
25-12-2019, 10:07 PM
Yep she knows we're all feked.

I think you want to feke arista :smug:

UserSince2005
25-12-2019, 10:48 PM
This was so iconic :lovehearts:

arista
26-12-2019, 10:40 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/8rAxikpwx-C0ImkZ1pf30g/https/media.fyre.co/zJxaLAdhTSCKVHJFvItB_times.JPG

Help for Up North

Twosugars
26-12-2019, 10:43 PM
Time to close this thread, it's old news now

arista
27-12-2019, 05:26 AM
Thats today's paper.

michael21
27-12-2019, 07:31 AM
Thats today's paper.

Papers are behind the times we have better technology now so we can get up to the minute news

arista
27-12-2019, 01:17 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/1566D/production/_110316678_final-mirror-front-27dec.jpg


Another Pledge Win
for England as Our Hospitals
are to allow Free Parking
for some folks.

Debated on LBC radio.

arista
28-12-2019, 02:41 PM
The Independent Group For Change Disbands After Election Wipeout

Utter Bliss.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/independent-group-for-change-disbands_uk_5dfbb1eee4b0eb2264d64b26?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics

Crimson Dynamo
28-12-2019, 02:46 PM
The Independent Group For Change Disbands After Election Wipeout

Utter Bliss.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/independent-group-for-change-disbands_uk_5dfbb1eee4b0eb2264d64b26?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics

oh well, it makes a change I guess

arista
28-12-2019, 02:50 PM
oh well, it makes a change I guess




https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGqcHLZ8uC7hFpJXJVhA4rdAEjp657v in7ZD7lK3sPlGiOKfrw&s


Yes they can
Bugger off from Politics
All members lost their seats

arista
31-12-2019, 10:38 PM
1212151581145255937

michael21
31-12-2019, 10:41 PM
Let's say goodbye to this thread green man :fist:

King of the bump

arista
01-01-2020, 06:32 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/0253/production/_110359500_express.jpg