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isn't this the core of why I used a word like selfish?

They could have used that money to improve the life of another, but they chose to use it just to improve their own.

So could any fertile person. Why are they less selfish for having a biological child when they could have chosen to improve the life of one through adoption?

Nobody has biological children for selfless reasons, let's be clear, but it seems like only infertile people or couples who biologically cannot have children together have the responsibility to make a child's life better while fertile and straight people can do as they please without your judgement. Just seems an odd angle to take that's all, but you're entitled to that opinion.

Originally Posted by vesavius

Honestly, and I am making an assumption here so I am open to being corrected, it seems to me that someone on the Left should really be arguing for adoption rather than the wealthy using money to satisfy their own wants.

A community should look after each other, not just chase their own desires?

I've always said I'm socially left wing and economically right wing. If someone wants to spend their own money to improve their life, I have no issue with that.

Someone spending their own money to have biological children instead of adopting is their own choice and I'm not going to judge them for it in the same way I wouldn't judge someone who CAN have children biologically for the same choice.

I think adoption is great and I have a lot of respect for those who both adopt and foster. But also, I'm very aware I've made the choice to never have children through any means because they would inexplicably make my life worse. So I can't stand on my high horse and judge others for not adopting when I never will.

If people on this thread feel so highly about adoption, they can do so. If they choose not to, while judging others for making the same choice then I am not sure what to say.