Light at the end of the tunnel - Covid [vaccine news]

[user104658]

I also still legitimately have no idea when my second jab is, nor how they're going to contact me :think:. Doing it by letter again seems cumbersome, I dunno why they didn't take a mobile number or email address or something...

[bots]

I also still legitimately have no idea when my second jab is, nor how they're going to contact me :think:. Doing it by letter again seems cumbersome, I dunno why they didn't take a mobile number or email address or something...

i booked both appointments at the same time, was it a vaccination centre? Maybe you can go online and book it/reschedule it

[Cherie]

That was the worst side effect for me. Feeling left out.

same :sad:

[Cherie]

I also still legitimately have no idea when my second jab is, nor how they're going to contact me :think:. Doing it by letter again seems cumbersome, I dunno why they didn't take a mobile number or email address or something...

they will text you or send a letter, that is what happened with my Aunt at any rate

both of ours are booked as we did it online and it books them both out at the same time

actually yeah if you have your NHS number or even if you haven't you can book your second jab yourself online

[Vicky.]

My dad had to book his second one at the same time as his first.

Though that culd be as hes deemed VERY high risk as has no spleen, various other issues, and age.

[user104658]

i booked both appointments at the same time, was it a vaccination centre? Maybe you can go online and book it/reschedule it

I didn't book, they sent a letter with a date and time and I just rolled up when it said to :joker:. I'm assuming I'll get another one at some point. It's still a while 'til I'm at 12 weeks, I'm sure I only had it 4 or 5 weeks ago. I dunno. Time is meaningless these days.

[Cherie]

I didn't book, they sent a letter with a date and time and I just rolled up when it said to :joker:. I'm assuming I'll get another one at some point. It's still a while 'til I'm at 12 weeks, I'm sure I only had it 4 or 5 weeks ago. I dunno. Time is meaningless these days.

even if you didn't book, you can book your second jab online in England anyway, maybe its different across the border :hehe:

[bots]

it's basically 3 months after you had your first jab, which is quite a while :laugh:

With the AZ vaccine the longer between the jabs, the more protection you get, so i certainly wouldnt panic about it

[bots]

The percentage of over 50s vaccinated has hit 95% in England, NHS data shows.

The take-up among those aged 45-49 is at 59% after they started being offered the jab earlier this month.

But uptake among care home staff - one of the first groups to be offered the jab - is still around 80% despite attempts to get more to come forward.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands vaccination numbers

First Dose: 3.635.235

Second Dose: 943.197

Total: 4.578.432 out of 17 million population

[Smithy]

Fully vaccinated ladies :cheer:

[Jessica.]

Fully vaccinated ladies :cheer:Congratulations!

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[Zizu]

Today in London ... not a mask in sight

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[Beso]

Fully vaccinated ladies :cheer:

Get out there and spread your germs to the unfortunate
Unvaccinated then.

[arista]

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[arista]

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Brussels remains locked in a bitter battle
with AstraZeneca over supplies

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9507881/Britain-outwits-EU-secure-100m-vaccine-doses-French-firm.html

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[Vanessa]

Italy finally getting somewhere with the vaccine rollout.

[Vanessa]

I have my second vaccine on the 5th of May :love:

[Zizu]

I have my second vaccine on the 5th of May :love:



11th of May for me ... if there’s not a shortage ... I keep hearing stories ..


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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/25/22/42203886-9510199-image-m-2_1619387266527.jpg
London, yesterday


You are wrong.

[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/25/22/42203886-9510199-image-m-2_1619387266527.jpg
London, yesterday


You are wrong.

I wonder if she has ever had any of the following to travel :idc:

Which travel vaccines are free?
The following travel vaccines are available free on the NHS if your GP practice is signed up to provide vaccination (immunisation) services.

polio (given as a combined diphtheria/tetanus/polio jab)
typhoid
hepatitis A
cholera
These vaccines are free because they protect against diseases thought to represent the greatest risk to public health if they were brought into the country.

Which travel vaccines will I have to pay for?
You'll have to pay for travel vaccinations against:

hepatitis B
Japanese encephalitis
meningitis vaccines
rabies
tick-borne encephalitis
tuberculosis (TB)
yellow fever

[Cherie]

EU taking Astrazeneca to court over contract fulfilment

[bots]

what the eu don't seem to have grasped is that the more threats and legal action they throw at AZ, the more they will delay their vaccine delivery. They don't seem to have a clue

[Cherie]

11th of May for me ... if there’s not a shortage ... I keep hearing stories ..


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Not heard of one person due their second vaccine who didn’t get it, stories from where people you know who haven’t got it?

You only need look at the daily figures to see the number getting it

[Cherie]

People over the age of 42 invited to attend for their vaccine from today

[Zizu]

That sounds a bit ‘specific’ ... don’t they usually say over 40’s or something ?


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[DouglasS]

That sounds a bit ‘specific’ ... don’t they usually say over 40’s or something ?


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Yes very specific, I reckon it’s the data to ensure all required second doses go ahead first

[Cherie]

That sounds a bit ‘specific’ ... don’t they usually say over 40’s or something ?


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vaccination
Use this service to book a coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccination or manage your appointments.

If you've already booked a vaccination appointment through a GP or local NHS service, you do not need to book again using this service.

Who can use this service
You can only use this service if any of the following apply:

you're aged 42 or over
you'll turn 42 before 1 July 2021
you're at high risk from COVID-19 (clinically extremely vulnerable)
you have a condition that puts you at higher risk (clinically vulnerable)
you have a learning disability
you're an eligible frontline health or social care worker
you get a Carer's Allowance, get support following an assessment by your local authority or your GP record shows you're a carer
If you're an eligible unpaid carer but you cannot book an appointment, speak to your GP surgery.

Find out more about who can get the COVID-19 vacci

[bots]

the age ranges will correspond to a population that can be given their first jab while still being able to give people their second injection. It's just a method of flow control

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: no new vaccinations done today

because not many are interested to do that on a national holiday

[Cherie]

25% of adults fully vaccinated

65% first doses

[arista]

25% of adults fully vaccinated

65% first doses


[People vaccinated up to and including 26 April 2021

First dose: 33,843,580

Second dose: 13,201,811]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

single dose of a coronavirus vaccine can reduce household transmission of the virus by up to half, a study shows.
Those given a first dose of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccines - and who became infected three weeks later - were between 38% and 49% less likely to pass the virus on than unvaccinated people, PHE found.
Health Secretary Matt Hancock described the study's results as "terrific news".
He has urged "everybody to get their vaccines as soon as they are eligible".
In the study, protection against Covid was seen from about 14 days after vaccination, with similar levels of protection regardless of age of cases or contacts, PHE said in a statement.
It added that this protection was on top of the reduced risk of a vaccinated person developing symptomatic infection in the first place, which is around 60 to 65% - four weeks after one dose of either vaccine.
When will I get the vaccine?
How many people have been vaccinated so far?
Covid vaccine offered to 42-year-olds in England
Dr Mary Ramsay, head of immunisation at PHE, said: "Vaccines are vital in helping us return to a normal way of life. Not only do vaccines reduce the severity of illness and prevent hundreds of deaths every day, we now see they also have an additional impact on reducing the chance of passing Covid-19 on to others."
But, while she said the findings were "encouraging", she said it was important people continue to act like they have the virus, "practise good hand hygiene and follow social distancing guidance".
Households are high-risk settings for transmission, meaning the study provides early evidence on the impact of vaccines in preventing onward transmission, PHE said.
Similar results could be expected in other settings with similar transmission risks, such as shared accommodation and prisons, it added.

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[AnnieK]

V day for me today :eek:

[bots]

V day for me today :eek:

wooo :dance:

[Cherie]

V day for me today :eek:

Don’t worry you will be fine :love:

[Cherie]

The NHS app is being adjusted to include vaccination or negative covid test information

[Zizu]

The NHS app is being adjusted to include vaccination or negative covid test information



Including these home testing kit results ?


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[Zizu]

The NHS app is being adjusted to include vaccination or negative covid test information



Are you talking about the NHS app itself rather than the NHS Covid19 one ?


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[Ammi]

V day for me today :eek:

...:love:...you’ll feel so great to be vaccinated, Annie...

[Cherie]

Including these home testing kit results ?


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No they are not acceptable for going abroad? I think this is to facilitate travel

[Cherie]

Are you talking about the NHS app itself rather than the NHS Covid19 one ?


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The app they created for covid contact tracing, what other app is there :suspect:

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-nhs-app-to-be-used-as-covid-passport-for-international-travel-grant-shapps-confirms-12289071

oh it looks like a different app

"It will be the NHS app that is used for people when they book appointments with the NHS and so on, to be able to show you've had a vaccine or that you've had testing," he added

[bots]

The app they created for covid contact tracing, what other app is there :suspect:

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-nhs-app-to-be-used-as-covid-passport-for-international-travel-grant-shapps-confirms-12289071

oh it looks like a different app

"It will be the NHS app that is used for people when they book appointments with the NHS and so on, to be able to show you've had a vaccine or that you've had testing," he added

apple and google blocked them from using the app for holding personal details etc ... it goes against their usage policy for tracking

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: side effect centre Lareb has received in last two weeks another 4 reports of nasty side effects from the AZ vaccine

in total now 12 reports out of 1.5 million jabs


reports are all women between 23 and 65 years, in total Lareb received 42.000 complaints out of all vaccines given, out of 5.5 million jabs

[Zizu]

The app they created for covid contact tracing, what other app is there :suspect:

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-nhs-app-to-be-used-as-covid-passport-for-international-travel-grant-shapps-confirms-12289071

oh it looks like a different app

"It will be the NHS app that is used for people when they book appointments with the NHS and so on, to be able to show you've had a vaccine or that you've had testing," he added



Ta


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[arista]

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From the Downing St. Live Feed

[bots]

Matt Hancock says uptake of the first dose among the over-50s is "phenomenally" high at over 95%.

[AnnieK]

First AZ jab done yesterday. Feel a bit achy and my arm weighs about 10 tonne today but ok other than that.

[Cherie]

First AZ jab done yesterday. Feel a bit achy and my arm weighs about 10 tonne today but ok other than that.

Take it easy Annie

[bots]

First AZ jab done yesterday. Feel a bit achy and my arm weighs about 10 tonne today but ok other than that.

cool, time to punch Arista with your 10 ton arm :laugh: In 3 weeks you will be strutting around ... it's a wonderful feeling

[Ammi]

First AZ jab done yesterday. Feel a bit achy and my arm weighs about 10 tonne today but ok other than that.

...:love:...first step to a fully vaccinated Annie...:flutter:...hopefully you’ll have no other side side effects than being a bit achy but the symptoms only generally last 24hr-ish anyway...

[AnnieK]

:love: thanks all

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/28/16/42327536-9520263-image-m-7_1619623068235.jpg
[Dementia sufferer, 74, gets two
AstraZeneca Covid jabs in 5 DAYS after
bungling medics wrongly invited her twice]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9520263/Dementia-sufferer-74-gets-two-AstraZeneca-Covid-jabs-FIVE-DAYS.html

Not the best person to do an Error on.


[Grandmother, 74, got her first AstraZeneca
jab on January 23
But she then received another dose of
the same vaccine just five days later
Blunder was only spotted when she had
two jab cards at her third appointment
Grandmother, who was not named,
suffered no ill effects but family was furious
Scientists say there is 'no particular risk' from being
jabbed twice in five days]

[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/28/16/42327536-9520263-image-m-7_1619623068235.jpg
[Dementia sufferer, 74, gets two
AstraZeneca Covid jabs in 5 DAYS after
bungling medics wrongly invited her twice]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9520263/Dementia-sufferer-74-gets-two-AstraZeneca-Covid-jabs-FIVE-DAYS.html

Not the best person to do an Error on.


[Grandmother, 74, got her first AstraZeneca
jab on January 23
But she then received another dose of
the same vaccine just five days later
Blunder was only spotted when she had
two jab cards at her third appointment
Grandmother, who was not named,
suffered no ill effects but family was furious
Scientists say there is 'no particular risk' from being
jabbed twice in five days]

how was that not picked up on screening when you attend your appt

Have you had your jab Arista?

[bots]

how was that not picked up on screening when you attend your appt

Have you had your jab Arista?

it would have to be an unusual set of circumstances that led to it happening .... approximately 1 in 30 million chance of it happening at a guess :laugh:

[Cherie]

it would have to be an unusual set of circumstances that led to it happening .... approximately 1 in 30 million chance of it happening at a guess :laugh:

:laugh:

wonder if she will need a booster :think:

if she has dementia, she would have had someone take her to her appointment you would have thought as well ...her family are furious though

[bots]

:laugh:

wonder if she will need a booster :think:

if she has dementia, she would have had someone take her to her appointment you would have thought as well ...her family are furious though

she would also need to have 2 nhs numbers ... not impossible, but again, very unlikely

[Cherie]

she would also need to have 2 nhs numbers ... not impossible, but again, very unlikely

:oh: probably why Mr C waited so long to get his, she had two

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0IM1GUWQAAp9lo?format=jpg&name=small

Van Tam giving 42 year Health Secretary
his first Vaccine.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands total of vaccinations first and second dose combined: 5.2 million

calculated down, a error was made, first said 220k too many

[Cherie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0IM1GUWQAAp9lo?format=jpg&name=small

Van Tam giving 42 year Health Secretary
his first Vaccine.

at least he kept his shirt on

[Beso]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0IM1GUWQAAp9lo?format=jpg&name=small

Van Tam giving 42 year Health Secretary
his first Vaccine.

Give the brave little soldier a lollipop for holding back the tears

[Scarlett.]

Had my vaccine today, the AstraZenaca one :)

[bots]

Had my vaccine today, the AstraZenaca one :)

will wait for you saying why meeeeeee tomorrow :laugh:

[Zizu]

First AZ jab done yesterday. Feel a bit achy and my arm weighs about 10 tonne today but ok other than that.



Hang in there :)


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[Zizu]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/28/16/42327536-9520263-image-m-7_1619623068235.jpg
[Dementia sufferer, 74, gets two
AstraZeneca Covid jabs in 5 DAYS after
bungling medics wrongly invited her twice]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9520263/Dementia-sufferer-74-gets-two-AstraZeneca-Covid-jabs-FIVE-DAYS.html

Not the best person to do an Error on.


[Grandmother, 74, got her first AstraZeneca
jab on January 23
But she then received another dose of
the same vaccine just five days later
Blunder was only spotted when she had
two jab cards at her third appointment
Grandmother, who was not named,
suffered no ill effects but family was furious
Scientists say there is 'no particular risk' from being
jabbed twice in five days]



Maybe they should take the chance of doing some tests on a person who’s had a double dose all at once


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[Zizu]

Had my vaccine today, the AstraZenaca one :)



Excellent


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[bots]

Vaccination is open to over 40's from today

[Vicky.]

'Herd immunity', from a vaccine that doesnt stop you catching it, and 'reduces' the chance of passing it on but doesnt actually stop it?!

I mean, its great that other countries are starting to catch up, but..I feel stating the continent will be 'immune' is stretching the truth somewhat :laugh:

In less danger, for sure. Especially if the bulk of those high risk (preferably all but not always doable) have been vaccinated and are therefore 'safe' if they do catch it though.

Edit - My understanding of herd immunity was that X% of people cannot catch (and therefore pass on) a virus due to vaccination (or theoretically, natural immunity, though I think I read this has never happened yet?), so those who cannot be vaccinated, or arent for whatever reason...are unlikely to get it as most around them will be unable to give it to them in the first place. I may be understanding it wrong though

[bots]

'Herd immunity', from a vaccine that doesnt stop you catching it, and 'reduces' the chance of passing it on but doesnt actually stop it?!

I mean, its great that other countries are starting to catch up, but..I feel stating the continent will be 'immune' is stretching the truth somewhat :laugh:

In less danger, for sure. Especially if the bulk of those high risk (preferably all but not always doable) have been vaccinated and are therefore 'safe' if they do catch it though.

Edit - My understanding of herd immunity was that X% of people cannot catch (and therefore pass on) a virus due to vaccination (or theoretically, natural immunity, though I think I read this has never happened yet?), so those who cannot be vaccinated, or arent for whatever reason...are unlikely to get it as most around them will be unable to give it to them in the first place. I may be understanding it wrong though

yes, the idea of herd immunity is that if the majority have anti bodies, the virus can't survive and therefore cant be passed on to someone else not immunised.

We need to be careful about terminology here. Vaccination will never stop you catching a virus, it just means a persons anti bodies attack it before it can take hold and replicate and cause subsequent damage and also it won't build up in a quantity large enough to pass it on. These things are never black and white, there is always a theoretical chance that something can be passed on, but the conditions for doing so become increasingly less likely.

Scientists can be very misleading with their studies. It was like when they said covid could survive on a surface for 10 days ... well yes, maybe under specific lab conditions thats true, but it's just not realistic in normal conditions.

I'm very positive about it now, the hospital stats show the vaccine is working, and thats good enough for me at the moment :laugh:

[Vicky.]

I'm very positive about it now, the hospital stats show the vaccine is working, and thats good enough for me at the moment :laugh:

Oh for sure. its all good news really, the more vaccines get done. It was just..seeing herd immunity like that, struck me as..well wrong really!

So many I know are still trying to play down the obvious sucess of the vaccine with 'oh lockdown brought numbers down, vaccine maybe helped a bit but yay, lockdown!!!!''..often followed by 'I think we should stay in lockdown longer, just to be sure' as if...theres any need for further ****ing lockdown right now with numbers as they are. I mean, am not ruling out in the future, if a disaster happens. But to me, those cheering for lockdown to continue are just being hugely unrealistic and tbh quite selfish too..

Magical thinking also really. To convince yourself its the lockdown that brought the numbers down, despite the lockdown being relatively lax, and had been going on ages before the numbers actually started falling, and you could pretty much directly correlate the falls to rise in vaccination numbers :rolleyes:

[Ammi]

Had my vaccine today, the AstraZenaca one :)

...you...:hug:...

[arista]

[People vaccinated up to and including 29 April 2021

First dose: 34,216,087

Second dose: 14,532,875]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

[Vicky.]

I cant bloody get mine now apparently. 'Too young' (for now). Which is good to hear with how decrepit I feel mind, but yeah.

Annoyed I fannyed about a bit while our surgery was offering to all. Now it will probably be months :laugh:

[smudgie]

Hubby and I are booked in at the doctors for our second Pfizer jab next Friday.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hubby and I are booked in at the doctors for our second Pfizer jab next Friday.

:dance:

[Liam-]

Mum had her second jab this morning, I’m getting my first next week, I can finally stop hibernating

[Ammi]

Hubby and I are booked in at the doctors for our second Pfizer jab next Friday.

Mum had her second jab this morning, I’m getting my first next week, I can finally stop hibernating

...:lovedup:...I’m so thrilled for you both...

[smudgie]

...:lovedup:...I’m so thrilled for you both...

Thanks Ammi..I feel a haircut happening soon.:blush:

[bots]

it's great the way we can verify the vaccination progress right here, so we know the government isn't spinning a story :laugh:

[hijaxers]

Hubby and I are booked in at the doctors for our second Pfizer jab next Friday.

Mine is Wednesday :cheer2:

[arista]

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[LaLaLand]

Just had my call for my jab - next Thursday! Finally! :)

[Cherie]

Just had my call for my jab - next Thursday! Finally! :)

whooo

[Vanessa]

Second vaccine done :dance:

[bots]

Great stuff Vanessa, i get my 2nd dose in a couple of weeks

[Zizu]

Second vaccine done :dance:



Excellent !

Which one ... plus let us know of any side effects please


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[Vanessa]

Excellent !

Which one ... plus let us know of any side effects please


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Oxford Astrazenica.
No side effects so far.

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: not all elderly (70+) people vaccinated yet

[Nicky91]

Germany: health minister Spahn said they are about to give green light for AZ vaccine as well

more to speed up vaccine rollout rate even more with one extra



but they are going to right way, the effect of the ones vaccinated is already showing a bit in the hospitalisation and daily new case numbers

they went from 24k to 18k daily new cases in a week which is good

[arista]

Total — 1st dose
34,934,171

Total — 2nd dose
16,291,719

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

[Nicky91]

Total — 1st dose
34,934,171

Total — 2nd dose
16,291,719

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

in your faces dumb EU


long live the superior elite UK :clap1: :clap1: superior at the vaccine rollout compared to rest of the world

[arista]

Vaccine News Briefing Live both news channels.


Van Dam

[Cherie]

38 and 39 year olds to be called from tomorrow

67% of adults first jabbed

35% fully vaccinated

[arista]

Covid jabs offer to 38 and 39-year-olds
in England


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57088018

[Kate!]

I'm getting my 2nd jab tomorrow afternoon. Pfizer.

[smudgie]

Covid jabs offer to 38 and 39-year-olds
in England


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57088018

One of our local clinics are having a walk in for over 30s starting Monday.

[Vanessa]

I'm getting my 2nd jab tomorrow afternoon. Pfizer.

That's great :love:

[Kate!]

That's great :love:

thank you lovely x

[Zizu]

I'm getting my 2nd jab tomorrow afternoon. Pfizer.



Had my second Pfizer yesterday !!

No issues whatsoever .. in fact my arm hasn’t been half as sore as it was last time

Presumably we have to wait another few weeks before we’re fully covered ??


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[Cherie]

Had my second Pfizer yesterday !!

No issues whatsoever .. in fact my arm hasn’t been half as sore as it was last time

Presumably we have to wait another few weeks before we’re fully covered ??


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why didnt you ask the person who vaccinated you :laugh:

[bots]

Had my second Pfizer yesterday !!

No issues whatsoever .. in fact my arm hasn’t been half as sore as it was last time

Presumably we have to wait another few weeks before we’re fully covered ??


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3 weeks and you will be fully covered

[Braden]

Getting my second dose this Friday! :love:

[Zizu]

3 weeks and you will be fully covered



Trouble is they’re probably dropping the mask wearing in high schools next Monday and we’re only a few miles away from Bolton


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[Zizu]

Getting my second dose this Friday! :love:



Excellent !


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[Ammi]

Getting my second dose this Friday! :love:

…:lovedup:…Super Braden…

[Vanessa]

Trouble is they’re probably dropping the mask wearing in high schools next Monday and we’re only a few miles away from Bolton


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I heard they're going to keep the masks in areas affected by the Indian variant.

[GoldHeart]

I'm getting my 2nd jab tomorrow afternoon. Pfizer.

I had my first Pfizer yesterday, no side effects just a sore arm.

[Kate!]

Just had my 2nd jab. Feeling fine. Xx

[arista]

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[Vanessa]

Just had my 2nd jab. Feeling fine. Xx

Thats good to hear :love:

[Kate!]

Thats good to hear :love:

Thank you lovely. Xx

[hijaxers]

Just had my 2nd jab. Feeling fine. Xx

Excellent Kate its nice to see everyone is having their jabs.

[smudgie]

Just had my 2nd jab. Feeling fine. Xx

Brilliant Kate. X
Pleased you have had it.
Hopefully we can all get back to something like a normal life shortly.

[arista]

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[arista]

UK

1st Dose :36,115,955


2nd Dose : 19,319,010

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

[Zizu]

Sooo some nice news ...
I had my second jab on Tuesday ( hurrah ) and she stuck it higher than before - at the top of my arm , right on my shoulder !!

Anyways , my arm has hardly bothered me at all compared to the first one PLUS my shoulder which has been painful for years has suddenly stopped hurting ( when I raise it) !!!


What’s that all about ??

Could she have pierced a problematic nerve or something ??


I just hope it’s not a temporary fix :)


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[GoldHeart]

Sooo some nice news ...
I had my second jab on Tuesday ( hurrah ) and she stuck it really high up , right on my shoulder !!

Anyways my arm has hardly bothered me at all compared to the first one PLUS my shoulder which has been painful for years has suddenly stopped hurting ( when I raise it) !!!

What’s that all about ??

Could she have pierced a problematic nerve or something ??


I just hope it’s not a temporary fix. :)


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That's really good news Zizu , especially if it fixed your problematic arm too :).

[AnnieK]

Trouble is they’re probably dropping the mask wearing in high schools next Monday and we’re only a few miles away from Bolton


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They've said today that they are keeping the mask requirement in Bolton and Bury ZiZu until they get this strain under control. Not sure which side of Bolton you are. Hopefully you're in the area where they still have to wear them

[user104658]

Sooo some nice news ...
I had my second jab on Tuesday ( hurrah ) and she stuck it higher than before - at the top of my arm , right on my shoulder !!

Anyways , my arm has hardly bothered me at all compared to the first one PLUS my shoulder which has been painful for years has suddenly stopped hurting ( when I raise it) !!!


What’s that all about ??

Could she have pierced a problematic nerve or something ??


I just hope it’s not a temporary fix :)


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Tbh zizu it’s more likely the joint you’re getting pain from and the jab has caused some swelling that’s pushing it into a better position.

On the plus side, if that’s the case, then developing the muscles around your shoulder should help a lot in the long run. Look into a bit of physio :).

I have a small crack in my left shoulder socket from an injury when I was 15 that makes it slightly too big so it pops out easily and can be prone to pinched nerves. Keeping the shoulder muscles well developed helps LOADS and if I get lazy and neglect it for a bit, I start to really feel it after a couple of weeks.

[Zizu]

Tbh zizu it’s more likely the joint you’re getting pain from and the jab has caused some swelling that’s pushing it into a better position.

On the plus side, if that’s the case, then developing the muscles around your shoulder should help a lot in the long run. Look into a bit of physio :).

I have a small crack in my left shoulder socket from an injury when I was 15 that makes it slightly too big so it pops out easily and can be prone to pinched nerves. Keeping the shoulder muscles well developed helps LOADS and if I get lazy and neglect it for a bit, I start to really feel it after a couple of weeks.



Thanks !


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[arista]

37 year olds
can get the Vaccine From Tomorrow.


Health Secretary confirmed in Parliament

[arista]

Everyone in the Shetland Isles
has now had both Vaccines.

Was just on CNN HD.

[arista]

Total — 1st dose
36,811,405

Total — 2nd dose
20,546,452

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

[Cherie]

Total — 1st dose
36,811,405

Total — 2nd dose
20,546,452

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

70% of first doses and 39% for both

[bots]

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The Duke of Cambridge has paid tribute to those involved in the vaccine rollout after getting his first Covid jab on Tuesday.

The 38-year old shared a photograph showing him being vaccinated by NHS staff at the Science Museum in London.

He is the latest senior royal to share having received the vaccine, following the Queen and the Prince of Wales.

"To all those working on the vaccine rollout thank you for everything you've done and continue to do," he tweeted.

[DouglasS]

70% of first doses and 39% for both

That’s good going :clap1:

[arista]

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[Cherie]

32 and 33 years olds being called now

50 million jabs mark will be passed this weekend

[bots]

Real-life data on the vaccine rollout suggests the jabs are providing even more protection against Covid-19 than was expected from clinical trials, according to Public Health England (PHE).

After a second dose of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, the chance of falling ill with Covid is reduced by around 89 per cent, scientists believe. Trials put the jab’s efficacy around 70-75 per cent.

Full protection appears to be reached seven days after the second vaccination. It is possible that the UK’s policy of leaving up to 12 weeks between doses, rather than the three-week gap used in the clinical trials, explains the greater efficacy.

PHE epidemiologist Meaghan Kall said there was “evidence to show that Pfizer (initially thought to have the edge on effectiveness) is actually running head-to-head with Oxford/AZ”.

The Pfizer jab provides a similar level of protection against illness as Oxford/AstraZeneca, and cuts the chance of death by 95-99 per cent.

https://inews.co.uk/news/oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-is-more-effective-than-thought-with-second-dose-preventing-89-of-illness-1012287

[Nicky91]

Netherlands

first dose 5.662.030 million

second dose 1.786.899 million

combined 7.448.929 million

[rusticgal]

32 and 33 years olds being called now

50 million jabs mark will be passed this weekend


Thats brilliant...I cant wait to ditch my mask. 2nd jab next week :cheer2:

[bots]

Thats brilliant...I cant wait to ditch my mask. 2nd jab next week :cheer2:

mines next week too :laugh:

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: first and second dose combined total of vaccinations as of 23rd May 2021

8.2 million

[Zizu]

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Just the new Yorkshire variant to worry about now ....


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[user104658]

Just the new Yorkshire variant to worry about now ....


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Touch wood, it’s looking like they’re effective against a wide array of mutations, they may even have some effect (T cell immunity) against other non-COVID coronaviruses.

[Zizu]

Touch wood, it’s looking like they’re effective against a wide array of mutations, they may even have some effect (T cell immunity) against other non-COVID coronaviruses.



I was wondering if they would maybe offer some protection against other coronaviruses like the common cold and the Flu ?


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[bots]

there will be loads of different mutations appearing. Only worry if hospital admissions start to increase among the vaccinated population

[user104658]

I was wondering if they would maybe offer some protection against other coronaviruses like the common cold and the Flu ?


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The flu isn’t a coronavirus but some common colds are. “The cold” is actually a variety of different minor viruses that all have similar symptoms, rather than one illness. Most are variations of Rhinovirus but I think something like 1/4 of colds are a cluster of coronaviruses, they think the vaccine might give some protection against those. Also interestingly, they think that people who have had a “coronavirus cold” within the last few years might have some protection against severe Covid.

[Cherie]

actually it was 60 million, think Sky reported it incorrectly

[arista]

Scotland opens up vaccine to all over-18s

[bots]

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The second person in the world to get the Pfizer-BioNTech jab has died of an unrelated illness.

Bill Shakespeare, 81, received his first Covid vaccine in December at University Hospital Coventry shortly after 91-year-old Margaret Keenan.

Coventry councillor Jayne Innes, a friend of Mr Shakespeare, said he had died on Thursday and added the "best tribute to Bill is to have the jab".

Mr Shakespeare had worked at Rolls Royce and was a parish councillor.

The 81-year-old, who had served his local community in Allesley for more than three decades and was an inpatient on the hospital's frailty ward at the time of his first jab, said it had been "wonderful".

Ms Innes wrote in a post on Facebook: "Bill will be remembered for many things, including a taste for mischief."

[Cherie]

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The second person in the world to get the Pfizer-BioNTech jab has died of an unrelated illness.

Bill Shakespeare, 81, received his first Covid vaccine in December at University Hospital Coventry shortly after 91-year-old Margaret Keenan.

Coventry councillor Jayne Innes, a friend of Mr Shakespeare, said he had died on Thursday and added the "best tribute to Bill is to have the jab".

Mr Shakespeare had worked at Rolls Royce and was a parish councillor.

The 81-year-old, who had served his local community in Allesley for more than three decades and was an inpatient on the hospital's frailty ward at the time of his first jab, said it had been "wonderful".

Ms Innes wrote in a post on Facebook: "Bill will be remembered for many things, including a taste for mischief."

RIP to him

somewhere on the internet - omg the vaccine killed him :facepalm:

[arista]

RIP to him

somewhere on the internet - omg the vaccine killed him :facepalm:


No he died of an Illness Tell those Fools on the internet
He was 81

[LaLaLand]

Just had my first jab! So glad.

[Vanessa]

Just had my first jab! So glad.

Aw well done!

[Cherie]

Just had my first jab! So glad.

:love:

[Strictly Jake]

Got mine booked for next saturday

[Ammi]

Just had my first jab! So glad.

Got mine booked for next saturday

….:love:..

[arista]

Today in England
anyone over 30
Can get a free vaccine,


Scotland already doing it.

[Cherie]

Today in England
anyone over 30
Can get a free vaccine,


Scotland already doing it.

Anyone over 18 in an area where the Indian variant is surging can get the jab

I think its right to continue down through the ages in other areas as its more organised, and it is only days before the next cohort will be called

[Niamh.]

Gav had is first Jab (Pfizer) yesterday, he's had no side effects so far

[Cherie]

Gav had is first Jab (Pfizer) yesterday, he's had no side effects so far

super :clap1:

[LaLaLand]

Gav had is first Jab (Pfizer) yesterday, he's had no side effects so far

I've had very, very minor side effects - had mine about half 5 yesterday and this morning I felt quite "rough", like shivery and achy for about 4 hours but it seems to have gone now, feel fine again besides a dead arm. :joker:

[Zizu]

It’s odd that more men apparently get seriously ill or die than women yet women apparently are more likely to have a poor reaction to the vaccines ..

Maybe women have a better immune system so they are more resistant to catching the illness and their immune system would then react more to the vaccine ?


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[bots]

forget John Prescott .... call me "two jags" bots :dance:

[Cherie]

forget John Prescott .... call me "two jags" bots :dance:

:dance::dance:

[Cherie]

Over 18s can now register for their jabs in NI

73% of adults in UK first jabbed

45% both jabs

They have really closed the gap in second jabs, that was running at 20% 4 weeks ago

[Cherie]

20% of adults fully vaccinated now

and 63% of the adult population have had their first jab

from 21st April

[bots]

and for the ongoing statistical analysis, no side effects for me the day after :laugh:

[Cherie]

and for the ongoing statistical analysis, no side effects for me the day after :laugh:

brilliant

[Niamh.]

I've had very, very minor side effects - had mine about half 5 yesterday and this morning I felt quite "rough", like shivery and achy for about 4 hours but it seems to have gone now, feel fine again besides a dead arm. :joker:

Yeah my mom was like that after hers and so was Gavin's sister, his dad just had a sore arm

[Nicky91]

Netherlands (vaccination numbers as of 27th May 2021)

first dose: 6.153.355

second dose: 2.304.562

total 8.457.917


so almost at the halfway mark here

[Tom4784]

I've been trying to book an appointment now that over-30's can do so but it's been a nightmare, every place that pops up either fills up immediately or is entirely unrealistic travel-wise. I just have to keep checking the website hoping to get lucky.

[Ammi]

I've been trying to book an appointment now that over-30's can do so but it's been a nightmare, every place that pops up either fills up immediately or is entirely unrealistic travel-wise. I just have to keep checking the website hoping to get lucky.

…I hope that you manage to get an appointment, Dezzy …will your surgery do it, can you arrange it there…?…

[Cherie]

I read on the Spanish forums yesterday that anyone under 60 who has had AZ as first dose can choose a different vaccine for second dose..:umm2: is there any data on doing that yet?

Also no vaccine if you had covid in the last 6 months

Wouldn’t want to be living in Spain in these times :laugh:

[bots]

I read on the Spanish forums yesterday that anyone under 60 who has had AZ as first dose can choose a different vaccine for second dose..:umm2: is there any data on doing that yet?

Also no vaccine if you had covid in the last 6 months

Wouldn’t want to be living in Spain in these times :laugh:

they have set up a study and have a group of volunteers to study mixing vaccines in the uk.

I know someone that had an allergic reaction to the pfizer vaccine and they were told that the 2nd dose would probably be AZ instead

[bots]

viewed my vaccination status on the NHS app ... all the info is there, so my vaccine passport is operational :dance:

[GoldHeart]

I've been trying to book an appointment now that over-30's can do so but it's been a nightmare, every place that pops up either fills up immediately or is entirely unrealistic travel-wise. I just have to keep checking the website hoping to get lucky.

Hopefully you should get a text notification about booking an appointment at your nearest health centre, that's what happened with me.

If not then maybe try asking your GP ? .

[Cherie]

they have set up a study and have a group of volunteers to study mixing vaccines in the uk.

I know someone that had an allergic reaction to the pfizer vaccine and they were told that the 2nd dose would probably be AZ instead

its very recent though isn't it, and there is no data yet, I can understand offering someone who had a reaction an alternative, but whole swathes of the population given the personal choice seems a bit rash to me anyway

I think the likelihood if you didn't have any rare side affects after the first one, having any after the second must be quite low?

[bots]

the local gp hubs are pretty useless, so the best thing to do is book at a vaccination centre if there is one within travel distance.

It may be booked up initially, but the rate they are going at, it doesn't take long to clear any backlog, so keep trying would me my advice

[Cherie]

Janssen one shot vaccine approved for use by MHRA

[Vanessa]

I've been trying to book an appointment now that over-30's can do so but it's been a nightmare, every place that pops up either fills up immediately or is entirely unrealistic travel-wise. I just have to keep checking the website hoping to get lucky.

You could wait for your gp to call you, but it might take longer.
Booking online is so much faster.

[Vanessa]

the local gp hubs are pretty useless, so the best thing to do is book at a vaccination centre if there is one within travel distance.

It may be booked up initially, but the rate they are going at, it doesn't take long to clear any backlog, so keep trying would me my advice

Yes, online is faster.
The GPs take ages to call you.

[arista]

Janssen one shot vaccine approved for use by MHRA


Yes Later in the year
Might be good for the youngers.

[Cherie]

Yes Later in the year
Might be good for the youngers.

Might be used for boosters

[Vanessa]

Might be used for boosters

Thats a good idea!.

[Nicky91]

Yes Later in the year
Might be good for the youngers.

don't want that toxic rubbish

[Zizu]

Yes Later in the year

Might be good for the youngers.



I think I heard on the radio that Ireland are offering vaccines to anyone over 18 whilst Germany are preparing to offer vaccines to all over 11 years old ..


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[bots]

i don't think 49% against removing restrictions vs 34% in favour of removing restrictions is a split poll. It's a clear indication that people want restrictions to remain

[Vanessa]

Yes, I think we need the restrictions until we finish the vaccination programme.

[Zizu]

Yes, I think we need the restrictions until we finish the vaccination programme.



Yes .

That’s what a growing number of scientists/specialists are saying increasingly


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[user104658]

I am now part of the 2nd dose crew :hee:. Got it at 10 this morning... arm is just starting to ache a bit now and slight headache :bawling:

[bots]

I am now part of the 2nd dose crew :hee:. Got it at 10 this morning... arm is just starting to ache a bit now and slight headache :bawling:

i had a bit of a muffled feeling that ramped up late in the day after which was a bit different, but again, 2 days later all was fine

[Zizu]

I am now part of the 2nd dose crew :hee:. Got it at 10 this morning... arm is just starting to ache a bit now and slight headache :bawling:



Which one ??


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[user104658]

Which one ??


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Dirty AZ. They tried to put me in the Pfizer queue as I'm just a young thing still, took them forever to understand that I was there for my 2nd dose so it had to be AZ.

[Zizu]

Dirty AZ. They tried to put me in the Pfizer queue as I'm just a young thing still, took them forever to understand that I was there for my 2nd dose so it had to be AZ.



Ah ... well you’re well protected now and even better as the days pass .. so that’s nice :)


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[arista]

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[thesheriff443]

Has any one put up the story of the radio presenter dying of a blot clot after having the az vaccine.

I’ve recently had my second dose of az.

[Cherie]

Has any one put up the story of the radio presenter dying of a blot clot after having the az vaccine.

I’ve recently had my second dose of az.

No but fatalities have fallen as people are aware of what to look out for so they get treatment

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/astrazeneca-blood-clot-risk-still-100000-to-one-but-fatality-rate-has-fallen-says-eu-watchdog-40481248.html

[user104658]

Has any one put up the story of the radio presenter dying of a blot clot after having the az vaccine.

I’ve recently had my second dose of az.


Apparently there’s no increased risk with the second dose if you had no issues with the first dose...

I got the 2nd dose yesterday, thus far I’ve had fewer side effects at with 2nd dose than first, my arm is a bit dead and I’m a bit tired. But after the first I was pretty ****ing rough with feeling dizzy/out of it/bad headaches.

I’m off tomorrow for bank holiday anyway so an extra day to lounge around.

[bots]

at my 2nd jab, they seemed to ask a lot more questions

The one that tickled me was "do you consent to having the vaccine?" I answered, why do you think i am here? :laugh:

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: we now got more or less 9 million people vaccinated (combined total of first and second dose) out of a population of 17 million


health minister De Jonge said everyone (who wants to get vaccinated) to have at least one dose by September 1st, and they think of 85% of the population here since they cannot force everyone to get the vaccine

[Zizu]

Netherlands: we now got more or less 9 million people vaccinated (combined total of first and second dose) out of a population of 17 million


health minister De Jonge said everyone (who wants to get vaccinated) to have at least one dose by September 1st, and they think of 85% of the population here since they cannot force everyone to get the vaccine



What are your thoughts on Dutch Football captain Matthijs de Ligt refusing to have a vaccine and promoting his stance online


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[Nicky91]

What are your thoughts on Dutch Football captain Matthijs de Ligt refusing to have a vaccine and promoting his stance online


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so what

[bots]

What are your thoughts on Dutch Football captain Matthijs de Ligt refusing to have a vaccine and promoting his stance online


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the dutch seem to have a higher percentage of vaccine sceptics.

[Cherie]

the dutch seem to have a higher percentage of vaccine sceptics.

Most of the UK are like, jab that shiz into me so I can start living again :laugh:

[bots]

Most of the UK are like, jab that shiz into me so I can start living again :laugh:

my nanites are 2 days away from full integration :laugh:

[Zizu]

my nanites are 2 days away from full integration :laugh:



Sounds painful tbh

Where are they jabbing you :)


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[user104658]

My side effects for this second one were different to the first. First one I had shocking headaches and felt generally unwell and had a very tender arm. This time I just keep falling asleep, arm isn’t sore but was totally “dead” for about 36h, and I’ve not had a headache (very slight yesterday evening) BUT I’ve been feeling dizzy since last night. Apparently a common-ish side effect. It’s fine sat down but as soon as I stand up it feels like I’ve been spinning on the spot :bawling:

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[bots]

My side effects for this second one were different to the first. First one I had shocking headaches and felt generally unwell and had a very tender arm. This time I just keep falling asleep, arm isn’t sore but was totally “dead” for about 36h, and I’ve not had a headache (very slight yesterday evening) BUT I’ve been feeling dizzy since last night. Apparently a common-ish side effect. It’s fine sat down but as soon as I stand up it feels like I’ve been spinning on the spot :bawling:

yeah my side effects were different on the 2nd jab too. It took more time to kick in and then it wasnt so in your face rough, but it was still there none the less and i ended up going to bed really early the following day and slept through :laugh:

[Zizu]

I’d read that side effects with AZ were worse with the first jab then easler second one


Supposedly the opposite applied to Pfizer and I was expecting the worst when I got my second Pfizer jab but had zero effects ( weird headache right on top of my head after first one )


Since then it’s been revealed that women are experiencing far worse side effects than men for reasons unbeknown at the moment


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[user104658]

I’d read that side effects with AZ were worse with the first jab then easler second one


Supposedly the opposite applied to Pfizer and I was expecting the worst when I got my second Pfizer jab but had zero effects ( weird headache right on top of my head after first one )


Since then it’s been revealed that women are experiencing far worse side effects than men for reasons unbeknown at the moment


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My wife had very few side effects from either dose of Pfizer.

AZ second dose not being as bad at the first one is accurate in my experience though, I was pretty rough with the first and just a bit "meh" with the 2nd.

[GoldHeart]

From my experience it seems Pfizer has less side affects, I've only had the first one but all I got was a sore arm for a few days.

[Cherie]

From my experience it seems Pfizer has less side affects, I've only had the first one but all I got was a sore arm for a few days.

That is all I had with AZ, maybe a bit more tired for a day or so as well.

My sister and husband had zero reaction to first dose of AZ, there is no hard and fast rule about these things I think

[bots]

We were all being told that the 2nd jab was worse and that those who had anti bodies already from catching covid had more side effects, but i don't think it's proving to be true. The range of side effects seem very well defined, but what individuals actually experience seems to be all over the shop :laugh:

[Cherie]

We were all being told that the 2nd jab was worse and that those who had anti bodies already from catching covid had more side effects, but i don't think it's proving to be true. The range of side effects seem very well defined, but what individuals actually experience seems to be all over the shop :laugh:

yeah I think its and individual thing like my bro in law had two doses of Pfizer, no issue with the first dose, and hit by a train with the second

my Aunt, two doses of Pfizer, fine with both :laugh:

so its a bit of a lottery I think

[AnnieK]

In my personal experience, I've found that the younger you are, the worse the side effects seem to be. My Dad and all his friends had nothing, my age group seem to have been hit and miss (from none to moderate effects), my friends who are under 40 have all (so far) said they were floored by it.

[Zizu]

As I mentioned above... the science is suggesting that , in general, females have worse side effects to the vaccines than males .

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Experts say the estrogen in women’s bodies produces a stronger immune system reaction to vaccinations.

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Researchers at the CDC say women tend to have stronger side effects to COVID-19 vaccines than men.

Experts say this isn’t unusual with vaccinations because the estrogen in women’s bodies is designed to elicit a stronger immune response.


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[Niamh.]

As I mentioned above... the science is suggesting that , in general, females have worse side effects to the vaccines than males .

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Experts say the estrogen in women’s bodies produces a stronger immune system reaction to vaccinations.

MCKINSEY JORDAN/Stocksy
Researchers at the CDC say women tend to have stronger side effects to COVID-19 vaccines than men.

Experts say this isn’t unusual with vaccinations because the estrogen in women’s bodies is designed to elicit a stronger immune response.


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Now you mention it out of the people I know who have had it the women have had worse reactions alright

[bots]

if we go back to the first few months of the pandemic, all the data at that time showed that woman faired better fighting covid than men, it was elderly men that were the worst hit, so them having a stronger reaction to the vaccine makes sense in that context

[Nicky91]

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Netherlands: Prime Minister Mark Rutte had the Janssen vaccine today

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/05/rutte-gets-janssen-vaccine-as-bookings-open-for-1980s-children/

Caretaker prime minister Mark Rutte has shared a photograph of his coronavirus vaccination on his Twitter account. Rutte, 54, dressed down for the occasion, wearing a casual T-shirt, jeans and a baseball cap as he received the single-shot Janssen vaccine.

He revealed during Friday’s press conference, when the government confirmed that step 3 of lifting the coronavirus restrictions will go ahead on June 5, that his appointment was booked for Monday.

‘Vaccination is the way out of this crisis and thanks to the Janssen vaccine this prospect has come a step closer for me personally,’ the prime minister wrote on Twitter.

‘With much thanks to all the staff at the GGD network (@GGDGHORNL) who dedicate themselves every day to helping the Netherlands out of this crisis.’

[Strictly Jake]

My brother in law had his vaccine last week we have just found out he had a stroke at the weekend and had bruising appear everywhere like he had been beaten up he is now in ICU and it's blood clots causing the bruising and it's not looking good for him! He's in his 40s. It has been confirmed it was because of the vaccine

[bots]

My brother in law had his vaccine last week we have just found out he had a stroke at the weekend and had bruising appear everywhere like he had been beaten up he is now in ICU and it's blood clots causing the bruising and it's not looking good for him! He's in his 40s. It has been confirmed it was because of the vaccine

Sorry to hear that, hope he recovers quickly

[Cherie]

My brother in law had his vaccine last week we have just found out he had a stroke at the weekend and had bruising appear everywhere like he had been beaten up he is now in ICU and it's blood clots causing the bruising and it's not looking good for him! He's in his 40s. It has been confirmed it was because of the vaccine

Sorry to hear that Jake, did you get yours?

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/06/astrazeneca-refuseniks-will-be-offered-a-different-vaccine-minister/

Netherlands: those who refused AstraZeneca vaccine will be offered a different vaccine instead, finally health minister De Jonge gave in to a petition ''60-65 no to astrazeneca''

it will either be Pfizer, Moderna or Janssen

[Cherie]

If I see ‘race to beat’, one more time :oh:

[bots]

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[Nicky91]

i'm proud to be anti-vaxxer :flutter:


i don't care if relatives of mine will hate me either lol

[Cherie]

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:joker:

[Cherie]

i'm proud to be anti-vaxxer :flutter:


i don't care if relatives of mine will hate me either lol

Your choice Nicky :love:

[Strictly Jake]

Sorry to hear that Jake, did you get yours?

Got mine tomorrow. It's put me off quite a lot actually but I will get it done

[AnnieK]

Got mine tomorrow. It's put me off quite a lot actually but I will get it done

How is he doing today Jake?

[user104658]

Got mine tomorrow. It's put me off quite a lot actually but I will get it done


If you say you’ve had a direct relative develop clots, you can probably request not to get AZ on those grounds.

[edit to add] pretty much all vaccination centres are carrying both AZ and Pfizer, since younger people aren’t supposed to get AZ, so they will have Pfizer doses available on site.

[Strictly Jake]

How is he doing today Jake?

Not good. Taking my wife to Manchester to see him on Thursday. Apparently it's not looking likely he survive it. It's awful. I don't know him all that well I've seen him a few times but my wife's not too great obviously

[Zizu]

Not good. Taking my wife to Manchester to see him on Thursday. Apparently it's not looking likely he survive it. It's awful. I don't know him all that well I've seen him a few times but my wife's not too great obviously



That’s absolutely dreadful to hear ...


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[Ammi]

Not good. Taking my wife to Manchester to see him on Thursday. Apparently it's not looking likely he survive it. It's awful. I don't know him all that well I've seen him a few times but my wife's not too great obviously

…I’m so, so sorry for your family, Jake…:hug:..I really hope that he pulls through…

[AnnieK]

Not good. Taking my wife to Manchester to see him on Thursday. Apparently it's not looking likely he survive it. It's awful. I don't know him all that well I've seen him a few times but my wife's not too great obviously

Oh I'm so sorry to hear that Jake. Sending love to your family :love:

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: study shows No 2nd AstraZeneca dose after nasty and serious side effects

health officials are still looking into if some vaccines can be combined in case some require a different vaccine (when having had nasty side effect from 1st dose AZ)

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: No Janssen/J&J for younger age groups

Janssen can (same as AstraZeneca) lead to blood clotting and low blood platelets

younger people can only get either Pfizer or Moderna

[Zizu]

The UK has hit a "dangerous moment" in the pandemic, an expert has claimed, amid warnings that "vaccine-beating variants" will emerge in the future.

Dr David Nabarro, the World Health Organisation's special envoy on COVID-19, said that despite low infection levels, unlocking restrictions too quickly in the UK could create a further "spike" in infections.

He also issued a warning about variants, saying "vaccine-beating" forms of the virus will almost certainly emerge sooner or later.




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[arista]

Health Secretary is Live on both News Channels

Oxford Vaccine Centre.

Vaccine Speech


He Praised Prof. Chris Whitty
for helping so much before the start of Covid-19

[Cherie]

The UK has hit a "dangerous moment" in the pandemic, an expert has claimed, amid warnings that "vaccine-beating variants" will emerge in the future.

Dr David Nabarro, the World Health Organisation's special envoy on COVID-19, said that despite low infection levels, unlocking restrictions too quickly in the UK could create a further "spike" in infections.

He also issued a warning about variants, saying "vaccine-beating" forms of the virus will almost certainly emerge sooner or later.




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maybe his time would be better spent educating vaccine hesitant countries!

[Cherie]

75% of first jabs give to adults over 18 now

50% fully vaccinated

[arista]

Health Secretary is taking questions.

Live both news channels



Makes a Great Change
they are all in front of him

[arista]

Good one from Ch4HDnews Liz
asked why he was not sorry for Care Home Deaths.


He totally ignored that bit

[arista]

He has run off now

[Vanessa]

75% of first jabs give to adults over 18 now

50% fully vaccinated

Brilliant!