General Election on Thursday Dec 12th : Conservative Win

[user104658]

Isn't American health insurance slightly cheaper than National Insurance, on average? If NI were slashed it might be worth it.

1) There are almost always costs above and beyond insurance. Insurance adjustments SHOULD stop a random average hospital stay for, let's say, some broken bones costing tens-of-thousands (which is what the bill will be) but usually you'll still be left with a bill of, say $600 at the end.

2) If you're unlucky enough to develop cancer or something you're ****ed. Unlike Universal Healthcare - insurance runs out. If you get a chronic illness in the US you are very, very likely to end up bankrupt unless you're literally a millionaire.

3) N.I. scales with income so people on low incomes don't pay huge sums. In the US if you can only afford very basic health insurance, you're only going to get very basic care. For the wealthy, a very high level of coverage might only cost the same as their current N.I. but for everyone else, no.

4) All of this is moot. They're not going to slash N.I. even if the NHS was completely dismantled because the NHS is tax funded. N.I. contributions are essentially "employment insurance" - they pay contributions-based out of work benefits and pensions. The pensions pot is already dry... they literally cannot cut NI at all.

5) They could in theory take the money saved out of income tax and slash those tax rates, but it's HIGHLY unlikely that they'll ever cut the 20% rate, so again a disproportionate gain for the wealthy in the 40%+ bracket.

[Kazanne]

Yes, so far we have not been able to vote.

Oh ,hope you will be able to vote this tie round Ness:wavey:

[Tom4784]

if they cancel the votes then the country will genuinely become a war zone, there will be riots and fighting and tbh lack of care

Most brexiters are armchair warriors who will tut and share posts on facebook but ultimately won't do anything. There will be no riots but there may be a spike in Right Wing Terrorism and we ultimately shouldn't let terrorism win by cowering into doing what terrorists want.

[Tom4784]

Tbh I don't think zero hours contracts should be banned - supply teachers and bank nurses are basically on them, as are other agency workers.

Zero hour contracts are a cancer that only really work for younger people in education but are being applied across the board. It is unsustainable employment for most people.

[Tom4784]

I will never forgive anyone that voted for brexit or any party that supported it if the NHS goes down because we'll be stuck in a ****ty deal with the US. Go read about the medical costs in the US and be glad that we have the NHS. We should be protecting the NHS at all costs, not pretending that the US model is good just because doing so makes no deal Brexit more of a possibility.

I've never seen a group of people wish harm on themselves as much as brexiters often do.

[Twosugars]

Oh ,hope you will be able to vote this tie round Ness:wavey:

She will not be able to vote.
Blame your favourite government for that.

[arista]

Tory representatives have already been having meetings with American pharmaceutical companies, it’s not that much of a stretch to believe that the next step is handing parts of the NHS to the US, privatised healthcare will kill millions in this country and it’ll be on the Tories hands.



Yes to get a Discount

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Yes to get a Discount

We've been meeting to get a discount?

The only major country that won't have a trade deal with it's nearest neighbours, is getting a discount from the country that has hurt it's own economy to start trade wars?

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You should do stand up Arista, because you know this **** isn't true.

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[Twosugars]

They dont care about the union. That's why Scotland should vote for independence and NI for unification of Ireland

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[arista]

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A Nurse Calls in
A Older Bloke Attacks Younger Owen.

[arista]

They dont care about the union. That's why Scotland should vote for independence and NI for unification of Ireland


Yes and Labour
Will Give Scotland that Vote

[The Slim Reaper]

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A Nurse Calls in
A Older Bloke Attacks Younger Owen.

Do you agree with Michael or the nurse?

[arista]

Do you agree with Michael or the nurse?


Both

[The Slim Reaper]

Both

They gave opposite opinions regarding the NHS. You're so close to being truthful with yourself, but you don't want to face up to what that actually means in reality.

[arista]

They gave opposite opinions regarding the NHS. You're so close to being truthful with yourself, but you don't want to face up to what that actually means in reality.


Look The Nurse was Correct about the NHS

The Older Fella was right about Owen.

[The Slim Reaper]

Look The Nurse was Correct about the NHS

The Older Fella was right about Owen.

The nurse used facts, Michael was subjective about Owen. Spot the difference?

[arista]

Nicky Morgan Conservative MP is Standing Down
at this 12 Dec Election

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Twosugars]

Nicky Morgan Conservative MP is Standing Down
at this 12 Dec Election

Good. Lost any respect for her when she joined bojo's government

[arista]

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[James]

The problem with the health system in America is not that it has private health services, rather it is nearly-all funded by private insurance that leaves some people without cover.

A lot of European countries, and Canada, for example, have privately-run health services but the difference with America is, that when comes to paying for it, the health insurance is national and compulsory, with people who can't afford it getting it paid for them by the government.

[James]

They dont care about the union. That's why Scotland should vote for independence and NI for unification of Ireland

That doesn't make sense to me: wanting to divide one island and unite another.

To me supporting both of those opposing positions are just a sort of trendy idea (at the moment).

[Twosugars]

That doesn't make sense to me: wanting to divide one island and unite another.

To me supporting both of those opposing positions are just a sort of trendy idea (at the moment).

One is artificially disunited and the other artificially united. The fact they're both islands is irrelevant. It's nationalities that count.
There's nothing opposing about these two propositions.

[arista]

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Yes Andrew
she is Deluded

[arista]

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Yes but wise of Amber
not to stand on the 12th Dec
with such a low win last
2017 General Election
just a few hundred votes.

[arista]

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Yes Emma
over 50 gone
on Thursday Dec the 12th.


We need a change

[Kazanne]

People will vote for who they want to so the mudslinging is pointless , and sometimes the mudslinging can have the opposite affect, people believe the MPs they like and vise versa,all this anger is pointless, what will be,will be

[James]

One is artificially disunited and the other artificially united. The fact they're both islands is irrelevant. It's nationalities that count.
There's nothing opposing about these two propositions.

Well, there's never been a successfully divided island. Just look around the world.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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Look Jeema (Feminist)
in 2010
110 MP's stood down

Never had you going on about them.............................

[arista]

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Yes Easy for you the Left Winger
on LBC
to Get Endless Edits from Politics Live BBC2HD
to sneak on while the Public phone you.

[arista]

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[arista]

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Yes Rush out there Labour
Brexit? No they want to do a New Deal
which is staying in, but being out
Pathetic.

[arista]

Corbyn is Live

Battersea London

[The Slim Reaper]

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Yes Rush out there Labour
Brexit? No they want to do a New Deal
which is staying in, but being out
Pathetic.

Was Johnson pathetic for voting for and against Mays deal, and then getting his own deal that backtracked on the promises both he and May made towards N.I?

C'mon Arista, you know full well what BJ has been up to.

[arista]

Was Johnson pathetic for voting for and against Mays deal, and then getting his own deal that backtracked on the promises both he and May made towards N.I?

C'mon Arista, you know full well what BJ has been up to.


May
Pathetic Women Leader
Big Error putting that Horrid Women
as PM. Wasted 2 Full years or more


Johnson PM
Can be Voted out on the 12th of Dec
Slim
Get in there......................................

[The Slim Reaper]

May
Pathetic Women Leader
Big Error putting that Horrid Women
as PM. Wasted 2 Full years or more


Johnson PM
Can be Voted out on the 12th of Dec
Slim
Get in there......................................

None of that is relevant to the point I just made; you're criticising JC for being honest abut getting a new deal, whilst completely ignoring how Johnson screwed with Mays deal, then he backtracked on a promise to N,I. I agree May wasted 2 years, but her deal was actually better than your hero's deal.

Defend Johnson (if you can).

[arista]

Johnson PM is not my Hero.
Her Deal Delayed it all
His Deal was approved by 27 EU nations
and by Parliament.
But they (Labour /LibDem/SNP ) wanted to ad amendments
hence why we are now at a General Election
in 6 or 7 weeks time

Corbyn spoke Live
with a backing from youths making Loud whistling noises
ideal for you , I guess.

[arista]

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There you go Slim..............

[The Slim Reaper]

Johnson PM is not my Hero.
Her Deal Delayed it all
His Deal was approved by 27 EU nations
and by Parliament.
But they (Labour /LibDem/SNP ) wanted to ad amendments
hence why we are now at a General Election
in 6 or 7 weeks time

Corbyn spoke Live
with a backing from youths making Loud whistling noises
ideal for you , I guess.

Mays deal would have passed parliament if folks like JRM and BJ who both voted for it, then didn't vote against it. Engineering the failure of that deal to get himself the top job. The fact you still trust the guy and believe he's looking out for anyone except himself and his friends is astounding.

You still can't even say how brexit will be of benefit to anyone.

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There you go Slim..............

You're posting crap from a far right site/twitter account. Do you agree with JC's justice for everyone, or do you agree with Boris' approach to lie about everything? 9 years of austerity, and you don't think we've had enough yet? You think the poorest and least represented in our society deserve a few more years of suffering?

[Twosugars]

Well, there's never been a successfully divided island. Just look around the world.

Hispaniola or Borneo ?

The point is it's ok to have a divided island if you have more than one nationality inhabiting.
I told you it's not about the island but nationalities on it.

[arista]

Mays deal would have passed parliament if folks like JRM and BJ who both voted for it, then didn't vote against it. Engineering the failure of that deal to get himself the top job. The fact you still trust the guy and believe he's looking out for anyone except himself and his friends is astounding.

You still can't even say how brexit will be of benefit to anyone.


No one Cares about May.


Brexit will happen
No One knows
who will benefit.

But it was Voted Democratically

[arista]

You're posting crap from a far right site/twitter account. Do you agree with JC's justice for everyone, or do you agree with Boris' approach to lie about everything? 9 years of austerity, and you don't think we've had enough yet? You think the poorest and least represented in our society deserve a few more years of suffering?

Look
Its Real clip. I post loads of Stuff
even from the Guardian

It was 2010 - 2015 Conserv-LibDem

2015 - Conservative


You can Vote Labour
Dec 12th for Your Corbyn.

Its a Free Country Slim.

[arista]

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For Slim and Twosugars

[James]

Hispaniola or Borneo ?

The point is it's ok to have a divided island if you have more than one nationality inhabiting.
I told you it's not about the island but nationalities on it.

Hispaniola - Haiti is one of the poorest and historically troubled countries in the world.

[Tom4784]

I pity anyone who would 'trust' Boris on issues of the NHS...Or on anything actually.

[Ammi]

Donald Trump has claimed Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn would be "so bad" for the UK ahead of the 12 December general election.

Appearing on LBC Radio with host Nigel Farage, the leader of the Brexit Party, the US president also heaped praise on Prime Minister Boris Johnson as a "fantastic guy".

Mr Trump said: "I have great relationships with many of the leaders, including Boris who's a fantastic man - I think he's the exact right guy for the times.

"I know that you and him will end up doing something that could be terrific - if you and he get together it's [an] unstoppable force.

"Corbyn would be so bad for your country, he'd be so bad, he'd take you in such a bad way.

"He'd take you into such bad places. But your country has tremendous potential, it's a great country."

[Liam-]

Well if that doesn’t prove who the good guy is I don’t know what will, cheers Don

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Boris johnson wrote 2 articles on the eve of the referendum 1) Why i voted to leave the EU, and 2) Why I voted to stay in the EU, and of course he waited to see what actually happened first. This is the principled brexiteer you've put all your hopes and dreams on. A man scked twice for lying, who voted for and against Mays deal, and has been in government and voted for things that have caused the greatest harm to the people of this country. A trump lackey that will never put the needs of the people over his own ego.

[The Slim Reaper]

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By James Melville.

Boris Johnson has introduced the Conservative Party’s general election slogan: “Britain deserves better”.

This is a slogan that to put it mildly, lacks any self awareness. Considering that the Tories have been in power for the past nine years, the multitude of problems faced by Britain have been largely created by the Tory government

The Tories have used a number of ironic slogans at elections that are the diametric opposite of what is actually happening. Remember Theresa May’s 2017 election slogan ‘strong and stable‘ or that the Tories always claim to be the party of economic competence? It is bogus and massively misleading sloganeering.

Despite slashing public services to reduce the national debt, The Tories have in fact, doubled the national debt from £849 billion in 2010 to £1.8 trillion in 2019. Also, for a large part of the Tory era from 2010-2019, the UK was one of the worst performing economies of the G20, with only Greece suffering larger falls in real wages between 2010 and 2018.

Britain now has almost one third of its entire population living in poverty – an increase of 5 million people since the Conservatives took office in 2010. Britain now has over 1 million people receiving emergency food supplies per year.

Following eight years of funding cuts, the number of NHS trusts in financial difficulty increased from 5% in 2010 to over 60% by 2018 – creating an ongoing NHS crisis. Yet since the Conservatives came to power in 2010, the percentage of the NHS budget going to private healthcare providers has doubled.

On Brexit, this is a Tory psychodrama that has spilled over into a national drama. At the 2015 general election, only 1% of the population thought that Britain’s membership of the EU was the priority issue. Yet here we are in 2019, stuck in a 3 year cycle of division and hatred because the Tories unnecessarily unleashed something that wasn’t a priority or a national concern and then failed to deliver a workable solution to Brexit.

Brexit was instigated by internal Tory ideological rivalries that have rumbled on for three decades and shaped by an identity crisis linked to Britain’s imperial past and confusion about Britain’s future role in the world. David Cameron called the 2016 EU referendum to lance the boil of internal feuds within the Conservative Party, but all that it achieved was to make the boil go septic. Britain is now on its third Tory Prime Minister since the EU referendum and still no one really knows what Brexit means and how Brexit can be delivered. All we have is endless jingoism, empty rhetoric and promises that are not delivered.

The Tories like to think of themselves as the born-to-rule party and a ruthless pursuit of power. But that’s all they are concerned about. During their stints in power from 1979 onwards, they have dismantled our industrial heartlands, destroyed hope and prosperity in communities, increased poverty levels, asset stripped our public services and infrastructures and ratcheted up our national debt. Yet, they find ways (through the right-wing media) of manipulating millions of people into voting for them by projecting blame onto the EU or immigrants for problems that they themselves created. Tories say to nurses enduring a 7 year pay freeze that there is “no magic money tree” but still find a forest full of money to lob the DUP £1 billion to keep them in power.

So when we all vote at the general election on December 12th, we need to remember this: Britain does deserve better. Britain deserves better than the Tories.

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[MTVN]

Boris johnson wrote 2 articles on the eve of the referendum 1) Why i voted to leave the EU, and 2) Why I voted to stay in the EU, and of course he waited to see what actually happened first. This is the principled brexiteer you've put all your hopes and dreams on. A man scked twice for lying, who voted for and against Mays deal, and has been in government and voted for things that have caused the greatest harm to the people of this country. A trump lackey that will never put the needs of the people over his own ego.

Boris came out for Leave in February 2016. The vote was in June

[Beso]

This is the best way to go.


Hopefully the remainers/left or whatever you would describe the next losers in the forthcoming election, hopefully they suck it up this time and realise that thiwr voices means **** all in the grand scale of things..

[arista]

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[arista]

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Youngers
getting out of bed....................

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Youngers
getting out of bed....................


Probably still half stoned thinking it was the asdas black Friday xbox deal.

[Twosugars]

300 000 is a good start. We need a big youth vote to counteract the old bigot vote

[arista]

300 000 is a good start. We need a big youth vote to counteract the old bigot vote

Thursday 12 Dec will they all vote?

[Twosugars]

Thursday 12 Dec will they all vote?

Well it is their future so I hope they do.


On a lighter note, heres video of bojo booed at a cambridge hospital, enjoy


https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/video-watch-boris-johnson-booed-17180894

[Beso]

300 000 is a good start. We need a big youth vote to counteract the old bigot vote




Is this the royal we?

[Twosugars]

Bojo is carrying on lying


Among the untruths, top of the list was the false claim that Johnson’s Brexit deal has “passed” parliament when MPs simply voted at second reading to allow it to proceed for further scrutiny. Other claims include the idea that there will be “no checks between Northern Ireland and Great Britain”, when the government has admitted that businesses will have to fill in forms.
He said another lie was the claim that an extension to article 50 would cost
a £1bn a month, when money has to be paid to the EU anyway during the transition period and the costs of no-deal Brexit would be higher.
The Guardian

[Twosugars]

Donald Trump has intervened in the UK’s nascent election campaign, calling on Boris Johnson to team up with Nigel Farage to form an “unstoppable force”


Arseholes united.

[arista]

Twosugars
Check this youngster

Last Night 8PM show
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[arista]

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Way back in 1972
Good Advice from John.

[Twosugars]

Twosugars
Check this youngster

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Corbyn is not in government :laugh:
He talks through his arse. There's always some like that

[bots]

Corbyn has promised to resolve the brexit issue in 6 months. Interesting statement given we have a 3 month extension and no guarantee it will be extended further :laugh:

[Cherie]

300 000 is a good start. We need a big youth vote to counteract the old bigot vote

Plenty young bigots out there as well, don’t be fooled

[Cherie]

Twosugars
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Oh dear

[Ammi]

Twosugars
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...sadly, I think that Brexit is going to be at the fore front of voting decisions...and NHS concerns will not factor so much for many...

[bots]

i think the observation that social media is giving voice to the extremes and giving them too much attention is correct. A moderate message is just not news worthy any more. What a sad state of affairs

[Ammi]

...well I guess that it could be said that we screwed the younger generation over in the referendum...we had the nice things but they can’t have them...so now they’re going to get their revenge and screw us over by taking away the NHS...all’s fair in politics I guess...

[Cherie]

...well I guess that it could be said that we screwed the younger generation over in the referendum...we had the nice things but they can’t have them...so now they’re going to get their revenge and screw us over by taking away the NHS...all’s fair in politics I guess...

what? that makes no sense at all, everyone who was eligible had a vote in the referendum, the fact that many didn't use it isn't anyone fault but their own, no body screwed anyone over, we all had one vote to use, remain was supposed to win, the young need the NHS as much as anyone else...we have hospitals that only treat children after all?

[Kazanne]

This rubbish about the Torys selling the NHS to Trump , is a load of old bollox designed to scupper a Tory win , it would be political suicide for them to do so ,plus aren't some parts of the NHS already in US hands ?

[Kazanne]

what? that makes no sense at all, everyone who was eligible had a vote in the referendum, the fact that many didn't use it isn't anyone fault but their own, no body screwed anyone over, we all had one vote to use, remain was supposed to win, the young need the NHS as much as anyone else...we have hospitals that only treat children after all?

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[The Slim Reaper]

This rubbish about the Torys selling the NHS to Trump , is a load of old bollox designed to scupper a Tory win , it would be political suicide for them to do so ,plus aren't some parts of the NHS already in US hands ?

Considering the fact the tories have decimated the NHS and all public services in their 9 years in power, and voters like yourself don't believe it's enough of an issue to hold them to account, how difficult do you think it would be for them to do anything they like without tory voters even caring?

When Brexit happens with Johnsons deal, we'll then face 5-10 years of European trade negotiations. The economy will shrink, and people will lose their jobs.

BJ will be desperate to provide some good news, so a trade deal with the US will be the only way for him to do this. The US won't do a deal with us unless they get access to our crown jewel. They've already started selling it off and who exactly is rioting about it? By the time people finally wake up, it will be too late.

[Kazanne]

Considering the fact the tories have decimated the NHS and all public services in their 9 years in power, and voters like yourself don't believe it's enough of an issue to hold them to account, how difficult do you think it would be for them to do anything they like without tory voters even caring?

When Brexit happens with Johnsons deal, we'll then face 5-10 years of European trade negotiations. The economy will shrink, and people will lose their jobs.

BJ will be desperate to provide some good news, so a trade deal with the US will be the only way for him to do this. The US won't do a deal with us unless they get access to our crown jewel. They've already started selling it off and who exactly is rioting about it? By the time people finally wake up, it will be too late.

I dont believe the NHS will be sold Slim, Now i know you'll say they are liars,but aren't they all ? so people will go with who they think will do the best for the country and at this point although they are all dodgy, I think Boris Johnson will at least keep the NHS , afterall ,could you imagine the backlash the Tories would get if they did that, even by their own supporters
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[The Slim Reaper]

I dont believe the NHS will be sold Slim, Now i know you'll say they are liars,but aren't they all ? so people will go with who they think will do the best for the country and at this point although they are all dodgy, I think Boris Johnson will at least keep the NHS , afterall ,could you imagine the backlash the Tories would get if they did that, even by their own supporters
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That's fine, but the tories have already sold bits of it off, so you can chose to believe it or not, but the facts just don't lie.

Boris Johnson has been part of the party that has destroyed the NHS. It's not immigrants that have done the damage, it's austerity. It's a free country, and you're free to vote anyway you like, but not sure I understand the logic in trusting the party that decimated the NHS with a few more years to finish the job.

This is Boris Johnsons most trusted advisor, Dominic cummings

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[arista]

There you go Slim
A Labour MP up for a fight
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[Twosugars]

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[Twosugars]

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[bots]

i keep having to say this, but i will say it again as so many seem to ignore it. It was labour that has privatised the NHS the most under Tony Blair. The NHS couldn't function unless it contracted out many of its services.

Also, the NHS uses generic drugs where possible, so they are out of patent by the major drugs companies when the NHS buys drugs. Also, the pharmaceutical companies have a world wide presence already. They are the same ones in the UK as they are in the USA. Drug prices are set by geographical region, not by trade deals. Look at Canada as a prime example, it has a trade deal with the USA but its drug prices are significantly lower than in the USA because it is a different drug pricing region.

Those are the facts. American companies can already tender for NHS work in areas that are contracted out. It stuns me how much misinformation there is out there regarding the NHS

[arista]

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Yes Conservatives Ban Fracking
Vote help

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And Old Singer
get a medical test to find out

[arista]

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[Ammi]

..I have to say that Boris visited a local primary school to me this week and took part in a lesson with the children...having spoken to some of the parents..(..and children..)..that I know from that school, he was really engaging ...obviously, the children aren’t at voting age, but the parents are...and I felt a huge positivity for him....Jeremy Corbyn will really need to step up his game in the hope of a win, if this is the pace that Boris will be adopting...

[arista]

..I have to say that Boris visited a local primary school to me this week and took part in a lesson with the children...having spoken to some of the parents..(..and children..)..that I know from that school, he was really engaging ...obviously, the children aren’t at voting age, but the parents are...and I felt a huge positivity for him....Jeremy Corbyn will really need to step up his game in the hope of a win, if this is the pace that Boris will be adopting...


Yes he was on TV news sitting in a small chair
at a small table,
one child asked if he ran the world?
he said just this country.
As PM he is far better than
that reserved former PM May.

[Ammi]

...(...he sat in a big boy’s chair, Arista...not a small chair..:laugh:...I’m not sure that a smaller chair would have coped with his weight ...and then he might have had to increase that school budget to cover the breakage costs...)...

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/11/01/21/20493642-0-image-a-62_1572644599584.jpg

Students Corrupt - As EVER
even telling other students how to be corrupt

Reported in the Papers today

[bots]

Corbyn has a basic problem, he is not a likeable person, neither was May, not their fault particularly, but Corbyn doesn't help himself. Boris has been perfecting his act for decades, and it really doesn't matter if he lies or talks bollocks if people like him

[Kazanne]

i keep having to say this, but i will say it again as so many seem to ignore it. It was labour that has privatised the NHS the most under Tony Blair. The NHS couldn't function unless it contracted out many of its services.

Also, the NHS uses generic drugs where possible, so they are out of patent by the major drugs companies when the NHS buys drugs. Also, the pharmaceutical companies have a world wide presence already. They are the same ones in the UK as they are in the USA. Drug prices are set by geographical region, not by trade deals. Look at Canada as a prime example, it has a trade deal with the USA but its drug prices are significantly lower than in the USA because it is a different drug pricing region.

Those are the facts. American companies can already tender for NHS work in areas that are contracted out. It stuns me how much misinformation there is out there regarding the NHS

:clap1::clap1:Thanks for those facts Bots,interesting read.:wavey:

[smudgie]

i keep having to say this, but i will say it again as so many seem to ignore it. It was labour that has privatised the NHS the most under Tony Blair. The NHS couldn't function unless it contracted out many of its services.

Also, the NHS uses generic drugs where possible, so they are out of patent by the major drugs companies when the NHS buys drugs. Also, the pharmaceutical companies have a world wide presence already. They are the same ones in the UK as they are in the USA. Drug prices are set by geographical region, not by trade deals. Look at Canada as a prime example, it has a trade deal with the USA but its drug prices are significantly lower than in the USA because it is a different drug pricing region.

Those are the facts. American companies can already tender for NHS work in areas that are contracted out. It stuns me how much misinformation there is out there regarding the NHS

Don’t let the truth get in the way of the propaganda bots.
No secret about the meetings between Britain and the US drug companies, we managed a better deal for the Systic Fibrosis drug than Scotland did in the end.
If and when our own pharmaceutical companies can make all the medication we need then by all means buy British.

[arista]

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Thank you Adam Bolton for that Fact Check

[user104658]

i keep having to say this, but i will say it again as so many seem to ignore it. It was labour that has privatised the NHS the most under Tony Blair. The NHS couldn't function unless it contracted out many of its services.



Also, the NHS uses generic drugs where possible, so they are out of patent by the major drugs companies when the NHS buys drugs. Also, the pharmaceutical companies have a world wide presence already. They are the same ones in the UK as they are in the USA. Drug prices are set by geographical region, not by trade deals. Look at Canada as a prime example, it has a trade deal with the USA but its drug prices are significantly lower than in the USA because it is a different drug pricing region.



Those are the facts. American companies can already tender for NHS work in areas that are contracted out. It stuns me how much misinformation there is out there regarding the NHSDrug prices are sky high in the US specifically because of the insurance model and insurance adjustments; its a complicated (and ****ing stupid) system so the fear, really, is more that specific deals with Big Pharma will push Britain towards a private health insurance model, which would completely alter drug pricing.

And yes, the ball started rolling under New Labour but as I've said a hundred times before on this forum: In huge parts of economic policy, Blair was a neoliberal Thatcherite. Pointing out that "it was Blair!" is meaningless, he was more of a Tory than Major.

[arista]

"And yes, the ball started rolling under New Labour "

Yes The Buggers

[Ammi]

Downing Street has been accused of telling "whopping untruths" over the publication of a report into the threat posed by Russia to the UK's democratic processes...


https://news.sky.com/story/russia-threat-report-no-10-accused-of-telling-whopping-untruths-11851834

[Liam-]

Colour me shocked!

[Kazanne]

Theres going to be lots of digging the dirt on others to get votes, personally I will go with my own instincts, I cant take any of the press seriously , they all have different agendas and as for the Tories changing their minds about fracking, so what , maybe more is known about it now , and Corbyn cant really harp on about U Turns considering he was once keen to get out of the EU.

[arista]

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Yes Corbyn wants all homes
insulated and not wasting warm heart.
That would take more than 5 years.....................................

Tweeted by Paul Mason (Labour Activist)
"It's happening. A mainstream party has finally and irrevocably
ditched the dream of a market led transition beyond carbon "

With a Labour Fast Video
making amazing promises that can not all come true?

[arista]

Johnson PM
on Ridge (SkyNewsHD)
Recorded 2 days ago,
would like to put Brexit through the EU
this year - assuming he has won the General Election?

Well done Sophie Ridge
for telling him off,
about 10 year Hospital Fund Plans
which goes beyond the Next General Election?

[arista]

Margot James
Digital Minister
Conservative MP
is standing down on the Dec 12th Election.

She was on Ian Deal LBC Live (Sundays 10AM)
and said although her Whip was given back
to her , her local constituency was not so friendly.................

[arista]

1190916907739832320

Sophie Ridge - he did not say he would rule out the
Next SNP Indy2

Shout At Him......................

[arista]

1190921178413780993

Yes Nigel does not want to Stand as a MP
Clever as he is far to busy all over the UK....................


Massive Rally Time...

[The Slim Reaper]

1190839456267472896


Yes Corbyn wants all homes
insulated and not wasting warm heart.
That would take more than 5 years.....................................

Tweeted by Paul Mason (Labour Activist)
"It's happening. A mainstream party has finally and irrevocably
ditched the dream of a market led transition beyond carbon "

With a Labour Fast Video
making amazing promises that can not all come true?

5 years isn't anywhere near as long as it would take to negotiate a deal with the EU.

[Twosugars]

Bojo - trump's bitch dead in a ditch

[The Slim Reaper]

For Kaz.

1190910534968844288

[arista]

5 years isn't anywhere near as long as it would take to negotiate a deal with the EU.


Labour do not agree with such over long forecast
and I am talking about Labour's
New Housing Green Deal

[user104658]

1190916907739832320

Sophie Ridge - he did not say he would rule out the
Next SNP Indy2

Shout At Him......................He's in a tough position in that one. How can he justify "not allowing" Scotland to have a vote on independence, whilst similtaneously insisting that the British vote on Brexit is binding and must be adhered to. You either believe in giving the public that choice or you don't.

[arista]

He's in a tough position in that one. How can he justify "not allowing" Scotland to have a vote on independence, whilst similtaneously insisting that the British vote on Brexit is binding and must be adhered to. You either believe in giving the public that choice or you don't.


Well Labour has Confirmed
you lot
can have Another Referendum

[Twosugars]

The Daily Telegraph has been forced to correct a column written by Boris Johnson, after he falsely claimed the UK is set to “become the largest and most prosperous economy in this hemisphere”.

The newspaper said that Johnson misrepresented long-term economic projections to give the impression that the British economy would overtake Germany “in our lifetimes” – despite no such data existing.
The Guardian

Lying clown at it again :laugh:

[arista]

The Daily Telegraph has been forced to correct a column written by Boris Johnson, after he falsely claimed the UK is set to “become the largest and most prosperous economy in this hemisphere”.

The newspaper said that Johnson misrepresented long-term economic projections to give the impression that the British economy would overtake Germany “in our lifetimes” – despite no such data existing.
The Guardian

Lying clown at it again :laugh:

How Nice

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIbwHW8WoAAg8iO?format=jpg&name=small
Can This nice 70 year old
beat Johnson PM?


He Claims to be able to Insulate
Every UK Home
to his New Green Deal Standard,
no cost at all to the home owner.

[The Slim Reaper]

Labour do not agree with such over long forecast
and I am talking about Labour's
New Housing Green Deal

You wrote "That would take more than 5 years....................................." As though it was a waste of time, so I just highlighted the fact you're advocating for a brexit that will make us poorer and take longer to negotiate a deal. You can't say that 5 years is bad when it comes to insulating homes in the UK, but then say us being without an EU trade deal for way longer is a good thing.

Arista Swinson

[Twosugars]

How Nice

It may be your cup of tea to have a compulsive liar for a PM, but no, it's not nice for the country.

[arista]

You wrote "That would take more than 5 years....................................." As though it was a waste of time, so I just highlighted the fact you're advocating for a brexit that will make us poorer and take longer to negotiate a deal. You can't say that 5 years is bad when it comes to insulating homes in the UK, but then say us being without an EU trade deal for way longer is a good thing.




Correct its a 10 year or more Job
to insulate Every UK Home

[arista]

It may be your cup of tea to have a compulsive liar for a PM, but no, it's not nice for the country.

Well then the Nice 70 Year old will Win

[arista]

1190907884965711872


And


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIchQ24XUAAkZwD?format=png&name=small

[Twosugars]

Well then the Nice 70 Year old will Win

Trump is older and you're a fan.
So what's your problem? Selective ageism?

[arista]

Trump is older and you're a fan.
So what's your problem? Selective ageism?



I am just stating his age
nothing wrong with that.

[Twosugars]

I am just stating his age
nothing wrong with that.

:suspect:



Yes we should elect him to sort out tax dodging and all those money men who screw up things through their greed, award themselves bonuses and make us pay for their ****ing mistakes
Sort those leeches out!

[Twosugars]

A Conservative general election candidate in a key marginal seat wrote on social media that she believed people on the reality TV show Benefits Street needed “putting down”.

Francesca O’Brien, who was selected last month to stand in the target constituency of Gower, in south Wales, wrote a series of inflammatory comments about the Channel 4 programme on her Facebook page.

In posts that have since been deleted, she wrote in January 2014: “Benefit Street..anyone else watching this?? Wow, these people are unreal!!!”

In response to a friend’s comment, she wrote: “My blood is boiling, these people need putting down.”

In further comments under her post, O’Brien apparently endorsed a friend’s suggestion for “twat a tramp Tuesday” to “take your batts [sic] to the streets”.
The Guardian

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

A Conservative general election candidate in a key marginal seat wrote on social media that she believed people on the reality TV show Benefits Street needed “putting down”.

Francesca O’Brien, who was selected last month to stand in the target constituency of Gower, in south Wales, wrote a series of inflammatory comments about the Channel 4 programme on her Facebook page.

In posts that have since been deleted, she wrote in January 2014: “Benefit Street..anyone else watching this?? Wow, these people are unreal!!!”

In response to a friend’s comment, she wrote: “My blood is boiling, these people need putting down.”

In further comments under her post, O’Brien apparently endorsed a friend’s suggestion for “twat a tramp Tuesday” to “take your batts [sic] to the streets”.
The Guardian

Oh no, I bet she also called someone a nasty poopy head! !

[Twosugars]

1191031811138367493

Nadine :laugh:
That woman is a loon

[Liam-]

Oh no, I bet she also called someone a nasty poopy head! !

Aye, cause that’s pretty similar to saying poor people need putting down

[arista]

Nadine :laugh:
That woman is a loon


Sure But check the Video

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/E3E5/production/_109514385_db9e5cc0-7886-458f-96d5-02d002464d48.jpg

Vs

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/10AF5/production/_109514386_express.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/81D9/production/_109514233_guardian.jpg

The Labour Leader
taking Control.

[Twosugars]

Donald Trump has waded into British politics again, addressing the key question facing pro-leave right-wingers in the forthcoming general election.
The president said he hoped prime minister Boris Johnson, a “wonderful guy”, and Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage would come together on a united political platform.

That orange turd likes nothing better than election interference. Hope the impeachment shuts him up for good.

[arista]

Don't politicise health service - NHS boss (Chris Hopson )
says

[Parties should not use the NHS
as "a political weapon"
in the election campaign, health service bosses say.
NHS Providers chief Chris Hopson
said "over dramatising NHS difficulties" or making
"disingenuous" funding claims did
the service "no favours".
Mr Hopson acts for health trust leaders
in England and urged politicians not
to make "empty promises" or create
"unrealistic expectations".
The NHS is set to become a
key battleground during the campaign.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50282333

[arista]

[Scottish Conservative MP Ross Thomson quits
after 'grope' claim by Labour MP Paul Sweeney
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/101C6/production/_109509956_gettyimages-684609002.jpg

[MP Ross Thomson is to stand down
after being accused of sexually assaulting
a Labour MP in a Commons bar.
Mr Thomson said he had made the
"hardest decision of my life" not to
contest the seat for Aberdeen South
at the general election.

Labour MP Paul Sweeney had said he
reported Mr Thomson to Westminster's
standards watchdog following the
alleged incident last October.

Mr Thomson denies any wrongdoing.
But he said a number of
"anonymous and malicious allegations"
this year had made his life "a living hell".]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50280977

Labour MP Paul Sweeney
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Paul_Sweeney_MP_-_official_photo_2017.jpg/220px-Paul_Sweeney_MP_-_official_photo_2017.jpg

[arista]

1191112375354712064

Bugger another Labour Top MP Richard Burgon
Lies

[Grim Reaper]

Well folks there is a quite massive spanner possibly about to be dropped in the election machinery that nobody seems to have noticed...Royal Mail Posties have massively voted for and are likely to be executing a national strike just at the crucial time so good luck with delivering all their electioneering crap..and as for postal voting!! C'mon me brothers! :fist:

[Nicky91]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2019/election

Huw Edwards to lead BBC's Election 2019 coverage

[Brother Leon]

1191112375354712064

Bugger another Labour Top MP Richard Burgon
Lies

Zionism is evil colonialism and has been the cause of so much bloodshed. Hating the idea of Zionism is nothing to do with hating On the Jewish faith or people. It’s becoming increasingly frustrating where if you even dare to slightly disagree with the actions of Israel in anyway you must be Anti Semitic.

[Twosugars]

Downing Street has effectively blocked the publication of a potentially explosive parliamentary report on the security threat that Russia poses to the UK until after the general election.

The 50-page document from the intelligence and security committee (ISC) examines allegations that Kremlin-sponsored activity distorted the result of the 2016 EU referendum, but has to be cleared by No 10 before it can be released.
The Guardian



Hiding leave campaign links to Putin until later. Traitors

[Kizzy]

I hope this is the beginning of the unravelling of the Tories and their corruption. .. The british sense if fair play will not tolerate that, which is why they're fighting tooth and nail to keep it covert.
They'll lose, the truth will out, it always does.

[Tom4784]

Downing Street has effectively blocked the publication of a potentially explosive parliamentary report on the security threat that Russia poses to the UK until after the general election.

The 50-page document from the intelligence and security committee (ISC) examines allegations that Kremlin-sponsored activity distorted the result of the 2016 EU referendum, but has to be cleared by No 10 before it can be released.
The Guardian



Hiding leave campaign links to Putin until later. Traitors

The Right Wing will always cover itself before it does it's duty, if ever.

[bots]

it's far more widespread than the right wing, and it is very worrying. There is plenty evidence out there of russian interference and the details are being blocked or suppressed. There is clear evidence that the SNP has been compromised by russia too and no-one does a thing

[user104658]

Well folks there is a quite massive spanner possibly about to be dropped in the election machinery that nobody seems to have noticed...Royal Mail Posties have massively voted for and are likely to be executing a national strike just at the crucial time so good luck with delivering all their electioneering crap..and as for postal voting!! C'mon me brothers! :fist:

Don't know what it's like elsewhere, but around here the electioneering propaganda doesn't come with the postman, it's usually hand-delivered by party volunteers for each party. Though it's very rare to get anything at all from anyone except SNP and Conservative... that's the only real battle in my area. I think Labour have conceeded that the bulk of the classic Labour vote has now transitioned to SNP.

[arista]

1191407002011893764

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIjAUS1WkAAGQuN?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Twosugars]

Boris Johnson criticised for selective quotes about NHS in letter to voters
PM wrongly implied medical experts were fully supportive of government policy
The Guardian


Lying clown is lying again!

[Twosugars]

Fresh evidence has also emerged of attempts by the Kremlin to infiltrate the Conservatives by a senior Russian diplomat suspected of espionage, who spent five years in London cultivating leading Tories including Johnson himself.
The Guardian

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/7iNFJf-cAKKq9OG46a6xTg/https/media.fyre.co/m8NGFIn7R6ugY2z7YOmQ_times.PNG

[Beso]

Nicola sturgeon mouthing off about Boris suckling up to trump, forgetting the only UK country he has managed to wangle a golf course out off and a private landing area for himself is in fact her bonnie wee scotland..

[The Slim Reaper]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/7iNFJf-cAKKq9OG46a6xTg/https/media.fyre.co/m8NGFIn7R6ugY2z7YOmQ_times.PNG

Brexit is going to cost £70b.

[The Slim Reaper]

1191647608697212928

[user104658]

Surely it's worth pointing out that most full-time 9-5 jobs only pay 35 hours (sometimes 37.5 hrs) already? Hardly anywhere pays lunch break these days so 8 hour days x 5 days rarely pay 40 hours...

I wonder if the idea of a 32 hour work week is based on 4 days 9-5 but making the lunch break paid?

I personally think unpaid breaks are ridiculous in many ways anyway, everyone working a full day should be entitled to a PAID break.

As things stand though, I can't see how a 4 day working week translates to 32 hours. It would be 28 hours or 30 hours, depending on if lunch break is 30 mins or an hour.

[arista]

Brexit is going to cost £70b.


Over how many years ?

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EImm41aW4AEd12S?format=jpg&name=small

She is Live
all media and Radio 5
Not LBC.

[The Slim Reaper]

Over how many years ?

Every year with Johnson's deal.

[Nicky91]

brexit has already cost britain lots of money, lots of chaos too

2016 referendum to leave EU, 3 yrs later came close to leaving on october 31st, didn't happen

what a joke (but not surprising, you Always get chaos if there is divide) :laugh:

[Beso]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EImm41aW4AEd12S?format=jpg&name=small

She is Live
all media and Radio 5
Not LBC.


I thought shed be busy making suspicious packages!

[arista]

Every year with Johnson's deal.


So 10 years then?

[The Slim Reaper]

So 10 years then?


That would be £700 billion over 10 years.

[arista]

Corbyn is Live now in Harlow

BBCNewsHD
SkyNewsHD

[arista]

I thought shed be busy making suspicious packages!


Yes they say they got a Package with fake powder in it.

[Twosugars]

Boris Johnson was on Monday night accused of presiding over a cover-up after it emerged that No 10 refused to clear the publication of a potentially incendiary report examining Russian infiltration in British politics, including the Conservative party
The Guardian

[arista]

Boris Johnson was on Monday night accused of presiding over a cover-up after it emerged that No 10 refused to clear the publication of a potentially incendiary report examining Russian infiltration in British politics, including the Conservative party
The Guardian

Yes Accused
but nothing is going to go public
at a Election
of course............................................ .......

[Tom4784]

Yes Accused
but nothing is going to go public
at a Election
of course............................................ .......

Downplaying an act of covering up a report that could inform the voting public about how the election could be corrupted by outside forces?

Why are you valuing a party over protecting the sanctity of your own vote?

[arista]

Downplaying an act of covering up a report that could inform the voting public about how the election could be corrupted by outside forces?

Why are you valuing a party over protecting the sanctity of your own vote?


Just stating the Facts...............

[arista]

1191661118063861760

[The Slim Reaper]

Downplaying an act of covering up a report that could inform the voting public about how the election could be corrupted by outside forces?

Why are you valuing a party over protecting the sanctity of your own vote?

Same reason he stopped talking when I told him johnsons deal is £70b per year. Facts are meaningless when it disproves wish fulfillment.

[arista]

Same reason he stopped talking when I told him johnsons deal is £70b per year. Facts are meaningless when it disproves wish fulfillment.


Thats not a Fact.

[The Slim Reaper]

Thats not a Fact.

It's what the National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) are claiming (it's the best, non-partisan guesstimate we have) . You won't even acknowledge that it's impossible for us to get a deal as good as staying in the EU.

Let's say that it was an absolute fact that even Johnson agreed with, would you then be against brexit?

[arista]

(non-partisan guesstimate we have)

Yes assumption a "Guess"


You keep them
they are Not Facts.

[The Slim Reaper]

(non-partisan guesstimate we have)

Yes assumption a "Guess"


You keep them
they are Not Facts.

While you post the guesstimate costings of everything labour want to do. So if everyone agreed it would cost £70b/yr, would you then be anti-brexit? You didn't answer the question.

[arista]

While you post the guesstimate costings of everything labour want to do. So if everyone agreed it would cost £70b/yr, would you then be anti-brexit? You didn't answer the question.


No
as it not Facts
its a Guess
for Folks like you

[The Slim Reaper]

No
as it not Facts
its a Guess
for Folks like you

We're talking hypothetically though. Tomorrow evening on sky news HD, BJ comes out and says it's a 100% fact that brexit will cost £70b each year, would you still support brexit?

[arista]

We're talking hypothetically though. Tomorrow evening on sky news HD, BJ comes out and says it's a 100% fact that Brexit will cost £70b each year, would you still support Brexit?


Fake Data
keep it for yourself

Stop playing What if?
games

[Twosugars]

We're talking hypothetically though. Tomorrow evening on sky news HD, BJ comes out and says it's a 100% fact that brexit will cost £70b each year, would you still support brexit?

I feel non-HD news channels are being discriminated against :hmph:

[arista]

I feel non-HD news channels are being discriminated against :hmph:


Yes VirginHD (owned by USA Libertyglobal)
still do not have CNN HD
SkyHD (owned by USA Comcast /NBC) does

[Tom4784]

Fake Data
keep it for yourself

Stop playing What if?
games

Why can't you answer a very simple question? Is it because you know you're being hypocritical and don't want to admit it?

[arista]

Why can't you answer a very simple question? Is it because you know you're being hypocritical and don't want to admit it?


Dezzy
What is YOUR Question?

[arista]

Phillip Hammond Former Conservative MP
is now standing down on the 12th December.

BBCnewsHD

[Twosugars]

Phillip Hammond Conservative MP
is now standing down on the 12th December.

BBCnewsHD
Correction
Independent mp, former conservative
Forced out by the party's lurch to hard right

[arista]

1191686313461846016

[The Slim Reaper]

Can you name a single thing outside of a hard brexit, that the conservative party want to achieve in the next parliament?

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIMMyihWsAE2sl3?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

Can you name a single thing outside of a hard brexit, that the conservative party want to achieve in the next parliament?


After 12 Dec
it could be Corbyn.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIjwE2YXUAEn1JG?format=jpg&name=small

Sorry you are Deluded Lady

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIgJe07UUAMOn-S?format=jpg&name=small

[Beso]

Can you name a single thing outside of a hard brexit, that the conservative party want to achieve in the next parliament?

Nothing....

But remember the note?

"There is no money left"


Oh..imagine if the cons are trying to lose this election....labour get in..

A wee note......"there is no uk left"









Please God, if you are out thier letting us contact you via social media......please let that happen.:dance:

[Twosugars]

Conservative candidates in the general election will be told not to sign up to specific pledges on protecting the NHS from privatisation and trade deals or tackling climate change, according to a leaked internal document from party headquarters.

The 11-page briefing note explains the party’s position on nine key areas and “strongly advises” prospective Tory MPs “against signing up to any pledges” unless they have been agreed from the centre.

However, supporting shooting is allowed “as an important part of rural life”, the document says.
The Guardian


Scumbags

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/ym7F7saBQ_UR12LCfMiQSg/https/media.fyre.co/3kNXFz3T0aQCPYBJ9c5Z_tele.PNG

[Kizzy]

When 'the profit motive' is exploitation and/or corruption then what's wrong with pointing fingers?... we should all be pointing fingers!

[arista]

The Election is is now Officially on
Thursday 12th of Dec.

Johnson PM has been to the Queen
he is Up North later this evening.

[arista]

When 'the profit motive' is exploitation and/or corruption then what's wrong with pointing fingers?... we should all be pointing fingers!


Labour MP Russell-Moyle
is doing more than just pointing fingers
he has stated Billionaires must be Banned?

[arista]

Alun Cairns resigns as Welsh secretary
following collapsed rape trial claims

https://news.sky.com/story/alun-cairns-resigns-as-welsh-secretary-following-collapsed-rape-trial-claims-11855613

Another mess of a MP
has had to Resign

[The Slim Reaper]

Nothing....

But remember the note?

"There is no money left"


Oh..imagine if the cons are trying to lose this election....labour get in..

A wee note......"there is no uk left"









Please God, if you are out thier letting us contact you via social media......please let that happen.:dance:

That note wasn't like you suggest; it was the kind of note the differing parties had been leaving each other dating back decades, and was also on the back of the financial crises where money was pumped into saving the banks. He should have known better than to trust the tories LD's to not use that note as a political tool in the way they did for 5 years.

Are you saying that you don't want there to be a UK anymore?

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIrnN-XWoAEodMz?format=jpg&name=small

A Bus for the one who can Not be PM.....................

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

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Yes that MP was not booked on her AM show.
He was in the next Westminster studio
for Talk Radio AM Show.


He never pulled out of her show
he was not booked................

[The Slim Reaper]

Labour MP Russell-Moyle
is doing more than just pointing fingers
he has stated Billionaires must be Banned?

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Tories lie

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes that MP was not booked on her AM show.
He was in the next Westminster studio
for Talk Radio AM Show.


He never pulled out of her show
he was not booked................

Kay Burley made it up then, when she said they had assured her he would be appearing?

[arista]

Labour Leader
Claims he will in 5 years get rid of all Food Banks?

Hell of claim.

[Cherie]

There isnt a cat in hells chance I can vote for Jo Swinson, she is very irritating to listen to

[arista]

Kay Burley made it up then, when she said they had assured her he would be appearing?

During her Commercial break
she went over to that MP demanding
he comes on her new show.


Yes Burley did not tell the truth
that MP was Not booked on her AM show.

[arista]

There isnt a cat in hells chance I can vote for Jo Swinson, she is very irritating to listen to


She will not be PM,
its all in the numbers.

[The Slim Reaper]

During her Commercial break
she went over to that MP demanding
he comes on her new show.


Yes Burley did not tell the truth
that MP was Not booked on her AM show.

Got some more info on that?

[Liam-]

Cleverly agreed to do her show an didn’t bother to show up, but of course Tories are saying that he was on a radio show the exact same time he was meant to be with Kay, but that’s another lie, as he wasn’t on the radio for another half an hour after the Kay interview was meant to happen, proven by the fact he talked about the empty chair fiasco on the radio show, don’t regurgitate Tory propaganda when it’s blatantly false

[arista]

got some more info on that?


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[The Slim Reaper]

There isnt a cat in hells chance I can vote for Jo Swinson, she is very irritating to listen to

Cherie Corbyn, let's do this.

[The Slim Reaper]

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Have you got a non right wing site with that information?

[arista]

Have you got a non right wing site with that information?

Truth matters (Left or Right) You Got YOUR Facts WRONG - Again, Slim.


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[arista]

Cleverly agreed to do her show an didn’t bother to show up, but of course Tories are saying that he was on a radio show the exact same time he was meant to be with Kay, but that’s another lie, as he wasn’t on the radio for another half an hour after the Kay interview was meant to happen, proven by the fact he talked about the empty chair fiasco on the radio show, don’t regurgitate Tory propaganda when it’s blatantly false


Wrong

[The Slim Reaper]

Truth matters (Left or Right) You Got YOUR Facts WRONG - Again, Slim.


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If I've got my facts wrong, I'll admit it. I'm just looking to find a non partisan verification on Kay Burley. I mean, it's not much of a stretch to think he may have ditched when he had the opportunity to go on a friendly show with JHB who has doxxed the QC trying to prevent BJ's government not abiding by the benn act.

[arista]

If I've got my facts wrong, I'll admit it. I'm just looking to find a non partisan verification on Kay Burley. I mean, it's not much of a stretch to think he may have ditched when he had the opportunity to go on a friendly show with JHB who has doxxed the QC trying to prevent BJ's government not abiding by the benn act.


Play it
That MP SPEAKS


You got your Facts Wrong Slim.

[Cherie]

Cherie Corbyn, let's do this.

:worry:

[bots]

the quality of news sources on this thread is beyond stupid

[Liam-]

Wrong


No, you want it to be wrong

[arista]

the quality of news sources on this thread is beyond stupid

No Slim reads a Tweet - And Says it True, He is Wrong


That MP speaks the truth on this tweet
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[arista]

No, you want it to be wrong


Bugger all to do with me


Truth - That MP speaks
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[The Slim Reaper]

No Slim reads a Tweet - And Says it True,


That MP speaks the truth on this tweet
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You keep missing the point. There is nothing to suggest he didn't just ditch KB at the last minute for a friendly interview with JHB. IF he didn't then I'll say he didn't, but at the moment I don't know that.

[The Slim Reaper]

the quality of news sources on this thread is beyond stupid

I've used Channel 4, sky (HD for arista), and BBC on the last few pages. Are they stupid? What news sources are ok for you?

Everybody gather round, bots is about to tell us all what we can and can't post.

[arista]

You keep missing the point. There is nothing to suggest he didn't just ditch KB at the last minute for a friendly interview with JHB. IF he didn't then I'll say he didn't, but at the moment I don't know that.


I assume you heard that MP speak
on that tweet?


I missing no points

[Liam-]

Bugger all to do with me


Truth - That MP speaks
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That’s purely Tory spin and you know it, he spoke about the incident on the radio show, he wouldn’t have known it was happening at the exact moment it happened if he was busy with the radio, so the truth is that he appeared on the radio show after he ditched Kay Burley

[The Slim Reaper]

That’s purely Tory spin and you know it, he spoke about the incident on the radio show, he wouldn’t have known it was happening at the exact moment it happened if he was busy with the radio, so the truth is that he appeared on the radio show after he ditched Kay Burley

Exactly. I'm not saying Arista is wrong - I just don't know, so I'd like a non right wing sauce to back it up. I don't even like KB, so if she was lying about it, or she had a misunderstanding, then that's absolutely nothing that would affect me in any way. JHB has a history of acting in bad faith, and flatout making BS up, so an independent sauce is all I'm seeking.

[arista]

That’s purely Tory spin and you know it, he spoke about the incident on the radio show, he wouldn’t have known it was happening at the exact moment it happened if he was busy with the radio, so the truth is that he appeared on the radio show after he ditched Kay Burley


Thats Wrong
He had just done BBC1 and GMBHD itv
next was Talk Radio Live

If he was booked SkyNewsHD Burley
and her Producer
must show the proof
and she has NOT

[arista]

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[bots]

Three former Labour MPs - including Jeremy Corbyn ally Chris Williamson - have been banned from standing by the party's National Executive Committee.

Mr Williamson, who represented Derby North, was suspended in an anti-Semitism row.

Stephen Hepburn, ex-MP for Jarrow, was being investigated over a sexual harassment claim, denied by him, while Roger Godsiff was facing a reselection battle in Birmingham Hall Green.

New candidates will be chosen instead.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50319044

[Twosugars]

I've used Channel 4, sky (HD for arista), and BBC on the last few pages. Are they stupid? What news sources are ok for you?

Everybody gather round, bots is about to tell us all what we can and can't post.

:laugh:

And HD is a must, the lies are more visible :hee:

[arista]

[NEW: YouGov / Sky News poll

Tory lead down 2 percentage points to 11

Con 36 (-2 since 1-4 Nov)
Lab 25 (nc)
Lib Dem 17 (+1)
Brexit Party 11 (nc)
SNP 4 (-)
Plaid Cymru 1(-)
Other 1(-)

1,667 GB adults on November 5-6]

[MTVN]

Politico publish who's doing what on the media round each day, this was Cleverly's schedule:

MEDIA ROUND
Conservative Party Chairman James Cleverly broadcast round: ITV Good Morning Britain (7.10 a.m.) … BBC Breakfast (7.30 a.m.) … LBC Nick Ferrari at Breakfast (7.30 a.m.) … BBC Radio 4 Today (8.10 a.m.) … BBC Radio 5 Live Breakfast (8.35 a.m.) … TalkRadio Julia Hartley Brewer Show (8.40 a.m.) … ITV News (8.50 a.m.).

And these were the only confirmed guests on Kay Hurley

on Kay Burley @ Breakfast: Liberal Democrat Finchley and Golders Green candidate Luciana Berger (7.05 a.m.) … Conservative Bishop Auckland candidate Dehenna Davison and Labour Uxbridge candidate Ali Milani (7.30 a.m.) … Green party co-leader Jonathan Bartley (8.05 a.m.).

https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/london-playbook/politico-london-playbook-presented-by-exxonmobil-tory-launch-green-co-leader-interview-digital-election/

Cleverly might have said he'd do Kay Burley if time between other interviews but it wasn't officially booked so embarassing from her really

[Oliver_W]

It's gonna be a close one. I think either Labour or Tories will get a fairly comfortable lead, or there'll be a LibLab or ConLib coalition.

I know that's practically every possibility :joker: but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised with any.

[Twosugars]

[NEW: YouGov / Sky News poll

Tory lead down 2 percentage points to 11

Con 36 (-2 since 1-4 Nov)
Lab 25 (nc)
Lib Dem 17 (+1)
Brexit Party 11 (nc)
SNP 4 (-)
Plaid Cymru 1(-)
Other 1(-)

1,667 GB adults on November 5-6]

Release moggy into the media and the lead will disappear just like that :hee:

[arista]

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[Twosugars]

Of course he would. It's in everyone's interest we have soft brexit

[Zizu]

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Does anyone believe a word Corbyn says ??

He’s completely unelectable.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[The Slim Reaper]

Politico publish who's doing what on the media round each day, this was Cleverly's schedule:

MEDIA ROUND
Conservative Party Chairman James Cleverly broadcast round: ITV Good Morning Britain (7.10 a.m.) … BBC Breakfast (7.30 a.m.) … LBC Nick Ferrari at Breakfast (7.30 a.m.) … BBC Radio 4 Today (8.10 a.m.) … BBC Radio 5 Live Breakfast (8.35 a.m.) … TalkRadio Julia Hartley Brewer Show (8.40 a.m.) … ITV News (8.50 a.m.).

And these were the only confirmed guests on Kay Hurley

on Kay Burley @ Breakfast: Liberal Democrat Finchley and Golders Green candidate Luciana Berger (7.05 a.m.) … Conservative Bishop Auckland candidate Dehenna Davison and Labour Uxbridge candidate Ali Milani (7.30 a.m.) … Green party co-leader Jonathan Bartley (8.05 a.m.).

https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/london-playbook/politico-london-playbook-presented-by-exxonmobil-tory-launch-green-co-leader-interview-digital-election/

Cleverly might have said he'd do Kay Burley if time between other interviews but it wasn't officially booked so embarassing from her really

Cheers. What a weird thing to make up from KB.

[Liam-]

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[The Slim Reaper]

The plot thickens again...

[Liam-]

I’m not quite sure why people think Kay would purposely risk her reputation and career to make up a story about a politician skipping on a booked interview? Makes zero sense

[The Slim Reaper]

I’m not quite sure why people think Kay would purposely risk her reputation and career to make up a story about a politician skipping on a booked interview? Makes zero sense

One of them is obviously lying, but they've both backed themselves into a corner now so it will be impossible for the other to own up to it. I doubt KB and JC would have discussed it themselves in person, so there should be a paper trail/phone call with a producer/text msg confirming it which I hope she is able to produce in her article.

[Liam-]

She said during the segment that he apparently agreed to appear over text so if that’s the case, he’ll be well and truly done over

[Oliver_W]

lol his schedule says he's in two different places at 7.30am

[Twosugars]

Bet Burley is right. Cons are liars so it makes sense

[MTVN]

Well I suspect that the truth is between the two stories - he told Kay he'd appear but it wasn't part of the official media round and he skipped it either due to lack of time or because his interviews weren't going that well. I saw him on GMB and it was a bad interview for him but it did also overrun significantly which obviously impedes on his ability to do other interviews and so it makes sense to prioritise the ones that were booked officially first

[MTVN]

Anyway - Tom Watson stepping down

[Liam-]

Well I suspect that the truth is between the two stories - he told Kay he'd appear but it wasn't part of the official media round and he skipped it either due to lack of time or because his interviews weren't going that well. I saw him on GMB and it was a bad interview for him but it did also overrun significantly which obviously impedes on his ability to do other interviews and so it makes sense to prioritise the ones that were booked officially first

That scenario is very possible, he’s a busy man, I think it’s more likely though that he chose to skip it to go for the softball interview on familiar ground after a disastrous morning

[bots]

I'm looking forward to more gems from Ms Abbott, they are the highlight of the election for me