Boris has asked the Queen to suspend Parliment, The Queen has now approved

[jet]

I mean... for a start, the article is from 2017 and the entire premise on it is based on trying to predict "what the terms are of the deal we secure with the EU". Two years ago a deal was very much still expected and now it's looking impossible so that immediately makes the article less relevant to the current situation. Secondly, the focus is on the long-term prospects which really apply more to business and the wealthy who can afford to "ride the waves". The short-term impact is looking to be a disaster for the middle and working classes, i.e., "normal people with normal lives".

The current situation is unprecedented. I wasn't particularly worried in 2017. I thought Brexit was a mistake but fully expected there to be a trade deal in place by the point of exit - just one that would be a bit of a drag on the economy. I am extremely worried right now. I don't trust that the current government is "prepared" for no-deal in the slightest and I think it's going to happen. I think there will be very noticeable immediate food and medicine shortages. I know that jobs will be lost. I think people and families will end up in debt/poverty spirals. I think lives will be ruined.

A recent read:
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/brexit/brexit-no-deal-benefits-positive-consequences-uk-leaving-eu-explained-496259

It gives more negatives of a no deal but is interesting reading.

[Niamh.]

Spurs got beat again.[emoji23] Brexits fault

[Alf]

Leave with no deal and then the EU will come grovelling to us.

That's what's gonna happen.

[Twosugars]

Leave with no deal and then the EU will come grovelling to us.

That's what's gonna happen.

Yeah like they were going to do to get a deal.
Grow up and stop telling fairytales

[Beso]

[emoji23] Brexits fault


I blame michael fish myself...

[Beso]

Mod multi

[Beso]

This is tibb these days...bored mods making multi to wind up the residents. ..I mentioned this way back when bb was still on...I mentioned that mods hardly ever posted about big brother when it was in season but you hot all these new instant wind up merchants joining trying to instantly run the place. ...are you a mod multi Kizzy?


You just called me a **** or something, and have been pissing about with quotes all day.....only mods are capable of that if I believe I'm correct?

[Kizzy]

This is tibb these days...bored mods making multi to wind up the residents. ..I mentioned this way back when bb was still on...I mentioned that mods hardly ever posted about big brother when it was in season but you hot all these new instant wind up merchants joining trying to instantly run the place. ...are you a mod multi Kizzy?


You just called me a **** or something, and have been pissing about with quotes all day.....only mods are capable of that if I believe I'm correct?

Yes that's correct.. wow you outed me, you are clever. Darn it, I would've got away with it too if it wasn't for your meddlin.... :fist:

[Beso]

Yes that's correct.. wow you outed me, you are clever. Darn it, I would've got away with it too if it wasn't for your meddlin.... :fist:

Thank you for answering a simple yes or no question...


So what's with the pissing about with the quoting system?


I thought you were leaning more to the intelligent side, so to speak....and calling me a **** :fist:


Then instantly editing it.....makes you a bit like one, no?


Say it and take the ban, instead of being so lefty.

[Beso]

Oh...and look at that..

All Kizzys posts and mine that instigate her in my accusations dissappear. ..no wonder you can't find out how to screen shot on tibb.

[Kizzy]

:joker:Oh...and look at that..

All Kizzys posts and mine that instigate her in my accusations dissappear. ..no wonder you can't find out how to screen shot on tibb.

:joker: they're still there, I'm not a mod anyone can edit their own posts parm. And I put S T F U ... as a joke but it just starred it out like I'd sworn properly so I edited that too.

[Beso]

:joker:

:joker: they're still there, I'm not a mod anyone can edit their own posts parm. And I put S T F U ... as a joke but it just starred it out like I'd sworn properly so I edited that too.

What post was it that made you tell me to shut up...?

I'm willing to take it from there.

[Kizzy]

What post was it that made you tell me to shut up...?

I'm willing to take it from there.

Ah...it's gone. Not guilty lol!

[Tom4784]

Leave with no deal and then the EU will come grovelling to us.

That's what's gonna happen.

This is the problem with brexiters, they have an inflated sense of self worth. The UK is not a major power and it hasn't been for a very long time and there will be no one in the EU begging us to come back, if anything the way things are going, we're going to be begging for deals with whoever we can and we're destined to basically be the US' bitch.

Brexiters were gullible enough to believe a lot of bull**** about the EU and they claim that this is about freedom but they just want to make us turn tricks for Trump at this point. We are not in a position of power, Brexiters have marched us off the cliff and now we're looking for a bit of debris to hang on to stop us from drowning. To think that the EU will beg us to come back is just plain delusional.

[Beso]

:inamood:Ah...it's gone. Not guilty lol!

I can screen shot now.:smug:



Edit...just can't copy and past links yet..

[Cherie]

Cherie I do wish you were consisted.

a deal of some sorts is what you said??


Right now Cummings deal is a no go.Of course you know this as a woman from the Rebel county..right??

I think I’m pretty consistent :laugh:

[Beso]

I ****e every day, sometimes twice....


But always on tibb.

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/INW61rdmwaaYKKho-NWYJg/https/media.fyre.co/VnlB5sXLQz2gJl4NH4ws_express.JPG

[Alf]

3 cheers for Boris

Hip hip

[Liberty4eva]

As someone from outside the UK I would like to comment on this whole mess.

The UK is like the abused housewife that has announced her intentions to divorce her bad husband but can never quite get the courage to do it. She'll only divorce if she can get the husband to agree on a good deal (custody of the children, etc.). The husband of course is not going to agree to these terms because he thinks his wife deep down is too chicken-**** and she won't leave him. And he is right. He's going to make it as difficult as possible for her.

It's been 3 years already. It's time to get on with this. I'm not even from the UK and I am tired of hearing about this. If WTO is the best you can do, then so be it. If you think the EU was going to make it easy on the UK to leave, you haven't the faintest clue how this world really works. It was always going to be a messy divorce. In the short term it's probably going to be an unpleasant transition but the economy will come back. Just get it over with.

If you think WTO rules are bad, ask your ancestors who lived through WW2 how bad that was. That generation had courage. They had to deal with bombs landing in their cities. And you are worried that the price of bread (or whatever) might go up a little if their is no trade deal? Get a backbone.

[Niamh.]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/INW61rdmwaaYKKho-NWYJg/https/media.fyre.co/VnlB5sXLQz2gJl4NH4ws_express.JPGI mean that was always his plan anyway, wasn't it?

[arista]

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[arista]

I mean that was always his plan anyway, wasn't it?


Maybe Dom Cummings has
a Top Secret Plan.
No Extension due to a special way through the
Benn Act (also called the Surrender Act)

[arista]

Parliament
is closing Monday 14th Oct for a few days
for a Queens Speech.

[arista]

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The Sexy young , then
USA Lady.


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1180638595289436162/7E6xRYyB?format=jpg&name=small
On the Bus as well...................

[arista]

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A Biddie
Angry in the Area
Johnson PM is the MP,

[Beso]

1180755149473615872

A Biddie
Angry in the Area
Johnson PM is the MP,

So the trip was all about Sophie in the end...Sophie and her twitter likes...

Pathetic.

[Alf]

1180755149473615872

A Biddie
Angry in the Area
Johnson PM is the MP,:laugh:

[Kizzy]

Biddie. .. how rude. This is an voter fom his constituency. Her opinion is valid.
Casual ageism/ sexism that's what i see when terms like this appear on the forum. No other slurs would be tolerated.

[arista]

Biddie. .. how rude. This is an voter fom his constituency. Her opinion is valid.
Casual ageism/ sexism that's what i see when terms like this appear on the forum. No other slurs would be tolerated.


No its a normal word
for old women


And Yes her Opinion is very valid
hence why I posted a Ridge tweet

[Twosugars]

Arista's sexist language is a worry

[Kazanne]

Biddie. .. how rude. This is an voter fom his constituency. Her opinion is valid.
Casual ageism/ sexism that's what i see when terms like this appear on the forum. No other slurs would be tolerated.

Glad to hear that Kizzy ,many would want her to die off :hehe:

[arista]

Arista's sexist language is a worry


I have used the word before
no worry

[Twosugars]

I have used the word before
no worry

You use all sorts of words for women, like bitch or tart for example

Do you hate women Arista?

[Cherie]

Glad to hear that Kizzy ,many would want her to die off :hehe:

If only all older voters views were as valid as this ladies :laugh:

[arista]

You use all sorts of words for women, like bitch or tart for example

Do you hate women Arista?



No I Love Good Women

[Cherie]

You use all sorts of words for women, like bitch or tart for example

Do you hate women Arista?

He also uses Madame to address forum ladies lest we forget

[Alf]

Arista, just tell the language Police to sod off!

They're acting like a bunch of old biddies.

[Twosugars]

He also uses Madame to address forum ladies lest we forget

Yes, he is afraid of Josy :hehe:

[arista]

Yes, he is afraid of Josy :hehe:



No I am not

[arista]

Arista, just tell the language Police to sod off!

They're acting like a bunch of old biddies.


Yes its Terrible

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGMlixCX0AAfUEw?format=png&name=small

[Twosugars]

So lady hale is an enemy too?
How low but how unsurprising

[Beso]

So what's the male version for old biddie?

Fuddy duddy?

[Nicky91]

ffs brexit party :fist:

we really should look into their god i mean farage, what dirt we can find on him

i highly doubt they are perfect themselves

[Kizzy]

Glad to hear that Kizzy ,many would want her to die off :hehe:

Yes old people die, who knew?
Nobody wants them to its just a fact.

[Kizzy]

If only all older voters views were as valid as this ladies :laugh:

Yes if only, being a constituent maybe the scales have fallen from her eyes... maybe she's one of the enlightened ones, who knows?

[Kizzy]

No its a normal word
for old women


And Yes her Opinion is very valid
hence why I posted a Ridge tweet

Normal for you...not me.

[Beso]

Normal for you...not me.

Labour just love everyone to be normal, and controlled.

[arista]

GMBHD itv tomorrow AM LIVE

1180867945595056128

[smudgie]

He also uses Madame to address forum ladies lest we forget

Yes...but he calls women honey.
So sweet.:joker:

[Cherie]

Yes if only, being a constituent maybe the scales have fallen from her eyes... maybe she's one of the enlightened ones, who knows?

being enlightened is subjective of course, and everyone's vote is valid as it is down to personal choice, that's democracy...

[bots]

#FilthyPieceOfToeRag is trending on twitter :laugh:

[Kizzy]

Labour just love everyone to be normal, and controlled.

As opposed to what...abnormal and uncontrolled? yeah best see bojo for that mate.

[Alf]

#FilthyPieceOfToeRag is trending on twitter :laugh:That's it then, Boris is definitely finished now.

[Kizzy]

being enlightened is subjective of course, and everyone's vote is valid as it is down to personal choice, that's democracy...

I don't recall saying it wasnt :shrug: all I said was old people die.

[Cherie]

I don't recall saying it wasnt :shrug: all I said was old people die.

we all know what you meant Kizzy, old people dying has nothing to do with this thread, unless it applies to the way they vote, you can try to swerve it all you want, its funny that Bojo is called a dictator when there seems to be plenty little dictators around who are just waiting for people to die if they don't like their politics

[Kizzy]

we all know what you meant Kizzy, old people dying has nothing to do with this thread, unless it applies to the way they vote, you can try to swerve it all you want, its funny that Bojo is called a dictator when there seems to be plenty little dictators around who are just waiting for people to die if they don't like their politics

I'm going to explain it one more time.

2s made a comment you took exception to, I agreed with that comment as I too feel that the conservatives of recent years relied heavily on the 'grey vote',
the point being that those voters (not that anyone wants them to) will die.

The conservatives of today cannot rely on that grey vote any longer because the direction of the party has (in my opinion) changed.

I hope that helps.

[Kazanne]

That's it then, Boris is definitely finished now.

:joker::joker::joker:

[Twosugars]

I'm going to explain it one more time.

2s made a comment you took exception to, I agreed with that comment as I too feel that the conservatives of recent years relied heavily on the 'grey vote',
the point being that those voters (not that anyone wants them to) will die.

The conservatives of today cannot rely on that grey vote any longer because the direction of the party has (in my opinion) changed.

I hope that helps.

Dont worry Kizzy. Some people simply insist on getting offended.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1180851976248217607/Ozd57OMf?format=jpg&name=small

Tomorrow this American Lady
is Live on GMBHD itv AM

[Beso]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1180851976248217607/Ozd57OMf?format=jpg&name=small

Tomorrow this American Lady
is Live on GMBHD itv AM

I hope she is worth the money...certainly looks like it from here.:hehe:

[Liberty4eva]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1180851976248217607/Ozd57OMf?format=jpg&name=small

Tomorrow this American Lady
is Live on GMBHD itv AM

What would Boris want with Shrek's wife?

[Cherie]

Dont worry Kizzy. Some people simply insist on getting offended.

and you will insist on being passive aggressive 90 per cent of the time

[Cherie]

I'm going to explain it one more time.

2s made a comment you took exception to, I agreed with that comment as I too feel that the conservatives of recent years relied heavily on the 'grey vote',
the point being that those voters (not that anyone wants them to) will die.

The conservatives of today cannot rely on that grey vote any longer because the direction of the party has (in my opinion) changed.

I hope that helps.

yes his comment was with regard to older tory voters dying, and the youth rising up and asking to rejoin the EU, and you agreed with that, thank you for the confirmation

[Twosugars]

and you will insist on being passive aggressive 90 per cent of the time

Have no patience with ignorance :D

[Cherie]

Have no patience with ignorance :D

oh get you, right back at you

[Kizzy]

yes his comment was with regard to older tory voters dying, and the youth rising up and asking to rejoin the EU, and you agreed with that, thank you for the confirmation

Ive explained what I agreed with Cherie, not sure what all this 'uprising' business is?
You're just baiting now with this pedantic badgering of this point. :/

[Beso]

What would Boris want with Shrek's wife?

She's almost super model like, compared to average American. .

Aforable(that's uk slang for affordable and adorable)

[joeysteele]

I'm going to explain it one more time.

2s made a comment you took exception to, I agreed with that comment as I too feel that the conservatives of recent years relied heavily on the 'grey vote',
the point being that those voters (not that anyone wants them to) will die.

The conservatives of today cannot rely on that grey vote any longer because the direction of the party has (in my opinion) changed.

I hope that helps.



Kizzy, you don't need to explain anything to anyone.
You've made your point and its clear.

You meant no insult or malice to older people.
Most on here will know that.

It is accepted by the Con Party itself, it has difficulty with young voters.
It is trying very hard now to start to try and reach out to them.
The Party knows it is supported more by the grey vote mostly.
However they are worried at a diminishing of that vote for them, as you say..
Hence their determination to set out to win more younger voters than they have now.

I don't even like that term the grey vote.

Just keep your energy I say, to raising your strong valid points on the wrongs and failures of this PM and government.
All Parties have good and bad about them, and good and not so good policies.

You know in my case, it is the heartlessness and degrading policy of the Cons against the most vulnerable, sick and disabled, subjecting them to degrading testing.
That turned me solidly against them.

So, whatever happens with older voters supporting the Cons and whether they are successful in gaining much younger voters, only time will tell that.

You make strong valid points Kizzy and need not answer, or repeatedly need to either,when you've clearly clarified and stated your reasoning more than once.
I understood clearly your point with no difficulty whatsoever.

[Kizzy]

Thanks joey sometimes I think..is it me? Am I going nuts? :joker:

[Cherie]

Thanks joey sometimes I think..is it me? Am I going nuts? :joker:

And you accuse me of baiting :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Thanks joey sometimes I think..is it me? Am I going nuts? :joker:

No, it's not you at all.:wavey:

[Twosugars]

Thanks joey sometimes I think..is it me? Am I going nuts? :joker:

It's not. Just carry on being you. You are a voice of reason :love:

[Kizzy]

Thanks guys, I thought I'd made myself clear the first 3 times.

[Kizzy]

And you accuse me of baiting :laugh:

I'm not, you genuinely make me worry I'm not explaining myself properly :/

[arista]

Arcuri gives her first live TV Interview
at 7:10AM.
Only on ITV GMBHD
She is Live in Los Angeles.

[arista]

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[Cherie]

I'm not, you genuinely make me worry I'm not explaining myself properly :/

I understand your stance perfectly

[arista]

Jennifer Arcuri is Live
on itv GMBHD now

[Ammi]

#FilthyPieceOfToeRag is trending on twitter :laugh:

...just typing it into google as well...you barely get passed ‘filthy...’...and the top searches are all this little lady and her thoughts on Boris.../...which has apparently also sparked discussions of how the phrase originated ...and is it he toe or a tow rag to her.../...

[arista]

The Blonde American Live on itv GMBHD
is sticking up for Boris Johnson
Live for 30 mins

She Blames Milo.....
Making Faking news.

No Letter by Boris.
all her own fake news to Milo Yiannopoulos

Sunday Times got caught in Milo 's mess

[Ammi]

...the ‘blonde American’, I assume is Jennifer Arcuri..?...(..I’m not watching it..)..you know her name though, Arista.. because you used it previously..it’s very dismissive and disrespectful to refer to her as a ‘blonde American’, while you refer to all others by their names...

[arista]

...the ‘blonde American’, I assume is Jennifer Arcuri..?...(..I’m not watching it..)..you know her name though, Arista.. because you used it previously..it’s very dismissive and disrespectful to refer to her as a ‘blonde American’, while you refer to all others by their names...


She is getting a Full Hour on GMBHD itv
and saying no corruption with Johnson PM

2 ads taken.
While she is in Los Angeles

https://news.sky.com/story/jennifer-arcuri-refuses-to-answer-questions-on-boris-johnson-relationship-11829818

[arista]

...just typing it into google as well...you barely get passed ‘filthy...’...and the top searches are all this little lady and her thoughts on Boris.../...which has apparently also sparked discussions of how the phrase originated ...and is it he toe or a tow rag to her.../...



1180727691038904321

USA Loves her

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

Is her company one of these AI things?... hacker house? That's an odd name. Maybe her company is responsible for spamming tory buzzwords like 'make Britain great again'?

[Kazanne]

...the ‘blonde American’, I assume is Jennifer Arcuri..?...(..I’m not watching it..)..you know her name though, Arista.. because you used it previously..it’s very dismissive and disrespectful to refer to her as a ‘blonde American’, while you refer to all others by their names...

It happens a lot on here have you not seen how Boris is called a 'clown' etc, and Trump is called 'Orange' and all sorts by some except his name that is also very disrespectful imo,but nothing said:shrug: I find it quite immature and silly,I am sure arista has got the message.

[Ammi]

...that doesn’t have any bearing on my thoughts, Kaz...Boris and Donald are country leaders..and very controversial ones..their decisions impact on many people’s lives in many different ways and some, very badly...so it’s understandable that there are strong feelings about them because of despairs and frustrations.../...none of that applies to Jennifer Arcuri and that she has enough importance for her interview to be commented on but her name not used in the way that all other names were used in that post...’blonde American’ is very dismissive...

[arista]

Is her company one of these AI things?... hacker house? That's an odd name. Maybe her company is responsible for spamming tory buzzwords like 'make Britain great again'?



Many of Her Companies
are starts ups
that go on forever
no money coming in
if she got payed
for that over long GMBHD itv interview
that would help her.

[arista]

...that doesn’t have any bearing on my thoughts, Kaz...Boris and Donald are country leaders..and very controversial ones..their decisions impact on many people in many different ways and some, very badly...so it’s understandable that there are strong feelings about them because of despairs and frustrations.../...none of that applies to Jennifer Arcuri and that she has enough importance for her interview to be commented on but her name not used in the way that all other names were used in that post...’blonde American’ is very dismissive...


Yes that's what she hates
being called a blonde.

Arcuri is not liked in Business.
Start Up's are for winners
not losers like her.

[arista]

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[Cherie]

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:joker:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGRJiXrWsAAdObi?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

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Clever Remix

[The Slim Reaper]

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Clever Remix

I was just coming to post the same thing :smug:

[arista]

I was just coming to post the same thing :smug:


Its a Clever Remix
Good on Sophie Ridge
Sunday 8:30AM Live show.
SkyNewsHD

That Lady was recorded
on Friday.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Alf]

1181191780378845184Yes I see the problem. Footballers, Popstars and TV personality's get paid too much.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes I see the problem. Footballers, Popstars and TV personality's get paid too much.

A+B=Z?

[arista]

1181191780378845184




Why did New Labour not Change
The MP wages down?

[Alf]

Why did New Labour not Change
The MP wages down?Too busy lining their own and their families and their friends pockets.

[arista]

Too busy lining their own and their families and their friends pockets.


Yes Alf
New Labour
was Terrible

[The Slim Reaper]

Why did New Labour not Change
The MP wages down?

You're looking at things the wrong way. The tories have basically abandoned public sector workers during their governance, apart from themselves of course. Now they want you to believe they're interested in investing in the public sector again.

[Nicky91]

britain needs a new PM and preferably one NOT to come from brexit party, labour or tories

maybe Lib Dems :think:


and then operation clean sweep through parliament, getting rid of the old weeds in there, and making a whole new parliament

maybe then a brexit with a deal is possible

[The Slim Reaper]

britain needs a new PM and preferably one NOT to come from brexit party, labour or tories

maybe Lib Dems :think:


and then operation clean sweep through parliament, getting rid of the old weeds in there, and making a whole new parliament

maybe then a brexit with a deal is possible

Lib dems are the tories. Jo swinson voted for all the worst policies of the conservatives, and now all the tories are leaving their party where are they ending up? Lib dems.

Corbyn has been a mess on Brexit, but Id like to see him get a crack at restoring some balance and fairness to UK society.

[Cherie]

1181191780378845184

yes I've long complained about them giving themselves pay rises when civil servants pay rises were frozen, they get out of it by saying they don't award it, as its done by an independent body, but 'if we are all in it together' they should refuse payrises that are above those that other CS get, lets not forget this is MPs from all parties getting these rises

[Nicky91]

Lib dems are the tories. Jo swinson voted for all the worst policies of the conservatives, and now all the tories are leaving their party where are they ending up? Lib dems.

Corbyn has been a mess on Brexit, but Id like to see him get a crack at restoring some balance and fairness to UK society.

well as long as it isn't Trolly McTrollface Farage in power i'm happy

[The Slim Reaper]

yes I've long complained about them giving themselves pay rises when civil servants pay rises were frozen, they get out of it by saying they don't award it, as its done by an independent body, but 'if we are all in it together' they should refuse payrises that are above those that other CS get, lets not forget this is MPs from all parties getting these rises

I'm not particularly bothered about them giving themselves the pay rises, I just find it horrific what they've done to public sector workers who we all rely on more than we realise.

[The Slim Reaper]

well as long as it isn't Trolly McTrollface Farage in power i'm happy

I'll pass your opinion on to the public, Nicky. They'll get straight on it.

[Twosugars]

A+B=Z?

It's funny how some bang on about "the people" while siding up with the establishment :laugh:

[Nicky91]

I'll pass your opinion on to the public, Nicky. They'll get straight on it.

i just hate the smug look and hypocrisy of his most loyal followers The Grant Sisters, and that weirdo Piers Corbyn

with their whole ''we don't know the EU'' well you gotta look it up who the EU are then if you don't know them

''we don't trust the EU'' if you don't even know the EU you can't decide wether or not to trust them

and also those sisters being against the ''elite'' while they are granddaughters of one of the more important people in Bank of Scotland sir alistair grant


and as for Farage, well he's just a bigot who is desperate for attention all the time with his over the top shouting (i have to turn volume down a bit when we get a interview with him on tv)

[Cherie]

I'm not particularly bothered about them giving themselves the pay rises, I just find it horrific what they've done to public sector workers who we all rely on more than we realise.

I agree, but its makes it doubly bad that the sat and accepted payrises while other civil servants had theirs frozen or cut, not one didn't accept their payrise, I think Cameron refused his one year but that was it, but then he backed a payrise of 10 percent for all MPs in 2015

the good news for MPs is we are all so busy calling each other names, we don't notice when their pay goes up !

[Vicky.]

1181191780378845184

Yup, so unfair but..not surprising.

Half the MPs dont bother turning up for important votes and stuff either, but when its about yet another rise in their wages, they all manage to make it there.

If the publics wages are frozen, MPs should be too.

[arista]

You're looking at things the wrong way. The tories have basically abandoned public sector workers during their governance, apart from themselves of course. Now they want you to believe they're interested in investing in the public sector again.


2010-2015 Conservative - LibDem Co Government
2015 -2019 Conservative


Yes the Public Sector has changed.
it started under New Labour

[The Slim Reaper]

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1 in 6 Americans get food poisoning every year, as opposed to 1 in 100 of us currently protected by EU regulations.

[Cherie]

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1 in 6 Americans get food poisoning every year, as opposed to 1 in 100 of us currently protected by EU regulations.

:facepalm: seen it all now ...lower standards being touted as a positive

[The Slim Reaper]

2010-2015 Conservative - LibDem Co Government
2015 -2019 Conservative


Yes the Public Sector has changed.
it started under New Labour

How are labour to blame for a 10yr attack on public sector workers?

[The Slim Reaper]

:facepalm: seen it all now ...lower standards being touted as a positive

The US wont do a trade deal with us unless they get access to the NHS. Once they've destroyed food safety, the NHS will be next.

[Alf]

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1 in 6 Americans get food poisoning every year, as opposed to 1 in 100 of us currently protected by EU regulations.(in the voice of Homer Simpson) Mmmmmm food poisoning.

[bots]

we need to be careful on food standards. There are standards that are essential for good health which I fully endorse and there are those that are much more subjective, like the curve a banana has ... the EU has brought in plenty of those, and we don't need them, it is a waste of food.

[The Slim Reaper]

we need to be careful on food standards. There are standards that are essential for good health which I fully endorse and there are those that are much more subjective, like the curve a banana has ... the EU has brought in plenty of those, and we don't need them, it is a waste of food.

It's a myth about the bananas, peddled by an anti-eu press and politicians. Food isn't thrown away, they are just measured on a grading system.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Ammi]

...’what have the EU ever done for us...’...so reminds me of the Romans sketch in Monty Python../...Life of Brian...we got back so much more than we put in...

[Cherie]

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that should please the vegans, no one will be able to afford spaghetti bolognaise :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

that should please the vegans, no one will be able to afford spaghetti bolognaise :laugh:

The anorexic lobby will be pleased that no one will be able to afford to eat anything.

[The Slim Reaper]

...’what have the EU ever done for us...’...so reminds me of the Romans sketch in Monty Python../...Life of Brian...we got back so much more than we put in...

Apart from funding our poorest cities, giving us access to their markets tariff free, and protecting our food standards, what have the eu ever done for us.

[arista]

How are labour to blame for a 10yr attack on public sector workers?


Because its not 10 year
its much longer...............................

[Ammi]

Apart from funding our poorest cities, giving us access to their markets tariff free, and protecting our food standards, what have the eu ever done for us.

....hmmmm, it’s given us affordable flights which has meant that the lowest income families have been able to have that lovely sunshine as well..hmmmm, I’m pretty sure it might have given us Prosecco as well...(...and other fine wines and spirits at affordable prices..)...which a few of my gals, hugely appreciate...


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[Ammi]

...while we’ve still fully kept our currency, our Greenwich meantime and our individual identity...seems to have been a win/win deal to me...

[arista]

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They are Blocking the Entrance to Downing Street
Police Lock the Buggers UP

[arista]

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Mondays Times.

[Twosugars]

He warns EU? :laugh3:

[arista]

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[Beso]

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They are Blocking the Entrance to Downing Street
Police Lock the Buggers UP

Moan about parliament being blocked, then block the road so the pm can't get to work...makes sense.

[Kizzy]

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1 in 6 Americans get food poisoning every year, as opposed to 1 in 100 of us currently protected by EU regulations.

I did warn people... on this very forum but did anyone listen?...noooo.

[joeysteele]

I did warn people... on this very forum but did anyone listen?...noooo.

It's worrying indeed.

[Twosugars]

I did warn people... on this very forum but did anyone listen?...noooo.

I've said it too.
How come ""the people" are silent on this?
When they come for workers protections "the people" will be doubly screwed

[The Slim Reaper]

https://politics-punked.com/2019/10/07/brexitannia-the-british-identity-crisis/

Brexit is a bit like someone sticking two fingers up at a window and then discovering it’s a mirror.

It is an enormous act of self harm based on an insecure delusion of what Britain was, what Britain is, and what Britain should be.

There is a long-held Little Englander optical delusion of Britain parading around like something out of the encore section of Last Night of the Proms. A place called Britain that should always rule the waves. This British identity framing is how the Britain’s Conductor-in-Chief, Boris Johnson, likes to orchestrate it.

This is delusional. Britain is now a battered ship Britannia sailing against the wind across stormy waters and travelling towards an iceberg, that because of a lack of planning and poor navigation, 52% of the crew somehow decided didn’t exist.

There was a time that Britain mattered internationally and was comfortable with its direction of travel. It is a country with an incredible history and many admirable values.

The British ‘values’ of politeness, humour, endeavour, manners, creativity, multiculturalism, stoicism, civic pride, innovation, and community spirit were held in high esteem across the world. Sadly, these values appear to be getting drowned out by sound of exceptionalism draped around the Little Englander flag of patriotism.

Britain is a place that gifted the world Shakespeare, Dickens, Keats, Brunel, Newton, Shackleton, Rowling, Attenborough, Burns, Hawking, Bowie, Lennon, McCartney and many many more. This brilliantly creative outward looking confidence has now been replaced with the insular and insecure drumbeat of the Daily Mail, The Sun, Nigel Farage, Mark Francois, Katie Hopkins, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson and Tommy Robinson.

Genuinely awe inspiring secure identity and pride has been replaced by an insecure and confused identity based on ethnic nationalism and England, in particular, currently has an identity crisis.

Now, with Brexit, this identity crisis seems to be embracing an introverted irrelevance has been paradoxically embraced by an extroverted Prime Minister.

Boris Johnson was pivotal to the victory of Brexit in the 2016 referendum. His appeal is based on two things. 1) Jingoistic faux-optimism 2) Deceitfulness that, rather regrettably, many people have fallen for. This great charlatan loves to sell a Brexitannia fantasy, a remnant of Britain’s persistent empire delusion and post-imperial confusion about its proper place in the world, hanging on to non essential expensive status symbols like a nuclear deterrents while its essential public services are under funded and dismantled.

Britain, once renowned for its pragmatism, common sense and political stability has become the diametric opposite. It is now an island of wild empty rhetoric, impulsive populism and political extremism combined with a dumbing down of political discourse. Political heavyweights have been replaced by shock-jock political lightweights. Common sense has left the island.

Over the past 3 years, British politics has failed to grasp the one thing that it really needed to grasp:- what Brexit actually means. The reason nobody knows what Brexit means is because its roots stem from a 30 year psychodrama within the Tory party but without a strategic end game. Brexit is a way of deflecting from a multitude of problems facing our country – many of them caused by the Tory party themselves.

Brexit has lurched from being a loose and vague idea based around the premise of sovereignty and freedom, while remaining in the single market, towards the grotesque possibility of a crashing out of the EU without a deal – something what was never considered as a serious option back in the referendum of 2016. It’s now become the Brexit of choice by the kind of populist, demagogue empty vessels sailing in the far-right waters of British politics and the right-wing tabloids. It’s happened because an inherent lack of understanding about Brexit and an existential confusion about the identity composition of Britain itself.

Britain is now showing disturbing symptoms of a full-blown identity crisis. A previously outward-looking and globalised country is now fractured by the backlash against the very model that made Britain strong.

The roots of this backlash stem from a gradual erosion of Britain’s industrial base, disenfranchised communities and economic decline and an increase in understandable resentment. But, this has been wilfully exploited by the readiness of the Tory Party in particular, to lie and peddle obvious untruths, to place party politics over and above the national interest, and then to manipulate the narrative to create a perceived wisdom that somehow the problems within British society were somehow, the fault of foreign institutions or foreigners migrating to live and work in Britain. This con-trick has been going on for four decades.

Brexit is a huge step backwards for Britain. It is a step backwards for progressive internationalism and a step forward for regressive isolationism. British politics is now riddled with deeply provincial and introverted mindset at a time when Britain should be to be at ease with playing a significant role in outward-looking global expressionism.

Brexit has become an identity conflict in Britain. It is binary choice, pitching those who see Britain as being a place of multicultural outward inclusivity verses those who see Britain as a place of xenophobic inward parochialism. It is Danny Boyle’s London Olympics Opening Ceremony verses Last Night of the Proms. It is Remainers verses Brexiters. And like Brexit and indeed, Britain itself, it is unclear as to where the great ship Britannia is heading.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Tom4784]

Sadly, none of this will wash with the Brexiters intent on steering us into No Deal. Logic and facts have no place with someone who disregards such things in favour of blind (ignorant) faith that everything will be okay when it's obviously won't be. At the end of the day, they care more about 'winning' then the self harm they'll inflict on themselves.

[Alf]

"If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything"

George Mcfly

George wasn't a defeatest, he plucked up the courage to give Biff a clout, and win Lorraine's heart.

[Nicky91]

"If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything"

George Mcfly

George wasn't a defeatest, he plucked up the courage to give Biff a clout, and win Lorraine's heart.

''accomplish'' well was on the local radio here, they said apparently since the brexit referendum in 2016, britain has been billions poorer than before the referendum

so if this is already before you guys officially exited the EU, well cannot wait how much financial losses you have after that :laugh3: :laugh3:

[The Slim Reaper]

"If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything"

George Mcfly

George wasn't a defeatest, he plucked up the courage to give Biff a clout, and win Lorraine's heart.

The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The
frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion
says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."

While we're posting stuff with absolutely no relevance to anything, I thought I'd join in.

[arista]

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http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361864

[Withano]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1181141078428323841/ypZxAlnW?format=jpg&name=small

They are Blocking the Entrance to Downing Street
Police Lock the Buggers UP

No need. A similar amount of work will get done

[Withano]

I’ve probs shared this before

But it’s still so relevant

I’m not saying there wasn’t a democratic mandate for Brexit at the time. I’m just saying if I narrowly decided to order fish at a restaurant that was known for chicken, but said it was happy to offer fish, and so far I’ve been waiting three hours, and two chefs who promised to cook the fish had quit, and the third one is promising to deliver the fish in the next five minutes whether it’s cooked or not, or indeed still alive, and all the waiting staff have spent the last few hours arguing amongst themselves about whether I wanted battered cod, grilled salmon, jellied eels or dolphin kebabs, and if large parts of the restaurant appeared to be on fire but no-one was paying attention to it because they were all arguing about fish, I would quite like, just once, to be asked if I definitely still wanted the fish.

[Cherie]

"If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything"

George Mcfly

George wasn't a defeatest, he plucked up the courage to give Biff a clout, and win Lorraine's heart.

what are we accomplishing though, apart from getting out of bed with our nearest neighbours and jumping into bed with countries who are far larger than us and will call the tune

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/08/01/19420516-7548215-image-m-32_1570494861009.jpg
[Activist Milo Yiannopoulos (left) claimed
that Miss Arcuri (centre) had 'loudly and
proudly' displayed evidence of a romance
and said he had tried to warn her off it]


Many Years Ago Photo

[Kazanne]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/08/01/19420516-7548215-image-m-32_1570494861009.jpg
[Activist Milo Yiannopoulos (left) claimed
that Miss Arcuri (centre) had 'loudly and
proudly' displayed evidence of a romance
and said he had tried to warn her off it]


Many Years Ago Photo

They are coming out of the woodwork now :laugh::wavey:

[The Slim Reaper]

They are coming out of the woodwork now :laugh::wavey:

The affair isn't the story. It's the fact Boris was using his position and status as a way to promote a woman he was sleeping with.

[Alf]

The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The
frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion
says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."

While we're posting stuff with absolutely no relevance to anything, I thought I'd join in.Another negative story about death.

Not as positive as my Back to the Future story, was it?

I should probably quote Shawshank Redemption next, but people would probably take it the wrong way.

[arista]

The affair isn't the story. It's the fact Boris was using his position and status as a way to promote a woman he was sleeping with.

No Proof.

[Kazanne]

The affair isn't the story. It's the fact Boris was using his position and status as a way to promote a woman he was sleeping with.

There is no proof he slept with her she hasn't said he has and he has said its not true ,I just think some people really want these things to be true as they don't like him, so none of us really know.:wavey:

[joeysteele]

The affair isn't the story. It's the fact Boris was using his position and status as a way to promote a woman he was sleeping with.

Exactly.

She hasn't said and wouldn't say to back him up when he was saying he wasn't involved with her.
She refused to answer.

His track record is not the best.

However, it has to be seen how this unfurls.
It isn't going away for sure, no matter how much those who'll believe anything he says would like it to.

Especially after her refusal to deny there was relations between them.
I bet he's really pleased with her for that.

[bots]

it's up to the police to find evidence that boris did something wrong. Attempting trial by media on one of the accused is ridiculous

[joeysteele]

it's up to the police to find evidence that boris did something wrong. Attempting trial by media on one of the accused is ridiculous

That should apply to anyone where accusations are thrown around.
Oddly it doesn't when it suits however.

For me.
When one party publicly REFUSES to back the other's statement, then that rings surprising to me in the very least.

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[Tom4784]

The deal was stillborn and was designed that way, Boris doesn't want a deal, it doesn't suit the elite that are backing him. This deal was just a way for Boris to go 'Well, I tried' before he ****s us all over. It was never going to go anywhere.

Trust the Right Wing to spin lies though, it's damn near pathological at this point.

[Liberty4eva]

https://images.app.goo.gl/zaSTaVHsH3QTpZNdA

The EU doesn't respect you. They have never respected you. And they never will respect you. Listening to the remoaners is like listening to a housewife whose husband beats her trying to rationalize why she would be better off being married instead of seeking divorce. Britain needs to get out of there.

[Tom4784]

https://images.app.goo.gl/zaSTaVHsH3QTpZNdA

The EU doesn't respect you. They have never respected you. And they never will respect you. Listening to the remoaners is like listening to a housewife whose husband beats her trying to rationalize why she would be better off being married instead of seeking divorce. Britain needs to get out of there.

'The EU doesn't respect you, you should **** up the economy and screw over most of the populace in favour of a tax break for the elites so that you can become a orange mad man's bitch! That'll teach the EU!'

Stop spreading bull****.

[Beso]

Not long now anyway...

[Beso]

The queen is being pumped full of pep me up pills as wee speak ...."the will of the people must be obeyed"

[Liberty4eva]

'The EU doesn't respect you, you should **** up the economy and screw over most of the populace in favour of a tax break for the elites so that you can become a orange mad man's bitch! That'll teach the EU!'

Stop spreading bull****.

I didn't know the UK had 17.4 million "elites" seeking a tax break. :think:
How interesting.

[Scarlett.]

Boris doesn't respect you. They have never respected you. And they never will respect you. Listening to the Brexiteers is like listening to a housewife whose husband beats her trying to rationalize to herself that he is a good man who has her best intrests at hear. Britain needs to get him out of there.

Fixed it for you

[Liberty4eva]

Fixed it for you. BTW, I'm behaving like a 10 year old because I am a remoaner who is not getting what I want and that makes me do childish things.

I was able to figure that one out for myself. You didn't need to point that one out but thanks Dia for explaining yourself. :hee:

[Beso]

Fixed it for you

You missed out a t at the end of heart....completely ruined the whole thing for me...


Im away to bed in a mood now. ....THANK YOU!

[Scarlett.]

I like pee pee and poo poo

Okay then :shrug:

Only meaning this lightheartedly :p

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Tom4784]

I didn't know the UK had 17.4 million "elites" seeking a tax break. :think:
How interesting.

No, the UK just has 17.4 million gullible people who believed lies on a bus and other bits of dumb propaganda ('We have had enough of experts' anyone?) over the facts when the only people they're helping against their own interests are the elites.

By all means, keep screaming about how the EU was screwing us over while you lube up the UK for Trump. Reality is going to hit you like a goddamn truck if Boris gets his way.

[arista]

No, the UK just has 17.4 million gullible people who believed lies on a bus and other bits of dumb propaganda ('We have had enough of experts' anyone?) over the facts when the only people they're helping against their own interests are the elites.

By all means, keep screaming about how the EU was screwing us over while you lube up the UK for Trump. Reality is going to hit you like a goddamn truck if Boris gets his way.


Dezzy I never believed the the Red Bus Numbers
as Fact.
They were estimated


Experts are needed.

[Liberty4eva]

No, the UK just has 17.4 million gullible people who believed lies on a bus and other bits of dumb propaganda ('We have had enough of experts' anyone?) over the facts when the only people they're helping against their own interests are the elites.

By all means, keep screaming about how the EU was screwing us over while you lube up the UK for Trump. Reality is going to hit you like a goddamn truck if Boris gets his way.

Lies? The UK public were told by their government, in no uncertain terms, that if they voted to leave the EU that is what they would do.

You can argue that they were duped. You can argue that they were doing the bidding of the elite. Or you can argue that it's against their interests all you want. That the economy will crash. But you can't argue that the British public voted to leave. That was their choice. Being in a free country means that you have the freedom to make mistakes. Otherwise, you don't live in a free country. The only people that were truly lied to, if the referendum is ignored, were the British public.

If you do love freedom and if you love the EU this is what you should be advocating: honor the results of the EU referendum by withdrawing the UK completely from the EU. Then, once they are out, start advocating for a referendum to rejoin the EU.

[Tom4784]

Lies? The UK public were told by their government, in no uncertain terms, that if they voted to leave the EU that is what they would do.

You can argue that they were duped. You can argue that they were doing the bidding of the elite. Or you can argue that it's against their interests all you want. That the economy will crash. But you can't argue that the British public voted to leave. That was their choice. Being in a free country means that you have the freedom to make mistakes. Otherwise, you don't live in a free country. The only people that were truly lied to, if the referendum is ignored, were the British public.

If you do love freedom and if you love the EU this is what you should be advocating: honor the results of the EU referendum by withdrawing the UK completely from the EU. Then, once they are out, start advocating for a referendum to rejoin the EU.

Almost half of the people didn't vote to leave and the Leave side basically swore that they'd get a deal too. If we were to do the referendum again now, I think it would still be close but Remain would likely win.

I don't believe going back and forth on this issue will fix anything and playing the Hokey Cokey with the EU is a dumb idea. Our only real option is a compromise by leaving with a deal. Anyone that tries to make out that we should leave at the first opportunity should not be trusted to know the difference between their elbow and their arsehole. We should leave when we're ready and not a moment before. If delays are neccesary then so be it.

You're preaching to me when it's clear you don't really have the first clue of what you are talking about.

[Liberty4eva]

Almost half of the people didn't vote to leave and the Leave side basically swore that they'd get a deal too. If we were to do the referendum again now, I think it would still be close but Leave would likely win.

I don't believe going back and forth on this issue will fix anything and playing the Hokey Cokey with the EU is a dumb idea. Our only real option is a compromise by leaving with a deal. Anyone that tries to make out that we should leave at the first opportunity should not be trusted to know the difference between their elbow and their arsehole. We should leave when we're ready and not a moment before. If delays are neccesary then so be it.

You're preaching to me when it's clear you don't really have the first clue of what you are talking about.

If the UK makes it clear that they won't leave without a deal, why on earth would the EU cooperate in giving the UK a fair deal? That's negotiating 101. When you are negotiating with someone, you have to be prepared to walk away from the table otherwise they're not going to give you a good deal.

[Kizzy]

If the UK makes it clear that they won't leave without a deal, why on earth would the EU cooperate in giving the UK a fair deal? That's negotiating 101. When you are negotiating with someone, you have to be prepared to walk away from the table otherwise they're not going to give you a good deal.

Brexit isn't a used car .. why all this assumption that the other member states want to feck us over and not accept fair terms?
Who can we trust to negotiate fairly..America?

[Kazanne]

Fixed it for you

I'm sure altering people's posts is against forum rules, the lengths some people go to to force thier opinion.

[arista]

Just Confirmed
Parliament will Hold a Special Sitting
on Saturday 19th October
with or without a Deal at the EU Summit.

SkyNewsHD All Out Politics Live

[Ammi]

...oh I’ll be over in that Europe place on the 19th October...the U.K. might not let me back in again then...?...my Brexit movement...

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

Why is the promise broken? ....we are still in negotiations, it isn't over. Everything he said is as valid today as it was then.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1181562373037023235/_lP-kgiM?format=jpg&name=small
Boris 'Private Prosecutor' Liable to Pay Over £100,000 in Costs
Marcus J. Ball.


I think Twosugars
crowd funded this fool.

[Nicky91]

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yes Boris, get brexit done with now, and focus on the more important problems in britain

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Beso]

Almost half of the people didn't vote to leave and the Leave side basically swore that they'd get a deal too. If we were to do the referendum again now, I think it would still be close but Leave would likely win.

I don't believe going back and forth on this issue will fix anything and playing the Hokey Cokey with the EU is a dumb idea. Our only real option is a compromise by leaving with a deal. Anyone that tries to make out that we should leave at the first opportunity should not be trusted to know the difference between their elbow and their arsehole. We should leave when we're ready and not a moment before. If delays are neccesary then so be it.

You're preaching to me when it's clear you don't really have the first clue of what you are talking about.


Sadly I think our days of describing the UK citizens and the UK as a whole as "we" are long gone thanks to remains insistence on continuing to divide the country.

[Alf]

1181787647536226304The management claim it was down to leaving the EU do they? How fortunate for them that it wasn't their fault.

What was the reason for companies going into administration before "Brexit" was even a word?

[Toy Soldier]

Sadly I think our days of describing the UK citizens and the UK as a whole as "we" are long gone thanks to remains insistence on continuing to divide the country.None of this has caused a divide though has it... It's just shone a spotlight on a divide that was clearly already there. We just spent a long time pretending otherwise.

[Tom4784]

If the UK makes it clear that they won't leave without a deal, why on earth would the EU cooperate in giving the UK a fair deal? That's negotiating 101. When you are negotiating with someone, you have to be prepared to walk away from the table otherwise they're not going to give you a good deal.

'Yeah, we'll **** over our own economy and everyone who isn't part of the elite! That'll show the EU!'

You are speaking utter insanity.

[Beso]

None of this has caused a divide though has it... It's just shone a spotlight on a divide that was clearly already there. We just spent a long time pretending otherwise.

That's not how I saw things.. we were all united after the bombing in manchester and other terror attacks in london.

[Tom4784]

Sadly I think our days of describing the UK citizens and the UK as a whole as "we" are long gone thanks to remains insistence on continuing to divide the country.

I'd say it's more to do with Leave's insistence to commit a murder suicide on the country but whatever helps you live with your decisions that you can't take back, I guess.

Can't expect much from a side who was easily led by a lie on the side of a bus.

[Beso]

I'd say it's more to do with Leave's insistence to commit a murder suicide on the country but whatever helps you live with your decisions that you can't take back, I guess.

Can't expect much from a side who was easily led by a lie on the side of a bus.


Like most people I know. .the bus meant nothing...

The bus just seems to be the new bashing tool from bitter losers fed up with using the it's the immigrants coming in line.....

[Tom4784]

The management claim it was down to leaving the EU do they? How fortunate for them that it wasn't their fault.

What was the reason for companies going into administration before "Brexit" was even a word?

'Companies going into administration happened before Brexit! I'm going to disregard the financial chaos this debacle has already caused and will cause when it actually ****ing happens and make out that companies that are collapsing are just using Brexit as an excuse because facts and logic are nothing compared to my faith that everything will be okay despite all the evidence to the contrary!'

Leavers are on a ****ing crazy train and they want to drive us all off the tracks.

[Kazanne]

Sadly I think our days of describing the UK citizens and the UK as a whole as "we" are long gone thanks to remains insistence on continuing to divide the country.

The end of the world is nigh Parmy :hehe:

[Beso]

What was it the mayor of Manchester said..."they will never divide us....he was correct that those terrorists wouldn't....but these new political terrorists are and still are.

[Tom4784]

Like most people I know. .the bus meant nothing...

The bus just seems to be the new bashing tool from bitter losers fed up with using the it's the immigrants coming in line.....

Aaand we reach the truth of the matter. Leavers don't care about the country or the harm they'll inflict and others and themselves. It's all about 'winning' and nothing more. It's pathetic. This isn't a ****ing game, Parm. The feeling of 'winning' isn't going to make Leavers feel better when they face the reality of their decisions.

The Leave campaign was a joke and people voted for lies based on blind faith despite evidence to the contrary. If I'm wrong try arguing against it but I won't hold my breath.

[Tom4784]

What was it the mayor of Manchester said..."they will never divide us....he was correct that those terrorists wouldn't....but these new political terrorists are and still are.

'If you think differently to me, you're a terrorist because I lack the functions to argue with you properly so you're a terrorist now. Democracy should only be a thing when it suits me!

And Leavers have the audacity to preach that this is about freedom when they say **** like that. Can't expect much from people who believe in fairy tales over facts, I suppose.

[Toy Soldier]

That's not how I saw things.. we were all united after the bombing in manchester and other terror attacks in london.The Manchester bombing was almost a full year AFTER the Brexit vote, Parm, and the Remainer/Brexiteer divide was very much already in full swing.

Yes people are capable of coming together to support something good / condemn something as horrendous as an attack like that, that would still be the case if god forbid another attack like that happened tomorrow, but it doesn't mean there wasn't a deep-rooted divide in general public opinion LONG before Brexit. Or rather, it has always been there.

[Beso]

Aaand we reach the truth of the matter. Leavers don't care about the country or the harm they'll inflict and others and themselves. It's all about 'winning' and nothing more. It's pathetic. This isn't a ****ing game, Parm. The feeling of 'winning' isn't going to make Leavers feel better when they face the reality of their decisions.

The Leave campaign was a joke and people voted for lies based on blind faith despite evidence to the contrary. If I'm wrong try arguing against it but I won't hold my breath.

If a joke of a campaign won...it doesn't say too much about the opposing campaign.

A campaign ran and supported by clones...unfortunately just not enough clones to win.

[Beso]

'If you think differently to me, you're a terrorist because I lack the functions to argue with you properly so you're a terrorist now. Democracy should only be a thing when it suits me!

And Leavers have the audacity to preach that this is about freedom when they say **** like that. Can't expect much from people who believe in fairy tales over facts, I suppose.



You are misquoting me pal...


and you think I want to argue. ..I don't. .what's the bloody point..we need to unite not separate with petty and completely baseless arguments..

[Tom4784]

If a joke of a campaign won...it doesn't say too much about the opposing campaign.

A campaign ran and supported by clones...unfortunately just not enough clones to win.

And the lack of awareness continues, you're literally just proving what I said right, this is just about a sense of victory for you and nothing more. Brexit isn't a ****ing sport, you aren't going to get nowhere with blind faith in your 'team'.

[Beso]

The Manchester bombing was almost a full year AFTER the Brexit vote, Parm, and the Remainer/Brexiteer divide was very much already in full swing.

Yes people are capable of coming together to support something good / condemn something as horrendous as an attack like that, that would still be the case if god forbid another attack like that happened tomorrow, but it doesn't mean there wasn't a deep-rooted divide in general public opinion LONG before Brexit. Or rather, it has always been there.


Fair enough, but I didn't see or experience it..

[Beso]

And the lack of awareness continues, you're literally just proving what I said right, this is just about a sense of victory for you and nothing more.

You may heep your angst and bitterness at losing on others rather than the hapless remain campaign if you must to make yourself feel better...but you still lost, and it won't effect me one bit if you want to keep using the Leave campaign and the supposed fools that voted for leave to make you feel a bit better if you want..but argue...no..I won't be doing that with you.

[Tom4784]

You are misquoting me pal...


and you think I want to argue. ..I don't. .what's the bloody point..we need to unite not separate with petty and completely baseless arguments..

I'm saying what you really mean. How can you pretend to be all for unity when you're saying that remainers are basically political terrorists? You don't want to unite anyone, you want to silence the opposition and get them to fall in line with what you want. A call for unity is a shallow play when what you offer is one-sided and you're already planning to blame things on the other side.

[Tom4784]

You may heep your angst and bitterness at losing on others rather than the hapless remain campaign if you must to make yourself feel better...but you still lost, and it won't effect me one bit if you want to keep using the Leave campaign and the supposed fools that voted for leave to make you feel a bit better if you want..but argue...no..I won't be doing that with you.

Still fixating on winning and going 'nar nar nar, you lost, we won!' Are we?

How about you start focusing on the three years that followed 2016 and that fallout from it?

[Beso]

I'm saying what you really mean. How can you pretend to be all for unity when you're saying that remainers are basically political terrorists? You don't want to unite anyone, you want to silence the opposition and get them to fall in line with what you want. A call for unity is a shallow play when what you offer is one-sided and you're already planning to blame things on the other side.



And like clockwork you turn on the mystic meg routine..how boring.:wavey:

[Beso]

Still fixating on winning and going 'nar nar nar, you lost, we won!' Are we?

How about you start focusing on the three years that followed 2016 and that fallout from it?

Nar nar you lost sounds a hell of a lot like boo hoo I lost to me.:shrug:

[Tom4784]

And like clockwork you turn on the mystic meg routine..how boring.:wavey:

If you're trying to duck out of a losing argument without losing face, please come up with a response that actually fits the context. Calling me Mystic Meg for pointing out a empty call for unity makes no sense.

Nar nar you lost sounds a hell of a lot like boo hoo I lost to me.:shrug:

Every time you respond, you prove me right.

[Beso]

If you're trying to duck out of a losing argument without losing face, please come up with a response that actually fits the context. Calling me Mystic Meg for pointing out a empty call for unity makes no sense.



Every time you respond, you prove me right.

Ive told you, I ain't arguing with you...you have very nasty undertones in your posts and it's pointless even trying as you seem to think you can read my mind. .:wavey:


Well im sorry!...you can't control me like labour attempt to control it's supporters...I have a mind of my own..

[The Slim Reaper]

The contrast here should be stark to anyone who claims to have an open mind; all leavers have is "you lost, deal with it", and here's another xenophobic meme with the German chancellor on it. Whereas all the evidence on the other side should make anyone pause for thought.

The NHS is against brexit
The Union for doctors is against brexit
Nursing and midwifery council is against brexit
Economic experts agree Brexit will be bad for us, and a no deal would be catastrophic
The government's own yellow hammer report explained how bad a no deal will be for us

I could go on and on, but if the people that care for your families when they have an accident or are sick can't convince you, then what difference will more evidence do?

[Tom4784]

The contrast here should be stark to anyone who claims to have an open mind; all leavers have is "you lost, deal with it", and here's another xenophobic meme with the German chancellor on it. Whereas all the evidence on the other side should make anyone pause for thought.

The NHS is against brexit
The Union for doctors is against brexit
Nursing and midwifery council is against brexit
Economic experts agree Brexit will be bad for us, and a no deal would be catastrophic
The government's own yellow hammer report explained how bad a no deal will be for us

I could go on and on, but if the people that care for your families when they have an accident or are sick can't convince you, then what difference will more evidence do?

No evidence will work when Leavers are convinced by their own blind faith that they are right and everyone else is wrong. It's all about winning for them and when the reality of brexit finally hits, they'll blame everyone but themselves for demanding it.

[arista]

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[Alf]

The contrast here should be stark to anyone who claims to have an open mind; all leavers have is "you lost, deal with it", and here's another xenophobic meme with the German chancellor on it. Whereas all the evidence on the other side should make anyone pause for thought.

The NHS is against brexit
The Union for doctors is against brexit
Nursing and midwifery council is against brexit
Economic experts agree Brexit will be bad for us, and a no deal would be catastrophic
The government's own yellow hammer report explained how bad a no deal will be for us

I could go on and on, but if the people that care for your families when they have an accident or are sick can't convince you, then what difference will more evidence do?Maybe we should stop letting people have a vote and let the NHS, the Unison of doctors and the nursing and midwifery Council make all our decisions for us.

You dig it?

[Beso]

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Urghhh..he even looks dodgy...horrible man.

[Kazanne]

Well this is from Nigel Farage today 'Here in Brussels, new Europarl President David Sassoli confirms a meeting with John Bercow in which they agreed to work to prevent a clean break Brexit.
What right does the Speaker have to do this? Disgraceful!' No wonder we are still in limbo 3 years on

[Tom4784]

Maybe would should stop letting people have a vote and let the NHS, the Unison of doctors and the nursing and midwifery Council make all our decisions for us.

You dig it?

'Having an opinion I dislike is akin to taking my vote away!'

Leaver logic.

[Kazanne]

Urghhh..he even looks dodgy...horrible man.

Steptoe reincarnated Parmy.

[The Slim Reaper]

No evidence will work when Leavers are convinced by their own blind faith that they are right and everyone else is wrong. It's all about winning for them and when the reality of brexit finally hits, they'll blame everyone but themselves for demanding it.

I get that, and I can see why the anti-intellectual campaign based on lies, would think the main thing is winning and rubbing it in peoples faces, but to have no empathy for an elderly parent or grandparent, a child with asthma or a different ongoing health issue is just crazy to me.

All the time whilst people in northern towns and cities felt the full wrath of the rights callousness towards them with Thatchers "managed decline" of huge swaths of the north, then 10yrs of more cruelness has convinced them that an etonian and bullingdon club cabal are not the establishment, and they are now fighting for the people they've continually voted to inflict pain upon.

[The Slim Reaper]

Maybe we should stop letting people have a vote and let the NHS, the Unison of doctors and the nursing and midwifery Council make all our decisions for us.

You dig it?

Again, you have nothing to suggest why brexit is good, just more "we won, you lost"

They say a key indicator of intelligence is being able to change your mind once you have more evidence, and brexit shows this to be truth everyday.

[Tom4784]

I get that, and I can see why the anti-intellectual campaign based on lies, would think the main thing is winning and rubbing it in peoples faces, but to have no empathy for an elderly parent or grandparent, a child with asthma or a different ongoing health issue is just crazy to me.

All the time whilst people in northern towns and cities felt the full wrath of the rights callousness towards them with Thatchers "managed decline" of huge swaths of the north, then 10yrs of more cruelness has convinced them that an etonian and bullingdon club cabal are not the establishment, and they are now fighting for the people they've continually voted to inflict pain upon.

Leavers are screwing over their own children with nary a care in the world, they don't have the empathy to care for strangers or people outside of their own circumstances.

People never like it when I say it but the voting public as a whole are dumb, tell them a pretty fairy tale and they'll believe it fully over a truth they don't want to accept. Adhere to the 'Rule, Britannia' schtick and you'll get people who have deluded themselves about the UK's position in the world cheering on our own destruction in the hopes it will trigger another golden age when it'll just destroy the few things that still put the Great in Britain.

If we lose the NHS over this, there will be no forgiveness for leavers, there will be no unification. It'll only ensure we're ripped apart permanently. The NHS is the main issue that decides who I vote for and it's why I have nothing but loathing for leavers that are ignoring the red flags because it doesn't suit them to acknowledge reality. The survival of the NHS is all that matters to me and a no deal brexit is the greatest threat to the NHS it's ever faced. It's something that Farage will welcome given that he is opposed to the NHS but his cult ignores that just to focus on the crowd pleasing distraction tactics he so often uses.

[Beso]

Steptoe reincarnated Parmy.

Steptoe had a personality.:blush:

[Alf]

Again, you have nothing to suggest why brexit is good, just more "we won, you lost"

They say a key indicator of intelligence is being able to change your mind once you have more evidence, and brexit shows this to be truth everyday.Hurry up and change your mind then. Get back onside with the majority, pronto.

[Tom4784]

Hurry up and change your mind then. Get back onside with the majority pronto.

'I voted to leave based on nothing, screw your facts and get on board with what I'm saying!'

[Beso]

I don't think another terrorist attack would unite us at all if people who voted remain loathe and detest the leavers as much as dezzy does.

[Alf]

In Brussels, the new President, Sassoli, admits in chamber that he has bypassed the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Government and is now in direct discussions with Bercow about Brexit negotiations.

According to Richard Tice.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

In Brussels, the new President, Sassoli, admits in chamber that he has bypassed the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Government and is now in direct discussions with Bercow about Brexit negotiations.

According to Richard Tice.

The same Richard Tice who once said that leaving without a deal would be illegal?

[Alf]

The same Richard Tice who once said that leaving without a deal would be illegal?I agree, he's probably making it sound more dramatic than what it is.

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't think another terrorist attack would unite us at all if people who voted remain loathe and detest the leavers as much as dezzy does.

Pretty sure the thread isn't about Dezzy.

[Beso]

In Brussels, the new President, Sassoli, admits in chamber that he has bypassed the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Government and is now in direct discussions with Bercow about Brexit negotiations.

According to Richard Tice.



Which will.probably end up with us staying in the EU. ..thus forcing the Lisbon treaty that labour secretly signed in 2007 upon us....goodbye great Britain.:wavey:

[Beso]

Pretty sure the thread isn't about Dezzy.

You are correct...but he is a staunch remainer who detests leavers so I am using him as a yard stick for judging how united the UK can become in the future

[The Slim Reaper]

You are correct...but he is a staunch remainer who detests leavers so I am using him as a yard stick for judging how united the UK can become in the future

For the second time, the thread isn't about Dezzy. You got away with one of the most despicable posts I've seen on here the other night. You should probably lay low for a few days.

[The Slim Reaper]

Anyway, back to the thread

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[Alf]

Look at Femi's eyes and how fast is he talking? What's he on?

Speeding off his tits.

[Alf]

Anyway, back to the thread

1181666325988610051It's Spud from Trainspotting.

[The Slim Reaper]

It's Spud from Trainspotting.

Did you actually watch though? Makes some interesting points about a post brexit Britain.

[Alf]

Did you actually watch though? Makes some interesting points about a post brexit Britain.Too right I watched, he's comedy Gold. You think I'd miss out on that do ya?

[The Slim Reaper]

Too right I watched, he's comedy Gold. You think I'd miss out on that do ya?

He's no McIntyre, but I feel ya.

[Nicky91]

Which will.probably end up with us staying in the EU. ..thus forcing the Lisbon treaty that labour secretly signed in 2007 upon us....goodbye great Britain.:wavey:

well better do things right then this time in the EU, man up and be mature in EU summits, time for Britain to think selflessly and also join in with our Green new deal, a greener better europe

that is, if you guys know things better than our EU leaders

[Beso]

For the second time, the thread isn't about Dezzy. You got away with one of the most despicable posts I've seen on here the other night. You should probably lay low for a few days.

I have no idea what you mean...many have tried in the past to paint me a particular way in the past to no avail..may I just add this thread isn't about me either.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Alf]

What's wrong with Whiteness?

[The Slim Reaper]

What's wrong with Whiteness?

Nothing. Watch the vid. The Kid at 2.45 will always be a highlight.

[Alf]

Nothing. Watch the vid. The Kid at 2.45 will always be a highlight.That's MTVN, he'll infract you when he sees this.

[The Slim Reaper]

That's MTVN, he'll infarct you when he sees this.

I think he's a gloucester boy, so he'll sound more like Fred west than a young Danny Dyer!

[arista]

What's wrong with Whiteness?


Nothing
its the Left Wingers
playing with words

[Cherie]

I think he's a gloucester boy, so he'll sound more like Fred west than a young Danny Dyer!

:laugh:

[Kazanne]

Steptoe had a personality.:blush:

:laugh: and a horse

[arista]

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