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Gstar
23-12-2018, 11:30 PM
Kate Oates is cancelled, she created the Phelan storyline

Gstar
23-12-2018, 11:36 PM
I also remember when SOC took over and everyone was here for him and the new era of Eastenders don’t make me dig up receipts

reece(:
23-12-2018, 11:52 PM
I also remember when SOC took over and everyone was here for him and the new era of Eastenders don’t make me dig up receipts

I wasn't :idc:

Rob!
23-12-2018, 11:56 PM
I also remember when SOC took over and everyone was here for him and the new era of Eastenders don’t make me dig up receipts

Well it wasn’t me my love

Greg!
23-12-2018, 11:56 PM
I knew he'd be a flop as soon as he was announced!

Greg!
23-12-2018, 11:58 PM
It still makes me SCREAM that he was planning on killing off Billy, Jane and half the bloody square so the BBC had to stop him. Also makes me scream that they brought those bus crash episodes forward to replace a week of episodes that were so poor they couldn't be aired :skull:

reece(:
24-12-2018, 12:16 AM
Remember the fool calling Ronnie and Roxy's deaths artistic? Utter moron

Marsh.
24-12-2018, 06:07 PM
I also remember when SOC took over and everyone was here for him and the new era of Eastenders don’t make me dig up receipts

I certainly wasn't. It was boring! :oh:

Marsh.
24-12-2018, 06:07 PM
Remember the fool calling Ronnie and Roxy's deaths artistic? Utter moron

Omg "baroque". :skull:

Marsh.
24-12-2018, 06:08 PM
It still makes me SCREAM that he was planning on killing off Billy, Jane and half the bloody square so the BBC had to stop him. Also makes me scream that they brought those bus crash episodes forward to replace a week of episodes that were so poor they couldn't be aired :skull:

Remember the fool calling Ronnie and Roxy's deaths artistic? Utter moron

Remember when Denise had so many storylines most of them didn't get an ending?

reece(:
24-12-2018, 06:21 PM
Omg "baroque". :skull:

FFS :facepalm:

Greg!
24-12-2018, 08:16 PM
Welp so Stuart is still alive then!

A good ep apart from that though! Screamed at Karen sticking her head through the door during the argument in Ian's kitchen.

PERCHED for tomorrow.

Moniqua
24-12-2018, 08:17 PM
rip trina johnson </3

reece(:
24-12-2018, 08:49 PM
Stacey is scalping tonight

reece(:
24-12-2018, 08:51 PM
Kim and Phil :joker:

reece(:
24-12-2018, 08:59 PM
EW at Stuart STILL THERE

Gstar
25-12-2018, 01:13 AM
I enjoyed the ep. Stacey was great

Still excited for a possible shock return. The Kat/Alfie/Hailey and the Stuart storyline might confuse the casuals.

armand.kay
25-12-2018, 03:09 AM
I can't wait to see kat quaking in her shiny ****ing silver dress bitch!! I can't wait to see her with that metal pipe in her ****ing hand!!

reece(:
25-12-2018, 04:40 AM
EastEnders' Phil Mitchell became an unlikely hero in the Christmas Eve episode when he helped deliver Kim Fox's baby!

The very unlikely turn of events came about when Phil (Steve McFadden) decided to show a little festive spirit and help Kim (Tameka Empson) stock the shelves at the Minute Mart.

Unfortunately, the two accidentally got locked into the convenience store shortly before Kim's water broke, forcing Phil to take control of the situation and actually deliver the baby.

Who is writing these DS articles? That's not why Phil was there at all :skull:

Gstar
25-12-2018, 07:36 PM
TIBB prayer circle for Zoe to take the crow bar out of Kats hand

Firewire
25-12-2018, 07:37 PM
Girls I'm so ready for this

Greg!
25-12-2018, 07:46 PM
I want my ugly family to leave so me and my mum can watch it in PEACE!

reece(:
25-12-2018, 08:27 PM
Alfie is awful!

reece(:
25-12-2018, 08:29 PM
And the brat upstairs is HIDEOUS!

Ahhhhhhh :joker:

reece(:
25-12-2018, 08:37 PM
Stace stealing the show so far!

Denver
25-12-2018, 08:40 PM
Phil gettin that Xmas #1 2019?

Greg!
25-12-2018, 08:51 PM
I'm a bit behind but omg Jane mention, she's rihturning girlies!

Greg!
25-12-2018, 08:53 PM
Oh my god at the penny dropping I-

Saph
25-12-2018, 08:53 PM
who dies?

reece(:
25-12-2018, 08:54 PM
WELP the Jean drag

Saph
25-12-2018, 08:56 PM
not kat popping to the vic for a quick drinkie among the drama

Denver
25-12-2018, 09:15 PM
Not the Slater women killing Alfie

Denver
25-12-2018, 09:15 PM
Yes at that ending

Saph
25-12-2018, 09:16 PM
not ms hayley coming through and finally offing that deadbeat :clap1:

Denver
25-12-2018, 09:17 PM
So it's Alfies body they find?

reece(:
25-12-2018, 09:17 PM
Hayley snapped [ha neck]

reece(:
25-12-2018, 09:17 PM
Where the FOOK is Zoe!

Denver
25-12-2018, 09:19 PM
But goodbye at another Slater being a murderer

Cal.
25-12-2018, 09:22 PM
YAAAAAAASSS we are here for the murder plot of the century :clap1:

Denver
25-12-2018, 09:23 PM
Mess at there being a new boss for the 3rd Xmas in the row and them killing of a long term character each time

Greg!
25-12-2018, 09:26 PM
ICONIC!

Black Dagger
25-12-2018, 09:33 PM
lol dead bitch

Daniel-X
25-12-2018, 09:42 PM
It was such a crap episode till the GORGEOUS ending

Amy Jade
25-12-2018, 09:58 PM
As much as I sympathise with Kat didn't she have an affair with Michael Moon, Alfies cousin?

Surely Alfie would have thrown that in her face?

Firewire
25-12-2018, 10:02 PM
A bit of a mess but the last ten minutes were amazing!

Hayley is an EastEnders GREAT

thisisdanny
25-12-2018, 10:04 PM
Amazing acting tonight. First half of the episode was slow but second half was just FAB :clap1:

thisisdanny
25-12-2018, 10:05 PM
We love Kat, Stacey and Hayley teaming up against Alfie

Year of the woman :clap1:

BBUK-Fan
25-12-2018, 10:08 PM
As much as I sympathise with Kat didn't she have an affair with Michael Moon, Alfies cousin?

Surely Alfie would have thrown that in her face?

Yep, Tommy is the son of Michael Moon

Greg!
25-12-2018, 10:15 PM
Yeah but at least Kat told Alfie before he was born IIRC

Ashley.
25-12-2018, 10:22 PM
I'm Alfie's sudden personality change one minute before the end of the episode

Ashley.
25-12-2018, 10:23 PM
I liked the episode even if most of it was just recycled "iconic" moments from previous years (intentional or not). However it's nice to see a man falling down the stairs for once x

Redway
25-12-2018, 10:33 PM
Anyone else reckon Alfie falling down the stairs was only a red herring and it’s Dr Legg who actually chalked it?

Liam-
25-12-2018, 10:36 PM
I hope the Slater gals hide his body circa Dirty Den

Redway
25-12-2018, 10:39 PM
I hope the Slater gals hide his body circa Dirty Den

Might turn out to be another Trevor-esque scenario if that happens.

Liam-
25-12-2018, 10:44 PM
Who’s Trevor? :suspect:

Firewire
25-12-2018, 10:49 PM
Little Mo's abusive husband?

Redway
25-12-2018, 10:50 PM
Yup.

I still reckon it’s not actually Alfie who’s dead though. Too obvious.

Liam-
25-12-2018, 10:52 PM
Didn’t Trevor die in an explosion?

Denver
25-12-2018, 10:53 PM
Yup.

I still reckon it’s not actually Alfie who’s dead though. Too obvious.

It's alreadybeen said Xmas day is his last episode

Marsh.
25-12-2018, 10:54 PM
Mess at there being a new boss for the 3rd Xmas in the row and them killing of a long term character each time

This is still John Yorke's work.

reece(:
25-12-2018, 10:56 PM
It's alreadybeen said Xmas day is his last episode

They've been known to lie before (see Emma Summerhayes)

Marsh.
25-12-2018, 10:58 PM
I'm Katie Jarvis who had enough of spending the entire episode crying in the corner and listening to Shane bloody Richie, flipping her lid and shoving him down the stairs.

Marsh.
25-12-2018, 10:59 PM
It's alreadybeen said Xmas day is his last episode

They also said R&R's final episode would be baroque and 2018's leading females would be Kat and Mel, both of whom have barely appeared.

Brother Leon
25-12-2018, 11:00 PM
What an underwhelming end for a fairly iconic character.

Redway
25-12-2018, 11:01 PM
It's alreadybeen said Xmas day is his last episode

Doesn’t mean he might not have an off-screen exit still.

Redway
25-12-2018, 11:04 PM
Didn’t Trevor die in an explosion?

Yeah but what I was saying in that post was that Alfie could escape alive if his body’s dumped just like Trevor did when Little Mo bludgeoned him with an iron (months and months before the explosion).

Ashley.
25-12-2018, 11:05 PM
"I'll give you lip. A fat lip!"

Firewire
25-12-2018, 11:09 PM
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/soaps-eastenders-kat-vs-hayley-1-1-dyurqvdapawhxw7b4csv-1545683476.jpg

Denver
25-12-2018, 11:13 PM
Spoilers seem to confirm he is dead

Marsh.
25-12-2018, 11:21 PM
What an underwhelming end for a fairly iconic character.

Tbf, both him and Kat outstayed their welcome 10 years ago.

And let's face it, lasting 16 years on modern EE before being killed off is quite a feat.

Marsh.
25-12-2018, 11:23 PM
I was a tad disappointed that Kat's iconic "I WILL DO TIME FOR YOU!!!" line was directed at Stacey simply for finding out a few hours earlier.

Poor Stacey and Jean got more sh*t than Hayley. :nono:

Marsh.
25-12-2018, 11:33 PM
Tomorrow: "However just as it looks like the situation is under control, things take an unexpected turn…"

My guess is they all freak out before Kat starts making plans for what stories they will give to the police and say it was an accident and then the unexpected turn is Alfie waking up and doing a runner.

Wizard.
25-12-2018, 11:38 PM
I'm Alfie's sudden personality change one minute before the end of the episode

Well he does have a brain tumour that has been completely forgotten about

LukeB
26-12-2018, 12:15 PM
Slay Eastenders had the most ratings out of the soaps with 5 million which isn’t bad because the highest rating was 6 million.

Top 10 most-watched programmes on Christmas Day 2018

1. The Queen's Christmas Broadcast (BBC One, ITV, Sky One, Sky News) - 6.4m

2. Michael McIntyre's Big Show (BBC One) - 6.1m

3. Strictly Come Dancing (BBC One) - 5.8m

4. Call The Midwife (BBC One) - 5.5m

5. Jungle Book (BBC One) - 5.2m

6. EastEnders (BBC One) - 5.0m

7. BBC Teatime News (BBC One) - 4.7m

8. Mrs Brown's Boys (BBC One) - 4.7m

9. Coronation Street (ITV) - 4.6m (including ITV +1)

10. Zog (BBC One) - 4.5m

Saph
26-12-2018, 12:51 PM
those viewing figures are shocking.. I swear 10 years ago xmas tv got like 15mil+ viewers

Redway
26-12-2018, 12:55 PM
those viewing figures are shocking.. I swear 10 years ago xmas tv got like 15mil+ viewers

Definitely not. EastEnders hasn’t gotten over 13/-14 million for a Christmas episode since 2007 and even that was a one-off.

Redway
26-12-2018, 01:00 PM
By the way, the big 3 got this Christmas 2008 just to compare:

Easties- 9.89 million (40.6%) and 11.47 million (44.9%)
Corrie: 7.36 million (30%)
Emmerdale: 4.76 million (20.5%)

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 03:03 PM
Just shows how bad Xmas schedules are.

People are more tempted by streaming now.

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 03:05 PM
Definitely not. EastEnders hasn’t gotten over 13/-14 million for a Christmas episode since 2007 and even that was a one-off.

I think Saph meant Xmas TV in general would reach those figures. Whereas the highest rating this year is 6.4 mil.

Redway
26-12-2018, 03:58 PM
I think Saph meant Xmas TV in general would reach those figures. Whereas the highest rating this year is 6.4 mil.

Ah, I see.

Can’t disagree with him. I stopped losing track of yearly ratings trend since 2012. The days of guaranteed double-digits for Christmas TV are well and truly ever.

Denver
26-12-2018, 05:44 PM
I have a feeling someone else is gonna kill Alfie similar to the Dirty Den murder

Redway
26-12-2018, 05:46 PM
Where’s Pauline’s doorstop when you need it?

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:02 PM
Hayley to kill Shane Richie's career whilst she's at it?

Firewire
26-12-2018, 07:07 PM
Alfie will escape when they aren't looking and will disappear until the summer

Denver
26-12-2018, 07:08 PM
Alfie will escape when they aren't looking and will disappear until the summer

That would be an Hollyoaks level of ridiculousness

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:17 PM
I think he'll definitely wake up whilst they're discussing what to do next.

Whether he wakes up, is fine, tells them where to go and moves on or disappears into the night I've no idea.

Ross.
26-12-2018, 07:17 PM
I’m so here for the girls covering up Alfie’s murder

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:18 PM
I’m so here for the girls covering up Alfie’s murder

Stacey has a new murderous red coat for the occasion. :love:

Ross.
26-12-2018, 07:18 PM
The way Alfie SNAPPED in the last minute of the episode :skull:

Ross.
26-12-2018, 07:19 PM
Stacey has a new murderous red coat for the occasion. :love:

Omg I’ve been meaning to come on and talk about her new red coat :love:

Denver
26-12-2018, 07:19 PM
Apparently when Archie and Bradley dies Stacey wore white

Didnt she wear white yesterday?

Denver
26-12-2018, 07:20 PM
The way Alfie SNAPPED in the last minute of the episode :skull:

Was clear for the Slater redemption.

Which is another reason i think he dies as there is no coming back from that

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:20 PM
The way Alfie SNAPPED in the last minute of the episode :skull:

Katie Jarvis was NOT having it!

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:21 PM
Was clear for the Slater redemption.

Which is another reason i think he dies as there is no coming back from that

Kat and Stacey haven't done anything. It would only damage Hayley and she's new.

Denver
26-12-2018, 07:21 PM
Kat and Stacey haven't done anything. It would only damage Hayley and she's new.

I mean the way Alfie reacted there is no way he can come back from that especially what he said about Kat

Ross.
26-12-2018, 07:22 PM
I wonder if Hayley will be sticking around after Miss Oates brought back Lola

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:23 PM
Oh. Well to be fair she basically said he's a rapist. They both went too far.

I just can't believe Tommy was never brought into the conversation.

When she scoffed at bringing up his baby with her own cousin he should have been like "ERM, that's exactly what I'm doing with Michael Moon's son!!"

Denver
26-12-2018, 07:23 PM
I wonder if Hayley will be sticking around after Miss Oates brought back Lola

She should make her a serial killer and kill off her mum as the next victim

reece(:
26-12-2018, 07:26 PM
I’m so here for the girls covering up Alfie’s murder

A Desperate Housewives tea as the Slaters all march back over to the house and Stace, Kat and Hayls shove Alfie in the cupboard under the stairs/find Mo's fake coffin?

Ross.
26-12-2018, 07:26 PM
Katie Jarvis was NOT having it!

Fumed Jessie was taking all the screentime?

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:27 PM
A Desperate Housewives tea as the Slaters all march back over to the house and Stace, Kat and Hayls shove Alfie in the cupboard under the stairs/find Mo's fake coffin?

:joker::joker::joker:

Stacey is Bree and takes charge of body disposal.

Hayley is Teri Hatcher, a quivering wreck sobbing every second the others are tired of.

Ross.
26-12-2018, 07:27 PM
A Desperate Housewives tea as the Slaters all march back over to the house and Stace, Kat and Hayls shove Alfie in the cupboard under the stairs/find Mo's fake coffin?

:joker::joker:

Not Dr Legg to take the blame on his death bed like Mrs McCluskey

Denver
26-12-2018, 07:31 PM
Perched for Alfie to run away but gets mowed down by a returning Zoe

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:33 PM
Perched for Alfie to run away but gets mowed down by a returning Zoe

Janine, not far behind, smashes into the back of her kicking off January's huge whiplash storyline with Janine in a neck brace.

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:35 PM
im gonna KILL HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:35 PM
im gonna KILL HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR

:joker:

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:36 PM
Kat to take a break and do another karaoke number at the Vic?

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:36 PM
not legend Jean knocking at the wrong time

Jason.
26-12-2018, 07:37 PM
"I don't wanna calm down I want er dead..."

*starts throttling ha*

reece(:
26-12-2018, 07:38 PM
SCREAMING at Alfie being dragged thru the house

reece(:
26-12-2018, 07:39 PM
Nnn the professional utentils

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:39 PM
can they not just tell Jean alfies sleeping

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:41 PM
mess @ them not even trying to hide the body

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:41 PM
OMFG they're actually covering his death up in a comedy caper. :laugh2:

EE continues to surprise. :laugh3:

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:42 PM
Him to hide under the stairs with the biscuits?

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:42 PM
NOT jean being so extra

reece(:
26-12-2018, 07:43 PM
"He can't be dead! Look at him"

Ahh

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:44 PM
I'm Kat administering kisses instead of CPR.

Denver
26-12-2018, 07:47 PM
Kat's me when someone breaks down on my shoulder and i just tap their hand

Rob!
26-12-2018, 07:47 PM
This is utterly bonkers

reece(:
26-12-2018, 07:48 PM
The tap water being a sub-plot this episode :joker:

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:48 PM
"A glass of water????!!! Do you girls want anything?"

:laugh2:

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:48 PM
our Pat to return again through the slaters back door?

https://media.giphy.com/media/1popSSbfbY66sjnCuH/giphy.gif

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:50 PM
"You're the only one to ever look after me!"

This is why Simon Ashdown shouldn't be drafted in to write the big episode to a plot he hasn't followed. Jean has looked after her, Kat's done nothing but show her disgust from the start.

Denver
26-12-2018, 07:51 PM
Kat started the plans to cover it up :clap1:

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:51 PM
im screaming at Jean :joker:

Rob!
26-12-2018, 07:51 PM
Jean stepping over his body with the tea and crumpets omg :skull:

reece(:
26-12-2018, 07:52 PM
Jean with the buttered crumpets ahhh she SNAPPED

"I like it in here it's christmassy, so christmassy" (Santa's costume is over Alfie's festering corpse)

AHHHH

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:53 PM
I swear the slater episodes are always the best

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:54 PM
On a serious note, what on earth are they thinking with this storyline? :skull:

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:55 PM
alfies definitely alive

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:56 PM
"and I told nan"

not Mo getting the blame

Rob!
26-12-2018, 07:57 PM
:unsure:

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 07:57 PM
This is Shane Richie's best performance ever.

reece(:
26-12-2018, 07:57 PM
Not Harry brought into it

Saph
26-12-2018, 07:58 PM
its so obvious Alfies taken cherry and driven off

Rob!
26-12-2018, 07:58 PM
Alfie’s blatantly just pinched Cherry

Headie
26-12-2018, 07:59 PM
What a mess

Saph
26-12-2018, 08:00 PM
"where is he now"

"...we moved him"

mess

Rob!
26-12-2018, 08:01 PM
What a ****ing ridiculous episode

Denver
26-12-2018, 08:02 PM
Terrible

reece(:
26-12-2018, 08:02 PM
Bye he should've been dead

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 08:07 PM
What was the "noise" all about?

Pat's ghost?

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 08:10 PM
Kat: Stacey got away wiv murder for ages Hayley, we'll stand by yer won't we Stace?

Stacey: https://i.imgur.com/5TglsYt.png?2

reece(:
26-12-2018, 08:10 PM
What was the "noise" all about?

Pat's ghost?

Ian looking for his utensils in the yard?

LukeB
26-12-2018, 08:11 PM
Messy but it was still a great episode but yesterdays was far better.

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 08:18 PM
Sad really because now it's obvious they had no intention of giving Kat and Alfie a clean split to allow Kat to continue without him. He'll be gone for 6-12 months whilst Shane Richie does his other projects with a plan to return full time after. :(

Cal.
26-12-2018, 08:25 PM
Bev sold Alfie’s body to medical science and Cherry on the black market

Marsh.
26-12-2018, 08:31 PM
Bev sold Alfie’s body to medical science and Cherry on the black market

:joker:

Firewire
26-12-2018, 08:36 PM
Alfie will escape when they aren't looking and will disappear until the summer

:idc:

Greg!
26-12-2018, 08:38 PM
Kat: Stacey got away wiv murder for ages Hayley, we'll stand by yer won't we Stace?

Stacey: https://i.imgur.com/5TglsYt.png?2

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Firewire
26-12-2018, 08:38 PM
Need an episode with Hayley, Kat and Stacey on the road hunting down Alfie

Firewire
26-12-2018, 08:38 PM
Kat: Stacey got away wiv murder for ages Hayley, we'll stand by yer won't we Stace?

Stacey: https://i.imgur.com/5TglsYt.png?2

dasfghjgsdzhgfjfdhsda

Firewire
26-12-2018, 08:39 PM
Claudette did it better!

Greg!
26-12-2018, 08:39 PM
I'm fumed tbh! Wanted a coverup storyline!

BBUK-Fan
26-12-2018, 09:18 PM
Great twist

Natalie.
27-12-2018, 08:12 AM
Kat: Stacey got away wiv murder for ages Hayley, we'll stand by yer won't we Stace?

Stacey: https://i.imgur.com/5TglsYt.png?2

:joker::joker::joker:

Cal.
27-12-2018, 10:58 AM
And somebody is going to make us some gifs, I’d expect?

Firewire
27-12-2018, 11:52 AM
I’m paying Ashley overtime x

Rob!
27-12-2018, 12:41 PM
Jono showing off his tv production wages again https://i.imgur.com/5TglsYt.png?2

Ashley.
27-12-2018, 12:46 PM
"Ronnie and Roxy are brilliant, a dynamic duo of modern times, superb, a credit to the show."

Sean O'Connor: https://i.imgur.com/5TglsYt.png?2

Marsh.
27-12-2018, 10:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/p87NXIm.gif

Marsh.
27-12-2018, 11:20 PM
Miss Lou after one of the punters takes her barmaid banter too seriously and accosts her outside the ladies loos.

https://imgur.com/J9dT83Y.gif

Marsh.
27-12-2018, 11:57 PM
Mel, Lisa and Ray's podcast storyline...

Mel and Lisa are in Portugal (2003) and Mel tells Lisa that every time she sees baby Hunter, she sees Steve. She then locks herself in a room and Lisa is worried. Mel opens the door and says she couldn't go through with killing herself. Lisa helps her by sending her to a rehab center for 20 days.

In a group therapy session, she meets Ray who is there since during his job as a policeman he killed someone and felt guilty. Afterwards, he formally meets Mel and they bond over horse riding. Mel asks someone for his room number and she pops by - they end up sleeping with each other.

After the 20 days, Lisa tells Mel she's much happier than ever and warns her not to go after another 'messed up man'. On their next date, Ray has a panic attack since he thought he saw the guy he killed, and Mel calms him down. Mel asks him to come back with her and meet Hunter. Ray tells Lisa that his sister's (Ciara's) baby had passed away. Lisa tells Ray about her thug ex (Phil) taking her baby Louise and Ray tells her he will try and get her back from Phil.

Ray realises someone is following him - his wife, Nicola, hired a private investigator who thought he was having an affair. Ray offers to pay him off so his wife doesn't find out but he refuses to accept. Ray tracks down his house and chucks him over the balcony, killing him. Ray then goes to Mel and even though it had only been 6 weeks, proposes to Mel - she accepts.

Can I ask why all the actual stories happen offscreen in EastEnders the last few years?

Some variation of this unfolding ONSCREEN in the present could have been excellent and given Ray around 2-3 years of plot and become a decent villain for the show. :think:

I really don't get it.

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 12:04 AM
I forgot someone is actually supposed to be dying for real.

We love a murder!

https://i.imgur.com/9zMGxjb.jpg?1

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 12:06 AM
I think Maddie is going to end up dead and Mel is going to get pulled into helping Ray cover it up somehow. She then panics and tries to expose it in the New Year leading Ray to get Hunter arrested.

Cal.
28-12-2018, 01:04 AM
Mel, Lisa and Ray's podcast storyline...

Mel and Lisa are in Portugal (2003) and Mel tells Lisa that every time she sees baby Hunter, she sees Steve. She then locks herself in a room and Lisa is worried. Mel opens the door and says she couldn't go through with killing herself. Lisa helps her by sending her to a rehab center for 20 days.

In a group therapy session, she meets Ray who is there since during his job as a policeman he killed someone and felt guilty. Afterwards, he formally meets Mel and they bond over horse riding. Mel asks someone for his room number and she pops by - they end up sleeping with each other.

After the 20 days, Lisa tells Mel she's much happier than ever and warns her not to go after another 'messed up man'. On their next date, Ray has a panic attack since he thought he saw the guy he killed, and Mel calms him down. Mel asks him to come back with her and meet Hunter. Ray tells Lisa that his sister's (Ciara's) baby had passed away. Lisa tells Ray about her thug ex (Phil) taking her baby Louise and Ray tells her he will try and get her back from Phil.

Ray realises someone is following him - his wife, Nicola, hired a private investigator who thought he was having an affair. Ray offers to pay him off so his wife doesn't find out but he refuses to accept. Ray tracks down his house and chucks him over the balcony, killing him. Ray then goes to Mel and even though it had only been 6 weeks, proposes to Mel - she accepts.

Can I ask why all the actual stories happen offscreen in EastEnders the last few years?

Some variation of this unfolding ONSCREEN in the present could have been excellent and given Ray around 2-3 years of plot and become a decent villain for the show. :think:

I really don't get it.

All this on screen would have been FANTASTIC.

Cal.
28-12-2018, 01:04 AM
I think Maddie is going to end up dead and Mel is going to get pulled into helping Ray cover it up somehow. She then panics and tries to expose it in the New Year leading Ray to get Hunter arrested.

I think this too.

reece(:
28-12-2018, 01:21 AM
Miss Maddie better not get clocked

The other wife can go

Rob!
28-12-2018, 01:24 AM
Mel, Lisa and Ray's podcast storyline...

Mel and Lisa are in Portugal (2003) and Mel tells Lisa that every time she sees baby Hunter, she sees Steve. She then locks herself in a room and Lisa is worried. Mel opens the door and says she couldn't go through with killing herself. Lisa helps her by sending her to a rehab center for 20 days.

In a group therapy session, she meets Ray who is there since during his job as a policeman he killed someone and felt guilty. Afterwards, he formally meets Mel and they bond over horse riding. Mel asks someone for his room number and she pops by - they end up sleeping with each other.

After the 20 days, Lisa tells Mel she's much happier than ever and warns her not to go after another 'messed up man'. On their next date, Ray has a panic attack since he thought he saw the guy he killed, and Mel calms him down. Mel asks him to come back with her and meet Hunter. Ray tells Lisa that his sister's (Ciara's) baby had passed away. Lisa tells Ray about her thug ex (Phil) taking her baby Louise and Ray tells her he will try and get her back from Phil.

Ray realises someone is following him - his wife, Nicola, hired a private investigator who thought he was having an affair. Ray offers to pay him off so his wife doesn't find out but he refuses to accept. Ray tracks down his house and chucks him over the balcony, killing him. Ray then goes to Mel and even though it had only been 6 weeks, proposes to Mel - she accepts.

Can I ask why all the actual stories happen offscreen in EastEnders the last few years?

Some variation of this unfolding ONSCREEN in the present could have been excellent and given Ray around 2-3 years of plot and become a decent villain for the show. :think:

I really don't get it.


Why the hell wouldn’t they give us ANY of this on screen :laugh2:

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 01:30 AM
Poor Tamzin Outhwaite paid DUST!

The only way to save this is to have Miss Lisa storm into the wedding on NYD.

Rob!
28-12-2018, 01:32 AM
I feel like I wouldn’t have known about the wedding if I hadn’t read it on here.
I’m intrigued to see where the storyline goes but I feel Ray is too interesting a character to dispose of just yet. That IS mainly down to the fact that the actor is probably better than the character though.

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 01:45 AM
They've given him nothing to work with.

It feels like they've changed their minds on what storyline they want to tell with Mel about 4 or 5 times so it feels like she hasn't gone anywhere in 12 months.

He had a pretty good introduction in his first episode, they've ignored Mel's history with Portugal/Lisa/Louise (has she even had scenes with Louise in months?) and, most stupid of all, forgotten the backstory of Ray's they set up themselves only in January. :crazy:

I wonder if the show was always this haphazard and it's just more noticeable now.

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 01:46 AM
Also, I think the show should broadcast in two hour long episodes a week (maybe Tuesday and Thursday?) and take July and August off?

Make it darker and speed up the pace a tad?

Though I suppose it would be a bit like an American show then, where the show returns in September and all of the cast are bright orange from their 2 month summer holidays. :hehe:

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 06:10 PM
"Oh, God!"

"What?"

"Phil! He's seen everything, innit?"

---

"His absent father's eyes, but we can forgive him for that! Can't we?"

:laugh2:

reece(:
28-12-2018, 06:23 PM
Mel has been offscreen for like two weeks now and there's what, 2 eps till the wedding?

The bloc story telling JUMPED out.

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 06:24 PM
Mel has been offscreen for like two weeks now and there's what, 2 eps till the wedding?

The bloc story telling JUMPED out.

Serving Sam Womack taking a month off before her death episode.

Daniel-X
28-12-2018, 06:25 PM
If Our Maddie is the one who pops ha cork I will NOT be happy.

End Hunter or Ray instead! (Or even Mel for that matter!)

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 06:27 PM
If Our Maddie is the one who pops ha cork I will NOT be happy.

End Hunter or Ray instead! (Or even Mel for that matter!)

We want Nicola dead! :nono: Stuck up cow!

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 06:28 PM
Maybe Maddie lashes out and kills their kid in revenge so he pops off and kills her?

Mel and Ray burying both of them in the woods? :omgno:

reece(:
28-12-2018, 06:38 PM
Serving Sam Womack taking a month off before her death episode.

Those Ongar house viewings really took a toll on Ronnie.

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 07:17 PM
Not a dead ex wife.

Another OFF SCREEN twist. :rolleyes:

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 07:19 PM
I find it so weird seeing Phil in normal "dinner" scenes and waving at kids and stuff. :skull:

He's become such a caricature he doesn't seem real.

Marsh.
28-12-2018, 07:47 PM
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reece(:
28-12-2018, 08:40 PM
Maddie needs to be a regular!

Rob!
28-12-2018, 08:54 PM
Oooh

reece(:
28-12-2018, 08:54 PM
Mel clinking with her angels ahh.

Greg!
28-12-2018, 10:35 PM
I'm Phil getting involved in every single storyline

Greg!
28-12-2018, 10:50 PM
Miss Kate Oates will be answering questions on Twitter on New Year's Day btw!

Rob!
28-12-2018, 11:51 PM
Phil is a howl recently.

Are they setting up a him and Kim romance after the whole Sharon and Keanu thing comes out?

Gstar
29-12-2018, 03:07 AM
Mess @ Alfie taking the baby. There was no point of him returning and they've pretty much ruined Kat and Alfie as a couple

Mels storyline is currently my favourite, would of been nice to see more backstory though

Show still needs improvement.

reece(:
29-12-2018, 06:00 AM
Mess at the Slaters not being in last night's ep

thisisdanny
29-12-2018, 07:22 AM
Mess at the Slaters not being in last night's ep

Alfie came back to kidnap them all?

Firewire
29-12-2018, 11:48 AM
Tamzin was only supposed to be back for a year but is staying a “little longer”

https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/a25705593/eastenders-tamzin-outhwaite-extended-contract-original-return-year-long-stint/

Ashley.
30-12-2018, 03:07 AM
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The fact that I've been watching for over a month now and none of this makes sense to me.

Cal.
30-12-2018, 08:44 AM
Did anyone know Shakil was gay irl I just found out this very second

Marsh.
30-12-2018, 09:38 AM
The fact that I've been watching for over a month now and none of this makes sense to me.

:joker:

The storyline has been given about 6 scenes since June. :skull:

Ross.
30-12-2018, 09:43 AM
The actor who plays Ray is really good so it’s so disappointing how little development they’ve gave his character

Ross.
30-12-2018, 09:43 AM
Tamzin was only supposed to be back for a year but is staying a “little longer”

https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/a25705593/eastenders-tamzin-outhwaite-extended-contract-original-return-year-long-stint/

Bye at her planning to leave next year

Cal.
30-12-2018, 09:44 AM
The supposed story of Ray abusing Hunter like Tony/Whitney would have been far more interesting. Those early scenes where he spiked his drink were dark.!

Marsh.
30-12-2018, 09:51 AM
No. DS are obsessed with male rape. Perverts!!!

BBUK-Fan
30-12-2018, 09:57 AM
Did anyone know Shakil was gay irl I just found out this very second

Didn’t think so, thought he was with the one played Star/ Linzi

Wizard.
30-12-2018, 10:41 AM
Oh we have to put up with Chaz Winters awful acting again huh

Wizard.
30-12-2018, 10:42 AM
Didn’t think so, thought he was with the one played Star/ Linzi

He is, Cal is desperate!

Nancy.
30-12-2018, 10:43 AM
Jean stepping over his body with the tea and crumpets omg :skull:

:joker: Jean was a scream during the Christmas episode. I love her to bits.

Nancy.
30-12-2018, 10:45 AM
alfies definitely alive

Unfortunately.

I never liked Alfie, so his vanishing act with Cherry was a disappointment to the say least.

Denver
30-12-2018, 12:04 PM
Did anyone know Shakil was gay irl I just found out this very second

No he isnt he just plays a gay character in Casualty

Rob!
30-12-2018, 12:07 PM
The actor who plays Ray is really good so it’s so disappointing how little development they’ve gave his character

He’s fantastic. He was amazing in Red Rock:flutter: (even though he was playing a pretty similar part)

Greg!
31-12-2018, 07:09 PM
It feels weird having the Mel storyline and the Slaters in the same ep! Feels like it never happens

Denver
31-12-2018, 07:20 PM
More Lisa references her return must be incoming??

Greg!
31-12-2018, 07:21 PM
Miss Lisa is 100% coming back omg

Greg!
31-12-2018, 07:21 PM
Oh wow! Whitneypointing.gif

Greg!
31-12-2018, 07:21 PM
Kat breaking into Ian's SCREAMING

Amy Jade
31-12-2018, 07:50 PM
Anyone else cringe at Hayley's 'crying'?

Marsh.
31-12-2018, 08:34 PM
Anyone else cringe at Hayley's 'crying'?

Yeah, she overacts crying.

Decent actress but that's definitely her limitation.

BBUK-Fan
31-12-2018, 09:31 PM
Gay bar opening in Eastenders

Barry.
31-12-2018, 09:36 PM
I thought Alfie was meant to get out into hospital Christmas. Was this a fake rumor?

Marsh.
31-12-2018, 09:38 PM
I thought Alfie was meant to get out into hospital Christmas. Was this a fake rumor?

He was pushed down the stairs if that's what you mean?

Marsh.
31-12-2018, 09:49 PM
So proud of Bernie coming out as a lezza! :clap1:

Barry.
31-12-2018, 10:39 PM
He was pushed down the stairs if that's what you mean?

One of the papers said he was fighting for his life lol.

Marsh.
31-12-2018, 10:45 PM
One of the papers said he was fighting for his life lol.

:joker:

No, he's done a runner with the baby.

Amy Jade
31-12-2018, 10:46 PM
Yeah, she overacts crying.

Decent actress but that's definitely her limitation.

She was brilliant up until recently. The crying she does is so bad. She goes 'ahhhwuhh ahhhwuhh' or something and it's so distracting to me haha

Black Dagger
31-12-2018, 10:47 PM
Gay bar opening in Eastenders

Do they even have any gay characters rn

Marsh.
31-12-2018, 10:47 PM
Made worse by the fact that sobbing in the corner was literally all she did for an hour on Christmas Day before chucking Alfie down the stairs.

Marsh.
31-12-2018, 10:48 PM
Do they even have any gay characters rn

https://celebratingthesoaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/1-1-3.jpeg

Barry.
31-12-2018, 10:48 PM
https://celebratingthesoaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/1-1-3.jpeg

Lonely hearts club?

Black Dagger
31-12-2018, 10:49 PM
https://celebratingthesoaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/1-1-3.jpeg

Oh she is?! I've not watched properly in ages tbf

Marsh.
31-12-2018, 10:50 PM
We love the next lesbo power couple!

https://images.immediate.co.uk/volatile/sites/3/2018/08/Screen-Shot-2018-08-14-at-15.06.12-03d189f.png?quality=90&resize=620,413

RileyH
31-12-2018, 10:55 PM
Why is poor Tiff lowering haself like that

Marsh.
31-12-2018, 10:56 PM
Why is poor Tiff lowering haself like that

She's not dating you so how could she?

RileyH
31-12-2018, 10:57 PM
:notimpressed:

Marsh.
31-12-2018, 11:19 PM
4 years since Miss Emma Summerhayes croaked it.

https://media.tenor.com/images/1cddffb6578fd76c275819bbcedcad30/tenor.gif

Black Dagger
01-01-2019, 11:17 AM
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x

Cal.
01-01-2019, 11:38 AM
I love her :love:

Very happy she confirmed more to come from Ruby as I feared she would leave following the end of her story line.

Denver
01-01-2019, 11:43 AM
A return in spring that is short term i am guessing is a big character? maybe Bianca seeing as she loves her

Denver
01-01-2019, 11:49 AM
So she will be announcing male characters soon i am guessing a gay couple?

Denver
01-01-2019, 11:49 AM
Also we have to wait till end of Feb for her stories to develop on screen

Firewire
01-01-2019, 12:10 PM
Since it’s the new year I’ve made a new thread xx

Nancy.
01-01-2019, 01:26 PM
I DO wish Bernie would get rid of that manky purple jacket. What a mess.

Marsh.
01-01-2019, 03:59 PM
The Saviour has Risen!

https://i.imgur.com/p35TFdk.gif

Rob!
01-01-2019, 05:54 PM
I’d like to see some more LGBTQ actors hired. From all the gay characters over the past few years, Ben, Paul, both Johnnys, Tina, Sonia, they’ve all been played by straight actors. Only the actor playing Riley was actually trans and relevant to the role. I’m not saying gay people HAVE to play gay people of course, but it would be nice to see.

Denver
01-01-2019, 06:05 PM
The women who plays Tina has been with her wife for 15 years though

Niamh.
01-01-2019, 06:47 PM
I’d like to see some more LGBTQ actors hired. From all the gay characters over the past few years, Ben, Paul, both Johnnys, Tina, Sonia, they’ve all been played by straight actors. Only the actor playing Riley was actually trans and relevant to the role. I’m not saying gay people HAVE to play gay people of course, but it would be nice to see.Tbf Sonia's character has been in it since she was a kid so they probably wouldn't have known if she was straight or gay back then plus she was straight originally [emoji12]

LukeB
01-01-2019, 06:52 PM
Luisa Bradshaw-White(Tina Carter) is not straight, she is married to a woman and they adopted two kids together.

thisisdanny
01-01-2019, 07:32 PM
Just experienced Deja vu. Hunter channelling his inner Jean

thisisdanny
01-01-2019, 07:37 PM
Oh Danny Dyer :drool:

armand.kay
01-01-2019, 07:46 PM
Oh Danny Dyer :drool:

girl what?

Marsh.
01-01-2019, 09:22 PM
I’d like to see some more LGBTQ actors hired. From all the gay characters over the past few years, Ben, Paul, both Johnnys, Tina, Sonia, they’ve all been played by straight actors. Only the actor playing Riley was actually trans and relevant to the role. I’m not saying gay people HAVE to play gay people of course, but it would be nice to see.

Nat Cass has dipped her toe in the waters of Lesbos!

Marsh.
01-01-2019, 09:23 PM
girl what?

He dropped his pants and made prawns with Linda with his willy out.

Niamh.
02-01-2019, 11:25 AM
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=353295