[Vicky.]

Still doing this kizzy? I remember you talking about this years back..

It still makes not much sense to me, however, thats because I do total water fasts instead, and the whole point of that is to get your body into ketosis, which burns fat FAST and leaves alone muscle largely. Where this, would not have that benefit, as the sugar would likely be too high to get into ketosis to start with.

But it seems to help those who try it so...meh. Also I have found, the psychological benefits of fasting in general are amazing. Its quite hard to explain, but I expect those who have done fasts understand what I mean...everythings so..clear. Its weird.

Loads of stuff thats actually rather healthy is written off as a dangerous fad. I know this from my research into water fasting, people see it as starving yourself, which is sort of right, however, you always stop it when you get a sign of true hunger, which oddly, tends not to be til a few WEEKS after starting it, as funnily enough, our bodies are not designed to be fed around the clock, and are actually able to go very long periods of time with no food at all (average body can go about 40 days with nothing bar water..much longer if overweight). It actually fixes a lot of health issues too, which was the main reason I tried it. Didn't fix me, but did lose 2 stone in a week and a half, 5 pounds of which was water weight as came back immediately, rest stayed off.

Fixes a lot of health stuff because again, our bodies naturally repair themselves with certain stuff (seems to help mostly with stuff like acne, but some people have had success with other illnesses too, my cousins swears his IBS is much better and easier to manage after a fast), and with no food, your body has much less work to do as whole digestive system is dormant, so it can get to work trying to fix issues. Its quite amazing really when you read into it, what our bodies can do if given the chance..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Still doing this kizzy? I remember you talking about this years back..

It still makes not much sense to me, however, thats because I do total water fasts instead, and the whole point of that is to get your body into ketosis, which burns fat FAST and leaves alone muscle largely. Where this, would not have that benefit, as the sugar would likely be too high to get into ketosis to start with.

But it seems to help those who try it so...meh. Also I have found, the psychological benefits of fasting in general are amazing. Its quite hard to explain, but I expect those who have done fasts understand what I mean...everythings so..clear. Its weird.

Loads of stuff thats actually rather healthy is written off as a dangerous fad. I know this from my research into water fasting, people see it as starving yourself, which is sort of right, however, you always stop it when you get a sign of true hunger, which oddly, tends not to be til a few WEEKS after starting it, as funnily enough, our bodies are not designed to be fed around the clock, and are actually able to go very long periods of time with no food at all (average body can go about 40 days with nothing bar water..much longer if overweight). It actually fixes a lot of health issues too, which was the main reason I tried it. Didn't fix me, but did lose 2 stone in a week and a half, 5 pounds of which was water weight as came back immediately, rest stayed off.

Fixes a lot of health stuff because again, our bodies naturally repair themselves with certain stuff (seems to help mostly with stuff like acne, but some people have had success with other illnesses too, my cousins swears his IBS is much better and easier to manage after a fast), and with no food, your body has much less work to do as whole digestive system is dormant, so it can get to work trying to fix issues. Its quite amazing really when you read into it, what our bodies can do if given the chance..

Hi Vicky great to see you yep did it about 4ish years ago with great results but working shifts for years has seen it all come back slowly
I couldn't water fast and work and drive wouldn't feel safe to do that. (I'm in various states of ketosis, sometimes light pink sometimes darker on the ketostix) only have a small fruit one in the mornings then it's just veg.

I agree it does take some time to explain the benefits for someone with chronic inflammation or complex heath problems. Like you I see it as a reset too, a way of resting the body from the taxing job of constantly digesting so it can focus on other tasks

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by caprimint

I remember you talking about it in another thread before Vicky

Did you find water fasting hard? And did you have anything like diet soda/tea or whatever? Also did you do any exercise or even just much walking throughout the days? Did you feel weak at all??

To start with, definitely. It was more the..habit of eating though than hunger. Day 2 I am 'starving though' always, but day 3 the hunger vanishes totally and I get a ****load of energy, thats when I know my body has switched to basically feeding itself off my fat stores. Took a fair few tries to get past day 1 to start with! Not now though as I know its just one uncomfortable day, then I will feel healthier than ever for ages. Some people have diet drinks and that, I didn't, I did cheat and have chewing gum once though just for something to taste! Others have said even diet drinks have kicked them out of ketosis though, so not sure if its a good idea or not.

Did a lot of walking, had at least 3x as much energy as usual, which was odd the first time as..expected to be weak. Only ever feel weak on day 2, when body is adjusting. I have not done it to full 'body shows hunger' stage yet..I always break it before that, after a week or 2. But apparently, once your hunger signs show its impossible to ignore or miss..and if you continue the fast beyond that point THEN you are starving yourself. Will get to that stage eventually, just to see. They say real hunger is felt in the throat, not the stomach too, which is interesting..

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hi Vicky great to see you yep did it about 4ish years ago with great results but working shifts for years has seen it all come back slowly
I couldn't water fast and work and drive wouldn't feel safe to do that. (I'm in various states of ketosis, sometimes light pink sometimes darker on the ketostix) only have a small fruit one in the mornings then it's just veg.

I agree it does take some time to explain the benefits for someone with chronic inflammation or complex heath problems. Like you I see it as a reset too, a way of resting the body from the taxing job of constantly digesting so it can focus on other tasks

I remember spending ages taking in info to my doctor, to try and get them to supervise first one..as I was a bit skitzy with other issues..she kept telling me how unhealthy it is, meanwhile pain clinic consultant was telling me to try it as its 100% safe for me personally (not for everyone)

Theres a lot of ignorance around fasting. Its understandable, given how much its drummed into us that we should always be eating though

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

To start with, definitely. It was more the..habit of eating though than hunger. Day 2 I am 'starving though' always, but day 3 the hunger vanishes totally and I get a ****load of energy, thats when I know my body has switched to basically feeding itself off my fat stores. Took a fair few tries to get past day 1 to start with! Not now though as I know its just one uncomfortable day, then I will feel healthier than ever for ages. Some people have diet drinks and that, I didn't, I did cheat and have chewing gum once though just for something to taste! Others have said even diet drinks have kicked them out of ketosis though, so not sure if its a good idea or not.

Did a lot of walking, had at least 3x as much energy as usual, which was odd the first time as..expected to be weak. Only ever feel weak on day 2, when body is adjusting. I have not done it to full 'body shows hunger' stage yet..I always break it before that, after a week or 2. But apparently, once your hunger signs show its impossible to ignore or miss..and if you continue the fast beyond that point THEN you are starving yourself. Will get to that stage eventually, just to see. They say real hunger is felt in the throat, not the stomach too, which is interesting..

That's really interesting. The most I've done was like 2 days and a bit, not planned though... I was travelling in the car a lot and just didn't really feel like eating and then realised after I'd not eaten anything, just drank water and tea. I actually felt fine, not hungry/weak or anything but on the third day I literally just ate because I thought I should.

Do you feel any different when you get into keto?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by caprimint

That's really interesting. The most I've done was like 2 days and a bit, not planned though... I was travelling in the car a lot and just didn't really feel like eating and then realised after I'd not eaten anything, just drank water and tea. I actually felt fine, not hungry/weak or anything but on the third day I literally just ate because I thought I should.

Do you feel any different when you get into keto?

Massively. Thats the energetic phase, also clear mind for some reason. I can concentrate better, memory gets better, everything. In keto I feel healthier than I did in my teens tbh. Remembering how good it makes me feel is actually making me want to do it again now The 'keto flu' stage on day 2/3 though is bad..and seems worse if your diets been ****e for a while too, its a little like opiate withdrawal actually..very crappy. Luckily for me though, that lasts a day at most then its all done and I feel great, apparently it takes a few days for some people.

Main problems I have seen have been about breaking it. A guy I know did 2 weeks water fasting,m then stupidly broke it with a mcdonalds he actually ended up in hospital. If its been a while, you need to start with watermelon or something and build back up to 'normal' eating, not just binge like hell!

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Massively. Thats the energetic phase, also clear mind for some reason. I can concentrate better, memory gets better, everything. In keto I feel healthier than I did in my teens tbh. Remembering how good it makes me feel is actually making me want to do it again now The 'keto flu' stage on day 2/3 though is bad..and seems worse if your diets been ****e for a while too, its a little like opiate withdrawal actually..very crappy. Luckily for me though, that lasts a day at most then its all done and I feel great, apparently it takes a few days for some people.

Main problems I have seen have been about breaking it. A guy I know did 2 weeks water fasting,m then stupidly broke it with a mcdonalds he actually ended up in hospital. If its been a while, you need to start with watermelon or something and build back up to 'normal' eating, not just binge like hell!

That's interesting to know

That's crazy though @ going into hopspital I've heard about it before that you need to begin again with fruit or something light to like ease back into it because your body's not used to it

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by caprimint

That's interesting to know

That's crazy though @ going into hopspital I've heard about it before that you need to begin again with fruit or something light to like ease back into it because your body's not used to it

For sure, that bits generally not emphasized enough, its really really dangerous to just eat crap when you end it. As your system is not used to anything at all. I tend to use watermelon, and only one or two slices for the first day, then veg the next, takes about 5 days to break it properly for me but I am a little TOO cautious I think and you can do it faster than that.

He was in hospital as his guts just started to spasm madly..and it was very painful obviously! Ended up being in for a couple of days due to pain..and very much bollocked by the doctors as it was easily avoided by..just not being an idiot!