Boris has asked the Queen to suspend Parliment, The Queen has now approved

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdCDxkWoAI62Aw?format=jpg&name=small

and

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFzQQiPWkAANfN1?format=jpg&name=small

[Beso]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdCDxkWoAI62Aw?format=jpg&name=small

and

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFzQQiPWkAANfN1?format=jpg&name=small




I love the new TIBB banner.:banana:

[Tom4784]

I don't think another terrorist attack would unite us at all if people who voted remain loathe and detest the leavers as much as dezzy does.

You don't want unification, you want assimilation.

[Tom4784]

Pretty sure the thread isn't about Dezzy.

Won't stop them talking about me though.

[Tom4784]

You are correct...but he is a staunch remainer who detests leavers so I am using him as a yard stick for judging how united the UK can become in the future

You can't even get that right. I'm literally pulling for the UK to leave with a deal now. I've said multiple times that overturning Brexit would just see us repeat the same cycles over and over again. For someone so obsessed with me, you can't even get what I believe in right despite me saying it often enough. Pay attention.

[Beso]

Won't stop them talking about me though.

Sorry to be a drama...but that's really unfair. .

I was trying not to even talk with you, until I had to defend myself against slim Reaper spouting up about its not about Dezzy. ..don't ****ing twist my words no more pal.:nono:

[Beso]

You can't even get that right. I'm literally pulling for the UK to leave with a deal now. I've said multiple times that overturning Brexit would just see us repeat the same cycles over and over again. For someone so obsessed with me, you can't even get what I believe in right despite me saying it often enough. Pay attention.




But I am like you....I know what you really think...


:smug:...easy eh ,when it's worded like that.

[arista]

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[joeysteele]

I'm sure Swinson and co are really upset.

This dangerous politician's delusion as to his own importance just gets worse.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Cherie]

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Not to worry, the warm glow they will feel from brave new trade deals will be enough to see them through

I expect Sainsburys and Co will allow tabs so no one will go hungry

[Alf]

1182176398099828736I don't know who Keith Burge is, but I'd take a wild guess that he voted remain, and is still a strong remainer.

There's plenty of pro leave tweets on twitter to do with business's, how come you never post them?

[arista]

Yes Slim Many Firms are Cutting Wages to say afloat
going back over 10 years.

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't know who Keith Burge is, but I'd take a wild guess that he voted remain, and is still a strong remainer.

There's plenty of pro leave tweets on twitter to do with business's, how come you never post them?

Help a brother out and post them. I never see any positive leave information on my timeline, it's mainly leave means leave, WWII references, and xenophobic Merkel memes. I'm not closed minded to data if you've got some?


I don't know who Keith Burge is either, because the information that yet another northern city is being decimated under tory watch, with brexit on the horizon, is the only important factor in that tweet.

[Alf]

Help a brother out and pst them. I never see any positive leave information on my timeline, it's mainly leave means leave, WWII references, and xenophobic Merkel memes. I'm not closed minded to data if you've got some?I don't know how to post tweets.

But there's a guy on twitter called Robert Kimbell, he's the leader of Time party UK. He's always tweeting about pro leave business. Follow him.

[AnnieK]

I have a friend who works in the motor industry and they are all seriously worried about no deal, or in fact leaving at all but with no deal they have been told they will been in serious danger of redundancy.

[arista]

I don't know how to post tweets.

But there's a guy on twitter called Robert Kimbell, he's the leader of Time party UK. He's always tweeting about pro leave business. Follow him.



Its Easy
put the Link
then do
tweet Numbers Only /tweet

use these [] around the tweets

[The Slim Reaper]

Its Easy
put the Link
them do
Numbers Only

Perfectly explained!

Click on embed tweet, and copy the tweet, then just post the row of numbers in the copied tweet between , and delete the rest.

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't know how to post tweets.

But there's a guy on twitter called Robert Kimbell, he's the leader of Time party UK. He's always tweeting about pro leave business. Follow him.

I just looked him up, the 2nd tweet on his timeline is him retweeting some dude saying that the EU is the enemy.

That's not the data and evidence you promised.

[Tom4784]

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Nigel Farage talking about lies and deception is hilarious considering how he was the driving force behind the lies and deception of the Leave campaign.

There is solid evidence and data as to why leaving on Halloween is a terrible idea, there's nothing of the sort that makes it out to be a good idea. Just blind faith and wilful ignorance.

[user104658]

Nigel Farage talking about lies and deception is hilarious considering how he was the driving force behind the lies and deception of the Leave campaign.

There is solid evidence and data as to why leaving on Halloween is a terrible idea, there's nothing of the sort that makes it out to be a good idea. Just blind faith and wilful ignorance.

Even for people like Boris and Farage themselves, if you read between the lines, the only REAL reason they're giving for why there "must be no further delay", is "Well, cos some people will KICK OFF if there is".

And I thought our governments were supposed to resist that sort of pressure at all costs :shrug:. What else is going to be pushed through this weak government for fear of "people being annoyed", I wonder.

[Alf]

I just looked him up, the 2nd tweet on his timeline is him retweeting some dude saying that the EU is the enemy.

That's not the data and evidence you promised.Fair enough, but don't say I didn't try for you.

[The Slim Reaper]

Fair enough, but don't say I didn't try for you.

Post the articles or tweets. If you have stuff to back up your optimism, I'd definitely like to read it, I just can't be arsed dealing with another "the eu are the enemy" brexiteer, but please post any links or info you may have.

[Kizzy]

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And I 100% agree, it's felt like that to me living in the UK over the last several years... it's been a slow at first then steeper descent into what can only be described as fascism.

[Nicky91]

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[Alf]

Perfectly explained!

Click on embed tweet, and copy the tweet, then just post the row of numbers in the copied tweet between , and delete the rest.You may as well be speaking Dutch to me. I'm from the olden days.

[Tom4784]

Post the articles or tweets. If you have stuff to back up your optimism, I'd definitely like to read it, I just can't be arsed dealing with another "the eu are the enemy" brexiteer, but please post any links or info you may have.

There aren't really anyone worth their salt painting a pretty picture about Brexit though, that's the problem. Brexiters tend to call logic and analysis 'project fear' but their 'sources' tend to just be hardcore brexiters themselves that are just trying to keep them all ignorant.

There are no plus sides to Brexit, it's just a bunch of arseholes like Farage and Boris doing the elites' biding and riling up the masses with dumb nationalistic **** and making out that Brexit is somehow patriotic when we're just leaving an organisation we had a say in to become reliant on the US. It's insanity that I've become jaded to at this point.

[Tom4784]

You may as well be speaking Dutch to me. I'm from the olden days.

Age is just a number, my grandmother's nearly 80 years old and she can copy and paste. The only thing that's stopping you is yourself, You can do it Alf, we believe in you.

[Twosugars]

You may as well be speaking Dutch to me. I'm from the olden days.

Aren't you a 40 something? That's not olden days so drop the charade :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Aren't you a 40 something? That's not olden days so drop the charade :laugh:

thank for that, Alf is making me feel ancient :fist:

[Alf]

Aren't you a 40 something? That's not olden days so drop the charade :laugh:I'm generation X. We didn't have tinternet at School.

[Twosugars]

thank for that, Alf is making me feel ancient :fist:

You stopped aging at 30 judging by your pics so idk what you're complaining about :nono:

[Niamh.]

You stopped aging at 30 judging by your pics so idk what you're complaining about :nono:

Such a charmer :laugh:

[Niamh.]

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Hopefully it's productive although I can't really see what kind of a solution is going to work that won't piss someone off

[joeysteele]

I have a friend who works in the motor industry and they are all seriously worried about no deal, or in fact leaving at all but with no deal they have been told they will been in serious danger of redundancy.

Your friend is right and the worries justified.

Sadly those intent on leaving regardless of cost, financial or personal, don't care and aren't even interested.

It's supposed to be just scaremongering, you, your friend and colleagues and I at least know it's far from scaremonging.

Let's hope for basic common sense to return and a turn away from the extremes.

[Alf]

The point is to scare people.

[Twosugars]

The point is to warn people.

[Tom4784]

The point is to scare people.

Pretending that the outlook for Brexit isn't anything other than '****ed' won't change things. People should be scared, all that brexiters are doing is encouraging each other to be ignorant by making out that the facts as they stand are 'project fear'.

[arista]

Great News
[Boris Johnson and Leo Varadkar see 'pathway' to Brexit deal after talks
The two men hold "detailed and constructive" discussions at a wedding venue
in Wirral, Merseyside ahead of next week's EU summit.]

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-and-irish-pm-meet-in-wedding-venue-for-last-ditch-brexit-talks-11832073

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/10/768x432/skynews-leo-varadkar-boris-johnson_4800650.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20191010130745

[Alf]

The point is to warn people.Nah, scare people, they need us dependent on them. It's all about power, that's what Politics is.

[Alf]

Perfectly explained!

Click on embed tweet, and copy the tweet, then just post the row of numbers in the copied tweet between , and delete the rest.I'm gonna have a practice. No laughing if I balls it up.

[Cherie]

Boris will be given the freedom of Ireland if he pulls a deal out of the fire at this stage

[Twosugars]

Nah, scare people, they need us dependent on them. It's all about power, that's what Politics is.

You mean like farage and johnson did?
Turkey joining eu and we have no veto?

[Alf]

I'm gonna have a practice. No laughing if I balls it up.No, it's not happening for me. I know how to embed and copy the tweet. I know how to paste it, but that's were I get lost.

Why can't they just make things easy so that simpletons like me can join in?

[Niamh.]

when you copy and paste the link to tweet, like this :

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1182265087920353280

Delete all but the last lot of numbers (bits bolded) and put those between

[Cherie]

Leo says a deal can be achieved :love:

:fc:

[arista]

Leo says a deal can be achieved :love:

:fc:


Yes Some Great News

[Alf]

It's the [tweet] [tweet] part I'm struggling with, I know how to do it with YT videos, you just press the icon that says YouTube, I don't know how to do it with tweets.

[arista]

It's the part I'm struggling with, I know how to do it with YT videos, you just press the icon that says YouTube, I don't know how to do it with tweets.


Alf it is so Easy

thats the 2nd one after the numbers /

[Niamh.]

It's the [tweet] part I'm struggling with, I know how to do it with YT videos, you just press the icon that says YouTube, I don't know how to do it with tweets.

don't forget the / in the second tweet

[Alf]

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[Alf]

Screw you guys, I'm at the races.

Thanks for all who helped, particularly Niamh.

[arista]

Screw you guys, I'm at the races.

Thanks for all who helped, particularly Niamh.


At Last Alf you have Done it

[Twosugars]

Alf, to make sure the tweet is properly posted you also need to tweet twice loudly.
Like this: TWEET TWEET

[Kazanne]

Leo says a deal can be achieved :love:

:fc:

Sounds promising Cherie ,fingers crossed

[joeysteele]

A bit of hope of a deal being possible.
I'd hope for probable over possible but if progress is at last being made and Johnson is now willing to draw back on any sticky issues.
That will be welcome.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGIegdHXoAMoBQj?format=jpg&name=small

[Niamh.]

Screw you guys, I'm at the races.

Thanks for all who helped, particularly Niamh.You're welcome :love:

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/DEOoxQvYJ0l8pmSmHC41-w/https/media.fyre.co/zzqEkQbSMCclyGfONfeK_1110%20Times.JPG

[Cherie]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/DEOoxQvYJ0l8pmSmHC41-w/https/media.fyre.co/zzqEkQbSMCclyGfONfeK_1110%20Times.JPG

bring it

[Kizzy]

If it's accepted by the EU no doubt hardline tories will hate it and farage obv...
I will be VERY interested to see what the compromises are, if it's not protecting rights, regulation, protections and the GFA they can all foff!!

[Tom4784]

Farage will oppose anything that can potentially save us from No Deal. Russia wants us to crash out of the EU and Farage has already shown us all that he's on Team Putin.

[Twosugars]

Farage will oppose anything that can potentially save us from No Deal. Russia wants us to crash out of the EU and Farage has already shown us all that he's on Team Putin.

Despicable extremists

[Niamh.]

bring it

Slightly worried and hopeful about this at the same time

[joeysteele]

Anything that is left which leaves a possible veto in any way by the DUP, would not satisfy me.

However any agreement has to be looked at.
I just can't see what the Republic of Ireland could move on.
Theirs were reasonable expectations.

The move has to be from Johnson's more harder extreme positioning.

[Niamh.]

Anything that is left which leaves a possible veto in any way by the DUP, would not satisfy me.

However any agreement has to be looked at.
I just can't see what the Republic of Ireland could move on.
Theirs were reasonable expectations.

The move has to be from Johnson's more harder extreme positioning.

Yeah exactly, that's what's worrying me

[joeysteele]

Yeah exactly, that's what's worrying me

I'm trusting the Republic of Ireland's government Niamh.

They've been way more responsible thus far than the crazy mess created by the UK government.
In my view anyway.

[Niamh.]

I'm trusting the Republic of Ireland's government Niamh.

They've been way more responsible thus far than the crazy mess created by the UK government.
In my view anyway.

hhhmmm they're all still Politicians though at the end of the day though Joey. I've really liked how well Leo has handled things so far aswell but the behind closed doors and secrecy afterwards is worrying

[joeysteele]

hhhmmm they're all still Politicians though at the end of the day though Joey. I've really liked how well Leo has handled things so far aswell but the behind closed doors and secrecy afterwards is worrying

I agree.

I just can't see him signing up to anything he's insisted is the very basics as to checks and any exclusion of others to accommodate the DUP.

I'm hoping he won't anyway.

[Oliver_W]

Why has this become a "megathread" for all things Tory or Brexit?

Why can't new news items have their own threads?

[arista]

Why has this become a "megathread" for all things Tory or Brexit?

Why can't new news items have their own threads?


Simply because the PM Suspended
Parliament,
and of course
Scottish Courts changed that

[user104658]

hhhmmm they're all still Politicians though at the end of the day though Joey. I've really liked how well Leo has handled things so far aswell but the behind closed doors and secrecy afterwards is worryingThe issue is in bluff calling I think. No deal Brexit would actually be economically extremely damaging for Ireland... Even without the issue concerning Borders, the economy in Ireland is simply linked to the UK economy in more ways than any other EU country. Of course its nothing like as bad as it will be for the UK itself, but the hit is inevitable more than it is for most, and while I believe the EU would try to mitigate many of those things, it would still be felt. Realistically, the Irish government wants to avoid no deal if at all possible.

[Twosugars]

Why has this become a "megathread" for all things Tory or Brexit?

Why can't new news items have their own threads?

It should all be merged into EU ref thread tbh.

Niamh?

[Niamh.]

The issue is in bluff calling I think. No deal Brexit would actually be economically extremely damaging for Ireland... Even without the issue concerning Borders, the economy in Ireland is simply linked to the UK economy in more ways than any other EU country. Of course its nothing like as bad as it will be for the UK itself, but the hit is inevitable more than it is for most, and while I believe the EU would try to mitigate many of those things, it would still be felt. Realistically, the Irish government wants to avoid no deal if at all possible.Of course. They're predicting 73k jobs lost here if a No Deal goes ahead

[arista]

Of course. They're predicting 73k jobs lost here if a No Deal goes ahead


Thats a Mega amount of Jobs gone
some are also using Brexit
to sack folks

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/9543/production/_109211283_sunday-express.jpg

[Tom4784]

Look at that biased headline :laugh:

All he is doing is appealing to the delusions of Brexiters that still believe we rule the world, we do not. We're just the elderly grandad of the world who wishes we were still in the glory days while our family members debate whether or not to stick us in a home.

[Twosugars]

Bojo is a lying clown

He had promised London to solve homelessness crisis. At the end of his second term the homelessness doubled.

[Kizzy]

Look at that biased headline :laugh:

All he is doing is appealing to the delusions of Brexiters that still believe we rule the world, we do not. We're just the elderly grandad of the world who wishes we were still in the glory days while our family members debate whether or not to stick us in a home.

So true.. The English die hard brexiteers don't even respect the other nations in the UK so the EU has no chance!

[Alf]

So true.. The English die hard brexiteers don't even respect the other nations in the UK so the EU has no chance!Does that mean that alternatively, you do respect the other nations, but don't respect your own?

[Twosugars]

So true.. The English die hard brexiteers don't even respect the other nations in the UK so the EU has no chance!

Too busy crawling up trumps rectum.
The same trump who thought up tariffs on whisky and the same trump who has not extradited that woman after she killed that guy in that road accident. The same trump who abandoned his Kurdish allies.

[Tom4784]

Does that mean that alternatively, you do respect the other nations, but don't respect your own?

No, try reading what she's saying instead of focusing on spinning what you've misunderstood to try to catch her out.

'Gotcha' moments don't work when they are based off of your own misunderstanding.

[Alf]

No, try reading what she's saying instead of focusing on spinning what you've misunderstood to try to catch her out.

'Gotcha' moments don't work when they are based off of your own misunderstanding.I asked a question, I didn't state an opinion.

[Tom4784]

I asked a question, I didn't state an opinion.

Where did I say you were stating an opinion? Again you have completely misunderstood a very simple post.

Focus on reading what's actually there and not what you want people to say so you can use your preplanned retorts.

[Kizzy]

Does that mean that alternatively, you do respect the other nations, but don't respect your own?

Not sure how you arrived at that, so I'm going to call it alfs fuzzy logic and leave it there.

[Kazanne]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/labour-remainers-warn-leave-mps-dont-help-johnson-win-his-brexit-deal/ar-AAII00k?ocid=spartanntp

Don't worry,there are plans afoot .:hehe:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdZGupWoAAtswv?format=jpg&name=small

[Tom4784]

God these comic strips are painfully unfunny.

[James]

Is that Sean Bean voicing the 'Get Ready for Brexit' advert on Spotify? (probably radio too).

[arista]

The State opening of Parliament has began
More Security there needed today
due to the Queen.

https://news.sky.com/story/queens-speech-government-puts-focus-on-law-and-order-in-new-legislative-agenda-11835453


https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/p3lGF6ca3LmEp-3yUjw30A/https/storify.com/services/proxy/2/nf4bu996x87CR40kHukyEA/https/e3.365dm.com/19/10/768x432/skynews-house-of-lords-state-opening-parliament_4804257.jpg?Monday14October20191029

The House Of Lords starts this all off.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG1In6SXUAA-zuP?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

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[Cherie]

Of course. They're predicting 73k jobs lost here if a No Deal goes ahead

crazy numbers

[arista]

The Budget is Due Weds Nov 6th
however, if the UK leaves on a No Deal
the Budget date will change

[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGzC0t1WoAAL_r9?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

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Bless her I like Diane Abbot she gets shocking amounts of abuse more than any other MP I'm sure...and I feel bad saying it but that was a really important message and her delivery was seriously lacking there :/
Of course she's totally right though.

[James]

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[Cherie]

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:joker:

[arista]

Bless her I like Diane Abbot she gets shocking amounts of abuse more than any other MP I'm sure...and I feel bad saying it but that was a really important message and her delivery was seriously lacking there :/
Of course she's totally right though.


Yes many do Hate her .

[Twosugars]

https://i.imgur.com/wHnIXeW.jpg

[Twosugars]

https://i.imgur.com/AQmG50i.jpg

[Twosugars]

https://i.imgur.com/8xZGx2H.jpg

[Twosugars]

https://i.imgur.com/BDAVOcc.jpg

[Twosugars]

https://i.imgur.com/KIVy8mL.jpg

[Kizzy]

These are fantastic, led by donkeys are brilliant! :laugh:

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

That was pretty good :joker: :joker:

[arista]

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[bots]

Here is an interesting poll of polls

Remaining may well be the most popular option, but it only commands support by a third of the population. If we do leave with a deal, its going to be very close to the May deal, which is the least popular option. We are completely screwed :laugh:


https://i.imgur.com/Gh80t66.png

[Ammi]

Here is an interesting poll of polls

Remaining may well be the most popular option, but it only commands support by a third of the population. If we do leave with a deal, its going to be very close to the May deal, which is the least popular option. We are completely screwed :laugh:


https://i.imgur.com/Gh80t66.png

...so the deal that he’s on the brink of pulling off...(..those aren’t my words btw, that’s how some media have been reporting it...’Boris is on the brink...’)...is actually not his deal but Theresa May’s deal...well, maybe a little bit of a tweaked../..rip off Britain version...?...so the lady does all of the work and then the man comes in and takes all of the credit...is that what we’re saying...:laugh:...

[Cherie]

the best descriptor I have heard is its Mays deal with a mustache on it :joker:

[joeysteele]

Whatever that poll is saying over polls over many months.

I take little notice of polls.
However it's saying on average only under a quarter support a no deal.

Also a fifth of those asked are in the don't know camp, is interesting too.
That's a high number.

Who actually don't know whether they maybe want to remain or leave or leave with a deal or not.

From that poll, the make up of opinion in Parliament is reflected ptetty near correctly.

Consensus not confrontation should be a big lesson our elected MPs take on board from this total chaos of the brexit saga.

[bots]

i would categorise don't knows by this stage as "don't care" as i think that's probably more accurate. It would reflect people that are completely fed up with the whole thing

[user104658]

Here is an interesting poll of polls

Remaining may well be the most popular option, but it only commands support by a third of the population. If we do leave with a deal, its going to be very close to the May deal, which is the least popular option. We are completely screwed :laugh:

I don't think it's as simple as that, there's no "alternate vote" on these polls... and I would imagine that all of those who want to remain, or want to stay in full customs union, would still take a shoddy deal over no deal if those were the only two options on the table.

It would definitely slow the economy but leaving in any form is going to do that. It would be nowhere near the sh**show that No Deal would be and would undoubtedly be tweaked and improved over the coming years. No Deal creates some very real and immediate problems.

[MTVN]

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[James]

Couple of interesting videos on how the Norway-Sweden border works.


Frictionless borders - learning from Norway
The country's smooth border operations are about collaboration, not just technology.


1:45 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-41413291/frictionless-borders-learning-from-norway


Brexit: Can the UK learn from Norway's EU border?
Norway's border with Sweden – and the EU – is a potential hotspot for smugglers. How is it policed?


4:15 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-50056156/brexit-what-can-the-uk-learn-from-norway-s-eu-border