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Denver
13-12-2019, 02:31 AM
Angela Rayner, Laura Piddock or Emily Thornberry should be the next leader

Lisa Nandy is who I think would be great leader

arista
13-12-2019, 02:31 AM
Jeremy Corbyn has said he will not take part in another election as Leader



Yes I made a thread on that.

arista
13-12-2019, 02:33 AM
Don Valley Conservative Gain.

Was Caroline Flints Seat.

jet
13-12-2019, 02:34 AM
That’s Jeremy, but what about Boris and his bigotry? Anything to add?

You are asking me to compare someone who has made some awful remarks whilst writing as a journalist to someone who supported terrorists who murdered thousands of innocent men, women and children -attended their funereals, spoke at their rallies, campaigned for their release?
All proven by evidence from the iRA's archives.
And who also currently let anti semitism thrive in his party.

No contest - and the public have shown they agree because the Labour numbers are greatly down not just in the leave areas but in the remain areas as well. So the voters are not rejecting Corbyn just because of his Brexit non - stance.

arista
13-12-2019, 02:35 AM
Lib Dem Gain from SNP

Fife North

Denver
13-12-2019, 02:35 AM
Theresa May has been reelected to her seat

arista
13-12-2019, 02:37 AM
Great Grimsby Conservative Gain

Denver
13-12-2019, 02:37 AM
Dominic Raab has confirmed Scotland will not get another referendum

Denver
13-12-2019, 02:39 AM
Boris has kept his seat

jet
13-12-2019, 02:39 AM
Explain why he voting against 17 terrorist Bill's and abstained from 2?

Did you get an answer to that yet or did they dodge it? :hee:

arista
13-12-2019, 02:40 AM
PM Johnson Keeps his Seat.

Denver
13-12-2019, 02:40 AM
Queen Priti Patel has been Re-Elected

arista
13-12-2019, 02:42 AM
PM is Talking

Denver
13-12-2019, 02:43 AM
Angela Rayner, Laura Piddock or Emily Thornberry should be the next leader

Hasn't Laura just lost her seat.?

Denver
13-12-2019, 02:44 AM
Jo Swinsin has lost her seat

arista
13-12-2019, 02:45 AM
Jo Swinson Loses her seat to SNP


Also Chukka Failed to Get a Seat.



LibDems made a couple of gains.

arista
13-12-2019, 02:52 AM
LibDems Gain St.Albans

arista
13-12-2019, 03:10 AM
LABOUR
46 Seats Lost

40 to Conservative
6 to SNP

arista
13-12-2019, 03:15 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELn_i3gXYAABq99?format=jpg&name=small

Posting today's the Front Pages again

arista
13-12-2019, 03:16 AM
Anna Soubry
is Gone.

Conservative Held that seat.

Zizu
13-12-2019, 03:22 AM
He did neither of things but you crack on reading the Daily Mail



I hope you don’t drive on our roads wearing those blinkers !!


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arista
13-12-2019, 03:23 AM
LABOUR
46 Seats Lost

40 to Conservative
6 to SNP

Zizu
13-12-2019, 03:24 AM
Jez keeping his seat, king



Until tomorrow .. ..


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Zizu
13-12-2019, 03:25 AM
Jo Swinson is hilarious tbh claiming she had a high chance of becoming prime minster and then put a campaign out about how she would do what was best for her not what the public voted and is now about to lose her seat.

Absolutely embarrassing



Couldn’t happen to a ‘nicer’ person ..

Her , Corbyn and Abbott can toddle off together into beautiful obscurity


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arista
13-12-2019, 03:26 AM
Stoke On Trent Central Conservative Gain


Kensington Conservative Gain



Labour Hold Holborn

bots
13-12-2019, 03:31 AM
think the itv coverage has been the best tonight. Andrew Neil being confrontational with every guest just isnt enjoyable

Zizu
13-12-2019, 03:33 AM
So you’re choosing to believe claims that someone is anti-Semitic, while you choose to ignore a dithering buffoon who’s made comments to offend pretty much anyone?



The dithering buffoon is an act that fools the weak minded .

He’s a highly intelligent guy .. he shone like a beacon.


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Johnson was educated at the European School, Brussels and Eton College. He read Classics at Balliol College, Oxford, where he was elected president of the Oxford Union in 1986. He began his career in journalism at The Times . He later became The Daily Telegraph's Brussels correspondent, and his articles exerted a strong influence on growing Eurosceptic sentiment on the British right. He was an assistant editor of The Daily Telegraph from 1994 to 1999, and edited The Spectator from 1999 to 2005

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arista
13-12-2019, 03:35 AM
Durham North West Conservative Gain
Yes Labour Cabinet Member Laura Pidcock has lost her seat




West Bromwich East Conservative Gain
Burnley Conservative Gain
Heywood & Middleton Conservative Gain
Ashfield Conservative Gain
Wolverhampton North East Conservative Gain
Wakefield Conservative Gain
Birmingham Northfield Conservative Gain
Bolsover Conservative Gain

Conservative Hold Bournmouth

arista
13-12-2019, 03:37 AM
think the itv coverage has been the best tonight. Andrew Neil being confrontational with every guest just isnt enjoyable



No Ch4HD Alternate Election was the Best
They spoke their minds



I have them all on.

arista
13-12-2019, 03:56 AM
Conservative Hold Aberdeenshire W.


So SNP did not get rid of the Conservatives in Scotland

arista
13-12-2019, 04:09 AM
Luciana Berger is Gone


Finchley Conservative Hold

LaLaLand
13-12-2019, 04:34 AM
Please tell me you guys saw what Stanley Johnson was saying on C4 about Muslim women? The apple certainly didn’t fall far from the tree there...

Unbelievable.

What a night. Never in a million years thought I’d see my constituency turn blue but it has tonight, first time since the 30’s...

bots
13-12-2019, 04:38 AM
Corbyn is completely deluded, his speech was that of someone lacking any personal responsibility

Cherie
13-12-2019, 04:43 AM
The Suns headline :skull:

bots
13-12-2019, 04:49 AM
The pound surged against the dollar as the Conservative Party won on overall majority in the UK general election.

Sterling gained 2.2% to $1.34 - its highest level since May last year - on hopes that a big majority would remove uncertainty over Brexit.

The pound also jumped to a three-and-a-half-year high against the euro.

arista
13-12-2019, 05:01 AM
Please tell me you guys saw what Stanley Johnson was saying on C4 about Muslim women? The apple certainly didn’t fall far from the tree there...

Unbelievable.

What a night. Never in a million years thought I’d see my constituency turn blue but it has tonight, first time since the 30’s...


Yes Ch4HD Alternate Election
was the best of all the shows

I had all of them on 4 TV's

Mystic Mock
13-12-2019, 05:02 AM
I'm hoping that I'm wrong and that Boris can do a good job now that he has got a majority to work with.

However after Cameron and May both being disasters I'm not holding out much hope for Boris actually being a good leader for the Conservatives.

arista
13-12-2019, 05:03 AM
Stanley Johnson is soon on GMBHD itv.

bots
13-12-2019, 05:04 AM
i don't think we should let the night pass without giving an honourable mention to Lord Bucket head :flutter::clap2:

arista
13-12-2019, 05:24 AM
Jo Swinson is on her way to London
after losing her seat.
She Must Stand Down

Let Ed Davey take over.

arista
13-12-2019, 05:27 AM
Stanley Johnson and Johnson Sister
are both on GMBHD itv.

arista
13-12-2019, 05:33 AM
Jo Swinson has Stepped down.


Ed Davey and another are going to be joint leader


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELpZ4wpWkAAr5Lf?format=jpg&name=small

arista
13-12-2019, 05:36 AM
Eastbourne has Gone Conservative
it was Lib Dem.

Kizzy
13-12-2019, 05:43 AM
Well we deserve every thing that's coming to us...

arista
13-12-2019, 05:44 AM
1205337825186594817

arista
13-12-2019, 05:46 AM
Well we deserve every thing that's coming to us...


It was a Brexit Election.
Loads of Labour Leavers
VOTED Conservative
FACT

Black Dagger
13-12-2019, 05:52 AM
Queen Priti Patel has been Re-Elected

She's a racist, horrible smug gob****e that hates people like you. She isn't no queen.

Cal.
13-12-2019, 06:02 AM
Angela Rayner has been re-elected! Get her running the Labour Party!

arista
13-12-2019, 06:02 AM
The Seats for Scotland

SNP 48
Conservative 6
LibDem 4
Labour 1

arista
13-12-2019, 06:16 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELpYY2RWsAEApp-?format=jpg&name=360x360

arista
13-12-2019, 06:18 AM
All Gone


Jo Swinson

Dominic Grieve

Nigel Dodds

Zac Goldsmith

David Gauke

Laura Pidcock (Labour)

Dennis Skinner (Labour)

LaLaLand
13-12-2019, 06:44 AM
Angela Rayner has been re-elected! Get her running the Labour Party!

Agreed, she’s brilliant. Her in charge with Jess Phillips second in command!

Kazanne
13-12-2019, 07:12 AM
I'm surprised you're not a labour voter, one of the reasons I voted them is their stance on vastly improving animal welfare.

Doesn't Boris intend on bringing hunting back also?

No he doesn't and he has animal welfare policies also,,not heard, any from Labour

Nicky91
13-12-2019, 07:29 AM
Congrats Boris on your massive massive win, now one thing protect the NHS from Trump's greasy fingers, man up and be the boss in that trade deal with america

don't let trump control you or britain

arista
13-12-2019, 07:33 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/122E8/production/_110127447_thetimes2.jpg

arista
13-12-2019, 07:34 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1121C/production/_110127107_financialtimes.jpg

Toy Soldier
13-12-2019, 07:39 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELpYY2RWsAEApp-?format=jpg&name=360x360

As I said, isn't the map hugely illustrative? "The United Kingdom of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland". United lol.

The three countries are completely different colours on the election map. We are evidently not politically united. NONE of the three. It's a joke.

Toy Soldier
13-12-2019, 07:44 AM
Conservative Hold Aberdeenshire W.


So SNP did not get rid of the Conservatives in Scotland

Aberdeenshire has its' own mini-economy that makes its political inclinations distinct from most of Scotland, you'll notice that all of the blue is clustered around Aberdeen.

Cherie
13-12-2019, 07:48 AM
Aberdeenshire has its' own mini-economy that makes its political inclinations distinct from most of Scotland, you'll notice that all of the blue is clustered around Aberdeen.

Doesn't that show that people tend to vote for their own interests, what I find amusing is

Scotland, we must put Scotlands interests first...yay
NI, we must put NI interests first ….yay
Wales...we must put Welsh interests first...yay
England, we must put English interests first....looks around nervously but no one raises a hand :laugh: and all the rest ...only after our interests have been served FIRST tyvm :hmph:

bots
13-12-2019, 07:50 AM
Doesn't that show that people tend to vote for their own interests, what I find amusing is

Scotland, we must put Scotlands interests first...yay
NI, we must put NI interests first ….yay
Wales...we must put Welsh interests first...yay
England, we must put English interests first....looks around nervously but no one raises a hand :laugh: and all the rest ...only after our interests have been served FIRST tyvm :hmph:

Aberdeen reflects the oil industry and the influx of English people because of that. It is little England. That's why the votes are so different

arista
13-12-2019, 07:51 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELn_i3gXYAABq99?format=jpg&name=small

All the Papers Again.

arista
13-12-2019, 07:52 AM
Aberdeenshire has its' own mini-economy that makes its political inclinations distinct from most of Scotland, you'll notice that all of the blue is clustered around Aberdeen.


OK TS
thanks

arista
13-12-2019, 07:58 AM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/HM6wN0oaiZ5NlsGe0YOLcA/https/media.fyre.co/PZ8OsQsUTsK3zr1f1GJ3_13dec1front05_1576212317_001. png[/



2nd Front Page Guardian
Very Large

Liam-
13-12-2019, 08:17 AM
Welsh independence looks hella tasty as an option right now yknow

thesheriff443
13-12-2019, 08:24 AM
OK TS
thanks

Patting ts on the head while walking into class.

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 08:55 AM
Doesn't that show that people tend to vote for their own interests, what I find amusing is

Scotland, we must put Scotlands interests first...yay
NI, we must put NI interests first ….yay
Wales...we must put Welsh interests first...yay
England, we must put English interests first....looks around nervously but no one raises a hand :laugh: and all the rest ...only after our interests have been served FIRST tyvm :hmph:

yes that is why a union of countries of huge scale difference, population difference and social difference - ruled by an elite in london does not work in 2020 and will not work going forward

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 08:56 AM
John McDonald's veil slipped last night in his speech..


:umm2:

Nicky91
13-12-2019, 08:57 AM
yes that is why a union of countries of huge scale difference, population difference and social difference - ruled by an elite in london does not work in 2020 and will not work going forward

not to forget about Scotland, Wales having own mother languages respectively in Scottish Gaelic and Welsh


english can be a 2nd language of course, but main language for these countries seems to be forgotten due to being a part of a ''english nationalistic'' britain

Oliver_W
13-12-2019, 08:58 AM
not to forget about Scotland, Wales having own mother languages respectively in Scottish Gaelic and Welsh


english can be a 2nd language of course, but main language for these countries seems to be forgotten due to being a part of a ''english nationalistic'' britain

One of my Mum's coworkers is Welsh, and he has trouble speaking English. Or maybe he's just a simpleton :joker:

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 08:58 AM
Boy was I wrong about the British public. Three things sum up this election for me and where we're going as a country. The woman who said it's ok to take financial advantage of disabled people in the workplace because they don't understand won her seat, the guy who said that social housing tenants should be made to live in tents and forced to pick vegetables won his seat, and Grenfell is also tory.

Oliver_W
13-12-2019, 09:00 AM
Whyyy is Corbyn not stepping down immediately? He's not doing Labour any good by lingering like a bad smell. The current Gov needs as an effective Opposition as soon as possible. Him dithering and clinging on isn't helping anyone.

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 09:02 AM
Boy was I wrong about the British public. Three things sum up this election for me and where we're going as a country. The woman who said it's ok to take financial advantage of disabled people in the workplace because they don't understand won her seat, the guy who said that social housing tenants should be made to live in tents and forced to pick vegetables won his seat, and Grenfell is also tory.

with respect slim, i would suggest you dont understand people.

James
13-12-2019, 09:03 AM
not to forget about Scotland, Wales having own mother languages respectively in Scottish Gaelic and Welsh


english can be a 2nd language of course, but main language for these countries seems to be forgotten due to being a part of a ''english nationalistic'' britain

Hardly anyone in Scotland speaks Gaelic.

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 09:05 AM
with respect slim, i would suggest you dont understand people.

I agree with that. With the examples I've just given in my previous post, that's an indisputable fact.

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 09:07 AM
worst labour result since the 1930s - ie before just about anyone was born


wrong leader who keeps the wrong company
no brexit stance
hand wringing campaign of BS about the NHS
very little positive message
awful nationalisation idea
london politicians telling northern labour voters they did not no what they voted for in referendum

michael21
13-12-2019, 09:10 AM
Yes Ch4HD Alternate Election
was the best of all the shows

I had all of them on 4 TV's

On sky there are more news channels covering it you need more tvs uhd ones no less

Oliver_W
13-12-2019, 09:13 AM
worst labour result since the 1930s - ie before just about anyone was born


wrong leader who keeps the wrong company
no brexit stance
hand wringing campaign of BS about the NHS
very little positive message
awful nationalisation idea
london politicians telling northern labour voters they did not no what they voted for in referendum
I think that's a Mathematical Fractal of what one of their biggest problems was. Labour in its current form just doesn't seem or act like the party for the working class across the country, but rather for London based middle class people who drink champaign while raising money for the school down the road.

Those who represented the party in the media didn't help - Emily Thornberry comes off as the sneering elite, Dianne Abbott is an "exceptional individual", Jess Phillips is a shrill crybaby...

The only likeable ones we see much of are Sir Kier, and the woman who usually sits next to Corbyn at PMQs.

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 09:15 AM
worst labour result since the 1930s - ie before just about anyone was born


wrong leader who keeps the wrong company
no brexit stance
hand wringing campaign of BS about the NHS
very little positive message
awful nationalisation idea
london politicians telling northern labour voters they did not no what they voted for in referendum

I'm not relitigating the Corbyn smears - been done to death.
Corbyn was appalling on brexit from the start, trying to play it down the middle pissed off everyone
The hand wringing campaign was 100% truthful. By any measure the NHS is in a state now compared to when the tories took over, waiting times, funding, and all the professional organisations backed this up. The willingness of people to accept foreigners as the root cause rather than a right wing ideology os the problem.
Labour ran a positive campaign about the things they wanted to do, tories ran from scrutiny, Johnson literally hiding in fridges and taking journo's phones off them to avoid looking at a sick child lying on a hospital floor.
The nationalisation ideas are extremely popular in national polling of people on all sides.
They didn't know what they were voting for - Farag said Johnsons Brexit was brexit in name only, Johnson said he had the perfect brexit. If 2 of the main players can't agree on what it actually is, then how can you expect 17m people to all know what it is?

Toy Soldier
13-12-2019, 09:18 AM
Whyyy is Corbyn not stepping down immediately? He's not doing Labour any good by lingering like a bad smell. The current Gov needs as an effective Opposition as soon as possible. Him dithering and clinging on isn't helping anyone.

I mean it doesn't really matter at this point, with a heavy Tory majority there isn't going to be another GE for 5 years. A smooth transition to a carefully considered leader makes more sense than flipping over to some inevitably temporary leader now, seems less stable to the public, a shift from Corbyn directly to a new (distinctly different) permanent leader - post Brexit when things are quieter - will have more impact.



wrong leader who keeps the wrong company
no brexit stance
hand wringing campaign of BS about the NHS
very little positive message
awful nationalisation idea
london politicians telling northern labour voters they did not no what they voted for in referendum

Can't disagree with most of that to be fair. The NHS is in trouble long term under the Tories - that's not scare tactics, it's a fact - but Labour's over-simplified rhetoric about it has done them no favours.

Hardly anyone in Scotland speaks Gaelic.

effing Dotaman. He could ruin a good morning of Kids TV at any given moment :fist:

CrrEhvMs4I0

And when I was a kid I thought they were saying "I've lost my horse" and was like "Not again surely."

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 09:23 AM
Dotaman :joker:

Cherie
13-12-2019, 09:23 AM
Boy was I wrong about the British public. Three things sum up this election for me and where we're going as a country. The woman who said it's ok to take financial advantage of disabled people in the workplace because they don't understand won her seat, the guy who said that social housing tenants should be made to live in tents and forced to pick vegetables won his seat, and Grenfell is also tory.

By 20 votes, that has got to hurt

arista
13-12-2019, 09:24 AM
Whyyy is Corbyn not stepping down immediately? He's not doing Labour any good by lingering like a bad smell. The current Gov needs as an effective Opposition as soon as possible. Him dithering and clinging on isn't helping anyone.


He is looking for someone he wants to take
over.

arista
13-12-2019, 09:25 AM
Boy was I wrong about the British public. Three things sum up this election for me and where we're going as a country. The woman who said it's ok to take financial advantage of disabled people in the workplace because they don't understand won her seat, the guy who said that social housing tenants should be made to live in tents and forced to pick vegetables won his seat, and Grenfell is also tory.


You were wrong on
Labour Leave Voters

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 09:27 AM
This country is it's worst enemy! :oh::crazy: , goodbye hopes and dreams.

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 09:33 AM
You were wrong on
Labour Leave Voters

I'm ready to enjoy the sunny uplands of BJ's hard brexit.

SherzyK
13-12-2019, 09:41 AM
By 20 votes, that has got to hurt

It really does :(

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 09:42 AM
Wondering who the tory party is?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELqSZ8bWoAAnSyu?format=jpg&name=large

Elliot
13-12-2019, 09:47 AM
Whyyy is Corbyn not stepping down immediately? He's not doing Labour any good by lingering like a bad smell. The current Gov needs as an effective Opposition as soon as possible. Him dithering and clinging on isn't helping anyone.

Corbyn is a great candidate and labour is very lucky to have him <3 People are masochists and continue to vote against their own self interests.. brexit was always gonna win, nothing to do with how good or not good Corbyn is.

Livia
13-12-2019, 09:47 AM
This result came as a shock to a lot of people. Like the Brexit result came as a shock. My theory on this is that, the people who make the most noise are the hard Left. Anyone thinking of voting Tory has to wade through an ocean of negative comment, insinuations that they're a bit simple... I've virtually given up talking about politics on here. I've been branded a bigot, been told I'm anti-Muslim (I'm anti-terrorist, that's quite different), you only have to read through the comments following the count last night to see the angle at which the hard Left approaches elections.

It's done now. Labour's biggest mistake was to back Corbyn. Hopefully, they'll choose someone now who has a chance of making a strong opposition, because without a strong opposition the Tories have free reign.

Livia
13-12-2019, 09:48 AM
Corbyn is a great candidate and labour is very lucky to have him <3 People are masochists and continue to vote against their own self interests.. brexit was always gonna win, nothing to do with how good or not good Corbyn is.

If only everyone was as clever as you, Elliot.

Elliot
13-12-2019, 09:49 AM
Islamaphobia has won :(

SherzyK
13-12-2019, 09:50 AM
If only everyone was as clever as you, Elliot.

I don’t think you’re in any position to decide who’s clever, when you’re just as irrational when it comes to politics

Livia
13-12-2019, 09:51 AM
Islamaphobia has won :(

Anti-Semitism has lost, you mean.

I'm not denying that there is Islamaphobia within the Tory party, the difference is that I believe it will be addressed by the Conservatives in a way Anti-Semitism never was by Labour.

We'll see, won't we.

Nicky91
13-12-2019, 09:52 AM
This result came as a shock to a lot of people. Like the Brexit result came as a shock. My theory on this is that, the people who make the most noise are the hard Left. Anyone thinking of voting Tory has to wade through an ocean of negative comment, insinuations that they're a bit simple... I've virtually given up talking about politics on here. I've been branded a bigot, been told I'm anti-Muslim (I'm anti-terrorist, that's quite different), you only have to read through the comments following the count last night to see the angle at which the hard Left approaches elections.

It's done now. Labour's biggest mistake was to back Corbyn. Hopefully, they'll choose someone now who has a chance of making a strong opposition, because without a strong opposition the Tories have free reign.

uh, do you have sympathy for any innocent muslims being beaten up because of Islamophobic parties like (Tories in UK, PVV in my country or german's far right AFD)

Livia
13-12-2019, 09:52 AM
I don’t think you’re in any position to decide who’s clever, when you’re just as irrational when it comes to politics

I will gladly pitch my intelligence against yours Elliot. Any day of the week.

Tired of being told I'm stupid.

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 09:53 AM
Corbyn is a great candidate and labour is very lucky to have him <3 People are masochists and continue to vote against their own self interests.. brexit was always gonna win, nothing to do with how good or not good Corbyn is.

He isnt

they are not

no they are not

brexit is a process not a thing


it is

Livia
13-12-2019, 09:53 AM
uh, do you have sympathy for any innocent muslims being beaten up because of Islamophobic parties like (Tories in UK, PVV in my country or german's far right AFD)

I'm not discussing this with you Nicky because you're talking bo11ox.

Nicky91
13-12-2019, 09:54 AM
He isnt

they are not

no they are not

brexit is a process not a thing


it is

now our rioting can start, our protests, boycotts :dance:

arista
13-12-2019, 09:56 AM
Scottish Public Women BBC1
calling England "Far Right"
she is wrong

SherzyK
13-12-2019, 09:57 AM
now our rioting can start, our protests, boycotts :dance:

And what rioting are you going to take part in, when you’ve made statements about backing the brexit party? Isn’t this what you wanted?

Cherie
13-12-2019, 09:58 AM
now our rioting can start, our protests, boycotts :dance:

what are you rioting about :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 09:59 AM
And what rioting are you going to take part in, when you’ve made statements about backing the brexit party? Isn’t this what you wanted?

agreed Nicky did back Brexit party

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 10:00 AM
It really is Friday the 13th :D

Let the ****show begin

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 10:01 AM
agreed Nicky did back Brexit party

And you voted SNP all the while pushing tory propaganda here

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 10:03 AM
I will gladly pitch my intelligence against yours Elliot. Any day of the week.

Tired of being told I'm stupid.

Your problem is you seem incapable of discussing anything without going personal.
Toxic recipe imo

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 10:03 AM
I will gladly pitch my intelligence against yours Elliot. Any day of the week.

Tired of being told I'm stupid.

Corbyn was treated like a hate figure, the guy never had a chance . Doesn't matter who becomes the next Labour leader as they'll get the same horrible unfair treatment
:bored: .

You can think what you like Livia but nobody is as offensive and xenophobic as Boris Johnson ! , He gets away with everything and just gets more support it makes me feel sick:crazy: .
Also the mess that is Brexit hasn't helped matters.

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 10:03 AM
Anti-Semitism has lost, you mean.

I'm not denying that there is Islamaphobia within the Tory party, the difference is that I believe it will be addressed by the Conservatives in a way Anti-Semitism never was by Labour.

We'll see, won't we.

Have you read Boris' novel about proud nosed jews with curly hair, controlling the media?

Yep, a real victory for those standing up to all forms of racism, by electing the most outwardly bigoted PM of recent times.

Livia
13-12-2019, 10:05 AM
Your problem is you seem incapable of discussing anything without going personal.
Toxic recipe imo

I think you'll find I was responding to Elliot's rather abrasive message.

Niamh.
13-12-2019, 10:06 AM
I think you'll find I was responding to Elliot's rather abrasive message.

It was actually SherzyK who posted that not Elliot

SherzyK
13-12-2019, 10:07 AM
It was actually SherzyK who posted that not Elliot

:shame:

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 10:07 AM
It was actually SherzyK who posted that not Elliot

Snitches get stitches

Niamh.
13-12-2019, 10:09 AM
Snitches get stitches

#JusticeForElliot

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 10:10 AM
#JusticeForElliot

https://i.imgur.com/Oa3CAVj.jpg

SherzyK
13-12-2019, 10:11 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Oa3CAVj.jpg

A winner!

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 10:13 AM
I think you'll find I was responding to Elliot's rather abrasive message.

I said it as a general observation and a friendly one.

Unlike Jeremy I've already had my period of reflection and intend to be less confrontational myself :angel:

Livia
13-12-2019, 10:13 AM
It was actually SherzyK who posted that not Elliot

Oops soz...

Livia
13-12-2019, 10:14 AM
I said it as a general observation and a friendly one.

Unlike Jeremy I've already had my period of reflection and intend to be less confrontational myself :angel:

Me too.

Cherie
13-12-2019, 10:23 AM
lets hug it out

Livia
13-12-2019, 10:26 AM
lets hug it out

Are you a hippy?

Cherie
13-12-2019, 10:27 AM
Are you a hippy?

How dare you, the hippy era was well and truly over when I was born :fist:

Livia
13-12-2019, 10:29 AM
How dare you, the hippy era was well and truly over when I was born :fist:

Hug me then....go on...

arista
13-12-2019, 10:29 AM
Corbyn said he was for the many
but never met normal people
he failed.

Ref : LBC

Nicky91
13-12-2019, 10:31 AM
agreed Nicky did back Brexit party

whatever i said, that was more sarcasm

i never ever believed brexit was a good idea

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 10:33 AM
Corbyn said he was for the many
but never met normal people
he failed.

Ref : LBC
I guess he should of turned up to the polling station with a dog like what that idiot did ?!! :bored:

Kazanne
13-12-2019, 10:34 AM
I guess he should of turned up to the polling station with a dog like what that idiot did ?!! :bored:

Oh dear,I took my dogs aswell ,what an idiot I am :laugh:

Livia
13-12-2019, 10:34 AM
I guess he should of turned up to the polling station with a dog like what that idiot did ?!! :bored:

Or... he could have addressed the anti-Semitism in his party, and been seen to be addressing it, and made up his mind which side of the Brexit question he was on.

Toy Soldier
13-12-2019, 10:39 AM
Or... he could have addressed the anti-Semitism in his party, and been seen to be addressing it, and made up his mind which side of the Brexit question he was on.

Let's be honest here though, the anti-semitism didn't realistically change the vote much because A) not many people in the UK are Jewish and B) SADLY most people only really care about things that affect them directly.

The vote was about Brexit, and the anti-Corbyn sentiment that actually has impact is the idea that he's "too far left"/a Marxist.

People don't care about Labour members saying things that are anti-semitic any more than they care about Tories saying things that are Islamophobic. Which is "not much at all".

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 10:39 AM
Oh dear,I took my dogs aswell ,what an idiot I am :laugh:

I'm not targeting dog owners Kaz ,
But the comments about Johnson "well atleast he treats his dog right" was ludicrous :facepalm: .

Toy Soldier
13-12-2019, 10:49 AM
I'm not targeting dog owners Kaz ,
But the comments about Johnson "well atleast he treats his dog right" was ludicrous :facepalm: .

Treats his dog better than he'll treat half the population of the country.

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 10:52 AM
And you voted SNP all the while pushing tory propaganda here

only in your dreams


welcome back!

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 10:53 AM
Let's be honest here though, the anti-semitism didn't realistically change the vote much because A) not many people in the UK are Jewish and B) SADLY most people only really care about things that affect them directly.

The vote was about Brexit, and the anti-Corbyn sentiment that actually has impact is the idea that he's "too far left"/a Marxist.

People don't care about Labour members saying things that are anti-semitic any more than they care about Tories saying things that are Islamophobic. Which is "not much at all".

agreed but it did steal the news agenda somewhat from his message (if he ever had one)

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 10:55 AM
This is how Dianne Abbott went to vote yesterday

2 different shoes and both left

:umm2:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2019/12/12/TELEMMGLPICT000218931641_1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq0pE7o _NZUK6P3b0lzJQjTRE9l6BUywsJ8rRk7TzPiF0.jpeg?imwidt h=1400

Niamh.
13-12-2019, 10:59 AM
This is how Dianne Abbott went to vote yesterday

2 different shoes and both left

:umm2:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2019/12/12/TELEMMGLPICT000218931641_1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq0pE7o _NZUK6P3b0lzJQjTRE9l6BUywsJ8rRk7TzPiF0.jpeg?imwidt h=1400

Was that a really weird political stance? :laugh2:

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 11:02 AM
This is how Dianne Abbott went to vote yesterday

2 different shoes and both left

:umm2:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2019/12/12/TELEMMGLPICT000218931641_1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq0pE7o _NZUK6P3b0lzJQjTRE9l6BUywsJ8rRk7TzPiF0.jpeg?imwidt h=1400

Bit harsh, she has another pair exactly the same at home.

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 11:03 AM
:joker:

arista
13-12-2019, 11:05 AM
I guess he should of turned up to the polling station with a dog like what that idiot did ?!! :bored:


No you are missing the Point
Corbyn was not meeting people
only selected Labour voters.

He needed to pick up conservatives
to Win.

He even refused to go on LBC live
as that left winger did not like Corbyn.

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 11:10 AM
No you are missing the Point
Corbyn was not meeting people
only selected Labour voters.

He needed to pick up conservatives
to Win.

He even refused to go on LBC live
as that left winger did not like Corbyn.

C'mon my brother. Corbyn was out meeting the public daily and was met by huge crowds. Johnson was being smuggled into places to avoid protests. This just isn't true. Johnson didn't even turn up to the climate debate and refused the Andrew Neil interview, and they're both backed by the Barclay brothers.

Toy Soldier
13-12-2019, 11:11 AM
agreed but it did steal the news agenda somewhat from his message (if he ever had one)

People didn't care about his message either though because it was about supporting the disabled and unemployed, and people care about them about as much as they care about Jews and Muslims.

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 11:14 AM
Or... he could have addressed the anti-Semitism in his party, and been seen to be addressing it, and made up his mind which side of the Brexit question he was on.

:joker: Because Johnson addressed all the bigotry in his party didn't he ??? What a load of rubbish.

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 11:15 AM
We need Marcus back running for PM.

arista
13-12-2019, 11:20 AM
C'mon my brother. Corbyn was out meeting the public daily and was met by huge crowds. Johnson was being smuggled into places to avoid protests. This just isn't true. Johnson didn't even turn up to the climate debate and refused the Andrew Neil interview, and they're both backed by the Barclay brothers.


No they were pre-selected
Corbyn failed to meet conservatives

arista
13-12-2019, 11:21 AM
1205441314541707265

Emily has not even done a full day
but is slipping up.

Livia
13-12-2019, 11:24 AM
Let's be honest here though, the anti-semitism didn't realistically change the vote much because A) not many people in the UK are Jewish and B) SADLY most people only really care about things that affect them directly.

The vote was about Brexit, and the anti-Corbyn sentiment that actually has impact is the idea that he's "too far left"/a Marxist.

People don't care about Labour members saying things that are anti-semitic any more than they care about Tories saying things that are Islamophobic. Which is "not much at all".

Well, I don't believe that's true. I think young people especially don't like any kind of racism. And the problem in Labour was that they were not being seen to tackle it, instead it was a case of "Nothing to see here...". I've said on other threads, it doesn't give me any joy to see Labour do so badly, the country needs a strong opposition and sadly, now we don't have one.

Cherie
13-12-2019, 11:25 AM
1205441314541707265

Emily has not even done a full day
but is slipping up.

:joker::joker::joker:

arista
13-12-2019, 11:25 AM
SNP wants to Separate
from the UK.


Johnson will not allow any vote

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 11:26 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELqoYJhW4AAy4Ta?format=jpg&name=medium

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 11:26 AM
SNP wants to Separate
from the UK.


Johnson will not allow any vote

he may find it hard to avoid democracy to solve this problem

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 11:27 AM
he may find it hard to avoid democracy to solve this problem

Agreed. No way Britain stays together for much longer.

Livia
13-12-2019, 11:28 AM
:joker: Because Johnson addressed all the bigotry in his party didn't he ??? What a load of rubbish.

Whataboutery.

Labour is only the second political party in history to be investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. The only other party to face this was the BNP. Refusing to acknowledge the scale of the problem helped Labour lose the election.

arista
13-12-2019, 11:30 AM
he may find it hard to avoid democracy to solve this problem


He has the Queen backing him

arista
13-12-2019, 11:32 AM
1205345006829162497

last week

arista
13-12-2019, 11:37 AM
1205376646502649856

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 11:38 AM
He has the Queen backing him

we will burn down Balmoral

:fist:

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 11:40 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Matt%20homepage/mattdecember2019/1312-MATT-PORTAL-WEB-P1.png?imwidth=320

arista
13-12-2019, 11:43 AM
we will burn down Balmoral

:fist:


Our Troops will Shoot you.

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 11:45 AM
Our Troops will Shoot you.

typical aggressive war mongering England

no wonder Scotland want to cast you aside to live with Wales

Kazanne
13-12-2019, 11:59 AM
I'm not targeting dog owners Kaz ,
But the comments about Johnson "well atleast he treats his dog right" was ludicrous :facepalm: .

Im sure they were just jesting , the vote is in nothing will change that so lets get on with it instead of this constant negativity.

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 12:18 PM
Tories feeling free to say what they really feel today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELmW5B8WoAA95pS?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

AnnieK
13-12-2019, 12:22 PM
Im sure they were just jesting , the vote is in nothing will change that so lets get on with it instead of this constant negativity.

I think people just need a little time Kaz. People were massively invested in their beliefs and there are major challenges we are going to face now individually and as a country so I think people are allowed to be negative for a while. Then they will dust themselves off and deal with what is coming but at the moment people are scared of what this Tory goverment could foist upon us and how that will effect the most vulnerable in society.

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 12:27 PM
1205473522732146694

Next domino...

Kazanne
13-12-2019, 12:45 PM
So she wants to stay in the EU but not the UK,is that right? Well let them go then.

Denver
13-12-2019, 12:55 PM
Actually the PM has every right to deny it and he will do and hopefully make Scotland suffer for it

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 12:59 PM
Actually the PM has every right to deny it and he will do and hopefully make Scotland suffer for it

Suffer for it?

Mate, this is not China. Moderate your ideas :umm2:

Liam-
13-12-2019, 12:59 PM
Actually the PM has every right to deny it and he will do and hopefully make Scotland suffer for it

Imagine wanting a Prime Minister to make a part of their country suffer because they disagree with him, jfc.

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 01:02 PM
only in your dreams


welcome back!

Dont interrupt. I'm having angry sex with Arista. He didnt like me disappearing.

Liam-
13-12-2019, 01:02 PM
I’m willing to see what Boris tries to deliver, I’ll be ecstatic to finally see the back of this Brexit nonsense, he’s going to be a disaster for normal, working class people, like Tories always have been, but with Brexit out of the way, it’ll make room for actual policies to take centre stage and shape the future of the next election, just going to have to wait and see what sort of damage they do, nothing that can be done about it yet.

Liam-
13-12-2019, 01:03 PM
Tories feeling free to say what they really feel today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELmW5B8WoAA95pS?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Has Stanley learnt to use Twitter?

Denver
13-12-2019, 01:04 PM
Suffer for it?

Mate, this is not China. Moderate your ideas :umm2:

Imagine wanting a Prime Minister to make a part of their country suffer because they disagree with him, jfc.

If Nicola wants to play games then maybe she shouldn't cherish in the british money and success.

She cant have it all

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 01:06 PM
I’m willing to see what Boris tries to deliver, I’ll be ecstatic to finally see the back of this Brexit nonsense, he’s going to be a disaster for normal, working class people, like Tories always have been, but with Brexit out of the way, it’ll make room for actual policies to take centre stage and shape the future of the next election, just going to have to wait and see what sort of damage they do, nothing that can be done about it yet.

The thing is he wont "get brexit done" in 11 months so that was a lie and we will leave without a trade deal after transition is over. So brexit will impact things negatively. Unless he asks for extension which would make his current promise that he won't another lie.

Liam-
13-12-2019, 01:11 PM
The thing is he wont "get brexit done" in 11 months so that was a lie and we will leave without a trade deal after transition is over. So brexit will impact things negatively. Unless he asks for extension which would make his current promise that he won't another lie.

No I’m fully with you on that, I can’t wait for the backlash when he delivers on his main promise and everyone sees that it’s not as simple as him and his cronies made out.

bots
13-12-2019, 01:12 PM
The thing is he wont "get brexit done" in 11 months so that was a lie and we will leave without a trade deal after transition is over. So brexit will impact things negatively. Unless he asks for extension which would make his current promise that he won't another lie.

what people haven't grasped yet is that brexit will be done when boris says its done. People are acting like parliament still has some say on what happens, it doesn't. If Boris wants to end the transition in February, he will, and that will be that

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 01:13 PM
Labour supporters are disappointed that we're not able to properly fund the NHS or end austerity.

Tory supporters are happy they get to stick it to people. The absolute most stark and damning differences between the parties and the country.

AnnieK
13-12-2019, 01:16 PM
Labour supporters are disappointed that we're not able to properly fund the NHS or end austerity.

Tory supporters are happy they get to stick it to people. The absolute most stark and damning differences between the parties and the country.

Sadly, I agree with that and it is awful to witness.

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 01:17 PM
No I’m fully with you on that, I can’t wait for the backlash when he delivers on his main promise and everyone sees that it’s not as simple as him and his cronies made out.

True.

what people haven't grasped yet is that brexit will be done when boris says its done. People are acting like parliament still has some say on what happens, it doesn't. If Boris wants to end the transition in February, he will, and that will be that

Let him. He will pay the price next time.
Atm even going for no deal after transition looks worse than normal bc WTO does not have a functioning adjudication body in case of trade disputes. The reason? Trump, bojo's buddy, blocked the new appointments.

Liam-
13-12-2019, 01:20 PM
Labour supporters are disappointed that we're not able to properly fund the NHS or end austerity.

Tory supporters are happy they get to stick it to people. The absolute most stark and damning differences between the parties and the country.

Yeah pretty much tbh

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 01:23 PM
If Nicola wants to play games then maybe she shouldn't cherish in the british money and success.

She cant have it all

These are not games.
It was agreed by uk government a new ref will be granted if circumstances change. You cant deny brexit is such a change so Nicola has a point wanting a new ref.

arista
13-12-2019, 01:24 PM
typical aggressive war mongering England

no wonder Scotland want to cast you aside to live with Wales


No Not Typical
We Protect our Property.


Like the Falklands



Feel The Force

Denver
13-12-2019, 01:26 PM
These are not games.
It was agreed by uk government a new ref will be granted if circumstances change. You cant deny brexit is such a change so Nicola has a point wanting a new ref.

She wants a referendum while still being fed by the UK.

Me personally I'd give it to them but pull everything not scottish out of scotland put up a hard border with very strict immigration rules and make them pay a divorce bill.

Liam-
13-12-2019, 01:27 PM
She wants a referendum while still being fed by the UK.

Me personally I'd give it to them but pull everything not scottish out of scotland put up a hard border with very strict immigration rules and make them pay a divorce bill.

Alright Kim

Denver
13-12-2019, 01:28 PM
She has to make a choice to be part of the UK or have nothing to do with it but she cant have both

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 01:29 PM
Labour supporters are disappointed that we're not able to properly fund the NHS or end austerity.

Tory supporters are happy they get to stick it to people. The absolute most stark and damning differences between the parties and the country.

what a sour grapes response and its just your summary and is so massively subjective and insulting it beggars belief

"tory supporters" "labour supporters"

yes lets just create two groups and make up some "facts" to smear one set and paint the others out as saints


Not gracious

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 01:30 PM
She wants a referendum while still being fed by the UK.

Me personally I'd give it to them but pull everything not scottish out of scotland put up a hard border with very strict immigration rules and make them pay a divorce bill.

Do you realise #scousenotEnglish is trending on twitter? You love wearing the avatars and sig pics and you're a sun supporter. Do you want to block up the tunnel too?

Denver
13-12-2019, 01:31 PM
what a sour grapes response and its just your summary and is so massively subjective and insulting it beggars belief

"tory supporters" "labour supporters"

yes lets just create two groups and make up some "facts" to smear one set and paint the others out as saints


Not gracious

It would make sense if thousands and thousands of life long labour supporters didnt vote the tories but the fact is they did because they could trust their own party

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 01:33 PM
what a sour grapes response and its just your summary and is so massively subjective and insulting it beggars belief

"tory supporters" "labour supporters"

yes lets just create two groups and make up some "facts" to smear one set and paint the others out as saints


Not gracious

It's not, look at posters in this thread. I had you telling me I don't understand people, Adam trying his best to offend everyone, and I'm sour grapes? First post I made today was about how I misjudged the electorate.

There is no tory optimism that stretches a millimeter past #getbrexitdone.

arista
13-12-2019, 01:41 PM
1205401731980578817

Young Grace Getting her Words in..............................

arista
13-12-2019, 02:13 PM
The PM was live
Parliament is back on Monday

He is going to Level Up
Unite this nation.


[15:13

'Let the healing begin'

Boris Johnson said: "We are going to unite and level up."

He urged "everyone to find closure and to let the healing begin".]


https://news.sky.com/story/general-election-2019-the-nation-decides-uk-votes-in-final-hour-before-polls-close-11884904

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 02:22 PM
1205401731980578817

Young Grace Getting her Words in..............................

right there is the problem, she cannot see past her own nose and is in love with her own opinion - i wonder what life experience she actually has?Well done to our Iain for giving it to her.

Brother Leon
13-12-2019, 02:32 PM
Yay. Anti Semiticism lost. The guy who has a book claiming Jews run the media is our Prine Minister. Terrific stuff...

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 02:36 PM
It's not, look at posters in this thread. I had you telling me I don't understand people, Adam trying his best to offend everyone, and I'm sour grapes? First post I made today was about how I misjudged the electorate.

There is no tory optimism that stretches a millimeter past #getbrexitdone.

He is SNP anyway so :joker:

arista
13-12-2019, 02:51 PM
Jack Straw
on BBCnewsHD and SkyNewsHD
said Corbyn was the problem

Toy Soldier
13-12-2019, 02:51 PM
The PM was live
Parliament is back on Monday

He is going to Level Up
Unite this nation.


[15:13

'Let the healing begin'

Boris Johnson said: "We are going to unite and level up."

He urged "everyone to find closure and to let the healing begin".]


https://news.sky.com/story/general-election-2019-the-nation-decides-uk-votes-in-final-hour-before-polls-close-11884904

Good luck with that one Boris; Scotland hasn't healed from the last IndyRef and it was 5 years ago. Brexit is 10x worse and the rift in the UK isn't going to heal for generations.

arista
13-12-2019, 02:53 PM
Good luck with that one Boris; Scotland hasn't healed from the last IndyRef and it was 5 years ago. Brexit is 10x worse and the rift in the UK isn't going to heal for generations.


Sure Except the Toxic SNPers


No IndyRef2 for you
he ain't giving you it.............................

arista
13-12-2019, 02:56 PM
The Markets are Up
its good news
Conservative stand alone is back

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 03:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/N1FoHHLl.jpg
for Arista

Toy Soldier
13-12-2019, 03:05 PM
Sure Except the Toxic SNPers


No IndyRef2 for you
he ain't giving you it.............................

so 81% of constituencies in Scotland, then?

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 03:05 PM
The Markets are Up
its good news
Conservative stand alone is back

nothing to do with cons or "**** business" bojo

markets welcome a clear result and no uncertainty

but then you know that, but a nice try spinning it

arista
13-12-2019, 03:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/N1FoHHLl.jpg
for Arista


how nice

arista
13-12-2019, 03:07 PM
so 81% of constituencies in Scotland, then?

No its more 60% to 70%

arista
13-12-2019, 03:09 PM
right there is the problem, she cannot see past her own nose and is in love with her own opinion - i wonder what life experience she actually has?Well done to our Iain for giving it to her.



Yes he was on the LBC late shift
so watched it going down.

Toy Soldier
13-12-2019, 03:11 PM
No its more 60% to 70%

??? I said constituencies.

It's 48 out of 59 Westminster constituencies which is 81.35%. Back to school for you, arista :umm2:

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 03:28 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2pt7wK9l.jpg

for Arista

arista
13-12-2019, 03:31 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELrhfxTX0AYekYY?format=jpg&name=small

for Twosugars

Matthew.
13-12-2019, 03:54 PM
Actually the PM has every right to deny it and he will do and hopefully make Scotland suffer for it

I try not to get involved in political debate anymore on here but I’m going to reply to this. I am Scottish and I find this post quite offensive tbh. Everyone is entitled to their political views, and you are entitled to oppose Scottish independence. I, on the other hand, support independence. But wanting us to “suffer” for wanting independence? Why would you say something like that? That seems very extreme. As I understand, you voted for the Conservatives yesterday. That’s not an opinion I agree with at all, and can’t imagine myself ever agreeing with, but wanting those who disagree with you to suffer? That’s just so wrong, Adam, it gives off vibes of the right-wing extremists going about eg Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson, and I’m sure that’s not what you want to be like. And tbqh, it’s this type of attitude that makes us want independence because it just shows that you couldn’t give a flying **** about Scotland, so why do you want to keep us around?

The Slim Reaper
13-12-2019, 04:05 PM
1205532241104920578

Already making history :smug:

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 04:36 PM
All markets up and many that were to be affected by threat of nationalisation posting double digit returns

great day for investors/business

UserSince2005
13-12-2019, 04:37 PM
so happy, lets his reign continue for ever.

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2pt7wK9l.jpg

for Arista

This is scarily accurate can't even laugh at it :facepalm:

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 05:04 PM
This is scarily accurate can't even laugh at it :facepalm:

Its a silly picture made to be shared on social media to trigger a certain audience.

UserSince2005
13-12-2019, 05:06 PM
This is scarily accurate can't even laugh at it :facepalm:

Trump has already said he is not interested in the NHS. He literally said he wouldn't touch it if you offered it him on a silver platter. and can you blame him?

The whole idea that Trump wants to buy the NHS is nothing but labour made up lies.

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 05:08 PM
Trump has already said he is not interested in the NHS. He literally said he wouldn't touch it if you offered it him on a silver platter. and can you blame him?

The whole idea that Trump wants to buy the NHS is nothing but labour made up lies.

apparently its on its knees so not sure why anyone would want to buy it:shrug:


(by the way i read that Americans would not want our NHS, they think the system is crazy)

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:09 PM
Trump has already said he is not interested in the NHS. He literally said he wouldn't touch it if you offered it him on a silver platter. and can you blame him?

The whole idea that Trump wants to buy the NHS is nothing but labour made up lies.

Keep telling yourself that when you're waiting for a doctors appointment and then get told it's being privatised .

Josy
13-12-2019, 05:17 PM
Actually the PM has every right to deny it and he will do and hopefully make Scotland suffer for itWhy on earth would you hope for or wish suffering on anyone? Wow.

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 05:18 PM
Keep telling yourself that when you're waiting for a doctors appointment and then get told it's being privatised .

you know we have private healthcare in the UK dont you?

SherzyK
13-12-2019, 05:21 PM
Why on earth would you hope for or wish suffering on anyone? Wow.

My thoughts exactly.

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:21 PM
you know we have private healthcare in the UK dont you?

Yes and the way things are going the NHS and other healthcare will get privatised.

Josy
13-12-2019, 05:22 PM
I saw someone earlier say that in the 1600's the Dutch hunted down their PM and ate him

So yeah could be a plan [emoji23]

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 05:22 PM
Yes and the way things are going the NHS and other healthcare will get privatised.

Exactly. It has already started. Let's see what happens next

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:22 PM
It's a likely scenario



If you want to troll put some effort in.
They dont want to "buy" nhs, their big pharma wants to sell drugs to nhs, at much higher prices.

Prices will definitely go up drastically! , I'm dreading these next 5 years !

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 05:24 PM
I saw someone earlier say that in the 1600's the Dutch hunted down their PM and ate him

So yeah could be a plan [emoji23]

Bojo would make quite a roast :laugh:

Cherie
13-12-2019, 05:24 PM
I saw someone earlier say that in the 1600's the Dutch hunted down their PM and ate him

So yeah could be a plan [emoji23]

:laugh:

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:25 PM
This country what a mess!!! :bored:

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 05:26 PM
Prices will definitely go up drastically! , I'm dreading these next 5 years !

On average US prices are 2.5 times higher

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 05:28 PM
It's a likely scenario



If you want to troll put some effort in.
They dont want to "buy" nhs, their big pharma wants to sell drugs to nhs, at much higher prices.
just another myth from far left labour im afraid and another reason they lost again

https://fullfact.org/health/500-million-nhs-drug-prices/


please dont be personal, if you cant hack a debate then dont click the thread

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:28 PM
On average US prices are 2.5 times higher

Their healthcare system is a joke !

Barry.
13-12-2019, 05:29 PM
Why was my comment deleted but not Adams. You hate the Scots too eh?

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 05:30 PM
This country what a mess!!! :bored:

Then why not look to move to a "better" country? :shrug:

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:31 PM
just another myth from far left labour im afraid and another reason they lost again

https://fullfact.org/health/500-million-nhs-drug-prices/


please dont be personal, if you cant hack a debate then dont click the thread

Keep telling yourself it's a myth :idc:

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:32 PM
Then why not look to move to a "better" country? :shrug:

Don't tempt me ! :nono: , plenty of nice countries to emigrate to as well .

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 05:33 PM
just another myth from far left labour im afraid and another reason they lost again

https://fullfact.org/health/500-million-nhs-drug-prices/


please dont be personal, if you cant hack a debate then dont click the thread

Read your own link.

Labour calculations may be extreme but that does not change the fact.

I call out your trolling bc stuff you write does not reflect your voting record. SNP position on nhs is close to labour. Why then you push tory propaganda if you vote snp?
To create drama and arguments ie trolling

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:34 PM
Read your own link.

Labour calculations may be extreme but that does not change the fact.

I call out your trolling bc stuff you write does not reflect your voting record. SNP position on nhs is close to labour. Why then you push tory propaganda if you vote snp?
To create drama and arguments ie trolling

LT sounds like a Tory

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 05:34 PM
Then why not look to move to a "better" country? :shrug:

Dont do that:nono:
This is GH country as much as yours. Dont suggest emigration to those you disagree politically. You dont have a monopoly here

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 05:35 PM
LT sounds like a Tory

All for a crack it seems bc he votes SNP

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 05:36 PM
Read your own link.

Labour calculations may be extreme but that does not change the fact.

I call out your trolling bc stuff you write does not reflect your voting record. SNP position on nhs is close to labour. Why then you push tory propaganda if you vote snp?
To create drama and arguments ie trolling

What i post and vote is of no concern to you, just stick to your own posts and leave personal comments out of it as its against Tibb rules

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:37 PM
Dont do that:nono:
This is GH country as much as yours. Dont suggest emigration to those you disagree politically. You dont have a monopoly here

I'm not going anywhere but I'm tempted to :joker:

Josy
13-12-2019, 05:38 PM
Why was my comment deleted but not Adams. You hate the Scots too eh?I removed any comments accusing others of trolling.

I am Scottish.

Josy
13-12-2019, 05:39 PM
Read your own link.



Labour calculations may be extreme but that does not change the fact.



I call out your trolling bc stuff you write does not reflect your voting record. SNP position on nhs is close to labour. Why then you push tory propaganda if you vote snp?

To create drama and arguments ie trollingPlease stop accusing others of trolling, its inflammatory and causes trouble on the threads. Use report.

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 05:40 PM
What i post and vote is of no concern to you, just stick to your own posts and leave personal comments out of it as its against Tibb rules

I comment on your posts bc they are public here.

One post: voting SNP

Other posts : tory


Now, what is going on here? :pipe:

Josy
13-12-2019, 05:41 PM
People can support more than one party, but since we are only allowed one vote then they have to choose :shrug:

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 05:43 PM
I comment on your posts bc they are public here.

One post: voting SNP

Other posts : tory


Now, what is going on here? :pipe:

In your opinion and it may be wrong. Perhaps ask why many labour voters voted tory yesterday - perhaps that is a better question for you to ponder as you are a left wing chap?

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 05:44 PM
People can support more than one party, but since we are only allowed one vote then they have to choose :shrug:

But how can they support two parties with diametrically opposing views?

Btw thank you for the previous reminder. I reported the poster.

Josy
13-12-2019, 05:46 PM
But how can they support two parties with diametrically opposing views?



Btw thank you for the previous reminder. I reported the poster.They may support certain things from each parties manifesto

GoldHeart
13-12-2019, 05:48 PM
They may support certain things from each parties manifesto

SNP & Tories are very different

Josy
13-12-2019, 05:49 PM
SNP & Tories are very differentYes I'm aware of that, still doesnt mean that people arent allowed to agree with certain policies from both and it's certainly not against any rules.

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 05:50 PM
They may support certain things from each parties manifesto

Rum business in this case imo.
Anyway as you say no need to air it all here. Mods will intervene if necessary as they have done so successfully in the past.

Josy
13-12-2019, 05:50 PM
Rum business in this case imo.

Anyway as you say no need to air it all here. Mods will intervene if necessary as they have done so successfully in the past.Yes they will.

Crimson Dynamo
13-12-2019, 05:52 PM
Having an understanding of all political views is something we should all welcome and not try and paint a negative

jet
13-12-2019, 05:59 PM
But how can they support two parties with diametrically opposing views?

Btw thank you for the previous reminder. I reported the poster.

Many Labour voters voted Tory this time round. I'm sure you could find some to ask?

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 06:04 PM
Having an understanding of all political views is something we should all welcome and not try and paint a negative

Absolutely.

I just wish you gave us your other views sometimes, the ones you follow in the ballot box, not just tories.
You are a capable poster so have every confidence you can do it :)

Twosugars
13-12-2019, 06:06 PM
Many Labour voters voted Tory this time round. I'm sure you could find some to ask?

Why look far if I have LT here with SNP and tory combo. That will do nicely :)

jet
13-12-2019, 06:09 PM
Why look far if I have LT here with SNP and tory combo. That will do nicely :)

Nah, one person doesn't make a representative sample, but LT is a good start. :hee: