Boris has asked the Queen to suspend Parliment, The Queen has now approved

[Denver]

So he can focus on Brexit without Corbyns childish tactics

[Liam-]

Parliament*

But hooray, let’s celebrate undemocratic silencing of opposition

[Kizzy]

Undemocratic. ..that is all.

[Mitchell]

Parliament*

But hooray, let’s celebrate undemocratic silencing of opposition

Who doesn’t love a good dictatorship

[Liam-]

Who doesn’t love a good dictatorship

Trump, Putin, Jong Un and Johnson, dictator top trumps.

[AnnieK]

Disgraceful :mad:

[Mitchell]

Trump, Putin, Jong Un and Johnson, dictator top trumps.

Funny how people are so against Putin etc, yet Johnson pulls a stunt like this and is a hero...

[Black Dagger]

Joke of a man.

[Scarlett.]

He's pulled the Queen into this whole mess too, knowing that whatever she choses its going to make her unpopular

[Denver]

Funny how people are so against Putin etc, yet Johnson pulls a stunt like this and is a hero...

Nobody every mentions the people who lap up Corbyns hate for jews and close friendships with terrorists

[Scarlett.]

I love how in a thread about Boris Johnson trying to suspend parliament, it starts to become about Jeremy ****in Corbyn

[Denver]

I love how in a thread about Boris Johnson trying to suspend parliament, it starts to become about Jeremy ****in Corbyn

because its double standards, you cant slag off one then lap up the other

[Liam-]

Nobody every mentions the people who lap up Corbyns hate for jews and close friendships with terrorists

Nobody ever? You clearly haven’t been in serious debates the past few months, that false narrative was constantly thrown around, but again, it’s not anywhere near being relevant to what your thread is about

[Scarlett.]

because its double standards, you cant slag off one then lap up the other

No one mentions Corbyn really apart from his haters. Boris Johnson is the Prime Minister, he is the one in power and under the most scrutiny, he's the one trying to postpone democracy just to get his way.

[Denver]

Corbyn would be the much worse prime minister though, the jews will be sidelined and terrorists allowed to roam the street with out punishment

[Denver]

And the Queen knew months ago she would be asked to suspend parliament

[arista]

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[Liam-]

Lmao, it’s okay for Johnson to **** on actual democracy by trying to silence his opposition, because you believe some stories right wing rags have told you about Corbyn

[Twosugars]

Corbyn would be the much worse prime minister though, the jews will be sidelined and terrorists allowed to roam the street with out punishment

Look mate, why you create a thread if you can't stick to its topic?

Go and create one about corbyn and you can rant there

[Denver]

Lmao, it’s okay for Johnson to **** on actual democracy by trying to silence his opposition, because you believe some stories right wing rags have told you about Corbyn

But the other parties have all but said they want to divide the nation which will destroy the country

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1166654155324317698/BwZoUYNd?format=jpg&name=small

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm ashamed for Liverpool when it's supporters are pushing tory/murdoch propaganda.

Shankly would be turning in his ****ing grave at this BS

[arista]

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[arista]

From twitter

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDC9RugXYAALP4p?format=jpg&name=360x360


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[Shaun]

It didn't work well for Charles I, your Maj, so watch your step. x

[Denver]

I'm ashamed for Liverpool when it's supporters are pushing tory/murdoch propaganda.

Shankly would be turning in his ****ing grave at this BS

if the Opposition parties actually had their **** together and respected what the public voted instead of only caring about what they want then things could be different

[Marsh.]

Corbyn would be the much worse prime minister though, the jews will be sidelined and terrorists allowed to roam the street with out punishment

If your only defence of the current Prime Minister is that a hypothetical other person maybe could be might be worse, you've lost the defence.

[The Slim Reaper]

if the Opposition parties actually had their **** together and respected what the public voted instead of only caring about what they want then things could be different

Here's the thing, no one voted for a no deal. Farage campaigned to leave with a deal, all the prominent tories spoke about how we'd be in the driving seat to make new and even better deals. Shutting down parliament is the antithesis of democracy.

You can be pro leave, but anti no-deal which everyone says is the worst of all outcomes for us,

When you just verbatim the crap about the Corbyn stuff, it doesn't reflect well on you. The Palestinians are living under the same apartheid state that the South Africans did, supporting their rights does not make you an anti-semite. Mandela was regarded as a terrorist at one time, would anyone now be accused of being a terrorist sympathiser if they supported him?

[Denver]

Here's the thing, no one voted for a no deal. Farage campaigned to leave with a deal, all the prominent tories spoke about how we'd be in the driving seat to make new and even better deals. Shutting down parliament is the antithesis of democracy.

You can be pro leave, but anti no-deal which everyone says is the worst of all outcomes for us,

When you just verbatim the crap about the Corbyn stuff, it doesn't reflect well on you. The Palestinians are living under the same apartheid state that the South Africans did, supporting their rights does not make you an anti-semite. Mandela was regarded as a terrorist at one time, would anyone now be accused of being a terrorist sympathiser if they supported him?

We wouldnt be in a no deal situation if people wouldnt vote down each deals because they want to stay and not leave

[RileyH]

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[arista]

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[AnnieK]

I honestly can't understand why younger people would be for leaving without a deal. It's them it will have the most impact on. Its hard enough to get on the property ladder now but when we are in the grips of another very hard recession, with record unemployment, job shortages etc etc it will be nigh on impossible. I am trying really hard to see what benefits leaving with no deal with bring.......and short term I see none.......long term, I see even less.

[arista]

I honestly can't understand why younger people would be for leaving without a deal. It's them it will have the most impact on. Its hard enough to get on the property ladder now but when we are in the grips of another very hard recession, with record unemployment, job shortages etc etc it will be nigh on impossible. I am trying really hard to see what benefits leaving with no deal with bring.......and short term I see none.......long term, I see even less.

For Some Youngers
they have nothing to lose

[The Slim Reaper]

For Some Youngers
they have nothing to lose

Because of tory Austerity. Can you not see how the system was manipulated to make people more willing to try anything, because it can't be worse than what it's own government was doing to hurt it's own people. That's how you make people susceptible to the lying conmen.

[The Slim Reaper]

We wouldnt be in a no deal situation if people wouldnt vote down each deals because they want to stay and not leave

There is no deal we can get that's better than what we already have, so you're asking people to vote to make our country worse off, and that's with a deal. All of your ire should be against the people that lied and told you that the day after the referendum, the Germans would come begging, or the people that told you that we'd be able to decide what deals we wanted and which ones we didn't.

You're angry at the people trying to protect you from the people who lied to you, and that's ****ing ridiculous.

[Scarlett.]

We have got such a cushy deal IN the EU, cause the EU foolishly bent over backwards many times to try and keep the UK happy.

[smudgie]

I honestly can't understand why younger people would be for leaving without a deal. It's them it will have the most impact on. Its hard enough to get on the property ladder now but when we are in the grips of another very hard recession, with record unemployment, job shortages etc etc it will be nigh on impossible. I am trying really hard to see what benefits leaving with no deal with bring.......and short term I see none.......long term, I see even less.

I am hoping that house prices will drop.
Might be the glimmer of hope in all this ruddy mess.:shrug:

[AnnieK]

I am hoping that house prices will drop.
Might be the glimmer of hope in all this ruddy mess.:shrug:

House prices probably will but that will throw a lot of people back into a negative equity cycle.....unemployment will rise so there will not be many people in a position to buy as the banks will be very nervous of lending money again - people with big mortgages will not be able to sell and downsize as they will owe more than the house is worth etc etc....

[bots]

it's honestly not worth getting excited about. Whatever happens, we will deal with it as we always have

My concern is on the opportunity for groups to exploit the runup to the 31st and the safety of MP's I think is a critical concern

[Mystic Mock]

Trump, Putin, Jong Un and Johnson, dictator top trumps.

They're top leaders.:hehe:

[Mystic Mock]

But the other parties have all but said they want to divide the nation which will destroy the country

Thanks to David Cameron this country will be divided on whatever decisions get made going forward, and that is including with the Tory party.

[arista]

it's honestly not worth getting excited about. Whatever happens, we will deal with it as we always have

My concern is on the opportunity for groups to exploit the runup to the 31st and the safety of MP's I think is a critical concern


Yes Labour MP Clive Lewis said he will not leave Parliament...............



Drag the Bugger out with Police .................

[arista]

Thanks to David Cameron this country will be divided on whatever decisions get made going forward, and that is including with the Tory party.


Sure Dave took a Gamble
made big errors
like bringing in the Former
USA President
told the fool what to say.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Twosugars]

Sure Dave took a Gamble
made big errors
like bringing in the Former
USA President
told the fool what to say.

Calling Obama a fool and defending trump. You've sank low mate

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDDMtNeXYAASnE4?format=jpg&name=small
Jacob has gone UP
to Scotland to officially get the Queen to sign it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes Labour MP Clive Lewis said he will not leave Parliament...............



Drag the Bugger out with Police .................

I think, or at least I hope he meant violent far right thugs with a history of killings and planned killings of democratically elected politicians trying to protect people like you from yourself.

[The Slim Reaper]

Calling Obama a fool and defending trump. You've sank low mate

He jumped the shark a while ago. It's about winning to these folks, not consequences.

[Mystic Mock]

We wouldnt be in a no deal situation if people wouldnt vote down each deals because they want to stay and not leave

Tbf in a vote where the majority pulled in 51.8% and obviously only narrowly won a vote that is a very serious topic, of course it's gonna be hard to get the outcome that you want if you're in the majority because it's not Big Brother where it's an entertainment show where you can win with 50.01% of the vote, this country will be messing with people's jobs, businesses could possibly pull out of the country, we will also have to join new trade deals with other countries, and of course raise prices in shops on what we can and can't buy because our pound is weakening due to Brexit (which the stats don't lie) so of course there will be a lot of people trying to stop Brexit from happening within Parliament.

[arista]

I think, or at least I hope he meant violent far right thugs with a history of killings and planned killings of democratically elected politicians trying to protect people like you from yourself.


I am not far right


It would be great
to have Labour MP Clive Lewis Dragged of Parliament
Sept 14th
out with 4 Policeman.

[bots]

I think, or at least I hope he meant violent far right thugs with a history of killings and planned killings of democratically elected politicians trying to protect people like you from yourself.

i did indeed mean that, but i also think we will be vulnerable to anarchists and all sorts. This will be the time where they all take advantage

[The Slim Reaper]

I am not far right


It would be great
to have Labour MP Clive Lewis Dragged of Parliament
Sept 14th
out with 4 Policeman.

I didn't say you were.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Twosugars]

I am not far right


It would be great
to have Labour MP Clive Lewis Dragged of Parliament
Sept 14th
out with 4 Policeman.

No, you're just enabling them...

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDDP3lTXoAATytL?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

No, you're just enabling them...


No life is to short/

[UserSince2005]

The EU must be ****ting itself lol

[Scarlett.]

The EU must be ****ting itself lol

Oh yeah they're terrified of losing the pain in the ass that is the UK, positively petrified.

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDECjKxXUAAlfrC?format=png&name=small

Hahahahahahahahahaha - EU wankers must be ****ting themselves

[UserSince2005]

Oh yeah they're terrified of losing the pain in the ass that is the UK, positively petrified.

Germany is in heavs, finally they will have control of the block.

[smudgie]

The Queen has approved.

[smudgie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDECjKxXUAAlfrC?format=png&name=small

Hahahahahahahahahaha - EU wankers must be ****ting themselves

The reality is that we have had to wait for meds and shop around for a good few years, way before any Brexit talk.
To do with quotas.
My script had 18 items to be picked up today.
Only a few owing notes that will be sorted shortly.:shrug:

[Cherie]

The reality is that we have had to wait for meds and shop around for a good few years, way before any Brexit talk.
To do with quotas.
My script had 18 items to be picked up today.
Only a few owing notes that will be sorted shortly.:shrug:

yes I cant see how Brexit would have anything to do with that given it hasn't happened yet

[Cherie]

I am hoping that house prices will drop.
Might be the glimmer of hope in all this ruddy mess.:shrug:

house prices dropping wont be any good if people have no jobs though Smudge?

[bots]

brexit no deal or otherwise is going to be challenging .... but the fear aspect is being amplified. Not everything will run smoothing, but we will adjust

[smudgie]

house prices dropping wont be any good if people have no jobs though Smudge?

I didn’t really think it through very well Cherie.:blush:

[Cherie]

brexit no deal or otherwise is going to be challenging .... but the fear aspect is being amplified. Not everything will run smoothing, but we will adjust

I didn’t really think it through very well Cherie.:blush:

In all honesty I am struggling to care, as bad as it might be at least we might have a resolution, it's dragged on for so long, I cant remember a time before Brexit chat, I thought for a while there was a good chance of getting a 2nd ref with a more decisive result, but none of the politicians had to bottle to agree it, so here we are.

[smudgie]

In all honesty I am struggling to care, as bad as it might be at least we might have a resolution, it's dragged on for so long, I cant remember a time before Brexit chat, I thought for a while there was a good chance of getting a 2nd ref with a more decisive result, but none of the politicians had to bottle to agree it, so here we are.

Aye, the whole sorry mess needs sorting as quick as possible.
Whichever way it goes, let’s move on.

[Liam-]

Oh Lizzie

[Twosugars]

The EU must be ****ting itself lol

:laugh3:

EU economy is 9 times bigger

Oh the delusions

[Oliver_W]

How is a move like this to enact the referendum result "undemocratic", while stopping Brexit from happening would not be undemocratic?

[Twosugars]

Aye, the whole sorry mess needs sorting as quick as possible.
Whichever way it goes, let’s move on.

Where to? Towing the country into the ocean?

It has only begun. Now the clown will be back asking EU for trade agreement

[Twosugars]

How is a move like this to enact the referendum result "undemocratic", while stopping Brexit from happening would not be undemocratic?

Bc the referendum wasnt about no deal?

[Oliver_W]

Bc the referendum wasnt about no deal?

It was "in" or "out". No deal is included in "out".

[arista]

brexit no deal or otherwise is going to be challenging .... but the fear aspect is being amplified. Not everything will run smoothing, but we will adjust


Yes We Will.

[Beso]

There is no deal we can get that's better than what we already have, so you're asking people to vote to make our country worse off, and that's with a deal. All of your ire should be against the people that lied and told you that the day after the referendum, the Germans would come begging, or the people that told you that we'd be able to decide what deals we wanted and which ones we didn't.

You're angry at the people trying to protect you from the people who lied to you, and that's ****ing ridiculous.

But the germans will come running to make fresh deals with us once we exit..

[Liam-]

How is a move like this to enact the referendum result "undemocratic", while stopping Brexit from happening would not be undemocratic?

Trying to stop a no deal Brexit isn’t undemocratic, using power to silence your opposition is however

[Beso]

Trying to stop a no deal Brexit isn’t undemocratic, using power to silence your opposition is however

It's for the common good so can be excused

[arista]

Owen Jones Live on SkyNewsHD
now


Via Skype Camera


He wants a General Election?


No rush Owen
Get Brexit done , first.


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[UserSince2005]

Eu going to give in to all our demands now me thinks.

Good move boris.

But I say tell them its too little too late and too **** off when they come running.

[Oliver_W]

Oh hang on, it's only for a few weeks! The way people on twitter were whinging you'd think it wsd til November...

[Twosugars]

It was "in" or "out". No deal is included in "out".

It's not bc they promised a deal

How ****ing far you want to stretch this pathetic 1.9 majority?

You lot broke it and you own it

[Mitchell]

Tory *****

[arista]

It's not bc they promised a deal

How ****ing far you want to stretch this pathetic 1.9 majority?

You lot broke it and you own it



We will be OK
lets leave on time

[arista]

Tory *****


They are in Power
Next Election Officially 2022
or maybe after we leave the EU?

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDEMaUvW4AAvOcS?format=jpg&name=small


Owen Jones Tweet

[bots]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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Tasty Ice Cream

[Glenn.]

Keep soldiering on Boris!

[bots]

Ruth Davidson is going to quit

[arista]

Ruth Davidson is going to quit



Thats OK
The Media saying she will stand down tomorrow

[Oliver_W]

Thats OK
The Media saying she will stand down tomorrow

It is a shame though, she always seemed a lot more personable and lively than Sturgeon.

[arista]

It is a shame though, she always seemed a lot more personable and lively than Sturgeon.


Sure
but if she can not back the PM
she can piss off

[Liam-]

Sure
but if she can not back the PM
she can piss off

That sounds a bit like dictatorship Arista

[Alf]

I am not far right


It would be great
to have Labour MP Clive Lewis Dragged of Parliament
Sept 14th
out with 4 Policeman.Anybody who doesn't agree with the Marxist are far-right, just embrace it and laugh at them. Trust me, they hate laughter.

[arista]

That sounds a bit like dictatorship Arista



Its the Same in the Labour Party
loads left Corbyn
even part of Change UK for a little while.

[Liam-]

Its the Same in the Labour Party
loads left Corbyn
even part of Change UK for a little while.

That’s different from what you said though, you said if she can’t back the PM then she should ‘piss off’ that’s not how democracy works, people are allowed to disagree with their boss without being dismissed

[Alf]

Hi diddly dee an independent life for me.

Not long now, and we'll be set free, free from our unelected leaders. An independent country once again. I can't wait to laugh at you anti British losers crying your fake tears.

Ha ha ha ha

[Liam-]

‘Free from our unelected leaders’

While we have the second unelected Prime Minister in a row

[Mystic Mock]

It's for the common good so can be excused

It's a slippery slope.

[Oliver_W]

‘Free from our unelected leaders’

While we have the second unelected Prime Minister in a row

All PMs are unelected. We don't elect our PMs, they are the leader of the largest party. We vote for our local MPs.

[Alf]

Trump, Putin, Jong Un and Johnson, dictator top trumps.Boris is such a dictator that he has to ask the Crown for permission, and he had to bow his head before doing so.

[Beso]

It's a slippery slope.

It won us the war, and will see us through this shambles.

[smudgie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1166716666606211072/hUDO1eV6?format=jpg&name=small

OMG :laugh:

[arista]

That’s different from what you said though, you said if she can’t back the PM then she should ‘piss off’ that’s not how democracy works, people are allowed to disagree with their boss without being dismissed



She does need to Resign ,yet
Lets find out what she says tomorrow

[Beso]

It's not bc they promised a deal

How ****ing far you want to stretch this pathetic 1.9 majority?

You lot broke it and you own it

Can you please stop using bc for because...it really is annoying :nono:

[arista]

Can you please stop using bc for because...it really is annoying :nono:



Yes he is Bloody LAZY

[The Slim Reaper]

I am not far right


It would be great
to have Labour MP Clive Lewis Dragged of Parliament
Sept 14th
out with 4 Policeman.

I didn't say you were.

Anybody who doesn't agree with the Marxist are far-right, just embrace it and laugh at them. Trust me, they hate laughter.

If only I had a way to refute you, but you've got me this time. I'd have got away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids :fist:

[arista]

Corbyn called the PM
"Smash and Grab"

[Beso]

Corbyn called the PM
"Smash and Grab"

He must be seeing double with all the punches he's been taking recently. Poor man.:bawling:

[Alf]

If only I had a way to refute you, but you've got me this time. I'd have got away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids :fist:That was on the next page, I'd already replied before I'd seen that.

[Mitchell]

I can't wait to laugh at you anti British losers crying your fake tears.

Ha ha ha ha
I’m personally buzzing to laugh at all those pesky diabetics to die from a lack of insulin, RULE BRITANNIA

[Beso]

I’m personally buzzing to laugh at all those pesky diabetics to die from a lack of insulin, RULE BRITANNIA

Fake news.

[arista]

Reporters are Saying Davidson in Scotland
maybe standing down over a personal issue.

[The Slim Reaper]

Fake news.

It was in this government's own leaked memo :shrug:

[Mitchell]

Fake news.

Let’s hope so, if there’s one case or death from lack of insulin in this country after we’re dragged out of the EU with no deal, I will be calling you all murderers forever more x

[Beso]

Let’s hope so, if there’s one case or death from lack of insulin in this country after we’re dragged out of the EU with no deal, I will be calling you all murderers forever more x

I meant fake news as in you didn't mean what you said..:shrug:

[Alf]

I’m personally buzzing to laugh at all those pesky diabetics to die from a lack of insulin, RULE BRITANNIAWhy is there going to be lack of insulin? Is somebody going to deny us it? Do all the other independent countries in the World suffer from lack of insulin?

[Beso]

Ruth Davidson is going to quit

You were right.

[MTVN]

Pretty surprised at normally reasonable MPs and commentators totally losing their minds over Parliament not sitting for 4 days. If that is the mark of a dictatorship then we're setting the bar pretty low. There's even been large Remain groups suggesting the Queen should be executed over allowing it even though it's obvious she has no choice in the matter

[arista]

You were right.


We Find Out
tomorrow
but many have said its for personal reasons

[Beso]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/ruth-davidson-quit-scots-tory-19023866

[Mitchell]

Why is there going to be lack of insulin? Is somebody going to deny us it? Do all the other independent countries in the World suffer from lack of insulin?

It’s fine anyway, cos the NHS is getting £350m extra per week... oh wait...

[Shaun]

This country... just won't exist in five years time. As we know it, anyway. Depressing.

[Twosugars]

Can you please stop using bc for because...it really is annoying :nono:

Yes he is Bloody LAZY

Bc I'm bothered :laugh:

You heard Josy on this matter so suck it up

[The Slim Reaper]

Pretty surprised at normally reasonable MPs and commentators totally losing their minds over Parliament not sitting for 4 days. If that is the mark of a dictatorship then we're setting the bar pretty low. There's even been large Remain groups suggesting the Queen should be executed over allowing it even though it's obvious she has no choice in the matter

I think it's more about his intent and motives, which are undeniable to everyone. He will have been PM for 80 days but only under the supervision of parliament for a total of 5 of those. All to push through a no deal that nobody voted for, and definitely wasn't part of the leave campaign.

Added to the fact that even the government know how bad this will be if they believe their own memo's, and are using shady tricks to force it through. That's not a good look.

[arista]

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[Twosugars]

Ruth Davidson is going to quit

Wise move.
Will be in a prime position to run for leader when the clown ****s up

[The Slim Reaper]

Wise move.
Will be in a prime position to run for leader when the clown ****s up

Tories aren't electing an anti-brexit leader for at least a generation. If they get it through, they'll all be wed to it, but if we can stop it, then it'll be their only campaigning message.

[Alf]

This country... just won't exist in five years time. As we know it, anyway. Depressing.That' what the Estonians, the Latvians, and others said as they were about to leave the Soviet Union.

[UserSince2005]

This country... just won't exist in five years time. As we know it, anyway. Depressing.

Exciting more like.

[arista]

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[Alf]

1166765290073575425A self confessed Marxist.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

A self confessed Marxist.

What is a marxist, Alf? What's the difference between that, a communist, and a socialist?

[arista]

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[JoshBB]

Just gonna drop my view in here then dip.

Boris is an unelected prime minister, using the mandate of the 2016 referendum to shut down our elected parliament, despite the fact that in 2017, the general election showed No Deal to have no mandate. Ridiculous and undemocratic.

[Alf]

What is a marxist, Alf? What's the difference between that, a communist, and a socialist?Not much, It's just ideology following, like religion.

The goal is Heaven on Earth.

[MTVN]

I think it's more about his intent and motives, which are undeniable to everyone. He will have been PM for 80 days but only under the supervision of parliament for a total of 5 of those. All to push through a no deal that nobody voted for, and definitely wasn't part of the leave campaign.

Added to the fact that even the government know how bad this will be if they believe their own memo's, and are using shady tricks to force it through. That's not a good look.

It's cynical but within the current context it's not surprising. Boris' target electorate is Leave voters who are all going to side with him over this more than Jo Swinson and Ian Blackford. No one voted for No Deal but everyone knew it was a possibility I think and the only deal that was agreed (and the EU say cant be changed) was unpopular with everyone and couldnt pass. The vast majority of MPs all voted to trigger article 50 and that set no deal as the default and everyone knew about that. It can't really be ignored that everyone up in arms over this are firm Remainers who are equally cynical in their motives as Johnson imo

[Alf]

Just gonna drop my view in here then dip.

Boris is an unelected prime minister, using the mandate of the 2016 referendum to shut down our elected parliament, despite the fact that in 2017, the general election showed No Deal to have no mandate. Ridiculous and undemocratic.Boris was elected, what are you talking about?

[Liam-]

It's cynical but within the current context it's not surprising. Boris' target electorate is Leave voters who are all going to side with him over this more than Jo Swinson and Ian Blackford. No one voted for No Deal but everyone knew it was a possibility I think and the only deal that was agreed (and the EU say cant be changed) was unpopular with everyone and couldnt pass. The vast majority of MPs all voted to trigger article 50 and that set no deal as the default and everyone knew about that. It can't really be ignored that everyone up in arms over this are firm Remainers who are equally cynical in their motives as Johnson imo

Not true, leave voter here

[MTVN]

Not true, leave voter here

Exception that proves the rule maybe lol, as I am as a Remain voter who is not that concerned about this

[The Slim Reaper]

It's cynical but within the current context it's not surprising. Boris' target electorate is Leave voters who are all going to side with him over this more than Jo Swinson and Ian Blackford. No one voted for No Deal but everyone knew it was a possibility I think and the only deal that was agreed (and the EU say cant be changed) was unpopular with everyone and couldnt pass. The vast majority of MPs all voted to trigger article 50 and that set no deal as the default and everyone knew about that. It can't really be ignored that everyone up in arms over this are firm Remainers who are equally cynical in their motives as Johnson imo

The fact it's not surprising should be a worry. No deal was never presented as an opportunity to the electorate, so it was absolutely nothing to do with the referendum vote. That deal that was unpopular with everyone had Johnson voting yes and no at different times, so it's not quite as clear cut as you imply, one of the main problems was that all parties (I do mean all) used the negotiating period as a time to position themselves to take advantage after the fallout. No deal was never set as a default for anything, and the recent media gaslighting blitz from the usual suspects telling us it was, are completely misguided or liars. The biggest issue to getting Brexit over the line is that as soon as details are written down, and presented to the people/experts then it becomes blatantly obvious to everyone that it will always be worse than what we have now. That's why no-deal is talked about, because there are no details.


I'm a huge corbyn supporter but he's been all over the map with this, but the fact that no one comes out of Brexit smelling of roses, doesn't mean that the PM just gets to do away with the peoples house in order to force through legislation he absolutely 100% knows will cause pain to his citizenry.

[arista]

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[Twosugars]

That' what the Estonians, the Latvians, and others said as they were about to leave the Soviet Union.

Dont talk nonsense. You know nothing of life in Soviet Union

[arista]

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[Glenn.]

Boris is really doing what is needed. A modern day hero :love:

[arista]

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Owen Jones Speaking Live outside Parliament
this evening.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Kazanne]

They aren't bothered about the democracy when the people voted out ,they did everything to stop it and still are.

[JoshBB]

Boris was elected, what are you talking about?

By 66.4% of Conservative party members. Around 90,000 people in total. What a massive mandate..

[Oliver_W]

By 66.4% of Conservative party members. Around 90,000 people in total. What a massive mandate..

Do you know how Prime Ministers are "elected"? Properly speaking, all PMs are unelected, as we don't vote for the PM.

[bots]

By 66.4% of Conservative party members. Around 90,000 people in total. What a massive mandate..

Electorate wide, Boris was the most popular in the leadership election. That's why he won. He was the only one that showed a tory majority in a GE. So you may say it was a small sample pool in the election, but it is reflected electorate wide

[arista]

Activist Paul Mason set all this up today
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[Beso]

Are all these people with the defend democracy banners the same ones that were out on the streets demanding a re vote the minute the brexit result was announced?

[Samm]

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:love:

[Kizzy]

Liz you absolute bitch!!

[arista]

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[Mitchell]

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Tea!

[Mitchell]

Are all these people with the defend democracy banners the same ones that were out on the streets demanding a re vote the minute the brexit result was announced?

The Brexit vote wasn’t very demographic, since vote leave broke electoral law x

[UserSince2005]

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someones desperate for some dick, #slut4life.

[Josy]

Just in time for the media to stop talking about Andrew...

[Beso]

Just in time for the media to stop talking about Andrew...

Oh
My
God.


Josy..you legend.:cheer2:


How true..

[Marsh.]

Do you know how Prime Ministers are "elected"? Properly speaking, all PMs are unelected, as we don't vote for the PM.

Technically we do, as we vote for them largely based on the person heading the party at the time.

[Braden]

Just in time for the media to stop talking about Andrew...

Josy knows what's up!

[bots]

Just in time for the media to stop talking about Andrew...

i've heard stories about Andrew stretching back to when he was a pilot in the falklands war, so they will never stop, there are too many of them :laugh:

[Twosugars]

Just in time for the media to stop talking about Andrew...

Doubt it.
When the private prosecution cases go to court in US he will be back in the media

[Josy]

Doubt it.

When the private prosecution cases go to court in US he will be back in the mediaIt diverts attention for now.

Media manipulation is a thing.

[Cherie]

It diverts attention for now.

Media manipulation is a thing.

in all honestty the media coverage of Andrew has been pretty downgraded, they have managed to keep quite a lid on it

they made more out of Harry and Megs flying around in private jets and Will and Kate going Easyjet than Andy

[Twosugars]

It diverts attention for now.

Media manipulation is a thing.

Of course it is. But doubt it our brexit loving media magnates and politicians value Andrew's privacy more than brexit. The clock is ticking, the blond clown needs time to **** it up

[Twosugars]

in all honestty the media coverage of Andrew has been pretty downgraded, they have managed to keep quite a lid on it

they made more out of Harry and Megs flying around in private jets and Will and Kate going Easyjet than Andy

True.

[Beso]

Tbf I'm watching sky news and Andrew has not been forgotten..

[Alf]

Of course it is. But doubt it our brexit loving media magnates and politicians value Andrew's privacy more than brexit. The clock is ticking, the blond clown needs time to **** it upBrexit loving media? You gotta be kidding?

[joeysteele]

I honestly can't understand why younger people would be for leaving without a deal. It's them it will have the most impact on. Its hard enough to get on the property ladder now but when we are in the grips of another very hard recession, with record unemployment, job shortages etc etc it will be nigh on impossible. I am trying really hard to see what benefits leaving with no deal with bring.......and short term I see none.......long term, I see even less.

I agree with all this.

This act by Johnson is really worrying.
Dictatorship isn't a good quality in anyone.

However in a Prime Minister, really dangerous.

He may be heading determinedly for a no deal brexit.

He could however end up being the last Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
So much for representing a Unionist Party then.

Listening to the bigoted, extremist DUP too, has been really nauseating.

[Alf]

I agree with all this.

This act by Johnson is really worrying.
Dictatorship isn't a good quality in anyone.

However in a Prime Minister, really dangerous.

He may be heading determinedly for a no deal brexit.

He could however end up being the last Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
So much for representing a Unionist Party then.

Listening to the bigoted, extremist DUP too, has been really nauseating.What Boris Johnson is doing is constitutional, within the rules and conventions of our democracy.

Anybody who tells you he's acting like a dictator is lying to you, so you're really worried over nothing. You don't need to be worried.

[Marsh.]

Joey, anybody who tells you he's not acting like a dictator is lying to you. Don't listen.

[Alf]

Joey, anybody who tells you he's not acting like a dictator is lying to you. Don't listen.A dictator would not ask for permission.

[Alf]

And he'd have the Queens army on him in a flash.

[Beso]

Surely the UK governments of the past set in rules that a dictator could never take power...this is a rule or whatever that the pm can use.

Oh i so hope labour made that original rule.

[Marsh.]

Oh, well, if he asked the rich old lady who got her position through being conceived then THAT'S alright then. :idc:

[arista]

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[Marsh.]

PISS OFF at that Andrew headline. :facepalm:

[arista]

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[Glenn.]

King!

[arista]

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Brave Martin MEP
in front of the Mob.


Martin Tuck your Shirt in
on your back.

[arista]

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Paul Mason - Animated
he set up all the protests today.
He was the Economic Editor for Ch4HD news
he is now a Activist and Teacher/

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[Alf]

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Paul Mason - Animated
he set up all the protests today.
He was the Economic Editor for Ch4HD news
he is now a Activist and Teacher/We are the NPCs and we are coming to get you.

Absolute nutters.

[arista]

We are the NPCs and we are coming to get you.

Absolute nutters.



A Extra 5 days lost
that is all
As they go off for normal Political Conferences

[joeysteele]

He's used his power to shut down and limit opposition to his aims of leaving with no deal.
Something he originally advocated 3 years ago was impossible.

Plus only a few weeks ago stated it was a million to one chance.

He has used power trusted to him, to close down opposing opportunities to stop something that he stated couldn't happen.

Sounds pretty close to dictatorship to me.
Unacceptable, inappropriate and simply wrong to have acted this extreme way.

He could have done a Queen's speech post October 31st.
There's only one reason he's done this now.
Not in the interests of the UK, not in the interests of Parliament, not even, (if any of them develop finally some courage to put their votes where their mouths are), in the interests of his Party.

He's done it to only satisfy the more extreme elements of his Party and others who always wanted the most uncertain and dangerous extreme brexit outcome.

No matter the consequences.

[Ammi]

...he’s also done it because he’s become the most talked about and controversial PM ever now...I mean, that can’t do his career any harm...all publicity is good publicity as Simon Cowell would say...this will especially expand him out to the USA market as this is such a trump move and everything Trump will think is wonderful...very self serving indeed, cool move Boris...

[bots]

A dictator would not ask for permission.

it's exactly what a dictator would do when the permission is always granted

[arista]

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Paul Mason set up the Demo last night
Paul wants Violence.

James Whale knows he is bad news.

[Twosugars]

Demo is not violence, chill out Arista

[Alf]

He's used his power to shut down and limit opposition to his aims of leaving with no deal.
Something he originally advocated 3 years ago was impossible.

Plus only a few weeks ago stated it was a million to one chance.

He has used power trusted to him, to close down opposing opportunities to stop something that he stated couldn't happen.

Sounds pretty close to dictatorship to me.
Unacceptable, inappropriate and simply wrong to have acted this extreme way.

He could have done a Queen's speech post October 31st.
There's only one reason he's done this now.
Not in the interests of the UK, not in the interests of Parliament, not even, (if any of them develop finally some courage to put their votes where their mouths are), in the interests of his Party.

He's done it to only satisfy the more extreme elements of his Party and others who always wanted the most uncertain and dangerous extreme brexit outcome.

No matter the consequences.17.4m are still waiting, 3 years later, for their decision to be implemented, because most politicians have been working against the people to stop it. Boris is doing what he can to make sure this gets done and we can finally move on.

I just don't think you're used to a leader showing leadership, because we haven't had a real leader since Mrs Thatcher.

June 23rd 2016, more than 3 years ago. Yet you have been happy to support delay, after delay, after delay.

This time we have someone in charge that tries to get things that the people want, done, And you lot throw a tantrum.

[arista]

Demo is not violence, chill out Arista



Paul Mason stated on Newsnight last night
that Violent Demo's will happen


You are not Updated

[Twosugars]

Paul Mason stated on Newsnight last night
that Violent Demo's will happen


You are not Updated

They may do but doesn't mean he advocates them

[UserSince2005]

violent demos?

im imagining a lot of toys being thrown out of prams?

[Alf]

Demos like the one in the first of Arista's videos, where all the zombies are all walking around chanting "we are victims"

[UserSince2005]

anyhow if they do start smashing windows or some dumb **** rubber bullet the animals.

[joeysteele]

17.4m are still waiting, 3 years later, for their decision to be implemented, because most politicians have been working against the people to stop it. Boris is doing what he can to make sure this gets done and we can finally move on.

I just don't think you're used to a leader showing leadership, because we haven't had a real leader since Mrs Thatcher.

June 23rd 2016, more than 3 years ago. Yet you have been happy to support delay, after delay, after delay.

This time we have someone in charge that tries to get things that the people want, done, And you lot throw a tantrum.


I don't know how many of that 17.4million voted whatever as to their reasons.

However what I'll never believe from anyone is that 17.4 million voted to leave with NO DEAL.
So those keep harping on about 17.4 million voting to leave, have a valid point.

However I'm as certain as I can be nothing like those 17.4 million voted for NO DEAL and for Parliament to be sidelined by a PM in the their name, to ensure no deal became more likely.

Not a chance is that the case, in my view.
Not a chance.

[Withano]

Look mate, why you create a thread if you can't stick to its topic?

Go and create one about corbyn and you can rant there

:joker: true

[Beso]

Unless there's something coming after them..Im perched for the water cannons blasting the specks of the lot of them.

Can just imagine..one bloke puffing his pipe in the middle of all the mayhem around him..."we must retire to the staff toom"

[Alf]

I don't know how many of that 17.4million voted whatever as to their reasons.

However what I'll never believe from anyone is that 17.4 million voted to leave with NO DEAL.
So those keep harping on about 17.4 million voting to leave, have a valid point.

However I'm as certain as I can be nothing like those 17.4 million voted for NO DEAL and for Parliament to be sidelined by a PM in the their name, to ensure no deal became more likely.

Not a chance is that the case, in my view.
Not a chance.No deal is the default position. Parliament has been deliberately dithering trying to delay and stop the outcome, The reason no deal is the only outcome is because of them. Boris is just doing his job of what needs to be done.

You want to blame someone for no deal, then blame the remain establishment.

[Tom4784]

I do hope all brexiters are outraged about this since this is an actual example of MPs abusing democracy for their own ends. I've heard so often these past few years that opposing Brexit is undemocratic so I better see some outrage on the Brexters' behalf for this constitutional abuse in order to force us down a path that most brexiters don't even want.

You can't screech at remainers for not 'respecting democracy' and then cheer on this abortion of rights.

It's an utter joke and it will be the end of the union as we know it because Scotland won't stick around (Take me with you!!!) and I think NI will be wrapped up in so much bull**** with a no deal that it'll basically be a separate entity all together.

Boris has gone for the nuclear option here and everyone, regardless of political alignment, should be very worried.

[joeysteele]

No deal is the default position. Parliament has been deliberately dithering trying to delay and stop the outcome, The reason no deal is the only outcome is because of them. Boris is just doing his job of what needs to be done.

You want to blame someone for no deal, then blame the remain establishment.



Some of the present BREXIT no deal Cabinet and the bigoted extreme DUP with the ERG of the Con. party are who scuppered leaving with May's deal.

She also sacrificed her then overall majority too in 2017.

Opposition is there, and the clue is in the title, to oppose, not support and save bad governments.

[Alf]

Bad losers.

You need to learn how to lose with dignity.

[Beso]

It is China, Germany Iran and Russia fault...and probably Poland as well in the end...if it does become nuclear..

Big days ahead in the future for the g7 held by Trump in America next year.

I heard he wants a g4..not including uk..or any other European country..

[Tom4784]

Bad losers.

You need to learn how to lose with dignity.

If this has been the opposite way around, that government was shut down in order to ensure an outcome you didn't want, you would rage endlessly about it.

Difference is that most remainers would find it an outrage if that happened as well. Democracy is democracy, if you support what Boris has done then you quite simply oppose democracy and support what is essentially the move of a dictator.

[armand.kay]

Bad losers.

You need to learn how to lose with dignity.

I think the fact that you see this as a competition that's to be won or lost is...well...nvm

[Beso]

If this has been the opposite way around, that government was shut down in order to ensure an outcome you didn't want, you would rage endlessly about it.

Difference is that most remainers would find it an outrage if that happened as well. Democracy is democracy, if you support what Boris has done then you quite simply oppose democracy and support what is essentially the move of a dictator.

Whatifary.

[Beso]

Anyone opposing brexit, or mays plan used thier parliamentary privaliges to block a deal..this is just the same..dissapointing in the queen..Im sure there would have been a way for her to say no..but it's already been pointed out why she said yes.

[Tom4784]

Whatifary.

That doesn't work given the context but you do you, sweetie.

[Beso]

That doesn't work given the context but you do you, sweetie.

Well check ya self when ya pump it out next time.:hee:

[joeysteele]

Bad losers.

You need to learn how to lose with dignity.

Since the 80s there's been those who never wanted the UK in the EU or EEC either, going on moaning for decade after decade.

Even following a near 67% to 33% vote to be in the EEC.

So I'll take no lectures from brexiteers re moaning.

[Alf]

Since the 80s there's been those who never wanted the UK in the EU or EEC either, going on moaning for decade after decade.

Even following a near 67% to 33% vote to be in the EEC.

So I'll take no lectures from brexiteers re moaning.Political parties can put a referendum for a return to the EU in their manifesto at the next General Election, you can go out and vote for that party. But right now, we're still waiting for the the result of the last referendum to be implemented.

Play fair, and we'll all get along better.

[Tom4784]

Well check ya self when ya pump it out next time.:hee:

Again, that doesn't work either since I only call out whataboutism when the context is correct.

By all means though, you can explain to me why you think I'm wrong and that I'm guilty of whataboutism myself with the post you quoted and called as such.

[Tom4784]

Political parties can put a referendum for a return to the EU in their manifesto at the next General Election, you can go out and vote for that party. But right now, we're still waiting for the the result of the last referendum to be implemented.

Play fair, and we'll all get along better.

Shutting down the government to prevent democracy from happening isn't fair though. You're not asking people to 'play fair' you're telling them to be silent and compliant with the regime's actions.

What about Brexiters who don't want a no deal brexit? Why is your idea of what Brexit should be more important than theirs?

[Beso]

Again, that doesn't work either since I only call out whataboutism when the context is correct.

By all means though, you can explain to me why you think I'm wrong and that I'm guilty of whataboutism myself with the post you quoted and called as such.



Whatifary. ..not whataboutary. ..

[Tom4784]

Whatifary. ..not whataboutary. ..

Why don't you try justifying why what I said counts as 'whatifary' then?

[michael21]

So he can focus on Brexit without Corbyns childish tactics

Time for the queen to sort this mess out

[Beso]

Why don't you try justifying why what I said counts as 'whatifary' then?

Cause you said what if the tables were the other way around or something like that.:shrug:

[Withano]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDE2x_KX4AAHjOi?format=jpg&name=small
Owen Jones Speaking Live outside Parliament
this evening.

Am I the only one concerned for this mans life?... Like there’s standing up for what you believe in and there’s making yourself an actual target.

[joeysteele]

Shutting down the government to prevent democracy from happening isn't fair though. You're not asking people to 'play fair' you're telling them to be silent and compliant with the regime's actions.

What about Brexiters who don't want a no deal brexit? Why is your idea of what Brexit should be more important than theirs?



You've saved me a lot of typing.
Saying what I wanted to but I'd likely have gone on and on.

I agree with all the above in your post.

[Twosugars]

Am I the only one concerned for this mans life?... Like there’s standing up for what you believe in and there’s making yourself an actual target.

We need more like him tbh

[Withano]

We need more like him tbh

I agree... but... all it would take is one angry right wing nutcase being close to him and that’s becoming increasingly likely.

[Alf]

I agree... but... all it would take is one angry right wing nutcase being close to him and that’s becoming increasingly likely.See what we're up against? Fantasies.

Although I did hear that the protesters were planning to protest outside Jacob Rees Mogg's House, prepared to frighten his children because they can't get their own way. It probably won't happen, not now the police are aware of their plans.

[Withano]

Although I did hear that the protesters were planning to protest outside Jacob Rees Mogg's House, prepared to frighten his children because they can't get their own way. It probably won't happen, not now the police are aware of their plans.

See what we're up against? Fantasies.
.

.

[Beso]

Shutting down the government to prevent democracy from happening isn't fair though


Stamp your feet in an up.and down rythm then like these idiots out parading thier feathers instead of duscussing it on here..once you've done that...people may listen.

[Denver]

Am I the only one concerned for this mans life?... Like there’s standing up for what you believe in and there’s making yourself an actual target.

He is an attention seeker and would sell his granny for a spot on BBC News at 3am in the morning

[Twosugars]

The Guardian did a good piece comparing what the current tory ministers said about proroguing a couple of months ago
For example
The chancellor, Sajid Javid, was also staunchly opposed to shutting down parliament during the Tory leadership campaign. “You don’t deliver on democracy by trashing democracy ... we are not selecting a dictator of our country,” he said. As the Guardian surveilled the Treasury, Javid was nowhere to be seen to explain his position. Nor did his spokeswoman answer its questions. he also seemed to be absent from the airwaves.


Others who did a dramatic u turn are gove, morgan, Hancock and Rudd
Lying bastards in the service of the lying blond clown

[Tom4784]

Cause you said what if the tables were the other way around or something like that.:shrug:

That's not really comparable to whataboutism/'whatifery' though. Those rely on trying to divert attention away from something by basically pointing at something else and saying 'what about that?' As though focusing on something else makes the other issue less problematic.

I basically tried to make you and others understand why this miscarriage of democracy is bad by presenting a hypothetical that reversed the situation, not distracted from it. My view is that everyone on both sides should be angry about what has happened, especially considering that leavers have basically called any attempts to oppose Brexit democratically undemocratic so after all that, they can't pretend that the undemocratic seizing of power away from parliament so that they can't reach a solution on time an act of democracy just because it suits the no-deal people.

Proroguing parliament is the most undemocratic abuse of power to happen in years.

[arista]

Am I the only one concerned for this mans life?... Like there’s standing up for what you believe in and there’s making yourself an actual target.


Sure Owen did get attacked.
He appears with mates near him
more now

[Kizzy]

The Guardian did a good piece comparing what the current tory ministers said about proroguing a couple of months ago
For example


Others who did a dramatic u turn are gove, morgan, Hancock and Rudd
Lying bastards in the service of the lying blond clown

That's what I can't get over, the lies. I don't have any kind if respect for politicians who will quite literally say anything to make a case for what govt intentions are, regardless of whether there is one grain of truth in any of the claims they make.
Not only that but as you say the contradictions they make on what they've already said are astounding. Theres an ad campaign by a group called 'led by donkeys', they post billboards highlighting the odd, contradictory or false claims stated by politicians in recent times, specifically related to brexit.
I know some will say all politicians lie, but this is a deception on a massive scale, there's no hiding from these and there's no Shame, from pork pie exports to suspending parliament the pm has lied to avoid any accountability for what is happening.
I just hope they don't get away with it for much longer.

[arista]

[Proroguing parliament is the most undemocratic abuse of power to happen in years. ]

Nice to have you back Dezzy.

To be Fair all the Party Political Conferences
are booked so 4 weeks is taken away, anyway
So infact, it is only a Extra 5 days taken away

[Kazanne]

[Proroguing parliament is the most undemocratic abuse of power to happen in years. ]



To be Fair all the Party Political Conferences
are booked so 4 weeks is taken away, anyway
So infact, it is only a Extra 5 days taken away

This is true,he's not broken any laws, the queen has accepted it, it seems to be just another excuse ,to stop us leaving with or without a deal, besides the people wanting to remain are to blame for no deal as they rejected a deal 3 times,they have had 3 years to sort it out,its gone on long enough,what will be will be,no good getting wound up over it.

[Kizzy]

Am I the only one concerned for this mans life?... Like there’s standing up for what you believe in and there’s making yourself an actual target.

We need more like him, can you imagine in Britain in 2019 being scared for your life for holding a certain opinion?
It's outright fascism, pure and simple to want to harm people for wanting a fairer more equal and just society.
And its been happening for 100s of years, every time there's any kind sociopolitical discord and someone puts themselves forward as spokesperson, they're targetted.
Nothing ever changes, have you read 'The ragged trousered philanthropist'? Same shiz different millennium. :/

[joeysteele]

[Proroguing parliament is the most undemocratic abuse of power to happen in years. ]

Nice to have you back Dezzy.

To be Fair all the Party Political Conferences
are booked so 4 weeks is taken away, anyway
So infact, it is only a Extra 5 days taken away

Yes however in the conference season Parliament goes into recess..
Some business and other parliamentary things can still be carried out.

To prorogue is to close ALL down.
Therein lies the difference.
It shuts all MPs out.

That is wrong for this length of time.
It should be unacceptable.

I try to avoid this but, had Labour ended up governing after 2017.
Then Corbyn had prorogued Parliament.
The media and near all else would in my view rightly be crucifying him for it.

[joeysteele]

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This is true,he's not broken any laws, the queen has accepted it, it seems to be just another excuse ,to stop us leaving with or without a deal, besides the people wanting to remain are to blame for no deal as they rejected a deal 3 times,they have had 3 years to sort it out,its gone on long enough,what will be will be,no good getting wound up over it.

Hi Kazanne.
With respect the Queen has to accept her Prime Minister's requests and advice.

She can't do anything else.
No matter what her own views may be.

Every PM knows that.
To have then put her in this position unnecessarily is what's wrong.

Sadly it's put the Queen at odds with not only people but Nations too like Scotland and N Ireland.
The poor woman has only done what she had to do.
With a modern PM unbelievably choosing to put her in that position when he never needed to.
Knowing she really couldn't refuse.

That's really worrying or should be.

[Twosugars]

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